Transit Advisory Committee
Transit Advisory Committee
mar, 20 de octubre de 2026
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RESUMEN DE REUNIÓNGenerado por IA
Transit Advisory Committee — 20 de octubre de 2026
Esta fue una reunión ordinaria del Petaluma Transit Advisory Committee, con una duración aproximada de dos horas y media, dominada por presentaciones del personal sobre la electrificación de la flota, una iniciativa de coordinación de tránsito regional denominada MASCOTS 2.0 y los cambios de servicio propuestos para febrero de 2027. La reunión generó un debate sustancial y algunas críticas directas por parte de los miembros del comité.
Lista de asistencia
Miembros presentes: Abrams, Alden, Frushea, Vasquez (apellido incierto según la transcripción), Quint. Los miembros Acton y Colross estuvieron ausentes o no respondieron al llamado de lista.
Comentario público general
Robert Bailey, presidente del Petaluma Senior Advisory Committee, se dirigió al comité. Se presentó a sí mismo y expuso los tres objetivos prioritarios actuales del Senior Advisory Committee: (1) organizar una Senior Resource Fair el 20 de marzo de 2027, un evento de medio día con puestos informativos que conecta a adultos mayores con las aproximadamente 75 organizaciones que los atienden en el sur del condado de Sonoma; (2) mapear y mejorar los recursos relacionados con la muerte, la agonía, los cuidados paliativos y el apoyo al duelo en la comunidad; y (3) participar en el proceso del Fairgrounds Master Plan para defender las necesidades de los adultos mayores, incluyendo características de accesibilidad y de centro de resiliencia. Bailey señaló que Petaluma Transit ya había respondido con entusiasmo a la invitación de participar con un puesto en la Resource Fair, y alentó a los miembros del comité a asistir o participar.
Aprobación del acta — 15 de septiembre de 2026
No se propusieron cambios al acta publicada. Fue aprobada sin objeciones.
Votación: Aprobada por consenso; no se registró conteo formal.
Comentario del comité
El miembro Frank (apellido incierto) informó desde su rol de enlace con el Concejo Municipal que las reuniones recientes del Concejo habían sido relativamente breves tras un período intenso relacionado con el Plan General. Señaló que el Concejo adjudicó el contrato la noche anterior para el proyecto PIPS Parallel Main, que consiste en la sustitución de la antigua tubería de fuerza de alcantarillado que va desde la estación de bombeo de Hopper Street hasta Ellis Creek. El proyecto forma parte de un bono de aproximadamente $70 millones aprobado hace cerca de dos meses. Se espera que la construcción comience en primavera. Una senda multiuso de 10 pies integrada en el Active Transportation Plan de la ciudad será construida a lo largo de un tramo de la ruta (Marina a Casa Grande), financiada de forma independiente al bono.
El miembro Dave indicó que se retiraría de la reunión antes de que finalizara y planteó preguntas al personal, incluyendo su interés en conocer el propósito de una visita propuesta a las instalaciones de Gilardi y si la asistencia de los miembros del comité aportaría algún valor más allá del educativo.
Comentario del personal — Modernización y electrificación de la flota
La directora de tránsito Maria presentó una actualización sobre la transición gradual de la ciudad hacia una flota de cero emisiones, siguiendo el Zero Emissions Bus Rollout Plan de 2023.
Fase 1: Cuatro autobuses de ruta fija con batería eléctrica, entregados el verano pasado, están en servicio. Según se informó, los conductores han estado respondiendo preguntas de pasajeros que asumen que los autobuses funcionan con diésel debido a preocupaciones sobre el costo del combustible.
Fase 2: Cinco camionetas Ford Transit eléctricas de batería para el servicio de paratránsito Access by Lumago acaban de ser entregadas y están siendo rotuladas; deberían aparecer en las calles antes de la próxima reunión del TAC.
Fase 3 (próxima): Cinco autobuses adicionales de ruta fija con batería eléctrica están en pedido a New Flyer. Petaluma Transit fue promovido en la cola de producción, lo que el personal describió como una buena noticia. Se ha programado una reunión de inicio con New Flyer para el 12 de noviembre, de 9 a.m. a mediodía, en Petaluma. Se invitó a los miembros del comité a asistir en persona o por Zoom; al menos dos miembros expresaron interés en asistir en persona. El personal señaló que la sesión podría no ser grabada debido al contenido de carácter reservado, pero lo confirmará con New Flyer.
Fase 4: Se ha presentado una solicitud de subvención (programa TCP) para financiar los autobuses restantes necesarios para alcanzar la flota completa de 20 vehículos (13 de ruta fija, 7 de paratránsito). Se esperan decisiones sobre el financiamiento federal en diciembre o enero. El personal reconoció que la meta de electrificación total para 2030 depende de recibir este financiamiento, y que los vehículos de la Fase 4 podrían no llegar hasta mediados de la década de 2030, superponiéndose potencialmente con la jubilación de los primeros autobuses eléctricos. La miembro del comité Gail presionó para obtener claridad sobre la meta de 2030 frente al plazo más largo; el personal reconoció la tensión pero señaló que el plan sigue siendo buscar financiamiento de forma agresiva mientras se retiran los vehículos diésel a medida que lleguen los eléctricos.
La construcción de la infraestructura de carga está en camino de completarse para diciembre de 2027.
Comentario del personal — MASCOTS 2.0 / Coordinación regional del servicio
La directora de tránsito Maria presentó una iniciativa de coordinación de servicio regional denominada MASCOTS 2.0 (basada en un estudio previo del corredor 101), desarrollada en colaboración por Petaluma Transit, Sonoma County Transit y Santa Rosa City Bus, con el apoyo de consultores de SCTCA. El estudio opera bajo el nombre de marca SonomaSync y tiene como objetivo eliminar el servicio duplicado, mejorar las conexiones con el ferrocarril SMART y planificar como si las tres agencias fueran un único sistema de tránsito.
Cambios propuestos clave para Petaluma, vigentes a partir de febrero de 2027:
Eliminar la Ruta 10 (Petaluma Boulevard North): la Ruta 48 de Sonoma County Transit asumirá la cobertura en ese corredor.
Eliminar la Ruta 24 (ruta de acceso Kaiser/médico): se cita la baja afluencia de pasajeros. Las medidas de mitigación se manejarán mediante la reserva anticipada de Access by Lumago (ver más adelante).
Reestructurar la Ruta 2: La ruta será rediseñada para servir a la estación SMART Petaluma North y hacer un circuito por el Santa Rosa Junior College (SRJC), operando aproximadamente de 7 a.m. a 6 p.m. Durante las horas pico (mañana y tarde), un autobús adicional continuará sirviendo el trazado occidental existente para mantener el acceso al Petaluma Health Center y otras paradas. Este servicio está financiado en parte por una subvención operativa de dos años del SMART North Connector (~$80,000/año) más $25,000/año de SRJC.
Cambios en Access by Lumago: La planificadora del personal Carly presentó dos mejoras: (1) Preferencia de modo: la aplicación redirigirá a los pasajeros hacia los autobuses de ruta fija cuando el viaje pueda ser atendido razonablemente de esa manera, liberando capacidad de microtránsito para quienes genuinamente no pueden usar la ruta fija; y (2) Reserva anticipada: los pasajeros con citas médicas en Kaiser o en el Petaluma Health Center podrán reservar un viaje con antelación, brindando una confiabilidad actualmente no disponible con el modelo bajo demanda.
El debate fue sustancial y en ocasiones crítico. Los temas principales incluyeron:
Brechas de equidad y difusión: El miembro Eric y la miembro Vasquez plantearon preocupaciones de que los miembros de la comunidad más dependientes de las Rutas 10 y 24, incluidos residentes hispanohablantes y pasajeros de bajos ingresos, podrían no haber tenido una participación adecuada en el proceso de difusión. El personal reconoció la preocupación y señaló los esfuerzos de difusión en español, pero acordó que se necesita más trabajo. La miembro Gail señaló que el comité ha escuchado durante años sobre necesidades no atendidas en la Ruta 24, particularmente el acceso a Kaiser, y expresó incomodidad ante la posibilidad de que esas voces aún no estén plenamente representadas.
Transparencia financiera: El miembro Frank preguntó si los cambios de febrero son neutrales en cuanto a costos y si se está pidiendo al Concejo que los apruebe o simplemente se le informa. El personal confirmó que los cambios están diseñados para ser neutros en costos mediante la reasignación de recursos de las Rutas 10 y 24, pero reconoció que los datos financieros completos aún no están finalizados; Mimi (personal de finanzas/operaciones) presentará cifras detalladas en la reunión del TAC de noviembre. El personal también confirmó que se informa al Concejo en lugar de pedirle que vote: los cambios de horario están bajo la autoridad del personal y la supervisión asesora del TAC.
Preocupación por obligaciones no financiadas: El miembro Quint expresó preocupación de que coordinar con otras agencias podría crear obligaciones de servicio implícitas que limiten la flexibilidad de Petaluma para hacer recortes futuros donde sea necesario, y preguntó si existe un memorando de entendimiento formal. El personal confirmó que no hay ningún acuerdo vinculante y que Petaluma conserva plena discreción sobre su propio calendario.
Encuadre de la difusión: El miembro Frank y otros señalaron que la presentación de MASCOTS 2.0 había sido incluida en la sección de "Comentario del personal", que no permite comentarios públicos. Frank solicitó que futuras presentaciones de esta naturaleza se ubiquen como puntos de agenda para permitir la participación pública. El presidente estuvo de acuerdo y se comprometió a plantear esto con el personal antes de que se establezca el orden del día de la próxima reunión.
Brecha en el servicio de fin de semana: Los miembros plantearon la preocupación de que Sonoma County Transit brinda servicio de fin de semana en corredores que Petaluma Transit no cubre, y preguntaron si el intercambio de servicio aborda adecuadamente esa situación. El personal acordó investigar los datos de afluencia de pasajeros de fin de semana de Sonoma County Transit en los corredores afectados.
South Petaluma Boulevard: Un miembro del comité expresó pesar por los residentes de viviendas para adultos mayores en South Petaluma Boulevard que habían dependido de la Ruta 101, ahora discontinuada, para acceder al centro de la ciudad. El personal señaló que el servicio de Access by Lumago está disponible allí y que la difusión hacia esa comunidad aumentaría.
El personal ofreció retrasar los cambios de febrero si el comité consideraba que se necesitaba más información. El comité no votó formalmente por el retraso, pero indicó en términos generales que desea que la presentación de noviembre incluya datos financieros detallados antes de que se dé alguna dirección definitiva.
Próximos puntos de agenda
El personal señaló los siguientes temas para futuras reuniones del TAC: resultados de la encuesta piloto de Lumago (noviembre); actualización financiera (noviembre); transporte escolar de Petaluma City Schools (una fuente de financiamiento para los viajes escolares termina al final del año fiscal y se necesita un plan); lanzamiento del servicio de SRJC; opciones multimodales de Access by Lumago; actualización sobre la prioridad de señales de tránsito (un miembro solicitó una actualización sobre si la preemción de señales podría operar de forma proactiva en lugar de solo cuando los autobuses llevan retraso); y el desarrollo de un plan de trabajo anual del TAC.
La reunión se levantó a las 6:41 p.m.
Puntos clave
Se propone la eliminación de las Rutas 10 y 24 en febrero de 2027, con Sonoma County Transit asumiendo Petaluma Boulevard North y la reserva anticipada de Access by Lumago destinada a cubrir la brecha de acceso a Kaiser; sin embargo, los miembros del comité quieren datos financieros detallados y un análisis de equidad antes de dar su aprobación.
La Ruta 2 será reestructurada para servir por primera vez a la estación SMART y al SRJC, financiada por una subvención de dos años; los recorridos en horas pico preservarán el acceso al Petaluma Health Center.
MASCOTS 2.0 es un esfuerzo de coordinación regional para eliminar el servicio duplicado entre tres agencias y planificar como un sistema unificado; sin embargo, no cuenta con un memorando de entendimiento vinculante, y los miembros del comité presionaron en torno a la transparencia, el riesgo fiscal y si la difusión llegó a los pasajeros más afectados.
Cinco nuevos autobuses eléctricos de ruta fija están en pedido (Fase 3), con una reunión de inicio el 12 de noviembre; la electrificación total de la flota a 20 vehículos para 2030 sigue siendo el objetivo, pero depende en gran medida de las decisiones de financiamiento federal pendientes que se esperan este invierno.
La reunión del TAC de noviembre será decisiva, con los detalles financieros sobre los cambios de servicio de febrero, los resultados de la encuesta piloto de Lumago y un mayor debate sobre la eliminación de la Ruta 24 en la agenda.
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Qué ocurrió en esta reunión
Aprobación de Actas de la sesión del 15 de septiembre de 2026
The committee moved to approval of the minutes from the previous meeting. No members proposed any changes to the minutes as posted. The minutes were approved without modification as presented.
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1ProceduralAprobación de Actas de la sesión del 15 de septiembre de 2026
El concejo municipal revisará y aprobará el registro escrito oficial de lo ocurrido en la sesión del 15 de septiembre de 2026.
Qué ocurrió
The committee moved to approval of the minutes from the previous meeting. No members proposed any changes to the minutes as posted. The minutes were approved without modification as presented.Transcripción literal disponible
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* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] PROGRESS. [CALL TO ORDER] GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PETALUMA TRANSIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR TUESDAY, OCTOBER 20TH, 2026. STEPHANIE, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? ABRAMS. HERE. ACTON? ALDEN? HERE. COLROSS? FRUSHEA? HERE. VASQUEZ IZEGARY? HERE. QUINT? HERE. THANK YOU. [GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT] ALL RIGHT. NOW WE WILL, UH, MOVE TO GENERAL, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT. DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMITTEE'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES SUBJECT TO THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE, UM, ONE CARD, UH, FOR A SPEAKER. AND, BUT BEFORE WE GO ON, DID WE RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, SO ROBERT BAILEY. HI EVERYBODY. I AM THE ROBERT BAILEY AS ANNOUNCED. I AM CHAIR OF THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE. UH, I'M HERE TO, WELL, OBSERVE, FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE UP TO, SEE WHETHER ANY, ANY OF IT, UH, RELATES TO WHAT THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S JOB IS, WHICH TO IS ADVISE CITY COUNCIL ON MATTERS RELATED TO THE NEEDS OF OLDER ADULTS IN THIS COMMUNITY, UH, WHICH COMPRISE ABOUT A THIRD OF THIS COMMUNITY, PEOPLE OVER 60. AND TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT, WHAT WE'RE UP TO AND, UH, INVITE YOU TO AN EVENT THAT WE WILL BE HAVING. SO FIRST OF ALL, WHAT WE'RE UP TO, UH, I'VE BEEN CHAIR NOW FOR THREE MEETINGS. WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A, A NEW GOAL SETTING PROCESS FOR THE SENIOR COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THREE MAJOR GOALS OVER THE NEXT HOPEFULLY YEAR, MAYBE TWO YEARS.
NUMBER ONE IS WE WILL BE HOSTING THE SECOND, NOT ANNUAL, MAYBE BIANNUAL, RESOURCE FAIR IN MARCH 20TH NEXT YEAR. UH, THIS FAIR, IF YOU ATTENDED THE ONE IN OCTOBER 25TH, UH, IN OCTOBER OF 2025, YOU'LL KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT. WE ARE INVITING AGENCIES, ORGANIZATIONS AND PROFESSIONALS WHO SERVE THE OLDER ADULT COMMUNITY IN SOUTH COUNTY TO PRESENT THEIR SERVICES AT A TABLING EVENT, MUCH LIKE A MEET AND GREET KIND OF EVENT. IN 2025, WE HAD OVER 30 EXHIBITORS AND OVER 200 AND, OVER 200 ROUGHLY ATTENDEES TO THE DAY, DAY LONG EVENT. THIS YEAR IT'S A SHORTER EVENT. IT GOES FROM 10 TILL ONE. AND, UH, WE HAVE SO FAR, UH, IDENTIFIED, IF YOU CAN BELIEVE IT, ABOUT 75 ORGANIZATIONS WHO SERVE THE OLDER ADULT COMMUNITY IN THE SOUTH COUNTY. IT'S AN AMAZING LANDSCAPE FROM RECREATIONAL TO HEALTHCARE, TO CARE, TO DEATH DOULAS AND BEYOND. UH, IT'S AN AMAZING RESOURCE. THE GOAL OF THE RESOURCE FAIRY AND THE, AND OUR PRIMARY GOAL OF THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS TO INCREASE AWARENESS OF THESE RESOURCES AND TO GET THE RESOURCES TO WORK TOGETHER COLLABORATIVELY, COOPERATIVELY, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT EACH IS DOING AND TO WORK TOGETHER TO ACCOMPLISH AND MEET THE NEEDS OF OLDER ADULTS IN THIS COMMUNITY. UH, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. UM, I HAVE SENT OUT THE 75 NOTIFICATIONS. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE DOZEN BACK ALREADY, ALTHOUGH IT'S STILL SIX MONTHS AWAY. SO THAT'S A BIG EVENT THAT WE ARE DOING. AN ALL VOLUNTEER COMMITTEE OF THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS DOING THIS WITH SOME ASSISTANCE FROM THE SENIOR CENTER, OF COURSE. OUR SECOND GOAL IS, UH, WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, I'M GONNA SAY DEATH AND DYING AND RESOURCES TO SUPPORT DEATH AND DYING IN THIS COMMUNITY. EVERYTHING THAT GOES FROM TELLING YOUR FAMILY ABOUT DEATH AND DYING TO GRIEVING, MOURNING, UH, CARE, HOSPICE. AGAIN, A HUGE ISSUE IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR OLDER ADULTS. THERE ARE RESOURCES AROUND. THEY'RE NOT WELL COMMUNICATED. THEY'RE NOT COORDINATED.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH A TEAM OF OUR, OUR, OUR COMMITTEE TO IDENTIFY THOSE RESOURCES, BRING THEM TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE GAPS AND OPPORTUNITIES AND NEEDS ARE IN THE COMMUNITY [00:05:01] TO ENHANCE THOSE SERVICES THAT RELATE TO DEATH AND DYING. IT'S KIND OF A DIFFICULT SUBJECT AND, UH, WE'RE FACING IT AND, UH, WE ALL FACE IT AND FOR THAT MATTER. AND SO IT'S, WE FEEL IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THOSE RESOURCES, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY AND, AND DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. OUR THIRD, UH, GOAL IS ONE WE PROBABLY SHARE WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT, HAS GOT TO DO WITH I MAY... I DON'T SEE THE TIMER ON THERE, SO I'M - YEAH, THE TIMER'S NOT ON, SO MAYBE WE ARE ABOUT IT. I HAVE, YOU SAID I HAD 20 MINUTES, RIGHT? UM, THE, UH, THE THIRD, THE THIRD MAJOR GOAL WE'RE PURSUING IS, UH, HAS TO DO WITH THE FAIRGROUNDS MASTER PLAN. UH, THE SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS STRUCK A SUBCOMMITTEE AGAIN TO WORK WITH THAT PLANNING GROUP TO ENSURE THAT THE NEEDS OF OLDER ADULTS ARE BEING MET IN THAT MASTER PLAN. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE RESILIENCE CENTER ISSUES SUCH AS HANDICAPPED ACCESS, PUBLIC TOILETS, UH, A HOST OF ISSUES THAT RELATE TO OLDER ADULTS AND OTHERS, WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN THAT PLAN AND ENCOURAGING THAT THOUGH TO BE GIVEN TO OLDER ADULTS WHO ARE OFTEN NOT RECOGNIZED AND WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING TOWARDS THAT. WE HAVE SOME OTHER ISSUES OR, UH, OPPORTUNITIES WE'RE, UH, PURSUING AROUND INTERGENERATIONAL PROGRAMMING, UH, THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO SOME GOALS IN THAT AREA. BUT OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO, YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME ACTION FROM US. AND INDEED, IN RELATIONSHIP TO YOUR COMMITTEE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND YOUR COMMITTEE OR YOUR, YOUR, YOUR ORGANIZATION, PETALUMA TRANSIT HAS BEEN INVITED AND HAS RESPONDED AS INTERESTED PARTICIPANTS IN THE RESOURCE FAIR, WHICH I WAS VERY ENCOURAGED. I GOT A VERY QUICK RESPONSE AND I WAS DELIGHTED TO GET THAT. UM, SO THE TRANSIT WILL BE IN THERE AND I'M HOPING THAT, UH, UH, YOU WILL, UM, ATTEND.
IF YOU OPERATE OR ASSOCIATE WITH AN ORGANIZATION, PLEASE, UH, LET ME KNOW AND WE CAN INVITE YOU TO PARTICIPATE. THANKS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. IF ANYBODY QUES - ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR THEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PARTICULAR, UH, PRESENTATIONS, SO WE'RE MOVING TO APPROVAL [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] OF THE MINUTES. DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY CHANGES THEY WANTED TO PROPOSE, UH, FOR THE MINUTES AS POSTED? NO. OKAY. THEN THE, UM, MINUTES ARE APPROVED WITHOUT CHANGE AS PRESENTED. OKAY. UH, WE HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION. AND, UH, WE'RE MOVING ON [COMMITTEE COMMENT] TO COMMITTEE COMMENT. DURING COMMITTEE COMMENT, MEMBERS ARE INVITED TO BRIEFLY SHARE UPDATES RELEVANT TO THIS COMMITTEE, INCLUDING LIAISON REPORTS FROM OTHER CITY BODIES AND MAKE REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS SHOULD BE LIMITED TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, AND THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. SO WE'LL BEGIN WITH YOU, FRANK. WOULD, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, COMMITTEE COMMENT? SURE. UH, I GUESS I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY IN GENERAL THAT, UH, CITY COUNCIL, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A, WE HAD A, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A, A STRETCH THERE WHERE WE WERE VERY BUSY. WE HAD A NUMBER OF LATE MEETINGS, UH, SOME PRETTY BIG, HEAVY TOPICS, THE GENERAL PLAN, ET CETERA. UM, BUT REALLY THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS HAVE BEEN SUPER LIGHT, UM, WHICH IS A KIND OF A WELCOME REPRIEVE AFTER A HEAVY AGENDA, UM, HEAVY SET OF AGENDAS. UM, LAST NIGHT'S MEETING, PROBABLY NOT NECESSARILY TRANSIT RELATED, BUT I THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO JUST SHARE THE NEWS. UM, CITY COUNCIL AWARDED THE CONTRACT FOR THE NEW PIPS PARALLEL MAIN, WHICH IT'S A PRETTY BIG, I MEAN, IT'S ONE OF THE LARGER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IN THE CITY.
UM, THERE'S CURRENTLY ONE, UM, SO, SO THE CITY'S CURRENT SEWER SYSTEM, EVERYBODY'S, UM, YOU KNOW, SEWER, SEWAGE FLOWS TO THE PUMP HOUSE, WHICH IS ON HOPPER STREET, AND THEN GETS TRANSFERRED OUT TO ELLIS CREEK FOR TREATMENT. THAT GETS TRANSFERRED THROUGH ONE PIPE THAT HAS EXCEEDED ITS USEFUL LIFE. UM, AND, UM, AND SO THE CITY, I, I WANNA SAY IT WAS PROBABLY S - EIGHT WEEKS AGO OR SO, UH, MAYBE A LITTLE LONGER, APPROVED A BOND MEASURE FOR THE PIPS PROJECT. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT BOND MEASURE WAS IN THE TUNE OF $70 MILLION, AND, UH, AND THAT'S FOR [00:10:01] THE REPLACEMENT OF THE PUMP HOUSE AND THE SEWER LINE. THIS, THE CONTRACT FOR THE SEWER LINE WAS AWARDED LAST NIGHT, SO A REALLY KIND OF A BIG MILESTONE FOR THE CITY AND, AND, UH, CONSTRUCTION SHOULD START IN THE SPRING. UH, THERE IS AN ACTIVE, THERE, UH, ON A SECTION OF IT FROM THE MARINA TO CASA GRANDE WILL BE A 10-FOOT, UM, UH, MULTI-USE PATHWAY THAT WILL BE INTEGRATED INTO THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. SO THAT'S A, THAT'S NOT BEING PAID FOR WITH THE BOND MONEY, THAT'S SEPARATE, BUT IT WILL GO IN AS PART OF THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT. THANK YOU. ERIC? UH, NONE FROM ME. THANK YOU. LESLIE? NOTHING FROM ME EITHER. THANK YOU. DAVE? UH, I'LL JUST TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MENTION THAT I WILL BE LEAVING A LITTLE EARLY THIS EVENING, ABOUT, OH, MAYBE 5:45 I'LL TAKE OFF. I'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED SOME QUESTIONS TO, UH, THE CHAIR AND TO MARIA. UH, ONE I WANTED TO ADD TO THAT IN CASE THIS HAPPENS AFTER I'VE, I'VE LEFT IS, UM, THE, UH, OFFER OF THE VISIT TO THE GILLARD FACILITY WAS REALLY INTERESTING. UM, IF YOU COULD COMMENT A LITTLE BIT AT THE RIGHT TIME ON WHAT, WOULD WE ADD ANY VALUE BY BEING THERE OR WOULD IT JUST BE FOR OUR, OUR EDUCATION? MM-HMM. AND I JUST... OKAY. THANK YOU. THANKS, DAVE. AND I HAVE NO COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. UM, MOVING ON TO STAFF COMMENT. [STAFF COMMENT] DURING STAFF COMMENT, STAFF WILL PROVIDE BRIEF UPDATES RELEVANT TO THIS COMMITTEE.
DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS AND STAFF SHOULD BE LIMITED TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, AND THERE SHOULD BE NO DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS. HMM. THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. THAT'S ME. THAT'S YOU. THAT'S ME. YEAH. MANAGER'S REPORT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, SO FIRST THIS AFTERNOON, I WANTED TO GO OVER OUR FLEET MODERNIZATION AND ELECTRIFICATION. AND TO, UM, DAVE'S POINT, WE, I ACTUALLY DO HAVE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA GO OVER WHEN WE DO TALK ABOUT THAT. BUT LET ME JUST DO A LITTLE BIT OF TABLE SETTING. IT'S ALL IN THE, ALL IN YOUR PACKET. UM, BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED THAT THIS, UM, THE TRANSITION TO A ZERO EMISSIONS FLEET IS HAPPENING. YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT. I JUST WANNA REALLY SHOW THAT A LOT GETS IN THE WAY. I'VE, I'VE WORKED WITH OTHER AGENCIES WHO'VE GOTTEN BUSES BEFORE THEY GET CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE OR VICE VERSA AND BUSES THAT YOU NEED TO PLUG INTO A DIESEL GENERATOR. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAN GO WRONG, BUT THIS IS ALL REALLY... AND I, I CREDIT, OF COURSE, UM, PREVIOUS LEADERSHIP AS WELL AS, UM, MIMI SULLIVAN WHO'S BEEN MANAGING IT AS, AS THIS TRANSITION. UM, JUST AS A REMINDER, THE CITY'S, UH, 2023 ZERO EMISSIONS BUS ROLL-UP PLAN WAS ESTABLISHED, AND WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THAT STRUCTURE. THE ZERO EMISSIONS BUS PLAN IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'LL BE DOING FOR LONG AND SHORT-RANGE TRANSIT PLAN, RIGHT? BUT IT'S ONLY ABOUT ZERO EMISSIONS. SO I DID A LITTLE, A QUICK OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE PHASING. IT IS NOT FULLY COMPLETE IN TERMS OF EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE, BUT TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHERE WE ARE, WE HAVE OUR FOUR, UM, BATTERY ELECTRIC FIX ROUTE BUSES, WHICH FUNNY ENOUGH, A DRIVER TOLD ME THIS MORNING, "YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE ASKING IF THESE RUN ON DIESEL BECAUSE THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE GA - COST OF GAS." AND I WAS LIKE, "WELL, THAT'S ALL." AND SO THEY'RE HAVING FUN TELLING PEOPLE THEY'RE ELECTRIC. PHASE TWO, WE, UM, HAVE JUST GOTTEN OUR FIVE BATTERY ELECTRIC FORD TRANSIT VANS.
THOSE ARE BEING, UM, BRANDED RIGHT NOW FOR ACCESS. SO YOU'LL SEE THOSE ON THE STREET PROBABLY BEFORE OUR NEXT TAC MEETING. UM, AND, BUT THE BRANDING IS PRETTY LIGHT BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'RE IN THIS TRANSITIONAL PHASE, SO WE WENT REALLY INEXPENSIVE AND, UM, BUT IT WILL SHOW ACCESS. UM, PHASE FOUR, WELL, EXCUSE ME, PHASE THREE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, IS THE FIVE NEW FIRE BATTERY ELECTRIC FIX ROUTE BUSES WE HAVE COMING IN. SO WE GOT MOVED WITH NEW FLYER, THE WAY IT WORKS, THIS IS OUR, THE PERSON WHO'S, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING OUR BUSES THAT WE'RE BUYING THEM FROM. UM, YOU GET KIND OF LINED UP IN A QUEUE AND WE GOT WORD THAT WE'VE GOTTEN BUMPED UP IN THE QUEUE. SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD NEWS THING FOR US, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE. AND MORE BUSES I GET IN, WE GET IN THERE ELECTRIC, THE MORE I CAN RETIRE OUT AND WE CAN GET THAT YARD FULLY ELECTRIC AS IT, AS IT SHOULD AND WILL BE. UM, I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE OPTIONS WITH NEW FLYER IN TERMS OF HAVING BOARD PARTI - OR COUNCIL, UH, COMMITTEE PARTICIPATION, UM, IF YOU DO WANNA PARTICIPATE AND KINDA GO OVER WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE COVERING WITH US. A BUS BUILD IS, UM, I'M A MARKETING PERSON, SO TO ME A BUS BUILD IS SUPER BORING, BUT IT'S INTERESTING FOR MANY MOMENTS, RIGHT? BUT THERE IS, THERE'S POINTS WHERE IT'S VERY INTERESTING, LIKE WHAT IS THINGS AND THEN YOU'RE TALKING, WE LITERALLY HAVE TO GO OVER EACH KIND OF NUT AND BOLT. AND I THINK MAYBE DAVE, YOU'VE BEEN ON THESE WHERE YOU'RE SITTING AND KINDA GOING THROUGH LINE BY LINE, UM, BUT THERE ARE DECISIONS TO BE MADE. UM, SO WE'RE FOLLOWING PRETTY CLOSELY THE BUS BUILD OF THE PREVIOUS FIVE FOR ELECTRIC, EXCUSE ME, THAT WE GOT. UM, BUT WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME PARTICIPATION.
[00:15:01] I WANTED TO TALK, UM, ALSO ABOUT PHASE, PHASE FOUR, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MONTH WHERE WE, UM, CAR - SORRY, MIMI WENT TO COUNCIL TO SEEK APPROVAL TO APPLY FOR A TCP GRANT THAT WOULD HELP WITH OUR FINAL PHASE OF OUR FUNDING, BUT THAT'S STILL OUT. IN TERMS OF OUR CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, WE WILL BE COMPLETED BY DECEMBER 2027. SO THIS IS WONDERFUL. EVERYTHING'S REALLY PUT IN PLACE. UM, IN TERMS OF THE NEW FLYER BUS BUILD AND KICKOFF, UM, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM NOVEMBER 12TH, AND THEY WILL BE ON SITE. AND TYPICALLY WHAT THEY DO LIKE TO DO IS TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND BE IN PERSON. SO LET ME JUST BRING UP THE SCHEDULE THAT THEY HAVE FOR US. OKAY. AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE IT ON YOUR SCREENS. IT'S NOT THAT EXCITING, BUT, UM, SO THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH, UM, AND I, UM, FROM 9:00 TO NOON IS WHAT OUR EXPECTED TIME IS. THIS WOULD BE, WE HAVE AN OPTION TO DO IT. AGAIN, NO REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU PARTICIPATE, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO, UM, YOU COULD PARTICIPATE OVER ZOOM OR IN PERSON, BUT HERE'S KIND OF THE AGENDA AND WHAT WILL BE HAPPENING. SO, UM, WELCOME INTRODUCTIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATION PLAN, KEY MILESTONES. IT'S REALLY AN INTRODUCTION TO NEW FLYER. AND THEN THEY'LL GO OVER FROM 10:55 TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE 11:20. IT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE KIND OF THE TRAINING THAT'S INVOLVED. THERE'S A LOT INVOLVED IN TERMS OF HOW WE TRANSITION OVER. UM, AND THEN JUST DELIVERABLES, OPEN DISCUSSION AND CLOSE OF MEETING. NOW, I THINK IT'S, IT IS LIKE THERE, THIS IS, THERE'S STILL MOMENTS TO HAVE LIKE IN, I THINK, HMM, BECAUSE I'M THINKING OF THE BEST WAY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WHICH IS HOW MUCH IN- INPUT DO YOU HAVE AT THIS STAGE? IT'S MINIMAL BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY KIND OF BEEN DETERMINED, BUT THERE'S NO WAY FOR YOU ALL TO PROVIDE INPUT IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN PART OF THE PROCESS, RIGHT? LIKE I, I GUESS I'M WONDERING AT WHAT POINT YOU WANT TO GET IN ON THE TRAIN OF EDUCATION BECAUSE THERE'LL BE ANOTHER BUS BUILD LATER, YOU KNOW?
AND SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I BROUGHT UP WITH THE BUS BUILDER, DESIRE FOR STROLLER PARKING, UM, BECAUSE WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT MIGHT BE ONE THING WE END UP DOING BECAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE AND WHAT A BUS BUILD CONSISTS OF, AND IF THERE ARE ANYTHING FLEXIBLE AND JUST WHAT THE PROCESS IS. SO, UM, WHAT WE'D LOVE TO KNOW FROM YOU T - I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SCHEDULE AND WHAT WE'RE GOING OVER. JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS JUST THE KICKOFF. WE WILL BE MEETING WITH NEW FLYER FOR THE, UNTIL WE GET THESE ALMOST EVERY WEEK TO EVERY OTHER WEEK. UM, AND IT'S AGAIN, TO GO OVER EACH PIECE OF THE BUS. SO TODAY WHAT I'M ASKING, UM, THE COMMITTEE IS IF ANYBODY, NUMBER ONE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WHETHER YOU'RE INTERESTED IN JOINING THE NEW FLYER KICKOFF, WHICH WILL BE IN PETALUMA, WE WON'T BE GOING, UM, ON ANY FUN TRIPS, NOT THIS TIME. AND, UM, IF YOU PREFER TO PARTICIPATE ON SITE OR VIA, VIA ZOOM AND WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF ANYBODY KNOWS TODAY. I WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE. OKAY. AND I WOULD MUCH RATHER BE IN PERSON. OKAY, GREAT. 'CAUSE I WOULD FALL ASLEEP ON A THREE-HOUR ZOOM. YES. AND MAYBE WE JUST GO. ANYBODY ELSE? AND I'M RETIRED, SO I CAN. YES, I LOVE IT. UH, PUT ME DOWN TENTATIVELY. OKAY. PERFECT. AND DOES IT MATTER IF IT'S ZOOM OR IN PERSON? IN PERSON IS GOOD. IN PERSON. PERFECT. WE ONLY NEED ONE TO CONFIRM WE WILL BE DOING THIS IN PERSON. A ZOOM LINK WILL BE AVAILABLE, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW IF NO ONE WOULD BE AVAILABLE, RIGHT? SO, UM, EVERYBODY'S MORE THAN WELCOME TO JOIN US.YOU DON'T NEED TO TELL ME TODAY. I JUST NEEDED TO KNOW IF ANYONE WANTED TO GO TODAY SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE. IS THAT GOOD? IS, IS IT GONNA BE RECORDED ON ZOOM? WE CAN ASK. YEAH. WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY HAVE IT RECORDED.THAT SHOULDN'T BE... THE ONLY ISSUE I WOULD SEE IS I'LL TALK TO NEW FLYER - UH-HUH. BECAUSE PROPRIETARY ITEMS ARE IN THERE. I COULD SEE THEM HAVING SOME ISSUE WITH THAT.
UM, BUT I CAN CONFIRM THAT THEY WILL OFFER A ZOOM LINK EVEN IF WE DO DO IT IN PERSON. OKAY, GREAT. AND I WILL SAY THE LAST HOUR WILL BE BORING-ISH. I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT IT IS, YOU KNOW? SO, AND, AND SO YOU WANNA JOIN FOR PART OR POP OFF, WHATEVER IT IS. BUT I THINK THE MORE YOU, YOU KNOW, I'M, I, I AM A LITTLE SILLY ABOUT IT, BUT I DO THINK THE MORE YOU GUYS CAN EXPERIENCE IT, THE BETTER YOU'LL BE TO UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT WE, WE DO ON THIS SIDE. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST. AND, UM, BORROWING A PAGE FROM LAST MONTH'S MEETING, HOW ABOUT WE DO QUESTIONS AFTER EACH - OKAY. CATEGORY SINCE YOU, YOUR STYLE HAS BEEN TO PUT EVERYTHING INTO ONE - YES. PRESENTATION. SO DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS, UH, ABOUT THE FLEET MODERNIZATION AND ELECTRIFICATION? OR DESIRE TO GO? I DO. YEAH. MM-HMM. UM, DOES THIS MEAN THAT A, A COMPLETE FLEET IS 24 FIXED ROUTE BUSES AND SEVEN PARATRANSIT ACCESS BY LUMAGO? [00:20:01] I DON'T, I FORGET WHAT THE NAME OF THE MAIN BUS IS. A, A FULL FLEET FOR US IS 20. OKAY. YEAH. SO BECAUSE I ADDED UP THE FOUR, SO... OH, I CAN'T ADD. THAT'S 14. OKAY. AND THEN THE, UM - AND THEN SEVEN IS 21. OKAY. SO I... 'CAUSE WE STARTED WITH FOUR. SO WE HAVE NINE ELECTRICS, RIGHT? WITH THE FOUR WE HAVE AND FIVE COMING. MM-HMM. WE HAVE FIVE PARAS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. THAT'S OUR PHASE TWO. MM-HMM. VANS, THE VANS. MM-HMM. RIGHT. MM-HMM. FOUR AND FIVE, RIGHT. SO WE INTERRUPT - SO WE STILL NEED THREE ELECTRICS. ARE YOU, ARE WE MESSING UP? GO AHEAD. NO, I THINK I'M NOT FOLLOWING CORRECTLY. OKAY. WE HAD FOUR FIXED ROUTE DELIVERED LAST SUMMER. WE HAD FIVE PARATRANSIT DELIVERED THIS SUMMER. RIGHT. RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE NINE TOTAL THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE FIVE MORE FIXED ROUTE ORDERED RIGHT NOW THAT WILL BE DELIVERED SOMETIME IN THE VOID. RIGHT. UM, AND THEN WE PUT IN AN APPLICATION WITH THE TCP PROCESS. THAT WAS THE THING THAT WE WENT TO COUNCIL FOR RECENTLY, UM, FOR THE REMAINDER TO COMPLETE TO 20. OKAY.
BUT WE'VE GOT FIVE ELECTRIC VANS NOW AND WE'RE REQUESTING TWO MORE, WHICH WOULD BE SEVEN. CORRECT. AND PLEASE FORGET MY 24 THAT I EVER SAID THAT, BUT WE HAVE FOUR NOW OF, OF THE FIXED ROUTE. WE ARE GETTING A MEETING ABOUT THE NEXT FIVE AND WE'VE PUT IN FOUR, FIVE, IT SAYS TWO ADDITIONAL PARATRANSIT AND FIVE ADDITIONAL BUSES AND FIVE AND FIVE MAKE 10. FIVE ARE ON ORDER. SO WE WOULD HAVE A TOTAL OF 13 FIXED ROUTE AND SEVEN PARA. SHE'S ASKING ABOUT PH - SHE'S ASKING ABOUT PHASE FOUR BECAUSE PHASE FOUR. YEAH. PHASE FOUR. MM-HMM. PHASE FOUR WILL BE DEPENDING ON WHEN WE RECEIVE THE FEDERAL FUNDING, BECAUSE THAT'S THE BIGGEST BULK. SO IT MAY BE PARA FIRST, IT MAY BE FIXED ROUTE FIRST DEPENDING ON HOW IT COMES. GRAND TOTAL 20, TWO ADDITIONAL PARA FROM THE FIVE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, AND THEN THE REMAINDER WOULD BE FIXED ROUTE. SO 13 TOTAL FIXED ROUTE. NO MORE THAN 20. WE CAN'T CHARGE MORE THAN 20. I THINK THE CONFUSION IS ON PHASE FOUR, CORRECT? BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER WE'RE REQUESTING. SO WHAT I - BUT TWO ADDITIONAL - RIGHT. ADDITIONAL BUSES. RIGHT. AND I, SO CAN YOU LOOK AT THE PACKET? I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THIS PART WHERE THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN FOR PHASE FOUR, DO YOU SEE? I'M SORRY, BUT IT DOESN'T ADD UP. YEAH. AND THE REALITY IS THAT PHASE FOUR IS NOT FOR SURE AT ALL. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S STUFF WE'VE APPLIED FOR. BY THAT TIME, WE MAY BE RETIRING VEHICLES. AND SO WHAT WE HAVE IS A FLEET. SO WE HAVE A FLEET MANIFEST. SO BY THE TIME WE GET TO THIS PHASE FOUR, WE'LL BE IDENTIFYING POTENTIALLY ELECTRICS TO RETIRE FROM THE ONES WE GOT. THAT'S HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE TO GET THAT PHASE FOUR. OKAY. SO WHAT'S THE EXPECTED LIFE OF THE - 12 YEARS. 12 YEARS. SO THEN WE EXPECT PHASE FOUR TO BE POSSIBLY NOT HAPPENING UNTIL 2037. YES. OKAY THEN. YEAH. AND THE, THE, YEAH . MM-HMM. DAVE? I, I GUESS SOMEWHERE IN ALL THAT, I GOT CONFUSED. I HEARD THE INITIAL QUESTION BEING, WHAT IS OUR FULL FLEET SIZE REGARDLESS OF FUEL SOURCE FOR PURPOSES OF REPLACEMENT? 20. IS IT 20 PLUS SEVEN?
NO, IT'S 20 COMBINED. IT'S 20- 20 COMBINED. COMBINED. TH - 13 AND SEVEN. MM-HMM. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE, WE PUT WIGGLE ROOM. WHY I ALWAYS SAY 20 AND NOT 13 AND SEVEN IS BECAUSE EXACTLY OF GAIL'S QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M GONNA GET FUNDED FOR. SO ALTHOUGH WE CAN RIGHT NOW ALWAYS HAVE RETIRED VEHICLES I CAN HOLD. SO 20'S THE OVERALL FLEET, BUT WHAT I RETIRE, WHAT WE RETIRE WILL BE BASED ON WHAT FUNDING WE GET IN WITH THAT PHASE. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO APPLY, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT LOOKING GREAT FOR FUNDING FOR ANYTHING WITH ELECTRICITY OR ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE. SO I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T ANTICIPATE IT, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE. YOU'LL, YOU MAY SEE US EVEN TRY TO GET MORE MONEY, WHICH WOULD PUT US OVER JUST WITH THE ASSUMPTION. NOT REALLY, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON IT. OKAY. SO YOU GO AHEAD MIMI. SO IT'S LIKE STOP TALKING ABOUT MONEY. IT'S GOOD. SO THE SECOND PARAGRAPH S- SAYS THAT THE CITY'S 2023 ZERO EMISSION BUS ROLLOUT PLAN HAS A GOAL OF TRANSITIONING THE ENTIRE FLEET BY 2030. AND WE DO NOT EXPECT TO MEET THAT GOAL. I, I THINK WE, WE EXPECT TO NOT MEET THAT GOAL. DO YOU WANNA CHIME IN? ALL PENDING FUNDING. YEAH, PENDING FUNDING. PENDING FUNDING WE CAN MEET THAT GOAL OR AT LEAST BE ON ORDER. UM, SO WE CAN HAVE THE BUSES ON ORDER AND THEN DEPENDING ON PRODUCTION TIME. UM, BUT WE SHOULD FIND OUT SOMETIME IN MID-WINTER, DECEMBER, JANUARY ABOUT THE NEXT PHASE OF FEDERAL FUNDING. BUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR BUSES SCORES MUCH MORE COMPETITIVELY THAN FEDERAL FUNDING FOR FACILITY REPAIRS. SO MORE THAN LIKELY WE WOULD RECEIVE THAT FUNDING, BUT THE FUNDING REQUEST THAT WE PUT IN FOR OUR FACILITY REPAIRS MAY NOT GO THROUGH BECAUSE IT SCORES THE HIGHEST, UM, [00:25:01] IN THE REGION FOR, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS. AND SO THAT'S THE HIGHEST SCORES USUALLY. OKAY. I DIDN'T GET THE BIT ABOUT THE FACILITY. OH, YEAH. JUST - HOW DOES THAT PLAY INTO... ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LA - THE GRANTS THAT - YEAH.
TO ADDRESS OUR CA - OUR DEFERRED CAPITAL? THAT IS CORRECT. SO IT'S ADDRESSING THE DEFERRED CAPITAL, BUT IN THAT GRANT APPLICATION, IT'S THE DEFERRED CAPITAL FOR LIKE THE FACILITY REPAIRS, BUT IT'S ALSO THE NEXT, THE PHASE FOUR OF THE ELECTRIC BUS FUNDING. IT'S ALL ONE APPLICATION THAT GOES THROUGH. SO THAT'S WHY I, I REFERRED TO IT. MY APOLOGIES. UM, AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE ARE MORE LIKELY TO GET SCORED UNLESS, YOU KNOW, THE FEDERAL POLICIES CHANGE. OF COURSE. BUT THE REGIONAL POLICIES, WE'RE MORE LIKELY TO SCORE POSITIVELY FOR THE FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THE BUSES, BUT EV - ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN TOO, SO. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO WE ARE ON TRACK FOR THE 2030. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, AGAIN, F - PENDING FUNDING. I WILL SAY WE ALSO OPERATE WITH SOME SPARES AND SOME RETIRED BUSES WE'RE CURRENTLY NOT USING AT ALL, RIGHT? SO WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE BY 2029, YOU WILL HAVE MANY UPDATED PRESENTATIONS ON THIS. I KNOW. YEAH. BUT, BUT I JUST DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WHEN ON THE ONE HAND YOU SAY WE EXPECT THAT IT'S LIKELY WE'LL BE RETIRING BUSES THAT ARE GONNA LAST UNTIL 2037 BY THE TIME WE GET OUR PHASE FOUR. AND THEN YOU SAY IT'S LIKELY THAT WE WILL MEET OUR 2030 GOAL BECAUSE THAT SEEMS SEVEN YEARS APART. AND, AND I FEEL THAT I'M NOT GETTING - YEAH. I THINK IT- IT FEELS LIKE NOT A STRAIGHT STORY. WELL, NO, AND I'M HAPPY TO. AND I THINK MAYBE LOOKING AT THE PAST OF THE AGENCY WOULD BE HELPFUL. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE RUNNING BUSES FROM 1998. NO ONE WANTED THAT, RIGHT? NO. THE PROJECTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN THAT THOSE SHOULD HAVE BEEN RETIRED AND THEY WEREN'T. MY GUESS WOULD BE BECAUSE OF DEFERRED THINGS THAT LEADERSHIP AT THAT TIME MADE A DECISION. SO WE CREATE AND FOLLOW THIS PLAN, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS ADJUSTING BASED ON THE FUNDING. BUT OUR INTENTION IS WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THOSE 20 VEHICLES AND TO RETIRE THEM, BUT WE DON'T, WE HAVE A PLAN, WE APPLY FOR IT, WE'RE ON TRACK FOR IT.
OUR, OUR ELECTRIFICATION, SO I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUES EXCEPT WITH WHEN ARE WE ABLE TO RETIRE SOME VEHICLES. THAT'S GONNA KIND OF BE THE, THE DANCE WE PLAY A LITTLE BIT AS WE GET CLOSER. BUT HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO BRING THIS SO THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE TO SEE. THANK YOU. BECAUSE I THINK IT'LL HELP FOR SURE. YEAH, THANK YOU. YEAH. IT'S GOOD. IT'S ONLY 20, SO IT'S A GOOD SMALL. ALL RIGHT. WELL, LET'S MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE. IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, ARE WE GOOD? ALL RIGHT. SO WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE AUGUST SERVICE IMPLE- IMPLEMENTATION. UM, I WILL SAY THAT WE DID, SO, UM, UNLESS WE HAVE QUESTIONS ON THAT, EVERYTHING'S GONE VERY WELL. WE DID DO A LUMAGO SURVEY, WHICH ARACELI WILL BE PRESENTING IN NOVEMBER. DID YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT BRIEFLY IF THEY HAD ANY DIRECTION OR... I MEAN... YES. SO, UH, I JUST BASICALLY WANTED TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE SURVEY RESULTS OR ANYTHING THAT MAYBE WE COULD DIVE DEEPER INTO IT. UM, YEAH. YEAH. I THINK SO, UM, LET ME KIND OF PREFACE IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE. WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF DATA, LIKE A TON. YEAH. AND SO SHE'LL... ARACELI WILL BE DOING A PRESENTATION ON THE DATA. SOME OF THE INTERESTING FINDINGS SHE'S HAD ALREADY IS TO KIND OF SEE A DISCREPANCY, ONE THAT WAS INTERESTING TO ME BETWEEN OUR ENGLISH SPEAKERS AND OUR SPANISH SPEAKERS. AND WE ARE SEEING A HUGE DISCREPANCY RIGHT NOW THAT IS AN AUTOMATIC KIND OF CONCERN. YEAH. SO, SO - ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT YOU - IF YOU'RE LOOKING - SO THAT I, WE CAN DIRECT, UM, THE PERSON THAT'S HELPING US WITH THE SURVEY AND ANALYZING ALL THE RESULTS AND WHATNOT. SO, UH, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP IN THE PAST ABOUT, UH, FOLKS FROM DISADVANTAGED BACKGROUNDS, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IF THERE'S AREAS OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU REALLY ARE DYING TO KNOW, LIKE, PLEASE SEND THEM OUR WAY SO THAT I CAN DIRECT, UH, THE TEAM INTO LOOKING INTO THAT FOR US. YEAH. SO THIS IS A SURVEY. JUST LET ME, LET ME CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT.
SO WE COMPLETED A SURVEY AND WE FINISHED IT IN OCTOBER ONE. UM, IT WAS ABOUT 280 RESPONDENTS. WE HAVE ALL THAT DATA. WE'RE COMPARING IT TO A FEW THINGS. AND SO WE'LL BE DOING A PRESENTATION, BUT IF THERE'S A PORTION OF THIS YOU'RE SPECIFICALLY INTERESTED, LIKE WHAT WAS TRIP PURPOSE, WHAT WAS THE EQUITY PIECE, OR WHAT WERE PEOPLE DOING WHEN THEY WEREN'T WRITING, YOU'RE GONNA GET ACCESS TO ALL OF IT, BUT WE CAN'T DO A PRESENTATION ON EVERY SINGLE PART OF IT. SO WE WOULD JUST SAY IF THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THE LUMAGO SURVEY, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF IT, BUT IN TACT, IN, IN HONOR OF LIKE THE TACK TIME, WE DON'T WANNA SPEND THE ENTIRE TIME. SO... JUST, SO FRANK? [00:30:01] WELL, I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK - RIGHT. UH, GIVEN THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE QUESTIONS IN FRONT OF US. RIGHT. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK A, A, JUST SORT OF A BROAD, A, A GOOD ANALYTICAL, BROAD OVERVIEW OF THE DATA WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO START. AND THEN - OKAY. ONCE WE SEE THAT, UM, THEN IF WE WANT ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, WE CAN ASK ABOUT IT AND YOU CAN COME, YOU KNOW, BRING IT BACK. BUT, YOU KNOW, MOST OF OUR AI TOOLS THESE DAYS, I KNOW NOBODY LIKES HEARING THE AI WORD, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I USE IT ALL THE TIME IN ANALYTICS IN MY WORK. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST ASKING IT TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, A GOOD, BROAD - UH-HUH. OVERVIEW OF THE DATA IS PROBABLY A GOOD PLACE TO START AND THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE. OKAY. AND THAT I THINK WE CAN DO, BUT I, I WASN'T SURE IF THERE WAS ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR YOU GUYS WERE LIKE REALLY DYING TO KNOW, SO. GREAT. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? LESLIE? YEAH, I THINK I WOULD BE MOST INTERESTED TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE KIND OF TEASED OUT FROM THE SURVEY WHAT, WHAT THE LUMAGO SURVEY CAN TELL US ABOUT WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE CHANGES TO OUR FIXED ROUTE. LIKE WHAT IS IT INFORMING US ABOUT WHERE WE NEED TO BE CONNECTING PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN GET ON THE FIXED ROUTE? OKAY.
GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU. ERIC? UM, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, SECOND WHAT FRANK SAID IS WITHOUT SEEING THE SURVEY ITSELF, WE CAN'T HAVE AN INTELLIGENT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. SO IF YOU WANTED TO SEND OUT - YEAH, WE CAN TOTALLY DO THAT. THE SURVEY QUESTIONS, WE COULD RESPOND IN EMAIL IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT. AND THEN I DID HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS OUT OF TOWN FOR MOST OF SEPTEMBER. SO IF I GOT THE SURVEY, I DIDN'T SEE IT. SO WHERE WOULD I HAVE GOT IT? IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE APP, SO YOU SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A PUSH NOTIFICATION. I KNOW EMAILS WERE ALSO SENT OUT. SO THE TEAM WAS CONSTANTLY ANALYZING AND LOOKING INTO THE RESPONDENTS AND CO- COMPARING THAT TO USERS. SO ANYBODY THAT HADN'T RESPONDED THAT IT, IT WAS AN ACTIVE USER, WE WOULD THEN SEND ANOTHER PUSH NOTIFICATION. UM, THAT WAS ALSO SHARED ON SOCIAL MEDIA. SO THERE WAS DIFFERENT WAYS OF ACCESSING IT. SO I, I WASN'T, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF I, LIKE, WERE, WERE THE SURVEY QUESTIONS IN AN EMAIL BECAUSE THEN I COULD JUST GO LOOK AT THEM THERE IF I KNEW WHO, WHO - NO, IT WOULD HAVE JUST BEEN A LINK TO THE FORM, WHICH HAS NOW BEEN DISABLED. UM, BUT I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SEND THAT YOUR WAY. OKAY, THANKS. YEAH. THANK YOU. AWESOME. UM, AND I WILL SAY I'M DIRECTING STAFF HERE TO ASK YOU ALL BEFORE THEY DO PRESENTATIONS, BECAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES WHEN WE GET INTO PRESENTATIONS, WE'RE MISSING THE PIECE THAT'S NEEDED. AND SO IF YOU EVER FEEL LIKE, "HEY, NO, JUST DO A BROAD PRESENTATION," THAT'S A TOTALLY GREAT ANSWER. WE'RE TOTALLY HAPPY WITH THAT. WHAT WE DIDN'T WANNA HAVE IS THAT EACH TIME WE BRING A PRESENTATION, THERE'S MORE SPECIFIC INFORMATION NEEDED AND IT WOULD'VE WASTED SOME OF YOUR TIME. THAT'S OUR MAIN CONCERN. BUT IF YOU'RE OKAY, WE'RE ALWAYS OKAY. UM, BUT WE, WE'RE HERE FOR YOU AND THE PUBLIC, SO JUST LET US KNOW WHAT YOU NEED. UM, OKAY, SO NOW THIS GOES TO MY PRESENTATION. YAY.
UM, SO TODAY WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT MASCOTS 2.0, WHICH I, I BRIEFLY MENTIONED LAST MONTH AND DAVE, UM, YOU KIND OF SPOKE TO IT IN ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS, WHICH WAS, IS MASCOTS 2.0 NOW SONOMASYNC OR SONOMASYNC NOW MASCOTS 2.0? AND SO AGAIN, JUST TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE I'M GETTING THE TABLE SET FOR US, WE'VE STARTED, UM, A STUDY, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT WITH SONOMASYNC WITH THE OTHER REGIONAL OPERATORS, RIGHT? TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIND HOW WE CAN COLLABORATE. THIS IS VERY MUCH THE SAME WORK THAT WAS DONE IN MASCOTS. AND WHAT WE'VE REALIZED IS WHEN WE'RE GOING OUT, AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT IN THE PRESENTATION, THAT USING THE FRAMEWORK OF MASCOTS, WHICH HELPED TO CONSOLIDATE SOME WORK, TO HELP TO FIND REDUNDANCIES, AND ACTUALLY ENDED UP INCREASING OVERALL RIDERSHIP, WHICH IS THE, ALWAYS THE GOAL, IS INCREASING OVERALL RIDERSHIP. AND SO WITH ALL OF THOSE WINS, WE'VE OPTED, WE BEING THE OTHER TWO BUS AGENCIES, AS WELL AS SCTCA, TO USE THE MASCOTS 2.0 MODEL, BECAUSE IN REALITY, SONOMA IS NOT OUTSIDE, RIGHT? WE HAVE MARIN COMING IN AND GOLDEN GATE. AND SO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION THAT I'LL SHOW YOU NOW, THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE, UM, PRESENTED AT COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 16TH OR A VERSION THEREOF. THIS IS A JOINT PRESENTATION. SO THE PRESENTATION YOU'RE GETTING TONIGHT IS BEING GIVEN ALL OVER SONOMA COUNTY BY SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT, AS WELL AS RACHEL ED FROM [00:35:01] CITY BUS. SO AGAIN, I WANNA JUST REITERATE THIS IS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT AND WE WANNA CONTINUE IN THAT WAY. AND HOPEFULLY THE PRESENTATION WILL, WILL ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. AND I'LL KIND OF DO, DO A LITTLE DETERMINATION OF THE DIFFERENCES. UM, SONOMASYNC, AGAIN, WAS TO LOOK AT EACH AGENCY AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU LOOKED AT THE RESOURCES AS ONE AGENCY, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS PRESENTATION KIND OF SHOWS. SO LET ME GO AHEAD AND SHARE THAT NOW. I'M GONNA DO IT IN A PDF BECAUSE IT'S EASIER FOR ME. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE, THE PRESENTATION WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE - IT WAS NOT.
OKAY. AND, AND IT WAS NOT FOR REASONS THAT ARE - THAT'S OKAY. OH, OKAY. I WAS JUST WANTING. I, I MEAN, I THINK IT IS INTERESTING. ONE THING I WILL SAY IS WHEN YOU'RE WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH TWO OTHER AGENCIES AND YOU'VE NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE, YOU REALIZE THINGS ARE TRICKY, RIGHT? UM, SO EACH AGENCY HAS THEIR OWN METHODOLOGY FOR MAKING CHANGES AND THEIR OWN HIERARCHY FOR CHANGES. SO, UM, WE'LL BE HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THAT AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. LET ME GO AHEAD AND START THE SHARE HERE. ALL RIGHT. HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS, HERE IS MASCOTS 2.0. SO AGAIN, AS I SAID, THIS IS THE PRESENTATION THAT'S BEING DONE AND HAS BEEN DONE NOW, UM, IN TERMS OF COLLABORATIVE EFFORT. SO YOU SEE RIGHT HERE, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT LOGOS ON THIS. AND THIS IS HOW WE WANNA BEGIN TO OPERATE AS IF, BECAUSE OUR, OUR, OUR PASSENGERS DON'T CARE THAT THERE'S MORE THAN ONE BUS, RIGHT? THEY JUST WANNA GET WHERE THEY NEED TO GO. AND WE'VE SEEN THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. UM, AND THIS HAS BEEN PART OF, UH, OUTREACH AS WELL OVER AND OVER AGAIN. SO THESE AGENCIES HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER SINCE MASCOTS. OH, THERE WE GO. WHICH WAS IN PHASE ONE. SO PHASE ONE OF MASCOTS, JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH PHASE ONE, THIS LOOKED AT THIS EXACT CORRIDOR, THE 101 CORRIDOR. HMM. AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THE 101 CORRIDOR, IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT THAT TRANSIT, LOOK AT THE DUPLICATION OF EFFORTS, RIGHT? WE HAVE TWO SERVICES DOING THE EXACT SAME TRIP. AND SO, WE'RE NOT EXACT SAME, BUT A, A VERY DUPLICATIVE TRIP. GOLDEN GATE, UM, TRANSIT PROVIDES MORE FREQUENT MARIN SAN FRANCISCO SERVICE, BUT NOW THEY NO LONGER OFFER SONOMA SERVICE. I THINK I SKIPPED A SLIDE. NO, I DIDN'T. WHAT IS MASCOTS? THERE IT IS, SORRY. COLLABORATIVE COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS. SO IN THIS CASE, IT WAS THE 101 CORRIDOR. IT'S FOCUSED ON REGIONAL SERVICE, AND IT WAS GROUNDED IN POST-PANDEMIC LEVELS AND BEHAVIOR AND WORK PATTERNS. SO MTC HAS DONE A GREAT DEAL ON LOOKING AT WORK PATTERNS, UM, AND THEY'RE WEIRD, RIGHT?
OUR TRAVEL PATTERNS HAVE CHANGED SINCE COVID. UM, AND SO THIS REALLY WORKED TO KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT THOSE TRAVEL PATTERNS ARE, HOW WE CAN GROW RIDERSHIP, AND HOW WE CAN USE EXISTING RESOURCES. AND AGAIN, MASCOTS WAS MEANT TO WORK AS IF WE WERE ONE AGENCY, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS WORKING WITH MULTIPLE AGENCIES. MASCOT'S PH- PHASE ONE, UM, SAW AN INCREASE. UH, THIS WAS THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. WHAT THEY SAW WAS, AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA SPEND TOO MUCH TIME TALKING ABOUT THINGS OUT OF OUR AREA, BUT, UM, THEY, THEIR INITIAL RESORTS WAS A 28%, UM, SMART RIDERSHIP INCREASE, AND STRANGELY ENOUGH, A RIDERSHIP ON GOLDEN GATE. ALTHOUGH IF YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH MASCOTS, RIGHT, WAS THAT INSTEAD... SO WE USED TO HAVE GOLDEN GATE, AS YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE, GOLDEN GATE DOING THE SERVICE AND SMART ON THE TRAIN. AFTER MASCOTS, GOLDEN GATE 101 WENT AWAY TO, TO STOP THE DUPLICATION. THEN THEY FOR - FOCUSED THEIR SERVICE ON WHERE THE HOLES WERE, WHICH IS WHAT IS RESULTING IN THAT INCREASE YOU SEE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE COVERING MORE PEOPLE, WHICH IS THE OVERALL GOAL, IS HOW DO WE MOVE THE MOST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, RIGHT, IN AN EQUITABLE WAY. FOR PHASE TWO, WE WANT BETTER LOCAL BUS CONNECTIONS, UM, TO SMART IN SONOMA COUNTY SPECIFICALLY. SO MASCOT'S PHASE TWO IS TO LEVERAGE THESE CONNECTIONS TO SMART. IT'S TO REDUCE DUPLICATION OF SERVICE AND TO, AGAIN, PLAN AS IF WE'RE ONE BUS AGENCY. SO WE HAVE THREE BUS AGENCIES OPERATING IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA, MORE THAN THREE ACTUALLY, BUT THREE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WELL, WE HAVE AM - WE HAVE AMTRAK, WE HAVE GOLDEN GATE, WE HAVE, WE DON'T MARIN ANYMORE, UM, AND THEN WE HAVE SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT MESS. AND IT'S GOT A LOT OF SERVICE COMING IN, RIGHT? AND THEN SMART, OF COURSE. BUT WHEN WE DO SERVICE CHANGES, WE DON'T DO THEM TOGETHER. I DO MY SERVICE CHANGE FOR PETALUMA, THEN SMART MAY DO A CHANGE LATER, SONOMA COUNTY MAY DO A CHANGE LATER, AND WE DO NOT LOOK AT EACH OTHER'S SCHEDULES, YET WE'RE OPERATING ON THE SAME CORRIDORS.
AND SO THIS IS WHAT MASCOT'S 2.0 HOPES TO ADDRESS, IS LOOKING AT US AS ONE, ONE AGENCY, LOOKING AT IT AS A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS, ALWAYS FOCUSED ON THE CUSTOMER, AND THEN WITH THIS IDEA OF SHARED FISCAL AND ON-TIME PERFORMANCE ISSUES, BECAUSE THE ISSUES WE'RE EXPERIENCING HERE, THEY'RE EXPERIENCING AS WELL, RIGHT? THEY ALSO HAVE BUDGET DEFICITS. THEY'RE ALSO HAVING ON-TIME PERFORMANCE ISSUES. AND SO IT'S REALLY BEEN GREAT TO SHARE OUR RESOURCES AND SAY, "WE NEED TO ADDRESS [00:40:01] THESE ISSUES, BUT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THEM TOGETHER." UM, WE'RE GONNA REALLY WANNA IMPROVE CONNECTIONS, UM, AND FOCUS ON CORRIDORS. SO THAT'S, LIKE, JUST LIKE MASCOT'S 1.0, OR, YOU KNOW, PHASE ONE, UM, RACHEL LEED, UM, EMILY BETTS AND I ARE ALL LOOKING, AND THESE ARE THE THREE AGENCIES, S- SANTA ROSA CITY BUS, SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT NEST. SO WHAT YOU HAVE HERE ON YOUR SCREEN IS ACTUALLY SANTA ROSA, BUT IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW WE'RE WORKING COLLABORATIVELY. SO YOU SEE IN THEIR CURRENT SCHEDULE, YOU SEE ALL THOSE LINES OF MASSIVE, RIGHT, TRAFFIC, OR NOT TRAFFIC, BUT SERVICE. NOW WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES, WE WOULD REDUCE THAT SERVICE, BUT WE'RE SCARED TO REDUCE SERVICE BECAUSE WE'RE THEN RELYING ON ANOTHER PARTNER TO PICK UP THAT SERVICE. SO LET ME SHOW YOU HOW IT'S GONNA WORK HERE IN PETALUMA. AND THERE'S ANOTHER SANTA ROSA EXAMPLE. OKAY. SO WE HAVE ONE SLIDE ON HERE, AND THIS IS BECAUSE THE CORRIDORS WE'LL BE LOOKING AT ARE THE DUPLICATIVE SERVICE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UM, BOTH ON PETALUMA BOULEVARD NORTH AND NORTH MCDOWELL. SO WHAT WE HAD IS BOTH AGENCIES OPERATING ON THOSE CORRIDORS AND NOT COLLABORATING. UM, WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGH, AND YES, IT STARTED WITH SONOMA SYNC, AND THEN WE'RE USING THAT WORK WITH MASCOTS, BUT THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE ON PETALUMA BOULEVARD NORTH ONLY SERVED, UM, BY THE NEW C - SO THEY'RE GONNA CONSOLIDATE 44 AND 48, OR 40, 44 WILL BE DISCONTINUED. NORTH MCDOWELL WILL ONLY BE SERVED BY PETALUMA TRANSIT.
SO THIS REALLY, IN EFFORT, IS TAKING SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT OFF NORTH MCDOWELL, AND THEN WE'RE GETTING OFF OF PETALUMA BOULEVARD. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO WE'RE GONNA SWAP IT SO THAT WE'LL O - WE HAVE COVERAGE, BUT NOT ONE AGENCY IS DOING THE COVERAGE FOR BOTH OR DUPLICATE OF SERVICE. UM, ONE OF THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS WAS, OF COURSE, WE, AND WE WERE ALREADY ON TRACK TO DO THIS, WAS, WAS TO SERVE THE JC. AND YOU'RE ALREADY FAMILIAR, WE HAD THAT GRANT COMING IN. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY PART OF THE PROCESS FOR US, BUT NOW PETALUMA TRANSIT IS SAYING, SONOMA COUNTY, WE WILL D - GET OUR SRJ STUDENTS WHERE THEY NEED TO GO. WE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM WITHIN THE CITY BECAUSE THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY. AND SO THIS TAKES OUT SOME OF THOSE TRIPS THAT SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT HAS BEEN OPERATING AND SERVING. BUT THE BENEFIT IS, AGAIN, WE'RE DOING THESE COLLABORATIONS TOGETHER SO PEOPLE WON'T BE DROPPED AND THEN WE HAVE TO SOLVE IT. WE KNOW WHEN THOSE TRIPS ARE, SO THEN WE'RE ADJUSTING OUR TIMETABLE TO MEET WHAT 44 AND 48 USED TO DO. IT, IT'S BUSINESS KIND OF SENSE, RIGHT? AND SO, UM, AND IT'S FUN, FOR SURE, AND IT ALLOWS US TO DO MORE WITH LESS, RIGHT? AND IT ALLOWS US TO IMPROVE RELIABILITY. UM, THIS IS NOT A GREAT SLIDE TO SEE THIS, BUT OF COURSE THIS IS AN OVERALL. AND CARLY WILL BE GIVING YOU PETALUMA TRANSIT SPECIFIC ONE, BECAUSE THIS IS A REGIONAL SLIDE DECK. I COULDN'T GO INTO AS MUCH DETAIL AS I WOULD'VE LIKED. BUT HERE IS THE, THE, UM, GO HERE. OH, THAT'S WINDSOR, SORRY. WE SAID IT WAS GONNA BE EASIER. I WANNA JUST SHOW YOU, THIS IS THE ROUTE TWO THAT CARLY WILL BE GOING OVER IN MORE DETAIL, THE NEW ROUTE TWO. UM, THE ISSUE THOUGH IS NOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS WE'LL GET SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT WON'T BE OPERATING ANYWHERE DOWN THIS LINE. THEY'RE INSTEAD GOING TO JUST GO ON THE BOULEVARD AND THEN WE'LL BE OFF OF THE BOULEVARD. OKAY? SO YOU CAN KINDA SEE HERE IN THIS SLIDE, I THINK A LITTLE BIT BETTER, ALTHOUGH WE ALSO HAVE SMART SERVICE HERE TOO.
SO HERE WE'RE, THIS IS SONOMA COUNTY WHERE PEDAL, WHERE ROUTE 10 WOULD GO. NOW, WE STILL HAVE ISSUES WITH ROUTE 24, AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THOSE. I THINK CARLY, YOU'LL COVER THAT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MITIGATION FOR THAT ROUTE, UM, BECAUSE JUST LIKE EVERYTHING WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE REDUCING SERVICE OR REALLOCATING, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT LEAVING ANYBODY LOST OR STRANDED. UM, AND SO CARLY WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. THE BENEFITS OF THIS IS IT'S GONNA IMPROVE RELIABILITY FOR PETALUMA BOULEVARD, RIGHT? UM, A- AND NORTH MCDOWELL WITH US FOCUSING ON THOSE CORRIDORS, IT ALLOWS US, UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON TIME POINT ANALYSIS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OUR ON-TIME PERFORMANCE IS PRETTY BAD. AND IT, IT, IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF OUR DRIVERS. I ALWAYS WANNA READ REALLY CLEAR. IT'S BECAUSE WHEN WE WROTE THOSE TIME POINTS, THERE WAS NO GATE THAT WENT UP AND DOWN WHEN A TRAIN CAME AND THERE WASN'T NEARLY AS MANY FOLKS. AND NORTH MCDOWELL DIDN'T HAVE ALL OF THOSE CROSSWALKS, RIGHT? WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WONDERFUL WORK ON NORTH MCDOWELL, BUT OUR ROUTES HAVE NOT REFLECTED THE CHANGE IN HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET NORTH, DOWN NORTH MCDOWELL. SO THERE'S A PROCESS OF KIND OF EVALUATING THOSE ROUTES. UM, LET'S SEE. KEEP ON GOING. OH, THERE WE GO. I CHANGED MY MIND. I'M ALWAYS GOING BACK TO POWERPOINT NOW. THIS IS ONE MORE THAT IS BEING DONE. LET'S SEE. UM, THERE'S OURS. SO I JUST, AGAIN, CARLY WILL GO OVER THIS IN MORE DETAIL. THIS IS THE WINDSOR, IT'S A WINDSOR CHANGE I WON'T GO OVER, BUT IT'S ALSO PART OF MASCOT'S 2.0. AND SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE, AGAIN, AS THIS, AS WE CONTINUE TO EVOLVE AND IDENTIFYING WHERE WE'RE DUPLICATING SERVICE, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO ADDRESS IT. AND OF COURSE, THIS FIRST GO WILL BE, UM, WITH OUR SCHEDULE RELEASE [00:45:01] IN FEBRUARY, BUT THIS WORK WON'T STOP AFTER FEBRUARY. WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK IN A COLLABORATIVE NATURE. UM, THE MAIN GOAL OF THIS IS JUST SHOWING THAT THESE CHANGES HAVE TO HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME, RIGHT?
THIS IS THE KEY COMPONENT. UM, SO WE WERE GONNA LAUNCH IN JANUARY, BUT WE, SOME OF THE OTHER AGENCIES NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME, SO TOGETHER WE DECIDED FEBRUARY'S FINE. AND THIS IS THE BENEFIT OF COLLABORATION, RIGHT? SO AS WE PULL THINGS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MESSAGING TO FOLKS, LETTING THEM KNOW, AND THEN WE HAVE A CLEAR, UM, STRUCTURE FOR WHAT THEIR ROUTES WILL BE. MAKE SURE I'M NOT SKIPPING ANYTHING. SHARED CHANGES, SEPARATE APPROVALS, ONE LAUNCH. SO I THINK IT'S, THIS IS GONNA PROBABLY PART OF THE EDUCATION PORTION OF IT, WHICH IT WAS AN EDUCATION PORTION FOR ME BECAUSE OUR PROCESS IS NOT AS EXTENSIVE AS SOMETHING LIKE SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT, WHERE DUE TO TITLE VI, THEY HAVE MULTIPLE CITIES THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND NOTICE. WE HAVE OURS, UM, WHICH IS PHENOMENAL. SO, YOU KNOW, WE, I, WE PRIMARILY USE TAC. UM, BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE AFTER THIS PRESENTATION IS WHO ELSE SHOULD WE BE INCORPORATING? BECAUSE THESE DECISIONS WILL CONTINUE TO ACT AS IF IT'S ONE AGENCY AND THAT'S, THAT'S BIG NEWS, RIGHT? AND I, AND SO I THINK COUNCIL AND ANYBODY ELSE YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE COMMENT ON THIS. WE WANNA BRING EVERYBODY ALONG ON THIS JOURNEY, WHICH IS THE, THE REASON WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING TO YOU TODAY. UM, SO HERE YOU CAN SEE WHAT OUR OUTREACH MEETINGS ARE AND WHAT THEIRS ARE AS WELL. AND, UM, THIS IS SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH THAT WAS DONE MAINLY WITH SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT OR PRIOR TO MY, ME BEING HERE, MASCOTS, PHASE TWO. THERE WAS A SURVEY, THERE WERE STRATEGIC PLAN, UM, PARTICIPANTS. IT TALKS KIND OF ABOUT WHAT THE, WHAT THE DESIRES WERE FROM THE COUNTY, WHICH IS TO PRIORITIZE FREQUENCY, RELIABILITY, AND THEN OF COURSE, CORE ROUTES AND EVERYBODY ON OUR OUTREACH WANTS TO GET TO SMART. WE WANTED TO INCLUDE SPECIFIC OUTREACH TO PETALUMA SINCE THERE ARE SOME CHANGES. AND YOU'VE SEEN A LOT OF THIS OUTREACH LAST MONTH'S TAC PACKET WENT INTO GREAT DETAIL ABOUT WHAT THE OUTREACH WAS, WHAT THE RESPONDENTS HAD SAID.
UM, AND THE MAIN THING WAS RI- RIDERS WANTED TO DEPENDABLE FREQUENT SERVICE ON TWO AND 11, BETTER CONNECTIONS TO SMART AND THE SRJC. THOSE WERE THE, THE BIGGIES, RIGHT? BUT YOU GOT A LITTLE FINE TUNING OF EACH ONE. UM, WE ARE PLANNING TO GO TO A COUNCIL NOVEMBER 16TH. WE'RE GONNA START, AND AGAIN, CARLY WILL BE ABLE TO TALK TO YOU IN MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT THE SCHEDULE WILL ENTAIL, UM, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO OUTREACH TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF THESE CHANGES. THIS IS NOT MY SLIDE, BUT I THOUGH IT WAS AN INTERESTING WAY AND KIND OF SHOWS JUST HOW TRICKY IT IS TO SHOW THE CHANGES THAT ARE GONNA BE NEED TO MAKE IN THE COUNTY. AND, AND ALSO TO, FOR ME, IT'S A GOOD REMINDER THAT OUR FOLKS DON'T STAY WITHIN PETALUMA, AND I, WE NEED TO MAKE CONNECTIONS SO THEY CAN TRAVEL THE ROUTE. UM, NEXT STEPS, YOU'LL, YOU KNOW, YOU WILL BE IN THE KNOW OF ALL THINGS BECAUSE YOU'RE THE, YOU'RE MY, MY MAIN FOCUS OF OUTREACH OTHER THAN THE OUTREACH WE DO, BUT YOU, YOU KNOW, WE COME HERE. SO THIS KIND OF JUST IDENTIFIES SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE DOING, AGAIN, IN COLLABORATION. SO WITH THAT, I WILL STOP SHARING AND I DID HAVE A TYPO, WHICH I DID MENTION, WHICH IS THE NOVEMBER 16TH. SO I CAUGHT THAT AND, OR NOT, YOU CAUGHT IT, THANK YOU. UM, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE A CHANCE FOR QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU'RE LEAVING, BUT I WANNA DEFAULT TO CHAIR. ALL RIGHT. UM, YES, DAVE. CAN I GO FIRST BECAUSE I DO - YES, ABSOLUTELY. WHA HAPPENS WITH FAREFREE? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. UM, AND SO S - WITH SONOMASYNC, I'VE, AND I KEEP KINDA JUMPING BACK BACK AND FORTH. I WOULD SAY SONOMASYNC IS THE STUDY. UM, MASCOT'S 2.0 IS THE IMPLEMENTATION. I THINK THAT'S THE WAY I WOULD DIVIDE IT UP IN TERMS OF HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO IN SONOMASYNC, WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING A FAIR ANALYSIS BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS IS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALL THESE ROUTES, THE NEXT THING IS, WELL, WHY DO I PAY ON THIS ONE AND NOT ON THIS ONE? AND SO THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF DOING AN EVALUATION.
UM, WE DO NOT HAVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS YET, BUT I HAVE ASKED TO HAVE A MECHANISM IN WHICH WE CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE FAREFREE AS LONG AS THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO DO SO. BUT IT MAY MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND AS WE GO FORWARD, REINSTATING A FARE, BUT THEN WE WOULD JUST SAY, OH, IT'S PAID FOR BY THE CITY OF PETALUMA IF THEY CHOSE TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. AND WE'RE NOT THE ONLY CITY IN THIS CASE. WINDSOR IS ALSO OPERATES FAREFREE ROHNERT PARK AS WELL, AND THEY PAY FOR THAT TO SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT. SO YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DAVE. OKAY. LESLIE, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS? OR COMMENTS, COMMENTS? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY. ERIC? MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS, WILL WE BE ABLE TO GET THIS PDF AFTERWARDS? WILL IT, AND WILL IT CONTINUE TO CHANGE? THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE TRICKY THINGS. SO I THINK WHAT WE HAD DECIDED, BECAUSE IN MASCOTS, [00:50:01] AGAIN, EVEN BIGGER AGENCIES, RIGHT? WE HA GOLDEN GATE SMART AND THE SAME THING CAME UP. THEY HAD ONE LANDING PAGE, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, WHICH IS WHY I PUT THAT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT MINE, SO THAT WE COULD HAVE, UM, KIND OF THE LIVE, THE MOST RECENT VERSION ON THERE. BECAUSE AS SOON AS I GIVE YOU THIS VERSION, I HAVE TWO OTHER PEOPLE WHO MAY MAKE CHANGES, AND ALTHOUGH WE COLLABORATE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE MY CON- CONCERN. BUT I WILL GET IT TO YOU, AND THEY'LL SAY DRAFT, AND THEN WE'LL FIND OUT. I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE HAVING SOME KIND OF WEBSITE DEDICATED, BECAUSE AS THESE, THESE CHANGES HAPPEN, FOR US, IT'S FAIRLY SMALL, BUT AGAIN, PEOPLE TRAVEL THROUGHOUT SONOMA COUNTY. WE'RE NOT JUST MEETING NEEDS OF PETALUMIANS. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT EVERYBODY IS PART OF THIS CONVERSATION AS WE GO FORWARD. RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH.
I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A FORMULATED QUESTION RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST MORE OF COMMENTS OF, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE OF IT LATER, BUT JUST SEEING THE CONSOLIDATION IS HELPFUL SO WE CAN HAVE THE COORDINATION, BUT IT'S ADDRESSING THOSE GAPS THAT I'M STILL LOOKING TO HEAR CLARITY ON. AND, AND, AND AGAIN, YOU'RE THE FIR - YOU'RE THE FIRST IN PETALUMA TO SEE IT, RIGHT? SO THIS MAKES SENSE AND THAT'S WHY WE BRING IT HERE FIRST, SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO ADDRESS. SO THE QUESTIONS, THE COMMENTS, THE CONCERNS, THAT'S PART OF THE SAUSAGE MAKING. SO IF YOU TELL ME THERE ARE CONCERNS, THAT'S WHAT I GO BACK AND REPRESENT WITHIN THIS. THANK YOU. FRANK? SO THERE'S GONNA BE A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL ON THIS IN NOVEMBER. AND WHAT'S THAT PRESENTATION GONNA BE LIKE? SAME PRESENTATION. SAME THING THAT YOU JUST SHARED HERE. SO THERE'S, SO THE PRESENTATION WON'T HAVE RECOMMENDED CHANGES. IT DOES. IT DOES. THEY'RE GETTING RID OF ROUTE 10 AND 24 AND THEY'RE MOVING SONOMA COUNTY TRANSITS 44, AND WE'RE GETTING RID OF THAT AND 48 WILL JUST RUN ON PETALUMA BOULEVARD NORTH. SO WHAT, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THOSE CHANGES TO THE CITY OF PETALUMA IS? AND, AND THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO WITH THIS, THE CHANGES FOR THIS NEXT SCHEDULE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COST NEUTRAL. HOWEVER, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ACTUALS, RIGHT? SO WE WON'T KNOW, BUT, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON. SO, YOU KNOW, MIMI WILL COME IN NOVEMBER WITH A PRESENTATION ON THAT. SO WHAT, UH, MASCOTS OR THE CONSULTANTS SPECIFICALLY SUGGESTED WAS THE REALLOCATION OF 1024 RESOURCES SO THAT WE COULD AFFORD THE CHANGES WE'RE GONNA BE MAKING SO THAT IT WOULD BE A ZERO SUM. LIKE, THERE WOULD BE NO COST CHANGE FOR US. AND THAT, BUT THAT'S FOR THE FIRST YEAR OR FOR... I, I GUESS WHERE, UH, YOU KNOW, O- ONE OF THE... I MEAN, IT, I SAW WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING OFF OF, UM, NORTH PETALUMA BOULEVARD, UM, AND WE'RE GONNA INCREASE SERVICE ON MCDOWELL.
AND, BUT I ALSO THOUGH I SAW QUICKLY IN THERE SOMETHING ABOUT 24 ALSO GOING AWAY. YES. SO 24 IS GOING AWAY. SO, AND SO IS ROUTE 48 SERVICING THAT? IT WILL NOT. AND CARLY WILL GO INTO THE SPEC - THE S - THE SPEC- SPECIFICS OF 24. SO WE'RE, UH, BUT I CAN JUMP TO IT. WE'RE GONNA, FOR THIS YEAR, WE'RE GONNA - OH, THERE'S MORE HERE? WELL, THIS IS THE MASCOTS. S- SO LET ME CLARIFY. WITH MASCOTS, BECAUSE IT'S REGIONAL, IT'S A LITTLE HIGHER LEVEL, RIGHT? OH. BECAUSE PEOPLE AT COUNCIL CAN ONLY GO, OR MOST OF THESE BOARDS WERE GOING TO. AGAIN, MINE IS THAT PROBABLY LIGHTEST LIFT COMPARED TO SONOMA COUNTY. IT'S A VERY BROAD OVERVIEW. HERE IN TAC, WE'LL HAVE CARLY, YOUR PLANNER, ACTUALLY SHOW YOU, AND THEN FINANCES, BUT WE WON'T BE GOING TO THAT LEVEL IN COUNCIL. THAT'S KIND OF, BUT WE CAN. I MEAN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, BUT THIS IS THE, THE FORUM IN WHICH WE DO THIS, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE YOUR GUIDANCE. UH, GOT IT. SO, WELL, I GUESS WHAT I'M A LITTLE, LIKE, WHAT, WHAT I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WENT THROUGH A BIG CHANGE, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT OUR FUTURE FINANCIAL OUTLOOK. WE WANNA HAVE, WE, YOU KNOW, UH, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN SOME CONTROL OR, YOU KNOW, WE BEING COLLECTIVELY PETALUMA MAINTAIN CONTROL OVER, UM, THAT. I'M CURIOUS IF THERE ARE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER UNFUNDED MANDATES IN THIS. SO, UM, LIKE, WHAT'S THE RISK THAT WE ARE OBLIGATED TO INCREASE SERVICE ON ONE ROUTE AND, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE FUTURE CUTS, AND SO WE HAVE TO MAKE CUTS, UM, WE'RE FORCED TO MAKE CUTS IN OTHER AREAS OF TRANSIT THAT MAY NOT BE THE BEST CUTS FOR THE CITY IN GENERAL, RIGHT? UM, YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT? MOST DEFINITELY. [00:55:01] AND I WILL ADD THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS THE BEGINNING STAGE, WHICH I GET WHAT YOU'RE, WHERE YOU'RE S - AND I DO THINK WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT POSSIBILITY IN THE FUTURE.
THE WAY THE MASCOT'S WORK HAS BEEN DONE RIGHT NOW, ALTHOUGH WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THESE CONSULTANTS TO GIVE US RECOMMENDATIONS, WE CAN ALSO PUSH BACK. WE DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS. 1024 WAS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING REDUCING, AND WE DO NOT HAVE MORE FUNDING, AND WE ARE GONNA NEED TO REDUCE IT. THE OUTREACH WE DID, THE 20 PLUS OUTREACH EVENTS WERE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO ASK THAT VERY QUESTION. SO THE GREAT THING IS, ALL OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS YOU'RE SEEING ARE THINGS FOR THE LAST MONTH AND A HALF WE'VE BEEN ASKING THE COMMUNITY ABOUT. EVENING SERVICE, WEEKEND SERVICE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU WANNA SEE BACK? WHAT ARE YOUR MOST IMPORTANT CORRIDORS? I, MYSELF, WAS VERY SURPRISED TO NOT HEAR MORE WEEKEND AND EVENING SERVICE REQUESTS. THAT WAS MY SURPRISE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I THOUGH WE'D BE FOCUSED ON NEXT, IN WHICH CASE, THAT WOULD BE THE PRIORITY. IN THIS CASE, THOUGH, OUR PRIORITY CONTINUES TO BE THE SAME, WHICH IS TO GET US STABILIZED. THIS IS JUST THE METHOD TO DO IT. SO IT'S NOT SIGNING US UP. WE'RE NOT IN KIND OF MOU. WE'RE NOT IN AN AGREEMENT. IT'S JUST LOOKING AT RESOURCES AND SAYING, HOW CAN WE SAVE MONEY AND HOW CAN SONOMA COUNTY SAVE MONEY AND US NOT HURT THE PASSENGER? BUT MOVING FORWARD, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK WE DO NEED, RIGHT, BECAUSE WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP OF SONOMASYNC OR MASCOTS 2.0? SONOMASYNC IS DESIGNED TO LOOK AT THE END GOAL OF FULL COLLABORATION, FULL COORDINATION, ONE AGENCY. MASCOTS IS JUST AN A- AN ACTION. SO I THINK THIS IS WHY I WANNA ELEVATE THIS CONVERSATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF, OF ANY CONSOLIDATION, WE ARE MANAGING IT AS WE GO. SO WE ARE VERY MUCH MANAGING THIS. THE, THE DECISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE WERE NOT MADE FROM MASCOTS. IT'S FROM US BRINGING IT HERE CONSISTENTLY TO EACH OF YOU. HERE'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING. HERE'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON RIDERSHIP FOR 1024. HERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE FINANCIAL OUTLOOK.
BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS SO IT'S A PRIORITY THAT WE'LL, WE'LL HOL - HANDLE CONTROL. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS AND WASN'T TOO RAMBLY. YEAH. KI- KINDA. I MEAN, I'M A LITTLE, I'M A LITTLE LOST. UM, BUT I THINK I GET IT. IS THE PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL, ARE, ARE YOU GOING TO BE ASKING COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN? I MEAN, SO, OKAY. SO, SO YOU'RE JUST GONNA GIVE COUNCIL SOME INFORMATION AND CHANGES ARE GONNA HAPPEN TO TRANSIT SERVICE. AND, UH, AND COUNCIL, WE'RE TELLING YOU ABOUT IT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON IT. IS THAT - AND, AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE IT DESIGNED RIGHT NOW THAT SCHEDULE CHANGES WE BRING TO YOU ALL HERE. SO WE DON'T HAVE OUR T... SO EACH, EACH AGENCY HAS WHAT'S CALLED A TITLE VI PLAN OR AN OUTREACH PLAN FOR WHEN YOU MAKE CHANGES TO A SCHEDULE. SO WE'VE CHANGED SCHEDULES QUITE OFTEN. WE USUALLY DO... I MEAN, PREVIOUSLY, I TH - NOT AS OFTEN MAYBE, BUT MOST AGENCIES DO IT OR REQUIRED EVERY SIX MONTHS OR SO. AND WE RARELY GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS. IT'S USUALLY MINIMAL CHANGES. BUT AS YOU KNOW, THE LAST ONE YOU WERE INVOLVED IN WAS A, A VERY LARGE REDUCTION IN SERVICE, RIGHT? AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE DATA THAT YOU NEEDED. SO WHAT WE DID WAS KIND OF GO OUT, GET THE DATA, GET THE ACTUALS, MAKE THE REDUCTIONS WE FELT WERE NEEDED. AND I STILL THINK WE ARE ALS - WE ALL A LITTLE LIKE, "OKAY, LET'S SEE WHERE THIS ALL LANDS." BUT WORKING WITH OUR FELLOW AGENCIES TO SAY, "HEY, YOU'RE GONNA..." OTHER AGENCIES HAVE CUT MORE THAN WE'RE CUTTING, RIGHT? AND I DON'T WANT THEM CUTTING HERE. I WOULD RATHER WORK WITH THEM FIRST AND MAKE SURE I CAN COVER THE SERVICE. SO HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT AND SAYING, "HEY, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT." BUT TO YOUR POINT, THERE AREN'T ANY, THERE IS NO MOU, AND THERE SHOULD BE. WE DO NEED TO HAVE... SO WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, AND FOR THOSE WHOEVER ATTEND THE SCTCA BOARD MEETING WHERE WE TALK ABOUT FINANCIALS AND HOW THOSE MONIES ARE DIRECTED TO US, WE DO HAVE SOMETHING...
AND I DON'T WANNA GET TOO FAR IN THE WEEDS, BUT YOU'VE HEARD IT, THE COORDINATED CLAIM. AND THE COORDINATED CLAIM IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT, COUNCIL MEMBER QUINT, WHICH IS WHAT ARE THE, THE COST OF THE SERVICE, RIGHT? AND THIS WAS A CONVERSATION YOU GUYS HAD BEFORE. WELL, IF WE GET RID OF 40 / 48, WHAT'S THE COST? AND WHAT THE DEEP DIVING IS, WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO GET TO. SO WE NEED, AND THAT'S PART OF SONOMA SYNC AND THE MASCOTS 2.0, IS A BETTER FORMULA SO THAT WHEN SONOMA COUNTY DOES COME INTO OUR SERVICE AREA, WHAT IS THE COST TO US? UM, AND, AND IS IT EQUITABLE? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IT IS, IT ISN'T. THE FUNDING IS KIND OF ALL WEIRD, WHICH IS WHY WE HAD THAT ISSUE WHEN THAT COORDINATED CLAIM CAME UP. MM-HMM. SO I FEEL LIKE I'M ADDING MORE MUD VERSUS MAKING IT ILLUMINATED, BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR WAS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR, WHICH IS A CLEAR FORMULA OF, LIKE, HOW MUCH DOES THIS ROUTE COST AND WHY ARE WE PAYING FOR THIS WITH THE COORDINATED CLAIM? MY GOAL RIGHT NOW HAS BEEN GET SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT OUT OF PETALUMA TRANSIT, BECAUSE I... WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT SERVICE, RIGHT? AND WE SHOULD BE OPERATING OUR LOCAL SERVICE. SO THAT'S, AND THAT'S THE, THE DIRECTION THAT WE'VE BEEN GOING. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL TOWARDS. SO NOTHING IN [01:00:01] HERE IS SOMETHING FAR OUT THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED. UM, BUT NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO COUNSEL TO ASK, BUT WE, WE WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT THIS IS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BECAUSE IT'S THE NUMBER ONE FIRST TIME WE'LL EVER BE ON SRJC CAMPUS. IT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'VE EVER TIMED TO THE TRAIN. IT'S THE FIRST TIME THESE THREE AGENCIES HAVE WORKED TOGETHER TO, AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. AND, AND SO IT'S A LOT OF FIRSTS, WHICH IS A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA SEE HOW IT ALL GOES, BUT THIS IS, IT'S AN EXCITING TIME. BUT TO YOUR POINT, LOTS OF QUESTIONS WE ALL HAVE. AND WE'RE HOPING WITH THIS COORDINATION, WE'LL HAVE MORE FORMULAIC WAYS OF ANSWERING. GOT IT. OKAY.
I HAD A QUESTION COME UP. SURE. PASS ME. UM, I WAS CURIOUS, I KNOW PETALUMA TRANSIT DOESN'T RUN ON THE WEEKENDS. SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT DOES RUN ON THE WEEKEND. HAVE WE LOOKED AT KIND OF WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE AS FAR AS LIKE WEEKEND COVERAGE AND WHERE FOLKS MIGHT BE LOSING THAT WHERE THEY MIGHT PREVIOUSLY HAVE HAD IT? I, I WOULD HAVE TO ASK SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT TO SEE WHAT OUTREACH THEY'VE DONE. AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IS THE TIMES. BUT I WOULD LIKE THAT, TO LOOK AT THEIR RIDERSHIP DURING THE WEEKENDS TO SEE. AND I THINK WITH ANYTHING ON THE WEEKENDS OR EVENINGS, AGAIN, WE'RE USING ACCESS AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO. SO IT'S HOW DO WE BEEF UP, BEEF UP ACCESS FOR THOSE FOLKS? SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. YEAH. I, YEAH. OH, OKAY. YOU, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I HAD A FEW THINGS COME UP. SO, UM, THERE WAS A FEW THINGS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER QUINT HAD, HAD SAID THAT MADE ME THINK ABOUT HOW WE LOOK AT OUR OWN BUS LINES AND WHAT WE HAVE OWNERSHIP OF AND WHAT WE KNOW BEST. AND CORRECT ME, ROUTE 40X FROM SONOMA TO PETALUMA, THAT OPERATES, RIGHT? THAT'S OPERATIONAL? DOES THAT OPERATE ON THE WEEKENDS? THE SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT ROUTE, THEY CAN LOOK IT UP. I, I, I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER. I DON'T BELIEVE SO. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT WHEN WE DO OUR OUTREACH, UM, IT, IT OFTEN CONCERNS ME WHEN THAT OUTREACH IS DONE IN AN ECHO CHAMBER AND WHEN WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO PROBABLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THIS, BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT IS HARDER TO GET TO THEM AND IT'S HARDER FOR THEM TO FEEL LIKE THEY CAN HAVE THAT VOICE AND THEY MAY NOT EVEN PARTICIPATE IN THIS. IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE COVERAGE THAT WON'T BE THERE ON 10 AND, AND 24, IT DOES CONCERN ME THAT THERE'S A LOT OF VOICES THAT PROBABLY DID NOT GET TO WEIGH ON THIS THING AND PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT EVEN OCCURRED.
AND TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS BE WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION, BUT THEN POTENTIALLY BE BROADENED OUT FOR THE SAKE OF COLLABORATION, I, I GET THAT POINT BECAUSE WE WANNA BE, YOU KNOW, SYNCED UP WITH THE REST OF THE COUNTY. BUT I OFTEN WONDER IF THAT MEANS WE ARE ACTUALLY TALKING TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA BENEFIT FROM THIS AND THAT ACTUALLY DO NEED THESE SERVICES. I MEAN, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE FOLKS WHO, WHO ALREADY NEED IT FOR, FOR KAISER. AND I MEAN, THAT'S ON THE WEEKDAYS, BUT IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE HEM AND HARD ABOUT A LOT OF THE TIMES TOO, ABOUT JUST WEEKEND SERVICE TO GET INTO, INTO DOWNTOWN. AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED ANYMORE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I GO BACK INTO JUST WHO IT IS AND HOW IT IS THAT WE WANT THESE SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS TO, TO BE LOOKED AT. I MEAN, 30% OF OUR POPULATION LOOKS LIKE ME. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE FOLKS ARE PROPORTIONATELY WEIGHED IN IN THIS DATA. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT IT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED. AND WE APPRECIATE IT. I ESPECIALLY APPRECIATE WITH THESE LAST 20 OUTREACH EVENTS THAT YOU ALL PARTICIPATED SO MUCH BECAUSE I THINK WITH YOUR PARTICIPATION AND THE FACT THAT YOU TOLD PEOPLE ABOUT IT REALLY HELPED US TO GET OUT MORE BECAUSE THAT'S ALL WE WERE ASKING ABOUT, RIGHT? AND ALL THESE THINGS, LIKE WHAT IS THE IMPACT? WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THIS ON, ON YOU? AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINT, WE NOW HAVE BILINGUAL, WE'RE D - WE'RE, WE'RE OUT THERE A LOT MORE THAN WE HAD BEEN IN THE PAST, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE BLANK SPOTS UNLESS WE KNOW WHERE TO GO AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO GO OUT. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS ARACELI REPORTED LAST MONTH, I THINK IT WAS A GREAT RESPONSE WHEN WE WERE ON THE BUS AND WHEN WE CAME TO WHERE THEY ARE. AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT, THAT PACING, YOU KNOW, FOR SURE, BECAUSE WE, WE LEARNED SOME GOOD LESSONS. BUT I'M EXCITED THAT WE'VE DONE MORE OUTREACH THAN WE'VE EVER DONE BEFORE ABOUT THESE ROUTES, BUT AGREE, WE NEED MORE FOLKS IN THESE ROOMS, DEFINITELY. YEAH.
UH, I'M SORRY. NO, NO, I'M GOOD. AS A FOLLOW-UP, THOSE, THOSE OUTREACH EVENTS, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THEY WERE MORE REALLY GEARED TOWARDS, UH, PETALUMA SERVICE CUTS, NOT MASCOT CHANGES. WELL, ANYTHING IN PETALUMA IS A PETALUMA CUT. SO IT, IT WAS NOT CALLED MASCOTS AT ALL. IT WAS ONLY FOCUSED ON PETALUMA, 100%. AND IT WAS FOCUSED MOSTLY ON THE [01:05:01] AUGUST CHANGES, WHICH WE WEREN'T GETTING RID OF 24 AND WE WEREN'T GETTING RID OF 10. SO WE HAD A - SORRY. IT'S OKAY. IT'S ALL RIGHT. WE HAD A, WE HAD A SURVEY THAT EVERYBODY FILLED OUT IN EACH ONE THAT SPECIFICALLY ASKED THE IMPACTS OF 1024. UM, AND WE CONTINUE TO USE THE RIDERSHIP AND WE CAN LOOK AT THAT IF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING MORE. WE MO - WENT WITH THE SUGGESTION OF MORE OUTREACH BECAUSE I THINK WHEN YOU GUYS WENT TO MAKE THE 1024 DECISION, YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS WRITING AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAD ASKED THEM OR TALKED TO THEM. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE WERE DOING AND KIND OF GOING OUT ON THE STREET. OKAY, WHAT ARE, BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE REDUCTIONS. WE KNOW MORE REDUCTIONS ARE COMING. WHAT ARE YOUR PRIORITIES? AND SO WE, WE SUMMARIZED SOME THOSE PRIORITIES LAST MONTH. AND YES, I, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S EVERYONE. THERE'S DEFINITELY ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOMEBODY, RIGHT? WE SAW THIS WITH ANY CHANGE. UM - YEAH. LET ME JUST SAY, I THINK THAT TO ME HERE TONIGHT, HEARING, UM, THIS PRESENTATION ON MASCOTS AND POTENTIAL CHANGES, UH, AS A RESULT OF COORDINATION THROUGH MASCOTS AND, UM, AND FRAMING THAT WITH A MESSAGE OF WE DID ALL OF THESE MASSIVE OUTREACH, UM, ENGAGEMENTS. WE WENT OUT TO THE PUBLIC IN ALL THESE DIFFERENT PLACES TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THIS FEELS DISINGENUOUS. I'M JUST, THAT'S MY REACTION. AND THERE IS AN OPTION. WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT PAUSING IT. I MEAN, THIS IS, UM, SO I'M HAPPY TO PAUSE. WE HAVE NOT R - DONE THE SCHEDULE, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH CONCERN.
I MEAN, AROUND 24, THERE'LL BE DECISIONS TO MAKE FINANCIALLY AND WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THOSE BROUGHT HERE. SO I, I TAKE IT TO YOU, JUST LIKE THEY HAD TO DELAY FOR US, WE CAN DO THE SAME. THE PRIORITY IS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE WHAT, WHAT WE NEED, RIGHT? THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE DO THIS. SO IF IT'S NOT WHAT WE NEED, WE WANNA BRING IT BACK WHERE IT DOES FEEL GENUINE. AND IT MIGHT BE THAT YOU NEED FINANCIALS, WHICH WE WILL HAVE IN NOVEMBER. AND IF IT DELAYS US, THEN IT DELAYS US. I DON'T THINK, I THINK TO YOUR POINT, IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO DELAY THAN TO CUT SERVICE AND, AND HAVE AN, HAVE SOME MISSING PIECE THAT WE DIDN'T SEE. WELL, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IS, W- WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS A, AGAIN, SORRY TO ASK YOU TO TAKE IT BACK AND DO ANOTHER PRESENTATION, BUT WHAT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT IT IS IF, UH, IF STAFF WERE COMING TO TECH AND SAYING, "HERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, AND HERE'S EXACTLY WHY, AND HERE'S WHAT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT IS GONNA BE." AND I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE'VE RECEIVED. OKAY. AND, YEAH. WELL, AND IT, UH, YOUR POINT THAT DELAYING TO GET THE AC - THE, THE FINANCIALS, THAT MAY BE A REALLY GREAT THING TO DO. AND THEN I HAD A QUESTION. YOU SAID THAT SONOMA SYNC IS WORKING THROUGH WHAT THE MONEY BACK AND FORTH MOUS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU, WHAT THAT IS. BUT, UM, WILL THAT BE CALCULATED AND KNOWN BEFORE THE, THE, ASSUMING WE STAYED ON TRACK WITH FEBRUARY AND THAT WE WEREN'T DELAYING ANYTHING, IS, IS THE CONCEPT OF KNOWING THE FINANCIALS OF THE INTER-AGENCY FINANCES TO BE KNOWN BEFORE THE FEBRUARY CHANGES OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE FIGURED OUT AFTER? NO, THIS IS A MULTI-YEAR STUDY, SO THEY'RE LOOKING, IT'S A BROADER STUDY, SO IT WON'T BE IMPACTING US NOW. OKAY. DOES THAT, IS THAT CONCERNING THAT WE DON'T KNOW THE INTER-AGENCY FINANCIALS BEFORE WE MAKE THESE CHANGES? WELL, WE'RE BASING IT THE SAME WAY WE DID ON THE FIRST CHANGES WE MADE.
THAT'S WHY IT'S MEANT TO BE A ZERO-SUM CHANGE SO THAT WE'RE REALLOCATING THOSE RESOURCES RATHER THAN PULLING MORE RESOURCES. SO IT WOULD JUST BE A DECISION, RIGHT? IF WE WANNA MAINTAIN 24, WE CAN DO THAT. WE'LL HAVE TO CUT SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND SO WE ASK THE QUESTIONS BASED ON RIDERSHIP, RIGHT? WE HAVE THE, WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO MAKE DATA-DRIVEN DECISIONS, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING ALL OF THAT BACK AS WELL AS ASK MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. WE'RE, WE'RE JUST SHOWING WHAT, WHAT WE'VE SEEN CONSISTENTLY, UM, WITH OUR FINANCES. DO YOU WANNA... I KNOW WE'RE GONNA - UM, YEAH, I JUST THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR ME TO DO MY PRESENTATION. I THINK IT GOES REALLY WELL WITH WHAT MAR - WHAT MARIA WAS SAYING. OKAY, BECAUSE - UM, WHAT I'LL GO OVER IS HOW WE COME TO THESE DECISIONS. SO ONE THING, ONE PIECE OF INFORMATION IS MASCOTS. THE PLANNERS WILL BRING, YOU KNOW, SUGGESTIONS TO US. I LOOK AT THEM AND I'M LIKE, "OKAY, HOW DOES THIS ACTUALLY WORK FOR OUR CITY?" I LOOK AT OUR DATA, I LOOK AT OUR FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND I LOOK AT BASICALLY WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GONNA GO OVER IN THIS PRESENTATION. AND NOT ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM MASCOTS IS SOMETHING [01:10:01] THAT WE'RE DOING IN FEBRUARY BASED ON WHAT I FEEL LIKE THE COMMUNITY NEED, OR SORRY, WHAT WE FEEL LIKE THE COMMUNITY NEEDS. IS THAT, DOES THAT HELP ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AT ALL? AND I HAD SOME FEEDBACK JUST ON THE MASCOTS THINGS, BUT I'LL HOLD IT AND LET'S, LET'S PROCEED BECAUSE IT'S, IT REALLY IS ONE BIG - YEAH. DISCUSSION. SO - YEAH, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO KIND OF BRIDGE SOME OF THE - YEAH, THANK YOU. REGIONAL TO LOCAL. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. LET ME, UM, LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN REALLY QUICK. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T KNOW. I, I, I THOUGHT, I, I THOUGH THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH THE END OF IT. I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS ANOTHER PRESENTATION. THAT'S OKAY. I'D SAID IT EARLIER, BUT THE SHE...
SO I THINK WHAT, I THINK WITH THE CONFUSION IS THERE'S A REGIONAL CONVERSATION THAT'S BROADER AND WE'RE, WE KNOW NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO HEAR THE DETAILS OF PETALUMA, RIGHT, IN THIS REGIONAL CONVERSATION. SO AS A GOOD REGIONAL PLAYER, I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT IT REGIONALLY, AND THEN WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT IT LOCALLY SO THAT I CAN SUPPORT THE REGIONAL EFFORTS. IT'S A FUN DANCE TO PLAY IN THE BIG AND THEN BE HERE. SO WE'RE BALANCING IT. SHE'LL GIVE IT TO YOU NOW. I'M GONNA INTERJECT QUICKLY. SO PENDING, YOU KNOW, TECH TONIGHT, IF THIS GOES TO COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER, BOTH THE PRESENTATION WOULD BE A COMBINED. SO IT'D BE A REGIONAL AND LOCAL EFFORT. IT WOULDN'T JUST BE A REGIONAL. YEAH. YEAH. SO, OH, OKAY. THERE WE GO. UM, SO LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT INFORMATION WHEN WE'RE MAKING THESE DECISIONS. UM, THEY'RE NOT EASY DECISIONS TO MAKE, BUT WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT BUDGET ISSUES. UM, SO WE WANNA, LIKE MARIA SAID, WE WANNA SERVE AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO DO. SO LIKE MARIA SAID, WE'RE MAKING THREE MAJOR, MAJOR CHANGES IN FEBRUARY. WE'RE GONNA ELIMINATE ROUTES 10 AND 24. WE HAVE NEW ROUTING FOR ROUTE TWO. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO MAKING SOME BACKEND CHANGES TO LUMAGO TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT. AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT, UM, LATER. SO I'VE BEEN SHARING A LOT OF DATA IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS ABOUT 10 AND 24 BECAUSE WE KNEW WE WERE LOOKING AT ELIMINATING THOSE ROUTES IF WE WEREN'T ABLE TO AFFORD THEM. UM, AND LESS THAN 10% OF OUR RIDERSHIP HAS BEEN CONSISTENTLY ON THOSE TWO ROUTES. UM, SO IT JUST SEEMED LIKE THE BEST DECISION THAT THOSE WOULD NEED TO GO, UM, BASED ON THAT AND THE RECOMMENDATION FROM MASCOTS. AND WE WANNA REALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS TO IMPROVE OTHER, UM, SERVICES THAT WE HAVE. AGAIN, WE LOOKED AT COMMUNITY, AT OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ALL THAT FEEDBACK. UM, WE SPECIFICALLY ASKED AT EVERY OUTREACH EVENT WE WENT TO, HOW WOULD REMOVING 10 AND 24 AFFECT YOU? DO YOU TAKE THAT ROUTE?
DO YOU KNOW PEOPLE THAT TAKE THAT ROUTE? WHERE DO YOU TAKE IT TO? ALL THOSE KINDS OF QUESTIONS. WE GOT MINIMAL FEEDBACK, ESPECIALLY FOR ROUTE 10. NO ONE SEEMS TO BE VOUCHING FOR IT. YEAH. THE ONE THING WE DID HEAR WAS CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, ACCESS TO KAISER. AGAIN, UH, RIDERSHIP ON ROUTE 24 IS MINIMAL, BUT PEOPLE WERE STILL CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING TO KAISER. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND I'LL TALK LATER ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE STILL ABLE TO GET TO KAISER WITH THE ELIMINATION OF ROUTE 24. UM, SO LIKE MARIA SAID... OH, SORRY. AND I DON'T KNOW IF I EXPLAINED WELL, BUT JUST FOR THE PRESENTATION SAKE, ROUTE 10 IS OUR ROUTE ON, UM, NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD AND ROUTE 24 IS SERVICE TO KAISER. YOU MEAN NORTH PETALUMA BOULEVARD? OH, YEAH. DID I, UH - YOU SAID NORTH MCDOWELL. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO GET IT RIGHT AT ALL TIMES. THANK YOU. NO, THANK YOU. UM, SO OUR SOLUTION, UM, IN COORDINATION WITH MASCOTS AND SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT AGENCY, THEY ARE GONNA CONTINUE SERVICE ROUTE 48 ON THE BOULEVARD. UM, AND WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT SCHEDULE LOOKS LIKE, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE I PROVIDE IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO ONCE I GET THAT, UM, I'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IT TO YOU GUYS. AND THEN, UM, LET'S SEE. WE ARE MAKING CHANGES, LIKE I SAID, TO ACCESS BY LUMAGO THAT WILL HELP WITH RIDE AVAILABILITY TO KAISER. AND I'LL GET INTO THAT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. UM, NEXT, EXCITING STUFF. WE'RE DOING NEW ROUTING FOR ROUTE TWO TO SERVICE THE SMART STATION AND THE JUNIOR COLLEGE. UM, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS I HEARD IN THESE OUTREACH EVENTS WAS PEOPLE WERE LIKE, "WE JUST NEED TO GET TO THE SMART STATIONS OR TRANSIT HUBS." MAINLY SMART THOUGH. EVERYONE'S LIKE, "I JUST WANNA GET TO SMART." AND I'M LIKE, "COOL, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT MAKES IT EASY FOR US. WE HAVE LIKE A REALLY BIG THEME GOING ON IF PEOPLE ARE JUST TRYING TO GET TO SMART OR TRANSIT HUBS." SO THAT WENT INTO MAKING THIS DECISION FOR NEW ROUTING.
UM, WE ALSO MET WITH SRJC TRANSIT CLUB, UH, TWICE TO KIND OF DISCUSS STUDENT, STUDENT NEEDS, UM, FOR TRANSPORTATION. [01:15:01] AND THEY SAID THE SAME THING, "JUST GET US TO SMART AND TO THE TRAIN ON TIME." SO THAT RESULTED IN US WORKING WITH MASCOTS TO COME UP WITH THIS NEW ROUTE, WHICH AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF JUST A REDRAWN ROUTE TOO. SO WE'RE GOING FROM THE, UM, EAST SIDE TRANSIT CENTER DOWN NORTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD, TURNING AT CORONA, WHICH IS WHERE THE PETALUMA NORTH STATION IS. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOPING THROUGH SANTA ROSA JUNIOR COLLEGE AND THEN LOOPING ALL THE WAY BACK. UM, SO THAT'S GONNA BE RUN MOST OF THE DAY, UH, SEVEN TO SIX. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT FREQUENCY ON THAT YET BECAUSE WE'RE STILL WAITING ON FINANCES, BUT THE BIGGEST, MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS IS THAT WE ARE CONNECTING TO THE TRAIN. WE WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S ABLE TO MAKE THOSE CONNECTIONS. UM, SO LIKE I SAID, THIS WAS RECOMMENDED BY MASCOTS. MY CONCERN WITH SEEING THIS ROUTE WAS WHAT ABOUT THIS WHOLE PART OF ROUTE TWO? THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT TAKE, THAT NEED TO GO OVER THERE, RIGHT? THERE'S, UM, WHAT'S OVER THERE? THE PETALUMA HEALTH CENTER IS OVER THERE, UM, AND THEN THERE'S CONNECTIONS TO OTHER, UH, ROUTES OVER THERE. OUR SOLUTION TO THAT WAS BASICALLY I LOOKED AT ALL OF OUR RIDERSHIP DATA BY TIME, AND I WAS LIKE, "IS THERE A CERTAIN TIME THAT PEOPLE NEED THIS ROUTE?" THERE IS. IT'S DURING OUR PEAK HOURS, WHICH IS SEVEN TO, SEVEN TO 10 AND THREE TO SIX. IS THAT... OKAY. I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN, SORRY. UM, BUT THAT, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. UM, SO WE WILL BE RUNNING AN EXTRA BUS TO DO OUR REGULAR ROUTE TO DURING THOSE TIMES TO MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE GET THOSE RIDES. SO OTHER, SO IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY, NO BUS WILL RUN OUT THERE, BUT IN THE MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOON, BUSES WILL RUN OUT THERE? YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. UM, MY DATA SHOWED THAT THAT WAS LIKE THE MAIN TIME PEOPLE, UH, THEY WERE USING THAT ROUTE. UM, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE STILL ABLE TO GET TO THOSE PLACES. UM, LET'S SEE.
I ALREADY WENT OVER MOST OF THIS. I'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SO THE LAST THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS CHANGES TO ACCESS BY LUMAGO. UM, WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY WAS, "WE LOVE LUMAGO, BUT IT'S NOT RELIABLE. WE CAN'T ALWAYS GET A RIDE. LIKE, HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO USE THIS SERVICE IF WE DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET A RIDE?" SO I'M LIKE, "OKAY, HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS SERVICE MORE RELIABLE, UM, MORE EFFICIENT FOR THE COMMUNITY?" I PULLED THIS, THIS LITTLE GRAPHIC, THIS MAP TO SHOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE REQUESTING TO BE PICKED UP AND DROPPED OFF. SO ALL THESE DOTS ON THE SCREEN, THE BIGGER THE DOT, THE MORE PEOPLE ARE REQUESTING TO BE PICKED UP OR DROPPED OFF. IF YOU NOTICE, IT'S ALL ON ROUTE 11, PRETTY MUCH, MAYBE LIKE 80% OF THE TRIPS. SO MY GOAL IS TO GET PEOPLE OFF OF LUMAGO AND ONTO ROUTE 11 OR ANY OF OUR OTHER FIXED ROUTES. SO WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS IMPLEMENT MODE PREFERENCE, WHICH WE MIGHT'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IN PREVIOUS, UM, MICROTRANSIT DISCUSSIONS. MODE PREFERENCE IS BASICALLY YOU'RE GONNA GO ON THE APP, YOU'RE GONNA REQUEST, REQUEST A RIDE. IF THE APP THINKS THAT RIDE CAN BE BETTER SERVED BY FIXED ROUTE, IT WILL NOT GIVE YOU, UM, A MICROTRANSIT RIDE. IT'S GONNA TELL YOU, IT'S GONNA GIVE YOU OUR FIXED ROUTE, UM, OPTION, AND IT'S GONNA TELL YOU TO GET ON A FIXED ROUTE BUS. SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT I'M SEEING IN THE LUMAGO DATA OR THE ACCESS BY LUMAGO DATA IS WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MEET THE RIDE DEMAND, RIGHT? WE USED TO BE ABLE TO MEET IT, BUT AS IT BE - AS, AS IT'S BECOME MORE POPULAR, UM, MORE PEOPLE WANT RIDES AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BUSES TO DO THAT. NOW I'M GONNA START GETTING PEOPLE ON FIXED ROUTE, WHICH IS BENEFICIAL IN MULTIPLE WAYS, RIGHT? UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE AN INCREASE IN FIXED ROUTE RIDERSHIP AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO SERVE MORE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY CANNOT USE FIXED ROUTE FOR A CERTAIN TRIP. THEY WILL, UM, HOPEFULLY BE GETTING RIDES BY ACCESS.
UM, AND THEN I ALSO, WE'RE ALSO GONNA IMPLEMENT PRE-BOOKING, AND THIS WILL BE AN OPTION FOR KAISER AND PETALUMA HEALTH CENTER APPOINTMENTS. IF YOU HAVE AN APPOINTMENT AT KAISER, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO PRE-BOOK IN THE APP, WHICH MEANS, UH, THE DAY BEFORE OR A WEEK BEFORE YOUR APPOINTMENT, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GO ON THE APP AND GET A GUARANTEED RIDE TO THAT APPOINTMENT INSTEAD OF WHAT IT IS NOW, WHICH IS ON DEMAND SERVICE, UM, WHICH IS LIKE PART OF THE PROBLEM WHERE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET THOSE RIDES. UM, OH, AND THAT'S JUST AN OVERALL MAP OF KIND OF WHAT OUR NEW SERVICE MAP IS GONNA LOOK LIKE, INCLUDING [01:20:01] THE SMART LINE AND, UM, THE SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT LINE ON THE BOULEVARD. UM, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE CHANGES? WELL, I'M GONNA GO FIRST SINCE GOING LAST, I CUT MYSELF OUT THE LAST TIME. UM, AND I'M JUST GONNA START WITH A GENERAL COMMENT ABOUT RIDERSHIP, WHICH IS TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, YOU GOTTA GO WITH THAT. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE, UM, FACT THAT THE LESS FREQUENTLY AND SO THEREFORE THE LESS CONVENIENT THE BUS, THE FEWER PEOPLE ARE GONNA EVEN BOTHER. AND I'LL BRING MY FAVORITE EXAMPLE. THE DATA SHOWS THAT NOBODY WANTS TO GO TO SAN FRANCISCO IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY. WELL, AN HOUR AND A HALF TRIP BEFORE MASCOTS IS NOW A TWO HOUR TRIP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY BECAUSE I HAVE A HALF HOUR WAIT AT, UH, SAN RAFAEL TRANSIT. THAT'S HUGE. THAT'S A HUGE 25% LONGER BUS RIDE. AND I'VE STARTED, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, "WHOA, WHAT FUN THING COULD I DO FOR TWO HOURS IN SAN FRANCISCO SO I DON'T HAVE TO STAND IN A BORING WAY ON A PLATFORM?" SO THE DATA PEOPLE, FOR ALL THE PEOPLE LIKE ME, ARE GONNA SAY, "SEE, NOBODY WANTS TO GO TO SAN FRANCISCO IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY BECAUSE WE WON'T TAKE, WE DON'T TAKE THE SERVICE BECAUSE IT'S JUST, LET'S DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT." SO WITH THE SERVICE ON 24 BEING, YOU KNOW, MUCH LONGER TIMES BETWEEN BUSES, UM, THAN THE OTHERS, YOU'RE GONNA GET THAT SORT OF ARTIFACT.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND THE MORE WE CUT SERVICE, THE FEWER PEOPLE WILL TAKE IT. SO IT'S NOT PERFECT. I, I DON'T THINK RIDERSHIP IS PERFECT. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT. UM, WE DO KINDA KEEP TRACK WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE DATA OF WHO ARE WE LEAVING BEHIND, AND I DO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS. UM, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WE ARE DOING OUTREACH, UM, WHICH MARIA HAS AND ARACELI HAVE BEEN SO GOOD AT FACILITATING. UM, THAT'S BEEN A BIG REASON WE'RE CUTTING 10 AND 24. WE REALLY ASKED THEM, IT'S IN OUR WHOLE LITTLE, LIKE, HANDOUT, "ARE YOU USING IT? PLEASE TELL US. GIVE US A REASON NOT TO GET RID OF IT." AND WE WERE NOT GETTING ANSWERS FROM PEOPLE. SO WE'RE KINDA LOOKING AT MULTIPLE THINGS, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE, IT SEEMS LIKE SOMEONE WHO DOES GET LEFT BEHIND AND WE, WE ARE VERY AWARE OF THAT. AND I'VE BEEN SITTING ON THIS COMMITTEE, I THINK, FOR FOUR YEARS, UM, ABOUT, AND I'VE HEARD AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN THE PLEA TO IMPROVE THE SERVICE ON ROUTE 24, AND THAT THAT'S A WHOLE COMMUNITY THAT'S BEING LEFT BEHIND. AND I, I DON'T THINK IT'S INTENTIONAL BY ANY MEANS, AND I THINK IT'S A COMMUNITY THAT MAY BE HARD TO, TO REACH. WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO REACH THEM, BUT I THINK IT'S WHAT BOTH OF YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT WE'RE DOING A LOT OF WORK TO OUTREACH, BUT WE MAY NOT HAVE THE VOICES AT THE TABLE THAT WE NEED. AND I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER AND IT'S, IT'S JUST A, A CONCERN. BUT, UH, SO THAT, I DON'T WANNA LEAVE THAT ALONE AND ERIC'S GONNA SPEAK TO THAT. UM, BUT THEN I ALSO WANNA SAY THAT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SAYING THAT THE MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS WILL ALLOW, UM, MAKING A, YOU KNOW, AN APPOINTMENT, BUT YOU COULD NOT MAKE IT ON THE SAME DAY, YOU COULDN'T GET UP IN THE MORNING AND YOUR DOCTOR SAYS, "I CAN SEE YOU," AND YOU COULD NOT MAKE AN APPOINTMENT THE SAME DAY? I DO NOT HAVE THE DETAILS ON HOW WE'RE GONNA DO IT EXACTLY. OKAY. UM, BUT I DO WANNA COME BACK WITH MORE DETAIL. YES. YES? YES. OKAY. YOU COULD OKAY. IT'S JUST YOU SAID - ONLY IF IT WAS AVAILABLE THOUGH.
SO THERE MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE. AVAILABLE. BUT YES, YOU WOULD STILL HAVE THE OPTION TO PRE-BOOK ON THE DAY. IF THERE WILL BE PRIORITIZATION FOR DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS AT KAISER. THANK YOU. UM, AND THAT, BECAUSE WE DON'T DESERVE TO BE A TRANSIT AGENCY IF WE CAN'T GET PEOPLE ON TRANSIT TO THE MEDICAL CENTERS. AND I JUST WANNA MAKE A DISTINCTION. SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE GIVING THEM IS SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT PARATRANSIT FOLKS HAVE. RIGHT. RIGHT? BUT WE'RE, I WANNA, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU'RE, WE'RE, IT'S ALREADY H- HEADING THAT WAY, BUT THESE ARE NOT PARATRANSIT CLIENTS. CORRECT. SO THEY WILL ONLY GET, RIGHT? WE CAN'T GIVE THEM DOOR TO DOOR EVERYWHERE, BUT IT WILL ONLY BE TO KAISER AND THE HEALTH CENTER SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THOSE RESOURCES GO TO THOSE WHO MOST NEED A TRIP. I, I, I UNDERSTOOD THAT, BUT THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT BECAUSE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION. I AM SO DISAPPOINTED AND SAD FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON SOUTH [01:25:01] PETALUMA BOULEVARD, BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THAT ONE OUTREACH FOR THE SENIOR HOUSING, AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE EVEN FURTHER SOUTH OF THEM. AND THAT WITH THE LOSS OF THE 101, THEY HAD A BU - IT WASN'T GREAT SERVICE, BUT IT WAS HOURLY TO GET THEM TO DOWNTOWN SO THEY COULD GET THEIR GROCERIES OR WHATEVER, AND THEN TO HANG OUT UNTIL THE HOURLY BUS GOING SOUTH COULD TAKE THEM HOME AGAIN. AND I DON'T SEE ANY CONSIDERATION FOR THAT. WHAT WE HAD, UM, AND IT ISN'T WORKED IN, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IS WITH ACCESS TO THE END OF THE YEAR, IS THAT REALLY CHANGING THAT, BECAUSE OUR CONCERN IS THAT BUS STOP HAD BECOME LIKE A SMOKING SPOT TOO BECAUSE THERE'S NO BUS THAT ACTUALLY SERVICES IT, WHICH I THINK ADDED INSULT - EXCEPT FOR THE 172. RIGHT. 172 INSULT INJURY OF MAKING THAT MORE OF LIKE AN ACCESS FOCUSED SO THAT THEY'RE FULLY AWARE THAT THEY COULDN'T REQUEST ACCESS IF THEY WANTED TO RIGHT FROM THAT SPOT BECAUSE THEY CAN. OKAY. OKAY.
I MEAN, THEY, THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO. YEAH. THEY'RE NOT USING IT, BUT THEY DO HAVE THAT OPTION. YES. SO- SOME PROMOTION THERE WOULD BE GOOD. YEAH. AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN MIND. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, AND JUST TO GO BACK TO THIS MAP, LIKE, A REALLY BIG THING I WANNA FOCUS ON IS LIKE, I'M TRYING TO GET ALL THESE BIG BLUE DOTS OFF OF THE ROUTE 11. I WANT PEOPLE ON THE FIXED ROUTE BUS. AND I THINK PART OF, YOU KNOW, UM, HELPING OUT WITH THESE ROUTES THAT WE'RE TAKING AWAY IS DOING THAT SO PEOPLE FURTHER OUT IN THE CITY THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO FIXED ROUTE WILL HAVE MORE ACCESS TO, UM, LUMAGO. YEAH. RIGHT? BECAUSE A- AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST HEAR A LOT IS I TRIED LUMAGO AND IT'S NOT RELIABLE. SO THAT'S A GREAT GOAL. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO ERIC? SO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK DIFFERS IN THE OUTREACH THAT WE DID FOR, FOR WHAT WOULD BE REMOVED AND HOW YOU'D BE AFFECTED VERSUS THE OUTREACH THAT WAS DONE FOR LUMAGO IS WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONTINUE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE LUMAGO OFFER? AND SO MUCH OF THE FRAMING OF WHAT WAS GONNA BE DONE WITH ALL OF THE CUTS THAT WE SAW JUST RECENTLY WAS HOW IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT YOU RIGHT NOW? AND WHAT GAIL WAS SAYING WAS, OF COURSE, SOME OF THAT DATA IS GONNA BE INTERPRETED IN A WAY WITH PEOPLE WHO, ONE, ALREADY ARE USING ROUTES, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO ALSO NOT CATCH PEOPLE WHO, I DON'T WANNA NECESSARILY SAY THEY'RE ADAPTING BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE HARDER ON THEM, BUT THEY'RE HAVING TO ADAPT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. AND IN MANY WAYS, THAT IS DISINGENUOUS TO ALSO ASSUME THAT THIS IS HOW IT'S GONNA GO FORWARD. BUT IT'S ALSO GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND IF WE'RE NOT GIVING THE OPTION OF WHAT CAN WE DO MORE? WE MAY NOT HAVE THE FINANCES TO DO MORE, BUT TO DO MORE. AND HOW CAN WE SPIN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, LOOK, THIS IS HOW WE'RE GONNA BE AFFECTED NOW, BUT WHAT MORE ARE YOU ALSO SEEING? AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN STRESSING WHEN IT COMES TO THE POTENTIAL OF SERVICE ON A LINE THAT HAS NEVER EXISTED ON WEEKENDS.
HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE POPULATIONS THAT MAY BE WANTING TO USE THIS IF THAT'S NOT HOW WE'RE ALSO FOCUSING OUR SURVEYS? I THINK YOU HIT IT. IT'S HARD TO A- ASK PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT WHEN WE HAVE NO MONEY TO GIVE IT TO THEM. I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY HARD BECAUSE WE DO GO INTO A LOT OF COMMUNITIES OF CONCERN AND YOU WERE THERE. IT SUCKS TO LISTEN. I WOULD'VE LOVED TO BRING PETALUMA BOULEVARD SOUTH, BUT RIGHT NOW, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL BEEN FACING THIS DEFICIT, WHICH WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE CUT'S MADE ENOUGH OF A DENT. AND SO REALLY TO GO OUT AND BE AS HONEST AS POSSIBLE WITH FOLKS, BUT I AGREE, LIKE, I THINK IT IS A TRICKY TIME. IT IS REALLY TRICKY. AND SO IT'S LOOKING AT WHERE CAN WE GET THE MOST PEOPLE WHAT THEY NEED TO GO? AND THAT UNFORTUNATELY IS WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE IN A BUDGETARY CRISIS. WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW DO WE MOVE THE MOST PEOPLE, BUT WE ARE HAPPY TO BRING WHATEVER YOU NEED AND WE WANT SUGGESTIONS. THAT'S, AGAIN, WHY THIS, WE APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. OR IF YOU WANT DELAYS OR IF YOU THINK THAT THERE'S SOMETHING WITH 24 THAT'S MORE, THAT'S WHAT THIS MEETING IS ABOUT. I MEAN, IT REALLY IS. YEAH. AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S, IT, IT IS A LOT WRAPPED IN WITH THE FINANCIALS, BUT ANY IDEAS OF WHAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO AND LOOK FORWARD TO, IT SHOULDN'T FALL ON DEATH EARS. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YEAH, MAY NOT BE DONE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD STRIVE FOR. AND JUST LOOKING AT WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, I LOOK AT THAT LAKEVILLE HIGHWAY AND CAULFIELD AS MAIN ARTERIES, AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU WANNA GET FOLKS THAT ARE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CITY INTO THE WEST SIDE AND GET THEM OUT OF THEIR CARS, YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST OFFER THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW THAT WE MAY NOT BE THERE NOW, BUT WE [01:30:01] WANT TO GET THERE SOMEDAY. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THAT. LESLIE?
I JUST WANTED TO ASK, I KNOW IN THE PAST WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, DIFFERENT BUSINESSES OR ORGANIZATIONS THAT, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, SEE A LOT OF RIDERS AND SEEING IF THEY CAN MAYBE SPONSOR A PART OF THE ROUTE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH MAYBE KAISER OR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK WITH THE SRGC, BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW THE CONVERSATIONS WITH KAISER WERE GOING. WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN IN ROADS WITH ANYONE OTHER THAN SRJC IN WANTING TO PARTNER WITH US. SO WE WILL CONTINUE AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO TRY OUR BEST. BUT EVEN THE SRGC, UM, CONTRIBUTION IS SMALL IN THE, THE BUCKET OF WHAT IT IS, BUT WE CONTINUE TO ASK. AND I THINK SRJC IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF IT WASN'T JUST THE MONEY, RIGHT? THEY, THEY PROVIDED ALSO THE NEEDS. THEY DID THE OUTREACH WITH US THAT WE... SO I THINK SRJC SHOWS THAT WHEN AN AGENCY OR ORGANIZATION STEPS UP AND WORKS WITH US, WE'RE GONNA BE ON SITE THERE REALLY EXCITED TO, THEY'RE EXCITED TO HAVE US ON CAMPUS. I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE REALLY FUN. AND SO WE, WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT EXCITEMENT WITH SOME OF THE OTHER GROUPS, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO BRING IT TO THEM AS MUCH AS WE CAN. THANK YOU. FRANK? UH, MY ONLY LAST THING IS, UH, LAST COMMENT IS THE, UM, BY THE WAY, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. IT HELPED, UH, CLEAR UP A COUPLE OF THINGS. UM, THE, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S PART OF THE STAFF UPDATE. AND AS YOU POINTED OUT, AS YOU INTRODUCED THE STAFF UPDATE, THE PUBLIC DOESN'T GET A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS. AND SO I REALLY, NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE NEED TO DO IT OVER, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT WE AVOID PUTTING PRESENTATIONS LIKE THIS IN THE STAFF UPDATE BECAUSE WHILE WE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GET A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE, I THINK IT'S STILL, UM, WORTHWHILE TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON IT AS A PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, FRANK.
I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK AT, AT MY NEXT MEETING WITH, WITH MARIA ABOUT THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING TO SAY WE NEED TO MOVE THIS STUFF UP TO THE SECTION THAT ALLOWS FOR GENERAL COMMENT AND FOR DISCUSSION AMONG US, WHICH I'M ALLOWING ANYWAY. BUT UM, YEAH. AND AS IT'S WONDERFUL TO BE GOING TO THE JUNIOR COLLEGE AND YOUTH NEEDS TO BE SERVED AND EDUCATION NEEDS TO BE SUPPORTED, BUT $25,000 IS NOTHING, YOU KNOW, NOT REALLY, BUT I COULD GIVE YOU $25,000 IF IT CAME TO IT, RIGHT? WE'RE READY FOR YOU TO GO. I KNOW YOU ARE. UM, BUT I, IT'S LIKE, IT DOESN'T FEEL GOOD. IT DOESN'T FEEL GOOD TO BE SERVING THE JUNIOR COLLEGE AND CUTTING THE, THE E - THE LAKEVILLE CORRIDOR. AND I DON'T WANNA COMBINE THOSE BECAUSE WE GOT A GRANT SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS SRJC BEYOND THE 25,000. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME TO US AND MIMI CAN SPEAK TO IT. SO THERE WAS A FUNDING MECHANISM FOR THIS. OPERATIONS? YOU WANNA - YEAH. YES. WE RECEIVED A OPERATIONS GRANT FOR TWO YEARS, 160 TOTAL. SO ABOUT 80,000 PER YEAR ON TOP OF THE PETALUMA 25K PER YEAR. AND THAT WILL COVER IT? RIGHT. BETWEEN THE TWO, YES. AND IT'S SPECIFIC, AND IT'S, CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFIC - IT'S ALSO SPECIFIC TO CONNECTING TO THIS. IT'S, IT'S A SMART CONNECTOR, SMART NORTH CONNECTOR GRANT. YEAH. OKAY. WELL, GREAT. OF COURSE. AND YOU, TO, TO THE THING THAT FRANK IS CONTINUALLY BRINGING UP THAT WE LIVE WITH IS WHAT DO WE DO IN TWO YEARS? GET, GET YOUR EDUCATION NOW. OKAY. SO I'M GLAD, I'M GLAD THAT WE'VE GOT SOMETHING FUNDING THAT. AND I'M SORRY IF I MISSED THAT. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? UM, I THINK MOVING FORWARD, UM, WE'VE ALREADY GONE... WELL, I SHOULD ASK CARLY BECAUSE THIS IS HER SECTION. ARE, DID YOU COVER EVERYTHING? OKAY, PERFECT. UM, WE DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE ON THE VISION PLAN, THOUGH I PUT INFORMATION IN THERE. UM, IT'S STILL WAITING WITH CALTRANS, SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. AND AGAIN, THAT IS A LOT.
ALL THESE QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, ALL OF THESE THINGS YOU WISH WE WOULD'VE ASKED OR DONE, THAT'S AGAIN, VISION ALLOWS US TO HAVE CONSULTANTS OF OUR OWN FOCUSED ON THAT AND ON THE WHOLE TEAM. SO I'M EXCITED FOR YOU, UM, ALL TO BE PART OF THAT PROCESS. UM, AS WE TALKED ABOUT BUDGETS AND GRANTS, UM, MIMI WILL BE GIVING US AN UPDATE IN NOVEMBER. SO IN NOVEMBER, WE ANTICIPATE HAVING BOTH MARKETING GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON LUMAGO AND HOW THAT, THAT WRAP UP. AND THEN OF COURSE, FINANCIALS [01:35:01] AS WELL IN NOVEMBER. BUT AS WE ARE MOVING INTO, UM, THE UPCOM - I'M GONNA MOVE TO UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS, UM, I TALKED ABOUT HERE TO BETTER SUPPORT LONG-RANGE PLANNING, STAFF IS DEVELOPING AN ANNUAL TRANSIT ADVISORY COMMITTEE WORK PLAN. SO WE REALLY WANNA WORK AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT DO WE KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE NEXT YEAR? WHAT IS IT YOU WANNA SEE? SO THAT AGAIN, DIRECTING KIND OF WHAT'S MOVING FORWARD, RIGHT? UM, SO A FEW THINGS THAT WE HAVE PUT DOWN HERE OF POTENTIAL TOPICS. UM, PETALUMA CITY SCHOOL'S COORDINATION ON STUDENT TRANSPORTATION. UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THAT'S, THAT FUNDING IS GOING AWAY. UM, AND SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? IT ENDS IN THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, AND THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS AS WELL, UM, WITH OUR OTHER FINANCIAL SHORTFALLS OF HOW DO WE ADDRESS THESE SCHOOL TRIPPERS. SO I WOULD LOVE TO BRING THAT TO YOU ON THE SOONER SIDE, THOUGH I DON'T HAVE A SUGGESTION. IT'S JUST MORE GIVING YOU ALL THE INFORMATION SO THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, WE CAN HAVE YOU PART OF THIS PROCESS WITH US. UM, PETALUMA TRANSIT WEBSITE, UM, WE'LL BE LAUNCHING A NEW WEBSITE SHORTLY. IT'S ALSO WITH KIND OF THE COORDINATED EFFORT WITH SCTCA. IT IS OUR 50TH BIRTHDAY, BUT IT'S O - ENDING SOON. SO I, I, YOU KNOW, I, THIS IS NOT HIGH ON THE PRIORITY LIST, TO BE HONEST. UM, BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING I, AND I'M LOOKING AT YOU, LESLIE, NOT THAT YOU'VE, DON'T, PLEASE DON'T DO IT.
BUT, UM, BUT BECAUSE IT, THE SAME THING WHEN WE CAME TO TAC BEFORE AND SAID, "HEY, WE NEED TO DO ALL THIS OUTREACH. HELP US, HELP US." YOU KNOW, IT, IT, AND WE'VE BEEN REALLY CLEAR WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, WE NEED YOUR PARTNERSHIP IF YOU WANT. AND I THINK WITH URBAN CHAT, THAT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT GROUPING BECAUSE THAT WE COULD HAVE NEVER DONE, I MEAN, ALL THESE OUTREACH EVENTS, THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD HAVE DONE THE SCAVENGER HUNT, THE, YOU KNOW, THE RIDE AND READ, THE RIDE ALONGS, UH, FAMILY RESOURCE CENTER, URBAN CHAT, THEN ALL THE PEP HOUSING, AND THEN ALL THE SCHOOL ORIENTATIONS. WE JUST COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT YOUR HELP. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT WAS A PHENOMENAL EVENT. AND SO TO THAT POINT, NOT THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THINGS, BUT THERE ARE LIKE LOTS OF FUN I- ITEMS. SO I PUT THESE ON AS WELL AS OPPORTUNITIES FOR TAC TO PARTICIPATE WHERE WE KNOW WE CAN'T BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO DO IT. UM, ACCESS LUMIGO MULTIMODAL OPTIONS. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT TODAY, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE WE WANNA BRING BACK SO THAT YOU'RE AWARE WHAT THEY'RE SEEING AND KIND OF THE WAY IT'S BEING PUSHED. UM, LUMIGO PILOT SURVEY, WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IN NOVEMBER. AND THEN I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT ELSE WE HAD. I MEAN, I GUESS WITH THIS 24, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANT, I, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANNA, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AS WELL. UM, TRYING TO THINK WHEN'S THE NEXT HACK THAT... SO YEAH, I'LL BRING THAT TO YOU IF THERE'S THINGS YOU SPECIFICALLY WANNA TALK ABOUT IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, ET CETERA, THIS IS, LET US KNOW. I, I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT 24. I MEAN, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE THE FISCAL YEAR NUMBERS IN NOVEMBER THAT GIVES US A CONTEXT. AND I, ACTUALLY, I DO REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, THE V - THE UNHEARD VOICES. I DISTINCTLY REMEMBER NOT THAT LONG AGO WE HAD SOMEONE GIVING COMMUNITY F- FEEDBACK SPEAKING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO, WHO RIDE THE, UH, THE 24 TO COTS AND BACK AGAIN, AND THAT IT SHOULD BE MORE AND NOT LESS.
SO, AND THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE UNHEARD VOICES. YEAH. ONE THING I'D BE INTERESTED IN IS UNDERSTANDING WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, MASCOTS TOO COMING UP IS HOW MANY RIDERS TODAY ARE, ARE ORIGINATING ON A PETALUMA TRANSIT AND ENDING ON A DIFFERENT SERVICE? OR IF THEY'RE ORIGINATING ON A DIFFERENT SERVICE AND ENDING ON A, YOU KNOW, MAKING A TRANSFER FROM ONE TO ANOTHER, RIGHT? AND THAT, THAT WAS DATA THAT WAS LOOKED AT WITH MASCOT'S... I DON'T WANNA CALL IT 1.0, BUT WHATEVER. YEAH, THEY ORIG - UH, UH, CARLY'S GIVING ME A NO BECAUSE WE FARE FREE, SO WE CAN'T EVEN, WE DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T DO TRANSFERS WHERE THOSE OTHER SERVICES, THEY USE CLIPPER OR TRANSFERS, SO THEY DO MONITOR TRANSFERS. UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATA. YEAH. LIKE, IF IT'S JUST A MATTER OF... SO IF IT'S, IF IT'S A MATTER OF DUPLICATING, UH, OF REDUCING REDUNDANT SERVICE, THAT'S A NO-BRAINER. IF IT'S A MATTER OF ALIGNING SCHEDULES TO, TO GET PEOPLE TO AND FROM SMART, THAT MAKES COMPLETE SENSE. IF WE'RE MAKING OTHER CHANGES TO ALIGN SCHEDULES WITH OTHER, YOU KNOW, WITH SONOMA TRANSIT, THAT MAY MAKE SENSE ON THE SURFACE. BUT IF IT ADDS COST AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYONE CHANGING - I SEE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. YEAH. RIGHT. IN TERMS OF TRANSFERS FROM THE 44, THE NEW 44, IT'LL BE TRICKY. SO WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING NOW IS RIGHT NOW, 44 AND 48, THERE, WE DON'T HAVE DATA TO HOW THEY TRANSFER WITH PETALUMA. [01:40:01] WE'LL GET DIFFERENT DATA ONCE THEY, WE DO THIS CHANGE, BUT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE PEOPLE TRANSFERRING. WE ANTICIPATE THEM USING OUR SERVICE FOR LOCAL. UM, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE... WHEN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ADJUSTING THE SCHEDULE, IT'S GONNA BE MORE FOR SMART. WE DON'T... I, WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED A TRUE TRANSFER BETWEEN SONOMA COUNTY AND US. WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING NOT TO MAKE TRANSFERS BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, MOST PEOPLE DON'T WANNA TRANSFER EITHER. UM, SO LOOKING AT THAT LOCAL SERVICE IS ONE SEAT RIDES A WAYS TO SMART. THAT'S THE GOAL. YEAH. UM, AND THAT IS THE GOAL. SO YEAH.
THE LAST QUESTION I HAD WAS ABOUT, UM, UPCOMING COUNCIL ITEMS. BUT OTHER THAN THAT... SO YOU HAVE COME - OR NOT, SORRY. NOT UPCOMING COUNCIL ITEMS. UM, UPCOMING TECH ITEMS. IF YOU WANT OTHER TECH PRESENTATIONS. ACTUALLY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MAYBE A FUTURE MEETING. SURE. IS, UM, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT SIGNAL PRIORITY AND, UM, AND RIGHT NOW IT'S SET TO ONLY IF WE'RE RUNNING LATE AND WE WERE GONNA LOOK INTO WHETHER IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE THAT ALL THE TIME. IS THERE, UH, ANY, JUST ON, YOU KNOW, FOR A FUTURE MEETING, MAYBE IF THERE'S ANY UPDATE ON THAT. FOR SURE. SO THAT'S THE END OF STAFF COMMENT? YES. FOR... OKAY. AND IS... NO MORE COMMENT? ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 6:41 PM. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.