Tree Advisory Committee
Tree Advisory Committee
mié, 21 de octubre de 2026
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RESUMEN DE REUNIÓNGenerado por IA
Tree Advisory Committee — 21 de octubre de 2026
Esta fue una reunión ordinaria del Tree Advisory Committee de Petaluma, destacada por la toma de posesión del nuevo miembro Brian Fishman a cargo de la Secretaria Municipal Kaitlyn Corley. Dos miembros estuvieron ausentes: Gentilly y Shilt. La reunión se levantó a las 4:54 PM.
Toma de posesión — Brian Fishman
El nuevo miembro del comité Brian Fishman prestó juramento formalmente al inicio de la reunión.
Presentación: Selección de especies arbóreas para el Caulfield Lane Paving Project
El Gerente de Proyectos de Obras Públicas Bjorn Grinberg regresó por segunda vez para solicitar al comité recomendaciones de especies para las plantaciones de árboles a lo largo de Caulfield Lane entre Payran y Garfield Streets. El proyecto de pavimentación —programado para construcción entre la primavera y el otoño de 2027— reducirá la calzada de dos carriles en cada dirección a uno, añadirá glorietas en St. Francis Drive y Eli Boulevard South, mejorará la iluminación y creará franjas ajardinadas de aproximadamente seis pies de ancho a ambos lados de la vía entre St. Francis Drive y South McDowell Boulevard. Estas franjas están diseñadas actualmente como bioswales (franjas de biofiltración), condicionadas a la financiación de Caltrans vinculada a la mitigación de aguas pluviales para el proyecto de ampliación de Marin-Sonoma Narrows. Si dicha financiación no se concreta, el diseño revertiría a una plantación tradicional de árboles en mediana elevada.
Grinberg solicitó al comité dos conjuntos de recomendaciones: árboles adecuados para condiciones de bioswale/humedad elevada, y candidatos alternativos para un escenario más seco con plantación tradicional en calle. También compartió un plan conceptual preliminar de plantación y una lista de árboles elaborada por la City of Santa Rosa para zonas de diseño de bajo impacto.
Aspectos destacados del debate del comité:
El comité sostuvo un amplio debate sobre especies, valores y procedimientos. Los puntos principales planteados fueron:
Para condiciones de bioswale, los miembros sugirieron fresno de Oregón, sauces, arce de vid y posiblemente álamo de Virginia como candidatos tolerantes a la humedad, aunque se expresaron dudas sobre la fragilidad estructural del álamo de Virginia en una vía pública.
Para condiciones generales de árbol de calle, los miembros recomendaron arce rojo, arce tridente, magnolia (con la advertencia de que las magnolias no toleran el encharcamiento) y roble costero. Los robles del valle fueron generalmente desaconsejados por restricciones de tamaño y sobrerepresentación en el bosque urbano de Petaluma, así como por su susceptibilidad al escarabajo Million Oak Borer (MOB), aunque se señaló que el MOB aún no ha afectado significativamente a los robles costeros.
El sicomoro occidental y el roble de isla fueron mencionados como sólidas recomendaciones externas que Grinberg había recibido de otros contactos, aunque los miembros del comité señalaron las bolas de semillas "rompepiernas" del sicomoro y los sistemas radiculares que pueden dañar el pavimento.
El Arbutus fue propuesto como posible opción de árbol perenne para alternar con arces caducifolios y proporcionar cobertura vegetal durante todo el año.
Los miembros sugirieron emplear un patrón repetitivo de dos o tres especies en lugar de una plantación única y uniforme o una mezcla aleatoria, equilibrando la uniformidad estética con la diversidad ecológica.
El miembro Eric Fishman (nuevo) sugirió que un arborista consultor certificado por la ISA podría proporcionar recomendaciones más precisas, especialmente dado el desconocimiento del volumen de suelo y la duración de la saturación. El personal señaló que la ciudad cuenta con arboristas certificados por la ISA en plantilla, y la Superintendente Jen Santos confirmó que posee formación en arquitectura del paisaje para contribuir en este aspecto.
Varios miembros abogaron por especies nativas siempre que sea viable, citando la coevolución con insectos, aves y fauna locales. Un miembro argumentó en sentido contrario que los árboles tolerantes a la sequía del suroeste americano (recomendados por investigaciones de UC Davis) merecen consideración dada la incertidumbre climática. Ambos puntos de vista fueron reconocidos, con acuerdo general en que las especies nativas deben ser preferidas, pero no requeridas de forma exclusiva.
El comité debatió el plan de gestión del bosque urbano (UFMP) como documento orientador infrautilizado, y alentó al personal a referenciarlo explícitamente al tomar decisiones sobre proyectos.
Los miembros también plantearon preocupaciones sobre seguridad contra incendios en relación con la cobertura vegetal de manzanita, que podría crear combustibles escalonados bajo las copas de los árboles.
Grinberg indicó que el proyecto se encuentra a aproximadamente dos meses de salir a licitación y acordó enviar una actualización por correo electrónico a través de Jen Santos en lugar de regresar para una tercera reunión. No se realizó ninguna votación formal ni se emitió ninguna recomendación vinculante; el debate sirvió como aportación consultiva al personal y a la consultora de diseño (la empresa de ingeniería Mark Thomas).
No se realizó votación (debate consultivo únicamente).
Comentarios generales del público
Una miembro del público, Nina Sto— (nombre parcialmente ininteligible en la transcripción), habló sobre el impacto emocional y fisiológico en los residentes cuando se retiran o podan drásticamente los árboles de las calles. Citó el proceso de permisos de la City of Novato, que incluye un período de comentarios públicos de 10 días antes de proceder a la retirada de árboles o a podas significativas, y sugirió que Petaluma considere un mecanismo similar de notificación a los vecinos. Jen Santos respondió que el equipo de planificación de la ciudad está desarrollando actualmente procedimientos para implementar la Tree Preservation Ordinance recientemente adoptada (ahora parte del código de zonificación), y que esta cuestión de notificación se presentará nuevamente al comité en una fecha futura.
Aprobación de actas — 16 de septiembre de 2026
No se plantearon correcciones ni cambios. Las actas fueron aprobadas.
Votación: Aprobadas sin objeciones.
Revisión de los subcomités ad hoc existentes
Jen Santos abrió este punto recordando al comité que los subcomités ad hoc son herramientas —no requisitos— destinadas a un trabajo específico y de duración limitada sobre objetivos concretos. Señaló que el comité ya ha alcanzado hitos significativos, entre ellos la aprobación de la Tree Preservation Ordinance y la finalización del Urban Forest Management Plan (UFMP), e invitó a debatir si los tres subcomités ad hoc existentes —organizados en torno a los temas Protect, Grow y Engage (que reflejan los tres pilares del UFMP)— deben mantenerse activos, modificarse o disolverse.
Los miembros presentes coincidieron en términos generales en que:
Los subcomités ad hoc existentes tenían una estructura laxa y nunca fueron plenamente operativos, en parte porque los miembros clave que los impulsaron se han ido desde entonces.
Los temas incluidos en cada subcomité ad hoc (divulgación comunitaria, coordinación de plantaciones, labor de enlace con planificación) son, en principio, responsabilidades del comité en pleno, no de subconjuntos del mismo.
Los nuevos subcomités ad hoc deben crearse únicamente en torno a proyectos específicos y concretos, no como comisiones permanentes de carácter general.
Las ideas concretas planteadas para el enfoque futuro del comité incluyeron:
Formalizar una plantilla escrita de recomendaciones para que, cuando el personal (como Grinberg) acuda en busca de orientación, el comité pueda producir un memorando claro y documentado en lugar de un debate verbal no estructurado.
Desarrollar principios o criterios generales para la selección de árboles en proyectos municipales (preferencia por especies nativas, valor ornamental, idoneidad para las condiciones del sitio, etc.) que el personal pueda consultar de forma proactiva antes de presentar un plan al comité.
Establecer un reconocimiento comunitario anual —como un pequeño premio o reconocimiento en prensa— para grupos como RELIEF y Daily Acts que contribuyen de manera significativa al dosel arbóreo de Petaluma.
Garantizar que el rol de enlace con la Planning Commission esté activo, de modo que el comité reciba informes periódicos sobre los próximos proyectos de desarrollo que puedan afectar a los árboles.
El comité acordó aplazar la votación formal sobre la disolución de los subcomités ad hoc existentes a la próxima reunión, para que los dos miembros ausentes (Gentilly y Shilt) puedan participar. El punto se incluirá en el orden del día de noviembre, junto con un punto separado sobre el desarrollo de un marco formal de documentación de recomendaciones.
Votación: Aplazada a la próxima reunión por consenso.
Comentarios del personal
Jen Santos anunció los próximos eventos de plantación de RELIEF:
Sábado, 24 de octubre: Plantación en East Side Connector Trail en Tulare Street y Castle Drive — 48 plántulas.
7 de noviembre: Meadowview Landscape Assessment District — 21 árboles de sombra.
Señaló que estos eventos forman parte de una subvención federal para el dosel arbóreo que posee la ciudad, con RELIEF como socio clave de implementación. Un miembro del comité añadió que Daily Acts también organiza una plantación en Casa Grande High School el sábado 24 de octubre.
Santos también informó que el personal de la ciudad está llevando a cabo activamente labores de poda de árboles, monitoreo del dosel y trabajos de mantenimiento en zonas de drenaje y puentes.
Puntos clave
La selección de árboles para el Caulfield Lane project permanece sin resolver, pero el comité proporcionó una aportación consultiva sustancial favoreciendo el arce rojo, el arce tridente, el fresno de Oregón, el arce de vid, la magnolia (para zonas secas) y el roble costero, con preferencia por un patrón repetitivo de múltiples especies y una combinación de árboles perennes y caducifolios. El personal hará un seguimiento por correo electrónico.
La financiación para el bioswale es incierta: todo el enfoque de ajardinamiento depende de si Caltrans aporta financiación para la mitigación de aguas pluviales; el comité asesoró sobre ambos escenarios, el de bioswale y el de árbol de calle tradicional.
Es probable que los tres subcomités ad hoc existentes sean disueltos formalmente en la reunión de noviembre, con la expectativa de que se formen nuevos subcomités ad hoc más específicos en torno a proyectos futuros concretos.
Dos nuevos puntos del orden del día están programados para la próxima reunión: una votación sobre la disolución de los subcomités ad hoc actuales y un debate sobre el desarrollo de un marco escrito estandarizado de recomendaciones para responder a las solicitudes del personal.
Un comentario público planteó la idea de notificar a los vecinos antes de retirar árboles de las calles o realizar podas importantes —el personal indicó que esto se abordará como parte de los procedimientos de implementación en curso de la Tree Preservation Ordinance.
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Qué ocurrió en esta reunión
Aprobación de Actas de la reunión del 16 de septiembre de 2026.
Chair Shand asked if there were any committee member changes or corrections to the September 16th, 2026 minutes. No corrections were raised by committee members. The minutes were approved without discussion of any substantive issues.
Revisión y debate de los subcomités ad hoc existentes del Tree Advisory Committee y formulación de recomendaciones para determinar cuáles permanecen activos, requieren modificaciones o han concluido, con base en las prioridades del Tree Advisory Committee y la coherencia con las funciones establecidas en la ordenanza habilitante – Superintendente de Parques y Espacios Abiertos, Jen Santos y Tree Advisory Committee
# Summary: Tree Advisory Committee Ad-Hoc Sub-Committees Review
Parks and Open Space Superintendent Jen Santos presented the need to review existing ad-hoc subcommittees—organized around three themes (Protect, Grow, and Engage)—and determine which should remain active based on committee priorities and ordinances. Multiple committee members, including Maryanne and others, expressed that the ad-hocs were never fully operational and lack specific project objectives, leading to consensus that the three existing ad-hocs should be sunset, with new ones created only for specific, targeted needs rather than maintained as general ongoing committees. The committee also discussed establishing a template-based format for providing documented recommendations to city staff and external partners, with Eric and Chair Sanchez emphasizing that clear guidelines and principles would help streamline advisory requests and reduce redundant explanations of priorities. Additionally, the committee recognized the contributions of community partners like RELIEF and Daily Acts to urban forestry efforts and discussed potentially establishing an annual award to recognize such groups. The committee deferred a formal vote on sunsetting the existing ad-hocs to the next meeting to allow full member participation and ensure all voices are heard.
Parks and Open Space Superintendent Jen Santos presented the need to review existing ad-hoc subcommittees—organized around three themes (Protect, Grow, and Engage)—and determine which should remain active based on committee priorities and ordinances. Multiple committee members, including Maryanne and others, expressed that the ad-hocs were never fully operational and lack specific project objectives, leading to consensus that the three existing ad-hocs should be sunset, with new ones created only for specific, targeted needs rather than maintained as general ongoing committees. The committee also discussed establishing a template-based format for providing documented recommendations to city staff and external partners, with Eric and Chair Sanchez emphasizing that clear guidelines and principles would help streamline advisory requests and reduce redundant explanations of priorities. Additionally, the committee recognized the contributions of community partners like RELIEF and Daily Acts to urban forestry efforts and discussed potentially establishing an annual award to recognize such groups. The committee deferred a formal vote on sunsetting the existing ad-hocs to the next meeting to allow full member participation and ensure all voices are heard.
Puntos de agenda (2)
Procedural (1)
1ProceduralAprobación de Actas de la reunión del 16 de septiembre de 2026.
El concejo municipal votará para aprobar el registro escrito oficial de lo ocurrido en la reunión del 16 de septiembre de 2026.
Qué ocurrió
Chair Shand asked if there were any committee member changes or corrections to the September 16th, 2026 minutes. No corrections were raised by committee members. The minutes were approved without discussion of any substantive issues.Public Hearing
2Public HearingRevisión y debate de los subcomités ad hoc existentes del Tree Advisory Committee y formulación de recomendaciones para determinar cuáles permanecen activos, requieren modificaciones o han concluido, con base en las prioridades del Tree Advisory Committee y la coherencia con las funciones establecidas en la ordenanza habilitante – Superintendente de Parques y Espacios Abiertos, Jen Santos y Tree Advisory Committee
El Tree Advisory Committee revisará sus grupos de trabajo actuales (subcomités ad hoc) y recomendará cuáles deben continuar, modificarse o cerrarse, con base en los objetivos que el comité debe cumplir y en lo que su estatuto le permite hacer.
Qué ocurrió
# Summary: Tree Advisory Committee Ad-Hoc Sub-Committees ReviewParks and Open Space Superintendent Jen Santos presented the need to review existing ad-hoc subcommittees—organized around three themes (Protect, Grow, and Engage)—and determine which should remain active based on committee priorities and ordinances. Multiple committee members, including Maryanne and others, expressed that the ad-hocs were never fully operational and lack specific project objectives, leading to consensus that the three existing ad-hocs should be sunset, with new ones created only for specific, targeted needs rather than maintained as general ongoing committees. The committee also discussed establishing a template-based format for providing documented recommendations to city staff and external partners, with Eric and Chair Sanchez emphasizing that clear guidelines and principles would help streamline advisory requests and reduce redundant explanations of priorities. Additionally, the committee recognized the contributions of community partners like RELIEF and Daily Acts to urban forestry efforts and discussed potentially establishing an annual award to recognize such groups. The committee deferred a formal vote on sunsetting the existing ad-hocs to the next meeting to allow full member participation and ensure all voices are heard.
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* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. HELLO, EVERYONE. GOOD [00:00:01] AFTERNOON. WELCOME TO [CALL TO ORDER] THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 21ST, 2026. UH, IF YOU'D LIKE TO PROVIDE A, A PUBLIC COMMENT IN TONIGHT'S AGENDA, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND, AND GIVE IT BACK TO THE CHAMBER, UH, OR IN THE CHAMBER, AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE CLERK, PLEASE. UH, I, [OATH OF OFFICE - Brian Fishman] AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INVITE KAITLYN CORLEY, THE CITY CLERK TO PERFORM THE OATH OF OFFICE FOR THE NEW MEMBER, BRIAN FISHMAN. HELLO. YES, PLEASE COME JOIN ME. UH, EXCITED TO, TO SWEAR IN NEW MEMBERS. ALWAYS. WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND OF COURSE, ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. SO I'LL JOIN YOU BEHIND HERE. WE HAVE A MIC RIGHT HERE FOR YOU. STAND HERE SO THEY CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. THAT WORK. SO PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME. I STATE YOUR NAME, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR. I, BRIAN FISHMAN, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND, THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC, AGAINST ALL ENEMIES BORN AND DOMESTIC. THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE, THAT I WILL BEAR TRUTH, FAITH, AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, THE CHARTER OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY, THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION, WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION OR PURPOSE OF EVASION OR PURPOSE OF EVASION, AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY, AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES, DISCHARGE THE DUTIES UPON WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER UPON WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER. CONGRATULATIONS. AWESOME. THANK YOU EVERYONE. WELCOME. BRIAN, PLEASE JOIN US ON THE D THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELCOME. UH, OKAY. UH, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE TAKE ROLL CALL ELLI. HERE. FISHMAN. HERE. GENTILLY IS ABSENT. MCKEE HERE. SANCHEZ HERE. SH UH, HILT IS ABSENT. SHAND. HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU, MELANIE. NOW LET'S [PRESENTATIONS] MOVE TO OUR PRESENTATION. UH, SO OUR PRESENTATION THIS AFTERNOON WILL BE THE SUMMARY AND REQUEST FOR FINAL FEEDBACK REGARDING THE TREE SPECIES SELECTION FOR THE COFIELD LANE PAVING PROJECT. THE FULL PRESENTATION WAS PRESENTED AT THE SEPTEMBER 16TH MEETING OF 2026. THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING, UH, WHICH IS NOW AVAILABLE TO VIEW ONLINE PRESENTING THIS AFTERNOON, WILL BE THE PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT MANAGER, BJORN GRINBERG. GRINBERG. EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMITTEE MEMBERS. UM, YEAH, SO AS THE CHAIR MENTIONED, UH, THIS ITEM HAS BEEN CONTINUED FROM, UH, LAST MONTH'S MEETING. SO I'LL DO MY BEST. I KNOW, UH, FOR OUR NEW COMMITTEE MEMBER, UH, THIS WILL ALL BE NEW INFORMATION, BUT I'LL DO MY BEST TO PROVIDE A REALLY QUICK, UM, SUMMARY OF THE, THE PRESENTATION WAS PREVIOUSLY GIVEN, AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO JUST NOTE A COUPLE OF ATTACHMENTS THAT, UH, WE SHARED WITH YOU TODAY AND, AND PUBLISHED, UH, WITH THE PACKET. UM, SO IN THOSE, AND WE CAN, I CAN PULL THOSE UP AS WELL. UH, ONCE WE GET TO OUR DISCUSSION. UH, THOSE INCLUDED A DRAFT, UH, PLANTING CONCEPT PLAN PROVIDED BY OUR CONSULTANT WORKING ON THE PROJECT. UM, IT'S VERY MUCH PRELIMINARY AND SUBJECT TO YOUR FEEDBACK, SO PLEASE DON'T THINK THAT ANYTHING IS SET IN STONE WITH THOSE PLANS.
UM, AND THEN I ALSO PROVIDED A LIST THAT WAS GENERATED BY THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA. THEY DEVELOPED SOME, UM, UH, PLANTING LISTS, AND I INCLUDED THEIR TREE LIST FOR, UM, TREES THAT THEY FOUND FOUND TO BE SUITABLE FOR, UH, LOW IMPACT DESIGN AR AREAS THAT ARE, UH, BASICALLY SERVING SOME SORT OF STORMWATER FUNCTION. SO, UH, WITH THAT, I WILL GET BACK INTO THE PRESENTATION HERE AGAIN. I'LL TRY TO GIVE A REALLY QUICK OVERVIEW. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CALL FIELD BETWEEN PAY RAN AND GARFIELD. THIS IS A, UH, PAVING PROJECT COMING UP, [00:05:01] UH, FOR CONSTRUCTION IN, UH, SPRING THROUGH FALL OF 2027. SO WE'RE, UM, NEARING COMPLETION OF OUR DESIGN. UH, REALLY THE LAST PIECE THAT WE NEED TO KIND OF PLUG IN IS THE, IS THE LANDSCAPING PLAN. UH, AS WITH ALL PAVING PROJECTS, UM, WE, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO DO A LOT MORE THAN JUST IMPROVE THE ROADWAY SURFACE. UH, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE SAFETY, REDUCE CONGESTION, IMPROVE ACCESSIBILITY, BEAUTIFY THE STREET, WHICH IS OUR FOCUS HERE. UH, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE IMPROVING LIGHTING AND ADDRESSING STORM WATER. AND SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED SEVERAL TREE PLANTING OPPORTUNITIES HIGHLIGHTED HERE. UM, WE'VE GOT LENGTHY SECTIONS OF CAULFIELD LANE, UH, BETWEEN ST. FRANCIS DRIVE AND SOUTH MCDOWELL BOULEVARD, WHERE WE REALLY DON'T NEED ANY SORT OF, UM, THERE ARE NO SIDE STREETS, THERE'S NO DRIVEWAYS. SO WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO INSTALL STREET TREES, UH, WITHOUT LOSING, UM, OR COMPROMISING ANY SORT OF TURNING MOVEMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT TWO, UM, SPOTS, UH, SPOT IMPROVEMENT LOCATIONS, UH, AT PROPOSED ROUNDABOUTS. UH, AND THOSE, THOSE ARE IN THE INTERSECTION OF ST. FRANCIS DRIVE. AND IN THE VERY LARGE INTERSECTION OF, UH, ELI BOULEVARD SOUTH, OUR PROPOSED CROSS SECTION, UH, BASED ON THE EXISTING AND PROJECTED TRAFFIC VOLUME, WE ARE RECOMMENDING REDUCING LANES ON CALL FIELD FROM UH, TWO IN BOTH, TWO IN BOTH DIRECTIONS DOWN TO ONE IN EACH DIRECTION.
UM, AND EVEN WITH THAT REDUCTION, WITH THE ADDITION OF, UH, OF THE ROUNDABOUTS OF THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS, I NOTED, UM, WE'RE EXPECTING TO SEE ACTUALLY SOME IMPROVEMENT TO THE TRAFFIC FLOW OUT THERE DURING PEAK HOURS. UH, SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THE KEY TREE PLANTING OPPORTUNITIES BEING THESE, UH, LANDSCAPED AREAS, UH, THAT ARE BASICALLY WITHIN THE EXISTING ROADWAY FOOTPRINT, UH, ONE ON EACH SIDE. AND THESE WOULD PHYSICALLY PROTECT THE BIKE LANE AND SIDEWALK FROM VEHICULAR TRAFFIC. AND I MENTIONED THE ROUNDABOUTS. WE'VE GOT TWO OF THOSE AT ELI AND ST. FRANCIS. UM, THIS IS A RECENT ROUNDABOUT INSTALLATION COMPLETED THIS SUMMER AT RAINIER AND MARIA, WHERE, UH, IT'S OBVIOUSLY VERY SMALL HERE, BUT WE DID, UM, PLANT A VALLEY OAK. SO SOME OF THE CRITERIA AND CONSIDERATIONS, UH, THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO, UM, OR SOME OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE'D LIKE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, I SHOULD SAY, AS YOU'RE, UH, THINKING THROUGH WHICH TREES MAY BE MORE SUITABLE FOR CALL FIELD, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE IS A KEY CONSIDERATION. UM, THE AESTHETICS OF EV EVERGREEN TREES VERSUS DECIDUOUS TREES. OBVIOUSLY WITH, UM, DECIDUOUS TREES, YOU'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL DROP THEIR LEAVES IN THE, UH, IN THE FALL AND WINTER. AND SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING TO MAYBE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. AND THEN, UM, THE, UH, ABILITY TO TOLERATE MOIST CONDITIONS. UM, AND SO THE, A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE ON THIS FRONT, I KNOW AT LAST MONTH'S MEETING I TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THESE WERE BEING DESIGNED AS BIOSWALES. UM, THAT IS STILL THE CASE. WE ARE STILL, UM, HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL, UH, BE ABLE TO GET SOME CALTRANS FUNDING. THEY NEED SOME, UM, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR PLACES IN PETALUMA TO MITIGATE, UH, STORMWATER IMPACTS OF THEIR, UH, MARIN SNOW MINERO'S WIDENING PROJECT. AND SO WE'RE OFFERING THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO, UH, POTENTIALLY, UH, MITIGATE SOME OF THEIR STORMWATER IMPACTS.
UM, IF THAT FUNDING FALLS THROUGH, OR IF THEY DECIDE THEY'RE NOT, UH, DON'T WANT TO COME TO THE TABLE ON THIS PROJECT, WE MAY NEED TO RECONSIDER THESE BIOSWALES, IN WHICH CASE, UM, THESE LANDSCAPE STRIPS MAY NOT, UH, THEY MAY BE MORE LIKE A TRADITIONAL, UM, STREET TREE CONDITION, UH, WHERE THEY'RE NOT TAKING ON A BUNCH OF, UM, RUNOFF IN THE, IN THE WINTER AND SPRING MM-HMM . SO, UM, I THINK WHAT I WOULD LOVE, YOU KNOW, FOR TONIGHT IS, IS, UH, MAYBE TO WALK AWAY WITH, UH, A COUPLE SOLID RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THOSE BIOSWALE CONDITIONS, NO TREES THAT WILL BE, UH, MORE SUITED FOR MOIST CONDITIONS. AND THEN IF THAT DOES FALL THROUGH, WHAT WOULD YOUR, WHAT WOULD YOUR BACKUP BE? UH, IF THESE WERE MORE TRADITIONAL STREET TREES, THAT WOULD NOT TAKE ON AS MUCH, UM, AS MUCH RUNOFF. UH, THE OTHER CONSIDERATION THAT I NOTED AT OUR LAST MEETING WAS THE SI THE SPREAD OF THE CANOPY. UH, THESE TREES WILL BE PLANTED ABOUT 15 FEET OFF OF THE SOUND WALLS. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR A TREE THAT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND 30 FEET IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THAT CANOPY, UM, WIDTH WITHOUT HAVING LIMBS OVERHANGING INTO PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS, WHERE THAT OBVIOUSLY BECOMES, STARTS TO BECOME MORE OF A MAINTENANCE ISSUE FOR THE CITY. UM, SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE OUR KEY [00:10:01] CRITERIA. UM, AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, I CAN PULL UP THE OTHER ATTACHMENTS THAT WERE SHARED, UH, IF THAT IS HELPFUL. BUT, UH, WE CAN, OTHERWISE WE CAN JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, BJORN. UM, I'LL OPEN UP THIS TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BY ASKING ANYONE WANTING TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM TO BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE SO ALREADY. OKAY. UM, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? NO. MELANIE? NO. OKAY. THEN, UH, I GUESS WE'RE OPENING UP TO OUR COMMENTS NOW. WELL, LET'S STOP BY AND ASK OUR CLERK TO, UM, READ OUR PUBLIC COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS. DO WE NEED TO DO THAT?
OH, OR WE CAN, IT LOOKS LIKE NO ONE'S KNOW'S COMING IN, BUT WE'LL DO IT JUST TO GET IT ON HERE. THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARTS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT DONE SO ALREADY. SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS. THREATS OF VIOLENCE AND OBSCENITY ARE GROUNDS FOR REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING. A COUNTDOWN WILL APPEAR FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE SPEAKER AND THE VIEWERS. UH, AND WITH THAT, I GUESS I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS SINCE THERE ARE NONE. UH, AND I'LL TURN IT TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, SEE IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK FOR BJORN. UH, SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SPECIFIC TREE SPECIES? YEAH. AND IF IT'S, IF IT'S TOO TOUGH FOR YOU ALL TO LAND ON, YOU KNOW, OR, OR COME TO CONSENSUS ON ANY ONE TREE, UH, I WOULD EVEN BE HAPPY WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME CANDIDATES IF YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT JUST THROWING OUT SOME DIFFERENT IDEAS. UM, SO REALLY LOOKING, WHATEVER, I'LL, I'LL MEET YOU WHEREVER, WHEREVER YOU LAND, , , AND THEN WE CAN ALWAYS TAKE THOSE BACK TO OUR, UM, TO OUR CONSULTANT AND ALSO TALK, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR CITY TEAM ABOUT, UM, THE DIFFERENT CONSIDERATE MAINTENANCE CONSIDERATIONS, ESPECIALLY. YEAH. UH, SO YOU WERE LOOKING FOR LIKE AN ALTERNATE, LIKE, UH, TREES THAT WILL DO WELL IN THE BIOSWALE WITH ADDITIONAL, LIKE MORE, UM, WET CONDITIONS, AND THEN AN ALTERNATIVE TO THAT IF YOU DON'T END UP PUTTING THE BIOSWELLS? CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, THE, THE, WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE ABLE TO INCLUDE THE BIOSWELLS WILL REALLY DEPEND ON CALTRANS FUNDING. UH, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT IF THEY, IF WE'RE UNABLE TO GET A COMMITMENT FROM THEM TO FUND, UH, THESE IMPROVEMENTS, WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK, LOOK AT THE PROJECT BUDGET, AND THEN THERE MAY BE SOME VALUE ENGINEERING DECISIONS AND MM-HMM .
YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE FIRST VALUE ENGINEERING DECISIONS WE WOULD PROBABLY MAKE IN A CASE LIKE THIS WOULD BE POSSIBLY MOVING AWAY FROM THE BIOSWALE AND TOWARDS MORE OF A TRADITIONAL, UM, UH, STREET CHANGE. IT'S ALMOST A, A TRADITIONAL, LIKE MEDIAN TYPE LOOK WHERE IT'S ABOVE, UH, SLIGHTLY ABOVE GRADE. OKAY. YEAH, GO AHEAD, STEPHANIE. WELL, I MEAN, I THINK THAT THIS, UM, ON THE PLANT LIST, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PLANTS THAT ARE LISTED FOR, THAT ARE MORE ADAPTABLE FOR WET CONDITIONS. SO IT SEEMS FAIRLY OBVIOUS THAT THOSE ARE THE TREES THAT WE SHOULD SELECT FROM FOR THE BIOSWALE TREES, LIKE THE, UH, WILLOWS, THE COTTONWOOD, THE OREGON ASH, AND THE VINE MAPLE. UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A LOT MORE SELECTIONS FOR AN AREA THAT IS NOT AS WET IF WE DO JUST A BASIC STREET TREE PLANTING. MM-HMM . UM, AND THEN MY ONLY CONSIDERATION THERE IS THAT SINCE THERE ARE STREET TREES, AND IT'S GONNA BE A DRIVE, KIND OF AN ORNAMENTAL, HOPEFULLY, UH, EXPERIENCE FOR PEOPLE THAT WE SELECT TREES THAT HAVE, UM, COLORFUL FOLIAGE, UH, THAT ARE FLOWERING IF POSSIBLE. UM, SO I WOULD GIVE HIGHER CONSIDERATION TO TREES THAT HAVE ONE OR BOTH OF THOSE CHARACTERISTICS IN GENERAL. AND THAT'S ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, STEPHANIE? NO. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU, UM, ARE, ARE YOU LOOKING RIGHT NOW FOR LITERALLY THE TREE SELECTION? BECAUSE IF YOU ARE, I THINK WE COULD FORM A SMALL AD HOC AND GIVE YOU THE EXACT LIST THAT WE WANT, BUT I THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE AN AWFUL LOT OF TIME TO [00:15:01] BE, YOU KNOW, PICKING TREES RIGHT NOW. BUT WE'D BE HAPPY TO SUPPLY YOU WITH THAT. I, I JUST THINK, DON'T YOU AGREE THAT IT MIGHT BE KIND OF COMPLICATED RIGHT NOW, BUT I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE LISTENING TO US , YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WANTED, YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT WE, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
AND SO COULD I, COULD I MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT WE GET BACK TO YOU VERY SHORTLY WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THAT MARYANNE, ME AND WHOMEVER ELSE WANTS TO SIT AND, AND COME UP WITH IT BASED ON THIS LIST THAT WE DO THAT? GO AHEAD. UM, I THINK THAT THE REASON THAT WE'RE HERE IS TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS, AND THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT BJORN IS COMING BACK AND ASKING US FOR THIS INFORMATION. SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE READY TO GIVE HIM SOME SUGGESTIONS. I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE LIKE AN IRONCLAD, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE HIM A HANDFUL OF TREES THAT HE CAN START TO WORK WITH AND SEE WHAT, UH, RELIEF CAN SOURCE OR WHAT HAVE YOU FROM THAT LIST. I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE, SO. OH, OKAY. WELL, I THOUGHT YOU JUST PROVIDED WHAT YOU THOUGHT. YES. WHAT I, I AGREE WITH YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE CAN PROVIDE THEIR THOUGHTS. YEAH. I THINK AT THIS TIME IT WOULD BE BEST FOR US TO AT LEAST GIVE SOME SUGGESTIONS, WHETHER THEY'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT IN STONE OR NOT. UM, NOW'S THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT. UH, AND THEN MAY, MAYBE WE CAN MAKE A FINAL DECISION ONCE WE HAVE A FULL LIST MADE AND, AND FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THERE'S GONNA BE BIOSWELLS OR STREET TREES OR THINGS LIKE THAT. SO. GREAT. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE, HAVE ANYTHING? GO AHEAD. GOT A QUESTION. WHAT, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE FOR UNDERSTANDING THE BIOSWALE ISSUE? , IT'S, UH, THAT'S, WHENEVER THEY GET THAT, THAT'S THE LITERAL MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION. UM, WE ARE, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT RESOLVED AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. UNFORTUNATELY, THINGS ARE NEVER VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH CALTRANS. SO, UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE GIVING OUR, OUR DESIGN CONSULTANT IS PROCEEDING UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE WILL GET THIS FUNDING AND THAT THESE WILL BE BIOSWALES. UH, BUT WE ARE ALSO READY TO PIVOT AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE IF WE FIND OUT THAT THEY WILL NOT BE BIOSWALES. SO, UM, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S THE MORE COMPLEX DESIGN. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROCEEDING WITH.
UH, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE BIOSWALES. UH, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW HOW LONG AFTER THE RAIN, LET'S SAY, LET'S SAY IT RAINED TODAY, HOW LONG WILL THAT AREA STAY WET FOR? OOH, THAT'S, YEAH. UNFORTUNATELY I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION. I WILL, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE DESIGNED FOR RETENTION. UM, THESE ARE, THEY'RE CONSIDERED BIOFILTER STRIPS, IF YOU'RE KIND OF GETTING INTO THE, THE NUANCES. SO, OKAY. THE IDEA IS THAT ONCE THE SOIL, UH, IS FULLY SATURATED, UM, ALL OF THE OVERFLOW WILL CONTINUE ONTO THE, TO THE CURB AND GO INTO THE STORMWATER SYSTEM. OKAY, AWESOME. SO THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED TO RETAIN THE MOISTURE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME. I DON'T KNOW. I WISH I HAD SOMEONE ELSE HERE TO TELL YOU HOW LONG THAT KIND OF ENGINEERED SOIL MIX, UM, STAYS WET. BUT, UM, YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE THAT INFO. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. YOU MENTIONED ENGINEERED SOIL NOW THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD. IS ALL THAT SOIL IN THE BIOS SOIL GOING TO BE, YEAH, THERE'S, THAT'S ADDED OR NATIVE SOIL? YEAH, IT'S GENERALLY WITH ANY SORT OF, UM, ANY SORT OF BIO, UH, RETENTION OR BIO BIO FILTRATION, UM, UH, SYSTEMS, YOU NEED TO, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO USE THE NATIVE ADOBE CLAY. SO THERE WILL BE, THERE WILL BE, UH, NON-NATIVE SOIL BROUGHT IN AND TO, UH, FILL THESE GOOD DRAINAGE. YEAH. OKAY. GOT IT. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? THANK, UM, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS BACK TOO. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS LIKE ONE OF OUR FIRST CHANCES LAST MEETING. AND, UM, I'M, I'M GLAD TO HAVE THESE ANNOTATED PLANS AND A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY AROUND THE REQUESTS. I FELT BAD, LIKE LAST TIME HE'D COME AND I WAS LIKE, OH, WE'RE ALL JUST LOBBING OPINIONS AT THIS PERSON. I HOPE HE'S ABLE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT. I THOUGHT ABOUT IT A LOT AFTERWARDS, SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, COME WITH MORE INFORMATION AND PREPARATION AROUND IT.
UM, I, I'M, DO YOU KNOW IF THE CONSULTANT ON THIS DESIGN IS, UM, LIKE ISA CERTIFIED AN ARBOR ARBORIST OF ANY FORM, OR, UH, THEY'RE DEFINITELY LICENSED, UM, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS. I, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT ALL THEIR INDIVIDUAL CREDENTIALS, BUT, UM, THEY'RE FROM A LARGE, UH, ONE OF THE LARGEST CIVIL ENGINEERING FIRMS IN THE STATE, UH, MARK THOMAS. [00:20:01] SO THEY'RE GONNA BE, THEY, THEY WORK ON A LOT OF HIGH PROFILE, UM, PROJECTS LIKE THIS ONE AND MUCH BIGGER THAN THIS. IF WE, THANKS, IF WE HAVE ANY ISA CERTIFIED STAFF WITHIN THE CITY, THEY'D PROBABLY BE A GREAT RESOURCE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS TOO. UM, OR IF THERE'S, IF THE, THE POTENTIALITY EXISTS TO PUT A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR MM-HMM . A CONSULTING ARBORIST, I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST PATH FORWARD FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IT IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO TRY TO MAKE THESE CALLS WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING LIKE THE SOIL VOLUME AND ALL THESE THINGS. MM-HMM . BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY HAPPY TO KIND OF JUST, YOU KNOW, TOSS A FEW EDUCATED GUESSES AT IT. UM, IT DOES LOOK LIKE SOME OF THE SPECIES THAT ARE LISTED HERE, THE RED MAPLE AND THE MAGNOLIA ARE GOOD CANDIDATES. THEY HAVE COLORFUL FOLIAGE, WHICH THE OTHER COMMISSIONER REQUESTED AND, UM, FLOWERING. SO THOSE SEEM LIKE PRETTY GOOD AND NOT A LOT OF LEAF LITTER NECESSARILY. UM, SO I THINK THOSE ARE PRETTY GOOD CANDIDATES. I THINK THE OREGON ASH IS A GOOD CANDIDATE FOR THE WETTER CONDITION, UM, LOCATIONS AS WELL. AND POSSIBLY THE WILLOWS, DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF THOSE, MAYBE THE COTTONWOOD YOU MIGHT WANT TO BE CAREFUL OF. 'CAUSE THEY CAN BE PRETTY BRITTLE AND NOT VERY LONG LIVED. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . UM, THEY LIST THIS MANZANITA AS A GROUND COVER, WHICH I REALLY, REALLY LOVE, BUT THEY'RE VERY INTOLERANT OF WATER, SO THEY CAN'T TAKE ANY SUMMER IRRIGATION AT ALL. UM, OR HAVE ANY STANDING WATER, YOU KNOW, IN THE WINTER PERIODS. THEY'RE VERY DRY, DROUGHT TOLERANT, SORT OF, YOU KNOW, HILLSIDE SPECIES. THEY'RE, THEY'RE AWESOME. WHAT TYPE OF TREE DID YOU SAY?
UH, THIS IS THE, UM, ALUS UVA URSI MANZANITA EMERALD CARPET. MM-HMM. IS NOT, IT'S JUST A GROUND COVER IN THIS FORM. YEAH. UM, BUT YEAH, SO, UM, THOSE COUPLE SPECIES SEEM LIKE GREAT CANDIDATES, UM, AND POSSIBLY, UH, THE VINE MAPLE. UM, SO I THINK THAT'S ALL I CAN KIND OF SHARE ABOUT THAT. AND IF THERE'S, YEAH. ANY OPPORTUNITIES TO USE, UTILIZE EXISTING STAFF RESOURCES AND EXPERTISE TO HELP WITH THAT CONSULTATION OR A CONSULTING ARBORIST. AND THEN I THINK MY LAST COMMENT ON THIS WOULD JUST BE, YOU KNOW, WHEN A, WHEN POSSIBLE TO TRY, UH, IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, ADDED WORK. AND I'D HATE TO KIND OF LIKE, YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT TO DO TO TRY TO DOCUMENT HOW THIS PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTATION ACTIVITY, UM, UTILIZES THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN. MM-HMM . IF THERE ARE ANY ITEMS IN THERE THAT CAN, UM, APPLY TO THIS AND WE CAN DOCUMENT THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD USE OF TIME AND RESOURCES. IT'S SUCH A GREAT RESOURCE THAT WAS INVESTED IN. AND SO JUST ONE MORE PLUG FOR THE UFMP, UM, IS REALLY, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT AS WELL. SO THANK YOU AGAIN SO MUCH FOR, FOR PROVIDING US ALL THIS INFORMATION AND, AND FOR ASKING FOR OUR ADVISORY ON THIS. SUPER APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST START, MAYBE GO DOWN THE LINE AND EVERYONE SAYS WHAT TREES THEY WOULD LIKE, AND WE CAN MAKE A LITTLE LIST AND, AND GO FROM THERE. OKAY. WELL, I, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING, ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT LAST TREES? SURE. I'LL JUST, I'LL GO RATTLE 'EM OFF. I THINK, UM, I THINK THE RED MAPLE IS GREAT. THAT WAS LISTED. TRIDENT MAPLE WOULD BE ANOTHER ONE. VINE, MAPLE, OREGON ASH, THE RECOMMENDED MAGNOLIA. UM, ALL OF THOSE SEEM LIKE GREAT CANDIDATES. AND I WOULD PROBABLY AVOID AT THIS POINT OAKS WHERE THEY'RE IN THE MUNICIPAL FOREST RESOURCE ANALYSIS DOCUMENT AS WELL. UM, IT WAS NOTED THAT WE'RE OAKS ARE OVERREPRESENTED IN THE CITY, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE MY, ONE OF MY FAVORITES.
UM, THERE ARE MEDITERRANEAN OAK WAR IS TAKING OUT OAKS ACROSS THE REGION, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF THEM. UM, AND MAYBE LONDON PLANER POSSIBLY, OR SYCAMORE COULD BE ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE TREE. THAT'S ALL MY RECOMMENDATIONS. WONDERFUL. UH, JUST A QUICK COMMENT ON THE MOB. UH, THEY ARE DEFINITELY ATTACKING THE, UH, VALLEY OAKS. UM, PRIMARILY WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY SIGNS OF THEM ATTACKING THE COAST LIVE OAK YET. UH, THEY GET THE NATURAL ON BERGER BEETLE, BUT SO FAR THE MOB HAS NOT TOUCHED THE COAST OAKS. UH, BRIAN, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? [00:25:01] UH, I THINK THERE'S MORE EXPERTISE OVER HERE, BUT I THINK THE RED MAPLES ARE WONDERFUL AND, AND, AND BEAUTIFUL. UM, I'M LOOKING THROUGH, UH, THE LIST HERE FOR THOSE THAT BOTH TOLERATE SATURATION AND OUR DROUGHT TOLERANT. UM, JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR IS GONNA BE RAINY, PRESUMABLY, BUT MM-HMM . UM, WE DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S GONNA BE THE CASE ALWAYS. UM, AND THAT'S LEADING ME TO SOME OF THESE, THESE OTHERS, THE, THE WHITE OAKS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE VALLEY OAK IS NOT THE BEST CHOICE GIVEN THE, THE RISKS THERE, BUT PERHAPS THE COASTAL OAK. I I ALSO DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE ROOM FOR A VALLEY OAK IN THOSE LOCATIONS. YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY RIGHT. BUT IN THE ROUNDABOUTS, I DO LIKE THOSE NICE, BIG BEAUTIFUL RIGHT, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE KIND OF THING. YEAH, EXACTLY. YEAH. SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY CONSIDERATION AS I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, PRIORITIZING FLEXIBILITY SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND SOME FUTURE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW MM-HMM . ADVISE ON THE REPLACEMENT IN FIVE YEARS. YEAH. YEAH. . UH, OKAY. UM, I KIND OF WISH WE WOULD'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS TOGETHER BEFORE WE CAME UP WITH THIS LIST, BUT, UM, 'CAUSE I WASN'T PREPARED FOR THIS, BUT I HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT WHAT IS ON THIS LIST, AND, UM, I ACTUALLY LIKE THE WASHINGTON ROBUSTA, THE FAN PALM. I LIKE IT BECAUSE IT'S DROUGHT TOLERANT. IT GROWS LIKE A WEED, AND IT'S, AND I LIKE IT.
AND, UM, AND I LIKE THE MAGNOLIA, AND I'M BASING IT ON HOW THEY THRIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I DON'T SEE, UM, A MORE, WHERE THEY'RE OLDER TREES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WERE, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN CARED FOR THAT MUCH. AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE GROWING VERY NICELY. AND I DO LIKE THE COTTONWOOD, I THINK THAT WE HAVE AHEAD OF THIS MAYBE A A LOT MORE DRY, JUST BECAUSE NEXT, IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF WATER. I'M MORE IN FAVOR FOR SOME OF THE TREES THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, THAT ARE FROM THE SOUTHWEST, THAT SOME THAT UC DAVIS IS RECOMMENDING. AND THEY'RE NOT ON THIS LIST, BUT THAT ARE, UM, DROUGHT TOLERANT AND DO WELL. THERE'S EVEN A TYPE OF AN OAK, WHICH ISN'T ON THIS LIST, WHICH IS, UM, THEY RECOMMEND, AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH. THERE'S A WEBSITE THEY HAVE ABOUT, UM, UH, DROUGHT TOLERANT TREES, AND THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THOSE, THOSE TREES FROM THE SOUTHWEST. AND I THINK WE'RE BEING A BIT TIMID NOT TO BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE I THINK TO THROW, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, I DON'T, I, I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THAT THE NATIVES ARE GONNA BE THE MOST ROBUST IN THE NEXT 20, 30 YEARS. AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT, WELL, WE WANT TREES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, GONNA BE HERE IN A HUNDRED YEARS. WE DON'T HAVE A FREAKING CLUE ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN A HUNDRED YEARS, BUT IT'S LIKELY THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF DROUGHT. AND THAT IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME TO INTRODUCE SOME OF THOSE TREES AND SEE HOW THEY'RE GONNA DO. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY OPINION ABOUT THIS. AND I'M JUST LIKE, THE COTTONWOOD, IT GROWS FAST. IT'S, I, IT'S, IT'S ALL OVER, UH, TOWN. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT CHOICE. THANK YOU. UH, I PERSONALLY HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH COTTONWOODS. I JUST SEE THEM FALL APART A LOT. SO ON A PUBLIC STREET, I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT THAT. UM, OUT IN THE FIELD THEY LOOK BEAUTIFUL AND LESS RISK OF IT HURTING SOMEBODY, UH, OR CAUSING DAMAGE. SO THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT THE COTTONWOODS.
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE THERE SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD. UM, I THINK I ALREADY, UH, KIND OF GAVE A LIST OF SOME OF MY FAVORITES. UM, AND BASICALLY, UM, JUST FOR ORNAMENTAL VALUE, UM, I LIKE THE MAGNOLIAS. I LIKE THE, UM, MAPLES. UH, I AGREE WITH THE POINT ABOUT THE, THERE'S A SMALL LIST OF PLANTS THAT ARE BOTH DROP TOLERANT AND WILL TOLERATE, UM, SATURATION. AND I THINK THOSE SHOULD BE HIGH ON THE LIST. UM, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE A PLUG FOR PLANTING NATIVE PLANTS WHENEVER WE CAN, BECAUSE I FEEL THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO ALL THE OTHER LIFE THAT WE SHARE THIS PLANET WITH. AND BY PLANTING ALL THESE PLANTS THAT ARE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, WE'RE CREATING AN, AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THE ANIMALS AND INSECTS AND BIRDS THAT LIVE HERE DON'T HAVE ANY RESOURCES ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T EVOLVE WITH THESE PLANTS THAT ARE FROM HALFWAY ACROSS THE WORLD. THEY EVOLVED WITH PLANTS THAT GREW HERE. THEY KNOW HOW TO USE THOSE PLANTS. THOSE ARE THE PLANTS THAT ARE THE SOURCES FOR THEIR FOOD, THEIR HABITAT, AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO I DO WANNA JUST ENCOURAGE THAT [00:30:01] WHENEVER WE CAN, WHENEVER IT MAKES SENSE THAT WE DEFAULT TO NATIVE PLANTS. UM, I, I ALSO AGREE WITH THE POINT THAT THE CLIMATE WILL BE CHANGING. WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW, BUT NATIVE PLANTS HAVE BEEN HERE AND EVOLVING FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, AND THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO EVOLVE. MAYBE THAT MEANS SOME OF THEM WON'T BE AROUND ANYMORE, BUT SOME OF THEM WILL. SO I DON'T THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE A REASON FOR LIKE, MOVING COMPLETELY AWAY FROM PLANTING NATIVE PLANTS. UM, SO YEAH, IF WE, ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO, TO, ESPECIALLY WITH STREET TREES, TO HAVE, UM, VERY ORNAMENTAL CHARACTERISTICS, FLOWERING FOLIAGE AND ALL THAT, I THINK MAKES IT EVEN MORE OF A HIGHLIGHT IN ADDITION TO ALL THE UTILITARIAN, UM, USES THAT WE HAVE FOR TREES. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. GOOD. STEPHANIE? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I DON'T ADVOCATE MOVING COMPLETELY AWAY FROM NATIVE TREES AT ALL.
I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP WITH THAT PLAN, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD BE OPEN-MINDED ABOUT TREES THAT MIGHT BE BETTER SUITED FOR A HOTTER CLIMATE AND LOOK INTO THAT AND TRY IT OUT IN ONE OR TWO PLACES. SO, UM, I, I REALLY AGREE WITH YOU MARIANNE . I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . UH, I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE NATIVE PLANTS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. UM, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR ALL THOSE REASONS. ALSO, WE DON'T WANT TO BRING IN AN INVASIVE SPECIES THAT DOES, THAT HAS NO PREDATORS HERE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, HENCE THE MOB. UM, JEN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO TRY ADD? NO, I THINK THIS IS GREAT CONVERSATION, AND I, UH, WOULD JUST ADD TO BJORN'S GREAT PRESENTATION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, UH, APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK TONIGHT. AND, UH, THERE IS A, UH, WE DO HAVE INTERNAL CERTIFIED ARBORISTS ISA TRAINED ARBORISTS THAT WE CAN RELY ON. I HAVE TRAINING IN LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE, SO I CAN ADD THAT TO OUR STAFF, UM, FEEDBACK TO BJORN'S PROJECT AS WELL. SO YEAH, I THINK, I THINK, UH, THIS FEEDBACK IS HOPEFULLY REALLY HELPFUL FOR BJORN. YEAH, DEFINITELY. AND, AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UM, THIS IS KIND OF NEW TERRITORY FOR US WHEN IT COMES TO PAVING PROJECTS. UM, AND SO THIS IS A REALLY GOOD, UH, LEARNING OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO KIND OF BUILD THIS KNOWLEDGE AND, AND, AND THESE MUSCLES. UM, AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE CALL OUT FOR THE URBAN FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PLAN. UM, I WAS THE, UH, AUTHOR OF OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. AND SO THAT'S A PLAN I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH REFERENCING WHEN IT COMES TO STREET PROJECTS. THIS IS A REALLY GOOD REMINDER TO USE, UH, TO USE THAT AS WELL. SO, UM, YEAH, NO, THIS IS ALL VERY HELPFUL. I'LL JUST ADD TOO, I, I HAVE REACHED OUT KIND OF ON THE SIDE TO SOME OTHER FOLKS, UM, WHO WE WORK WITH, AND A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY'VE GIVEN JUST FOR YOUR BENEFIT.
UM, LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT PRETTY STRONG CONSENSUS, UM, AROUND THE, UM, UH, THE WESTERN SYCAMORE WAS A STRONG RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT AS WELL AS THE ISLAND OAK. UM, SO I DON'T JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY REACTIONS TO THAT, BUT THE, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT JUST CAME IN, UH, JUST HIT MY INBOX A LITTLE WHILE AGO. YEAH. UH, I LOVE SYCAMORE TREES. THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL. THEY PROVIDE A LOT OF CANOPY THERE. MY CONCERN IS THEY ARE VERY MESSY TREES, SO THIS IS GONNA BE A WALKING, BIKING PATH. SO WE GOT LOTS OF LEAVES. YEAH. NOT THIS TIME OF YEAR, BUT MAINLY IT'S THOSE SPIKY LITTLE BALLS. OH, YEAH. THAT FALL EVERYWHERE THAT THE ANKLE BREAKERS WE CALL 'EM IN, IN THE INDUSTRY. YEAH. SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY CON. OH, AND THE OTHER CONCERN IS THEY TEND TO MOVE CONCRETE, AND SO THEIR ROOT SYSTEMS AND THEIR TRUNKS AS THEY GET BIGGER WILL WARP THAT THE ASPHALT OR CONCRETE. YEAH. SO THAT'S MY CONCERN THERE. UH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD, I AM A-A-I-S-A CERTIFIED ARBORIST, SO I'M NOT ON STAFF, BUT IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BY ALL MEANS ASK AWAY. GREAT. UH, MY, MY FAVORITES ON THIS LIST, UH, AND THERE WERE ACTUALLY ONES THAT I WAS THINKING OF BEFORE I EVEN SAW THE LIST ARE THE TREAD MAPLE AND THE RED MAPLE. MY CONCERN THERE IS, ACCORDING TO THIS DIAGRAM, WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE A, A ROW OF THEM, SO THEY'RE ALL DECIDUOUS, SO MM-HMM . WE'RE GONNA HAVE A ROW OF NAKED TREES RIGHT. CERTAIN MONTH OF THE YEAR. DO WE THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO BREAK THOSE UP AND DO ONE DECIDUOUS ONE, ONE EVERGREEN, ONE DECIDUOUS, ONE EVERGREEN, JUST SO WE KIND OF HAVE SOMETHING YEAH. IN THE, IN BETWEEN. UM, SO AGAIN, THE, THE, THE, UH, T TRINET AND THE RED MAPLE ARE GREAT. I LOVE THE, UM, UH, MAGNOLIAS. HOWEVER, [00:35:01] THEY'RE, THEY DON'T LIKE WET FEET, SO I WOULD, I WOULD KEEP THEM AWAY FROM AREAS THAT STAY WET. UM, GANACHE, GREAT LITTLE SLOW GROWING, BUT THEY, THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL TREES.
UH, AND SAME WITH THE WHITE OAK AND THE COAST OAKS, UM, WOULD PROBABLY AVOID THE VALLEY OAKS AGAIN, TOO BIG FOR THE AREA. SO, UH, THOSE WOULD PROBABLY BE MY, UH, ALSO THE BUCKEYES, THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL. I, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME, THEY CAN BE A LITTLE WILD THOUGH, SO THEY CAN REQUIRE SOME MAINTENANCE, AND THEY CAN, CAN, THEY'LL GO WHERE THEY WANT. SO, UH, THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN WITH, WITH THAT. BUT THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL, GREAT STRUCTURE. UM, ALSO, I SEE, UH, THE MANZANITAS HERE. I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING IN UNDERNEATH THE TREES AND CREATING A LADDER FUEL FOR FIRE, UH, ESPECIALLY ON A STREET OR WALKING PATH. YOU KNOW, SOMEONE'S SMOKING A CIGARETTE OR SOMETHING AND IS AN IDIOT AND FLICKS, IT CATCHES THAT LITTLE ONE NOW THAT CATCHES THE TREE, AND NOW WE HAVE A RAGING FIRE. SO, UH, MAYBE IN BETWEEN THE TWO, BUT NOT RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE CANOPY. AND, SORRY, DID YOU HAVE, UM, LET'S SEE. SO OBVIOUSLY WITH THE, THE MAPLES, THOSE WOULD BE JUST, DID YOU HAVE A STRONG RECOMMENDATION FOR AN EVERGREEN THERE? UH, I DO LIKE ARBUTUS. UM, THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL, UH, AND THEY STAY FAIRLY MANAGEABLE. UM, WASN'T ON THIS LIST THAT I SAW, BUT, UH, THAT WAS SOMETHING I WAS THINKING ABOUT BETWEEN THE MEETINGS. MM-HMM . UH, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF OTHER THAN THE OAKS, UH, THE COAST OAKS FOR A FULL EVERGREEN, I WOULD'VE, TO PUT A LITTLE MORE THOUGHT INTO IT, I JUST WANTED TO SECOND PATRICK'S POINT ABOUT, UM, HAVING A VARIETY WHERE WE CAN HAVE IT, JUST GIVEN THE AMBIGUITY THAT WE'RE ALL SORT OF TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE WEATHER AND WHAT'S CLIMATE CHANGE GONNA DO, AND, YOU KNOW, PESTS, ALL THOSE, ALL THESE KINDS OF THINGS. LIKE IF THERE'S WAY, YOU KNOW, AND I, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS SHAKES OUT IN TERMS OF COST AND EVERYTHING, BUT, BUT VARIATION IS PROBABLY A REALLY GOOD IDEA HERE. MM-HMM . GO AHEAD.
YEAH, IT IS INTERESTING TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU DO SEE STREETSCAPE PROJECTS, THERE'S A LOT OF UNIFORMITY WITH THE PLANT AND TREE SELECTION AND MM-HMM . AND I THINK THAT THAT WAS A COMMENT I HEARD, I THINK AT OUR, AT THE LAST MEETING WAS SOME KIND OF VARIETY MIGHT BE, UH, ADVANTAGEOUS, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM THAT THAT'S HOW LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS DON'T OFTEN THINK IN THAT, THOSE TERMS. SO, UM, I, I DO APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS. YEAH, I LIKE WHAT YOU JUST SAID ABOUT THAT EVERGREEN. I, I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK YOU SHOULD LOOK INTO THAT. AND ALSO, THIS IS A QUESTION ABOUT JUST LIKE THE LAYOUT OF THE TREES. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE JUST IN A STRAIGHT LINE, TELL ME THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE PLANTED ALL IN A STRAIGHT LINE. WELL, THOSE, THOSE, UM, THOSE STRIPS ARE GOING TO BE ABOUT SIX FEET WIDE, SO THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF ROOM TO OFFSET THEM TO ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. YEAH. UH, SO THEY'LL PRETTY MUCH BE, THEY WOULD PRETTY MUCH JUST BY DEFAULT HAVE TO BE CENTERED TO GIVE THE ROOTS SOME ROOM, BUT ALSO, UM, YEAH. THERE'S JUST NOT, THERE'S NOT MUCH WIGGLE ROOM THERE TO, TO, THEY WILL MORE OR LESS BE IN A STRAIGHT LINE. AND ALSO IN TERMS OF DIFFERENT VARIETY, YOU KNOW, I, I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS OF KEEPING EVERYTHING UNIFORM, BUT MAYBE WE DO LIKE ONE SECTION ALL UNIFORM, AND THEN THIS NEXT SECTION WE CHANGE UP THE SPECIES OF TREES AND KEEP THAT ALL UNIFORM. UM, IT, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE WEIRD TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A TALL TREE AND THEN A SMALL TREE, AND THEN A REALLY WIDE TREE. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, SO IT, AS LONG AS THEY WERE ALL KIND OF THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS, MAYBE OKAY. VARIETY. BUT, UH, I THINK SOME SORT OF UNIFORMITY WOULD LOOK BETTER TO, UH, JUST TO ADD TO THAT COMMENT, UM, POSSIBLY A REPEATING PATTERN OF TREES. MAYBE WE PICK THREE DIFFERENT SPECIES AND THEN IT, THAT PATTERN REPEATS. SO THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF UNIFORMITY AND ALSO VARIETY. MM-HMM . I LIKE THAT. I LIKE THAT IDEA TOO. MM-HMM . I DO TOO. MM-HMM . OKAY.
DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THIS CONVERSATION OR THEIR TREE SELECTION? I JUST SORT OF LISTENED FOR, LIKE, THE VALUES THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. YOU KNOW, MAYBE THOSE CAN BE KIND OF THINGS THAT CAN HELP JUST TO HOLD, LIKE THE SPECIES DIVERSITY, THE STRUCTURAL DIVERSITY, GOOD CANOPY UTILITY COMPATIBILITY, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, AESTHETIC VALUE, AND [00:40:01] EVERGREEN AND DECIDUOUS, AND A PREFERENCE FOR NATIVES. UM, SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT CAN BE CARRIED, YOU KNOW, YEAH. FORWARD ABSOLUTELY. OR SOMETHING. YEP. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT. BUT ALSO, REMEMBER, WE'RE NOT GONNA CHECK ALL OF THOSE BOXES, . YEAH. I THINK THAT'S THE CHALLENGE. THERE'S SO MANY TREES TO PICK FROM THAT YOU FEEL LIKE THERE MIGHT JUST BE THAT ONE PERFECT CANDIDATE, BUT THE REALITY IS THAT I, I COULD PROBABLY FIND A PRO AND CON ON EVERY ONE OF THESE IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. SO, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD GO WITH THE ONE THAT CHECKS THE MOST BOXES, AND AGAIN, KIND OF KEEPS EVERYTHING WITHIN SOME SORT OF UNIFORMITY. MM-HMM . WE'RE NOT GOING, YOU KNOW, A CONIFER AND THEN A VALUE OAK, AND THEN A CREPE MYRTLE, . WELL, THIS, YEAH, THIS HAS BEEN REALLY HELPFUL FOR ME. UM, I, I APPRECIATE IT. I WILL, UH, I THINK I'VE GOT SOME PRETTY GOOD NOTES HERE AND CAN TAKE THIS BACK TO THE, UM, TO BOTH CITY STAFF AND ALSO TO OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS WORKING ON THIS PROJECT. AND HOPEFULLY, WE'LL, WE'LL, UM, THREAD THAT NEEDLE AND, AND CHECK AS MANY OF THESE BOXES AS WE CAN AND GIVE, GIVE YOU ALL A PROJECT THAT WE CAN ALL BE, UM, PROUD OF. OKAY. SO, YEAH, VERY HELPFUL. WILL WE BE HEARING WHAT THE FINAL LIST IS AND, AND MAKE A FINAL DECISION, OR YOU GUYS ARE GONNA TAKE CARE OF THAT? I, AT THIS POINT, WE'RE ABOUT TWO MONTHS FROM HAVING THIS OR A COUPLE MONTHS AWAY FROM HAVING THIS PROJECT OUT TO BID. UM, I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE AN EMAIL UPDATE, UH, MAYBE THROUGH, THROUGH JEN IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
AND, UM, UH, BUT YEAH, UNLESS I'M, I'M HOPING TO AVOID HAVING TO COME BACK IF, IF I CAN , UM, YEAH, AN EMAIL WOULD BE GREAT, JUST SO WE CAN MAKE OUR FINAL COMMENTS ON ANY, ANY DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE. THAT SOUNDS GOOD. UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION? NO. ALL RIGHT THEN. UH, THANK YOU B COOL. THANK YOU ALL. APPRECIATE IT. WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE [GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT] GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS. UH, DURING THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMITTEE'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE. TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTAL, NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES. UH, MELANIE, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? NOT PRIOR TO THE MEETING, NO. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU, MELANIE. UH, WITH THAT, IF, IF THERE'S ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT, PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE BRING YOUR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK DESK IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE SO ALREADY. MELANIE, CAN YOU READ OUR PUBLIC COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS? MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT DONE SO ALREADY. SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO BE RESPECTFUL IN THEIR COMMENTS. THREATS OF VIOLENCE OR OBSCENITY ARE GROUNDS FOR REMOVAL FROM THIS MEETING. A COUNTDOWN TIMER WILL APPEAR FOR YOUR, FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF THE SPEAKER AND VIEWERS. OKAY. WE WILL HAVE NINA STO. GOOD TRY. . IT WAS AN ADMIRABLE EFFORT. MY APOLOGIES. . THANK YOU. IT'S, UM, QUITE HEARTENING TO BE SURROUNDED BY TREE PROFESSIONALS AND PEOPLE WHO, WHO RECOGNIZE, UH, THE, THE GREAT IMPORTANCE FROM, FROM CLIMATE TO SHADE TO, TO ALL OF IT. I, I DON'T NEED TO GET INTO THAT. I AM, UM, VERY PROUD THAT WE'RE SO CONCERNED ABOUT OUR TREES THAT WE REQUIRE PERMITS TO, TO TAKE THEM OUT.
AND, UH, WE HAVE, UH, STANDARDS, UH, TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT PRUNING IS DONE SAFELY AND INAPPROPRIATELY TO KEEP THE TREES ALIVE. UM, I, I FEEL LIKE SOMETHING IS, IS, IS MISSING FROM THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT THOUGH. UM, BECAUSE WE, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT TREES, WE WANT TO KEEP THEM, ET CETERA. WE WE'RE DOING, WE'RE FORGETTING, UM, HOW IMPORTANT IT REALLY IS TO THE PUBLIC AND HOW DISTURBING IT CAN BE WHEN, UH, TREE IS CUT DOWN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR WHEN, UH, PG AND E STARTS, YOU KNOW, TRIMMING BACK OR WHATEVER. AND IT, UM, IT IS DISTURBING JUST [00:45:01] FROM AN EMOTIONAL TREE. YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA HUG IT, YOU KNOW, THE GRANDFATHER TREE PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO FROM, FROM A PHYSICAL STANDPOINT. AND, AND THE NOISE, UH, BOTH ITS VOLUME, ITS DURATION, UH, ITS PITCH, UH, IT CAN HAVE PHYSIOLOGIC EFFECTS. UM, I THINK WE'VE GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BETTER FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AROUND OUR, OUR TREE CARE PRACTICES. SINCE PERMITS ARE REQUIRED FOR STREET TREE, UH, REMOVALS AND, AND, UH, SIGNIFICANT PRUNING, UM, I'M CURIOUS WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR, UH, NOTIFICATION OF RESIDENTS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA. AN EXAMPLE MIGHT BE FOUND IN THE CITY OF NOVATO, WHERE THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS THERE IS AN APPEAL. UH, OR THERE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, A 10 DAY PERIOD FOR, FOR THERE TO BE COMMENT ON IT. AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN THESE COMMENTS LEAD TO A PROJECT BEING, UH, HALTED, BUT, UM, THERE IS A MECHANISM IN PLACE TO JUST ALERT NEIGHBORS. AND HERE'S WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT. IT GIVES SOME OF US WHO ARE A LITTLE OVER CAFFEINATED AND JUST A LITTLE STRESSED AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEAVE . AND IT ALSO HELPS EXPLAIN TO CHILDREN, HEY, NO, WE'RE NOT KILLING THE TREE, OR WE'RE JUST GONNA CUT ITS HAIR A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE IT BETTER. UH, IT'S VERY, VERY DISTURBING, BUT HERE'S A CHANCE TO FIX IT. CAN WE? I HOPE SO. LET'S AGENDIZE IT. UH, DO WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT MARGIN? YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT.
UH, CHAIR SHAND, UH, I'LL DEFINITELY WORKING WITH OUR PLANNING TEAM WHO IS AT THIS VERY MOMENT, UH, CONSTRUCTING THE PROCEDURES TO IMPLEMENT THE TREE PLANNING ORDINANCE, WHICH IS NOW PART OF OUR, UH, ZONING CODE. SO, UM, THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE'LL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH, UM, HERE AT THE, UH, TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, AS A DATE TO BE DETERMINED. BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE PLANNING TEAM TO BRING THAT BACK AND WE CAN ASK THOSE QUESTIONS. THAT'S WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS. I APPRECIATE IT. UH, I GUESS THAT WOULD CONCLUDE THE GENERAL PO PUBLIC COMMENTS SECTION. UH, LET'S MOVE TO [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. UH, ARE THERE ANY COMMITTEE MEMBER CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS TO THE SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2026 MINUTES? NO. UH, OKAY. THEN, UH, [PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION] WITH THE MINUTES APPROVED, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO, REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE EXISTING AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEES. UH, WE WILL BE REVIEWING AND DISCUSSING EXISTING SUB AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEES, AND WE'LL BE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO DETERMINE WHICH AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEES WE FEEL SHOULD REMAIN ACTIVE AND WHICH ONES RE WHICH ONES WARRANT CHANGES, OR WHICH ONES WE FEEL ARE COMPLETELY BASED ON TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, COMMITTEE PR PRIORITIES AND CONSISTENCY WITH DUTIES ESTABLISHED IN THE ENABLING ORDINANCES. I'LL TURN THIS OVER TO OUR PARKS AND OPEN SPACE SUPERINTENDENT JEN SANTOS TO START THE DISCUSSION. THANK YOU, CHAIR SHAND. I WANNA TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT, UM, AD HOC COMMITTEES IN GENERAL BEFORE YOU START YOUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SPECIFIC AD HOCS AND MAYBE POTENTIAL OTHERS. UM, AS A COMMITTEE, THEY'RE, UM, THE, THE AD HOCS ARE NOT NECESSARILY A REQUIREMENT FOR US. THEY ARE A TOOL FOR US TO, UH, DIG DOWN DEEPER, TO TAKE MORE TIME WITH TOPICS AND TO FOCUS ON THINGS THAT, UM, AS A COMMITTEE WE FEEL ARE IMPORTANT AND BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THE LARGER BOARD FOR DECISIONS.
SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THE COMMITTEE OF THAT. AND WE DO HAVE, THIS COMMITTEE HAS MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENTS WITH PASSING OF THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ORDINANCE INTO OUR ZONING CODE TO PROTECT TREES. UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE URBAN FOREST, UH, GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN, UH, THAT THIS ADVISORY BODY WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN, UH, MOVING FORWARD. AND SO NOW WE FOUND OURSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT IS THE NEXT CHAPTER OF THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WHAT THINGS SHOULD WE BE FOCUSING ON? OR IS THERE ANYTHING, AND SHOULD WE KEEP THE EXISTING AD HOCS THAT HAVE REMAINED? DO WE WANT TO MODIFY THEM IN ANY WAY? UM, [00:50:01] DO WE WANT TO, UM, CONCLUDE THE ONES WE HAVE NOW AND MAYBE START FRESH, UM, AT OUR NEXT MEETING? OR, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE WANNA DO THAT FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT? UM, THIS IS, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A DISCUSSION FROM YOU ALL TONIGHT. 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE A FEW NEW MEMBERS. WE ALSO HAVE SOME EXISTING MEMBERS THAT WERE PART OF THAT TRANSFORMATION OF THE ORDINANCE AND THE URBAN GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN. AND SO WE WANNA TAKE THIS TIME TO REALLY HAVE A HARDY DISCUSSION. UH, AND IF, IF THE COMMITTEE DECIDES THAT THERE IS ROOM FOR MAKING CHANGES TO THE EXISTING, UH, COMMITTEES, WE'LL WANT A MOTION AT SOME POINT PUT ON THE TABLE FOR EACH THING THAT WE WANT TO DO TONIGHT. WE ALSO HAVE THE OPTION TO CONCLUDE OUR DISCUSSION AND CONTINUE ONTO OUR NEXT MEETING IF IT'S A GOOD, HEARTY DISCUSSION. AND WE'D LIKE TO, EXCUSE ME, HAVE MORE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, HOWEVER YOU THINK. SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO FEEL FREE TO HAVE A GREAT DISCUSSION A, ABOUT WHAT WE, UH, COULD FOCUS ON. THIS IS A MOMENTOUS OCCASION. UM, AND JUST A QUICK REMINDER ALSO THAT WE, UM, WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR PLANNING TEAM TO BRING THEM BACK BEFORE YOU TO HAVE AN UPDATE REGARDING WHAT THE PROCEDURES ARE BEHIND THE TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE. SO, UM, I KNOW WE'RE AT A KIND OF A CROSSROADS HERE, DECIDING WHAT OUR NEXT STEP IS.
AND IT'S PERFECTLY FINE NOT TO HAVE ANY AD HOCS UNTIL AT SUCH POINT WE DECIDE WE NEED ONE AS WELL. SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE FOR YOU. AND I'LL, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO, UH, CHAIR SHAND, AND BOTH MYSELF AND MELANIE ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, JEN. UM, I'LL NOW OPEN THIS ITEM UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS BY ASKING IF ANYONE WANTED TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM TO BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAD NOT DONE SO ALREADY. UH, MELANIE, HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? WE HAVE NOT. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, CAN YOU READ OUR PUBLIC COMMENT INSTRUCTION? OH, I GUESS WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ANY. OKAY. UH, I GUESS WITH THAT, [COMMITTEE COMMENT] WE'RE GONNA TURN IT OVER TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY MEMBERS THAT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. I AM GOING TO KIND OF RELY ON YOU GUYS 'CAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN HERE THE LONGEST IN, IN THIS. I HAVE NOT BEEN IN A AD HOC MEETING YET, SO, UM, UH, I'LL MAKE COMMENTS AS NEEDED, BUT I THINK YOU GUYS CAN TAKE THE FLOOR FROM HERE. UM, MY, MY, UH, FEELING ABOUT IT IS THAT WE, THE AD HOCS TYPICALLY ARE FOR, TO WORK ON A SPECIFIC PROJECT OR A SPECIFIC THING. UM, I THINK WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED A LOT AND WE, SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE PART OF THAT AREN'T HERE ANYMORE. UM, BUT IT DOES KIND OF MAKE SENSE TO ME AT THIS POINT TO SUNSET THE EXISTING, UM, AD HOCS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THE THINGS THAT ARE DESCRIBED UNDER EACH OF THESE HEADINGS ARE THINGS THAT THE TREE ADVISORY BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AS A WHOLE. UM, AND WITHOUT A SPECIFIC OBJECTIVE IN TERMS OF A PROJECT OR A GOAL THAT WE'RE TRYING SPECIFICALLY TO ACCOMPLISH, OTHER THAN JUST ADVISING THE CITY IN GENERAL ABOUT TREES, I DON'T THINK THAT THE AD HOCS ARE REALLY NECESSARY AT THIS POINT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY OPINION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. STEPHANIE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? I APPRECIATE HOW CONCISE YOU ARE ABOUT THAT. MM-HMM .
BECAUSE MARIANNE AND I ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE HERE FROM THE, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER FOLKS, THERE'S TWO OTHER PEOPLE ON OUR BOARD WHO AREN'T HERE RIGHT NOW. AND, UM, OUR CHAIR, OUR FORMER CHAIR, HAD COME UP WITH THIS IDEA THAT PROTECT, GROW, AND ENGAGE. AND SO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AT THE TIME, UM, REALIZED THAT THEY HAD PARTICULAR STRENGTHS AND THEY ACTUALLY DID DO A BIT OF WORK ON THESE VARIOUS COMMITTEES, OR AD HOCS, I SHOULD SAY. UM, BUT, UM, IT WAS REALLY ONLY SUGGESTED ONE MEETING BEFORE THE CHAIR PASSED. HE DIDN'T PASS ON, BUT HE PASSED, PASSED OUT, HE GRADUATED, HE WENT SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND, UM, AND I, I WAS, I WAS REALLY, UH, I WAS A PART OF THE TPO, THAT AD HOC GROUP THAT HELPED USHER IN THE, THE, UM, TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCE. AND THAT [00:55:01] WAS REALLY A VERY FOCUSED AND REALLY GRATIFYING EXPERIENCE. AND IT WAS VERY MUCH STEERED BY RELIEF. AND, UM, SO AT THIS POINT, UM, THERE ARE JUST SOME THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS LIST OF GROW, ENGAGE, AND PROTECT, I, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AND IT STILL HASN'T HAPPENED, BUT WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A LIAISON WITH A PLANNING COMMITTEE, UM, THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE BRINGING TO US PROJECTS ABOUT, OR REPORTING ON WHAT PROJECTS ARE COMING FORTH IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THOSE REPORTS, BUT THOSE ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. AND, UM, THOSE JUST DON'T HAPPEN. KEITH ISN'T HERE TODAY. EVEN IN THE PAST, OUR LAST CHAIR, DARREN NEVER GAVE US ONE REPORT. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS DARREN WANTED, I WAS GONNA DO WITH HIM WAS TO REVIEW SOME OF THE MAJOR, UM, PLANNING THE, THE PROJECTS THAT WERE COMING FORTH AND BE ABLE TO ADVISE BEFORE THEY WERE SET IN PLACE IF THERE WERE ISSUES ABOUT TREES. SO I STILL THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THAT HAPPENED, BUT IT CAN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT THE LIAISON FROM OUR, FROM OUR GROUP. 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ARE YOU? AND, AND YOU'RE NOT EITHER. MM-HMM. YEAH. SO KEITH IS THE, THE PERSON THAT SHOULD, THAT COULD BE DOING THAT FOR US.
BUT I TEND TO AGREE WITH MARYANNE THAT WE REALLY JUST DIDN'T HAVE THAT, THE, THAT THAT THOSE, THOSE AD HOCS WEREN'T REALLY CEMENTED OR IN PLACE TO ANY GREAT EXTENT. AND SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE, FEEL FREE TO FORM THEM WHEN WE THINK WE NEED TO. AND OTHERWISE, I THINK THAT THEY JUST WEREN'T THAT ROCK SOLID TO BEGIN WITH. SO I DON'T REALLY SEE THE, THE, THE NEED TO BELABOR THE ISSUE AND THAT. SO THAT'S MY, MY POINT OF VIEW. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH MARYANNE ABOUT THAT. OKAY. UM, OKAY. SO I GUESS WE HAVE A COUPLE OPTIONS HERE. UH, WE ARE MISSING A FEW MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR A WHILE, SO WE COULD PUSH THIS OFF TO THE NEXT MEETING AND HEAR THEIR COMMENTS AND OPINIONS ON IT. UM, WE COULD RUN THROUGH THESE, UH, STEP BY STEP AND, AND HEAR EVERYONE'S, UM, THOUGHTS ON IT OR WE COULD MAKE A VOTE RIGHT NOW. ANY THOUGHTS? I HAVE AN OPINION. , I HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT THAT. NUMBER ONE, MARIANNE IS ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT, SHE'S VERY BUSY. SO SHE ISN'T , SHE HASN'T WANTED TO BE ON AN AD HOC. I, I MEAN, I'M SPEAKING FOR YOU, BUT YOU'VE, YOU'VE SAID THAT DIANE WHO'S NOT HERE IS ALSO, UM, SHE WAS ACTUALLY VERY ENGAGED WITH TARYN OBEYED, WHO WAS ON THE, UM, ON OUR, OUR COMMITTEE BEFORE THEY CAME UP WITH SOME IDEAS ABOUT COMMUNITY, UH, RELATIONSHIPS. BUT I DON'T THINK DIANE IS ALSO THAT SHE'S REALLY BUSY TOO. SO, I MEAN, A LOT OF THIS IS JUST, JUST HOW MUCH TIME DO WE REALLY WANNA SPEND OUTSIDE OF THIS COMMITTEE UNLESS WE REALLY, ALL OF, YOU KNOW, EACH OF US SEES A REAL NEED TO DO THAT. DOES THAT, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, AT THE, UH, CATEGORIES LIKE, UM, OH, OH, THIS ONE GROW, THAT ONE I WAS ON WITH DARREN AND IT SAID, CONNECT WITH COMMUNITY AND VOLUNTEER GROUPS TO PROMOTE TREE PLANTINGS THAT I WAS GONNA SAY, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN ANNOUNCING PLANTINGS OR PRUNINGS BY RELIEF.
AND I DON'T HAVE IN FRONT OF ME THEIR SCHEDULE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO KEEP EVERYBODY OH, UM, APPRISED OF WHO'S NOT PART OF RELIEF MM-HMM . SO I, THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON SATURDAY, A PRUNING, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO DO THAT, THEY CAN ASK ME ABOUT IT. BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT THAT SOMEBODY ANNOUNCED THOSE DATES AND I COULD PROBABLY TAKE THAT ON. BUT OTHERWISE, UM, I I, I DON'T HAVE MUCH MORE TO SAY OTHER THAN I, I'D BE HAPPY TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE VOTE ON THIS AND, YOU KNOW, DECIDE TO NOT HAVE . [01:00:01] I, I FEEL LIKE IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE AN URGENT DECISION AND THAT IT WOULDN'T HURT ANYTHING TO LET THE OTHER FOLKS THAT AREN'T HERE TONIGHT WEIGH IN ON IT AS WELL. I MEAN, I THINK WE SEEM TO BE ALL KIND OF LEANING THE SAME WAY, BUT THEY MAY HAVE OTHER OPINIONS OR ARGUMENTS THAT WE SHOULD HEAR. I MEAN, I'M NEW HERE, BUT THE, UM, AS A GENERAL PRINCIPAL, I THINK SUBCOMMITTEES ARE MOST EFFECTIVE WHEN THEY'RE VERY TARGETED AND THEY HAVE A VERY DISTINCT PROJECT. ABSOLUTELY. AND THESE FEEL KIND OF GENERAL, UM, AND FRANKLY, ALL OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES. YEAH. SO, OKAY. THAT SAID, I DO THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT SOME VERY SPECIFIC PROJECTS AND THEN MAYBE DEVELOP SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT THAT'S WHERE I STAND. SO YOU'RE BASICALLY THE SAME. WE CAN KIND OF GET RID OF WHAT WE HAVE HERE, BUT DON'T GET RID OF AD HOCS COMPLETELY. YEAH. OKAY. I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE LETTING GO OF THE PREVIOUS AD HOCS AS WELL, BUT I'M ALSO HAPPY TO HAVE MORE COMMISSIONERS HERE TO DO THAT AT A FUTURE MEETING. UM, AND THEN YEAH, WE CAN DECIDE HOW TO ESTABLISH A NEW PATH FORWARD TO MAKE IMPACT WITH THE TIME THAT WE'VE GOT HERE TOGETHER. I WONDER, I, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVEN'T BEEN ON ANY COMMITTEES BEFORE, I DON'T KNOW IN OTHER COMMITTEES, AND I WAS CERTAINLY THINKING ABOUT BJORN IN HIS PRESENTATION. I'M JUST GONNA TANGENT SLIGHTLY.
LIKE, CAN WE, IS THERE A TEMPLATE FOR US TO PROVIDE OUR ADVISORY IN SOME SORT OF WRITTEN OR DOCUMENTED FORMAT SO THAT IT'S MORE HELPFUL FOR THAT TYPE OF PER, FOR, FOR STAFF TO MAKE USE OF OUR ADVISORY? LIKE HAD PRIOR, YOU KNOW, A TEMPLATE THAT SAID, WHAT ARE THE COMMITTEE'S PRIMARY RECOMMENDATIONS AND SECONDARY CONSIDERATIONS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, FILL IN AND THEN THAT COULD BE FURTHER FILLED IN WHEN THAT WILL COME UP AGAIN IN THE FUTURE? YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO BE CONSIDERATE OF THAT PERSON'S TIME AND, YOU KNOW, THEIR PRECIOUS TIME AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN JUST GIVE THEM SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY TAKE BACK TO THEIR DESK AND MAKE USE OF. AND IT'S JUST SORT OF LIKE A GENERAL, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAPPENS IN OTHER COMMITTEES AND HOW THE ADVISORY IS PROVIDED SO THAT I WONDER ABOUT THAT AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY ADVICE AROUND THAT. AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, MY PREFERENCES FOR THE AD HOCS, I MIGHT LIKE BROKEN RECORD ON THIS, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND GUIDANCE THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN THE UFMP, I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT IS LIKE, SO MUCH GREAT WORK AND INVESTMENT WENT INTO THAT. SO I THINK FINDING SOMETHING IN THERE, THERE'S A LOT IN THERE. THERE'S SOME, THERE ARE SPECIFIC AND BROAD THINGS AND WE COULD PROBABLY FIND SOMETHING IN THERE THAT WOULD BE REALLY, UM, A BIG CONTRIBUTION, I THINK. AND THEN MY FINAL PIECE THERE IS SOMETHING RELATED TO OUR URBAN FORESTS COMMUNITY PARTNERS, WHICH WOULD BE RELIEF AND DAILY ACTS. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LOOK AT THE UFMP, THEY'RE MENTIONED IN THERE. CERTAINLY RELIEF IS, AND YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT THEY DON'T HAVE MUCH FUNDING LEFT AND THEY HAVE A VERY MEAGER ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE AND STAFF, YOU KNOW, BARELY ANY AT ALL.
SO I, I WONDER IF WE CAN FIND A WAY, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE TO HELP SUPPORT THEM AND OR AT LEAST RECOGNIZE THE EXCEPTIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THEY'VE MADE TO THIS CITY BECAUSE THEY'VE JUST VOLUNTEERED SO MUCH TIME AND THEY'VE REALLY GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND. SO I WOULD LOVE TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO SUPPORT THEM IN THAT. BUT IN SHORT, I THINK I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO AWAY WITH THE CURRENT AD HOCS POSSIBLY IN OUR NEXT MEETING AND FURTHERING THE CONVERSATION THEN TOO. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO ANY COMMENTS? WELL, ONE THING I THINK THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE, I'D LIKE TO TAKE UP MOVING FORWARD IS RECOGNIZING COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO TREE CANOPY IN THE CITY. MM-HMM . UH, AS A TREE ADVISORY BOARD, MAYBE WE ANNUALLY GIVE OUT A LITTLE AWARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, GET IT IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY, GET THE WORD OUT, AND EDUCATE PEOPLE. ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THIS LIST, BASICALLY . SO GREAT IDEA. YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. UM, I GUESS MY GENERAL THOUGHTS ON IT ARE, UH, SOUNDS LIKE ALL OF THESE AGENDA ITEMS THAT WERE CREATED FOR AN AD HOC ARE NO LONGER THE, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE PART OF THIS ARE [01:05:01] NO LONGER HERE. SO, UH, I WOULD, MY, MY THOUGHTS ARE AT THE BARE MINIMUM, WE CREATE A NEW AD HOC FOR EACH ONE OF THESE IF WE DEEM THEM TO STILL BE, UM, PERTINENT. UM, SO THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS ON IT. DO WE NEED A MOTION? WHAT DO WE, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD? UH, WELL WHAT I AM HEARING TONIGHT IS FAIRLY CONSISTENT SUNSETTING OF THE EXISTING AD HOCS WITH POTENTIAL DISCUSSION FOR FUTURE AD HOCS. AND NEXT MEETING. WOULD WE HAVE MORE? BUT I WANT TO CONFIRM WITH THE COMMITTEE. SO YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TONIGHT TO SUNSET ALL THREE OF THE EXISTING ONES, OR YOU COULD WAIT UNTIL YOU HAVE MORE, WHATEVER IS YOUR PREFERENCE. COULD WE PUT IT AS AN AGENDA ITEM TO MAKE THAT VOTE IN THE NEXT MEETING? TO, TO VOTE YES OR NO ON, UM, CLOSING OR SUNSET? THE, THE AD HOCS? OF COURSE. ABSOLUTELY. YES.
OKAY. THEN THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WOULD HAVE THE CHANCE TO SEE THAT AGENDA ITEM, CONSIDER IT, AND WE CAN ALL VOTE AS A, UH, WITH THAT REPRESENTATION. YEAH. UH, YEAH. UH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ALL KIND OF MAKING THE SAME DECISION. SO WE HAVE THE MAJORITY RIGHT NOW, BUT PERHAPS THEY HAVE SOME SORT OF, UH, INFORMATION THAT WE'RE NOT HEARING THAT COULD CHANGE OUR MIND. SO, SOUNDS LIKE WE WANNA WAIT TILL NEXT MEETING TO MAKE A FINAL DECISION. EVERYONE'S IN AGREEMENT. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD. AND IF WE CAN, IF HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY'S HERE, THEN WE CAN ALL MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER. OKAY. JUST MAKE A FRESH START KIND OF, AND, AND NO MATTER WHAT WE'RE MAKING A DECISION, WHETHER EVERYONE'S HERE OR NOT, NEXT, NEXT MEETING, WELL, IF, IF WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, THEY'LL KNOW ABOUT IT AHEAD OF TIME. SO IF IT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM MM-HMM . OKAY. CAN WE MOVE THAT TO THE NEXT AGENDA MEETING? ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL BE SURE TO AGENDIZE THAT FOR OUR NEXT MEETING. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. UH, DO YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. I THINK BEFORE WE, WE, I MEAN WE'VE MOVED ON ESSENTIALLY, BUT, BUT I THINK THAT THE CATEGORIES OF THAT, THAT DARREN OUTLINE, PROTECT, ADVOCATE, EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY, GROW, CONNECT WITH COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER GROUPS, AND ENGAGE EVEN WHAT, WHAT THAT HELPED PEOPLE ON THE BOARD ON THIS COMMITTEE DO, WAS TO IDENTIFY THE AREAS THAT THEY FELT THEY HAD SOME STRENGTH IN. AND SO, DIANE, WHO'S NOT HERE, SHE'S DEFINITELY VERY INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY ISSUES ANYWAY, THROUGH ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT SHE DOES. AND SHE AND DAR AND UH, AND TARYN CAME UP WITH SOME GREAT IDEAS. THEY DID GET TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH SOME GREAT IDEAS. AS I SAY, IT WAS SO LATE IN OUR, ALL OF OUR TENURE THAT THEY DIDN'T REALLY GET GOING. BUT THERE WERE SOME EVENTS THEY CAME UP WITH. AND THAT'S NOT MY INTEREST OR MY STRONG POINT, BUT THE TWO OF THEM WERE VERY MUCH CONNECTED TO THAT CONCEPT.
AND THEN THE GROW, THE, UM, CONNECTING WITH THE TREE PLANTING AND COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER GROUPS, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I'M INVOLVED WITH RELIEF MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. SO THAT WAS A NATURAL THING. SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, I THINK THAT THIS IS SORT OF AN OUTLINE OF WHAT WE ALL NEED TO DO, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK IT'S HELPFUL TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, SAY THIS IS, THESE ARE, THESE COULD BE MY STRONG POINTS. AND YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE, A SUMMARY FROM EACH MEETING AND HOW, HOW WE COULD, TO ME, UM, THE AGENDAS CAN KIND OF HELP YOU TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED FROM ONE MEETING TO THE NEXT. BUT NEVERTHELESS, THE COMMUNICATION THAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR, IF SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT WAS AN INTERESTING POINT AND THAT, THAT YOU CAN JUST SEE RIGHT AWAY WHERE YOUR STRENGTH MIGHT BE OR YOUR INTERESTS MIGHT BE IN BEING PART OF THIS, THIS BOARD AND MAKING A DIFFERENCE. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO DO, IS TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BE HELPFUL AND USE OUR SKILLS TO, SO, SO I THINK IT'S THE, THE, IT'S NOT REALLY SO MUCH THE COMMITTEES THEMSELVES, BUT THE CONCEPTS THAT WERE OUTLINED THAT I THINK PRETTY MUCH EXPRESSES WHAT WE, WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT AND DOING ON THIS COMMITTEE. MM-HMM . NOT THAT WE HAVE TO BE PART OF ANY ONE THING, BUT IT, I THINK IT'S A HELPFUL OUTLINE OF WHAT YOU KNOW, OF HOW, HOW WE CAN NAVIGATE MM-HMM . SO THESE, THE PROTECT, GROW, ENGAGE ARE THE THREE THEMES [01:10:01] OF THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN. SO YEAH, I CONFIRMING THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE. THAT THAT'S WHY THEY, UM, STRUCTURE THOSE LIKE THAT MM-HMM . THAT THOSE ARE THE THREE MAJOR THEMES OF THE, THE PLANS. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMITTEE COMMENTS? UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I, I REALLY, UM, I'M SORRY, I CAN'T, I DON'T, I'M STILL LEARNING EVERYONE'S NAMES. ERIC. ERIC, THE IDEA THAT YOU HAD ABOUT OUTLINING IN GENERAL THE PRINCIPLES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE REFLECTED IN EVERY CITY PROJECT IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY.
NATIVE PLANTS, ORNAMENTAL FOR STREET TREES, UM, SITE CONDITION SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, ALL THE, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THE DIFFERENT PARAMETERS AS A GENERAL SORT OF GUIDE TO MAKE SURE YOU CHECK ALL THESE BOXES FIRST AND THEN BRING US THE PLAN AFTER YOU'VE ALREADY PUT ALL THESE CONSIDERATIONS INTO IT. THAT WOULD HELP I THINK, CITY STAFF, BECAUSE THEY WOULD ALREADY KNOW, EXCEPT FOR SOME SPECIFIC LITTLE DETAILS. THEY WOULD GENERALLY KNOW WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR. AND THEN, UM, WE, IT WOULD SHORTCUT THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO DESCRIBING ALL OF THOSE THINGS BECAUSE THEY WOULD ALREADY HAVE THAT FROM THE BEGINNING. SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GREAT IDEA. MM-HMM . I AGREE THAT THAT IS A GREAT IDEA. IS THAT SOMETHING WE SHOULD PUT ON A MEETING AGENDA? YES, FOR SURE. WHEN WE CONTINUE THIS ITEM, UM, I'LL DO MY BEST TO SUMMARIZE IN THE MINUTES, OF COURSE, WHAT WE'VE HEARD, BUT ALSO, UH, MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, ON WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT, UH, FOR FURTHER DISCUSSIONS. GREAT DISCUSSION. I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT, UM, CONTINUE AND, UM, I THINK IT, IT'S GOING SOMEWHERE REALLY GREAT , SO YEAH. WE'LL, WE'LL DEFINITELY ADD THE OPTION FOR SUN SETTING THE EXISTING OR REVISIONS, SAME THING, YOU KNOW, UH, AND THEN WE'LL ADD, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF OPTIONS FOR, UH, DISCUSSION TO HELP YOU BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT. I'D LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE. GO AHEAD. SO ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I INITIALLY THOUGHT I WASN'T EXPECTING TO, TO PROVIDE A LIST OF TREES THAT WE THOUGHT SHOULD BE, UM, CONSIDERED, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANYONE'S GONNA BE TAKING RECOMMENDATIONS FROM US ABOUT LOOKING INTO URBAN FOREST CONCEPTS OR ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW ABOUT. AND THAT WAS WHY I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO, IT'S LIKE, DON'T EXPECT THEM TO DO THEIR HOMEWORK. IT WAS LIKE ART ON INCUMBENT ON US TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THAT.
SO I FELT LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN HIM A, I MEAN, WE ALL AGREE IN GENERAL WITH WHAT WE ALL CAME UP WITH, BUT I FELT LIKE IT WAS JUST, IT COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE CONCISE AND WE'D HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER WHAT WE RECOMMENDED IF IT WEREN'T DONE THE WAY IT WAS TODAY IN THE, IN THE BEGINNING I FELT IT WAS JUST TOO SCATTERED AND HE'S THERE SAYING, YOU KNOW, EXACTLY WHAT WE SHOULD DO. AND I WASN'T, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE ELSE WAS PREPARED TO GO DOWN THE LIST AND SAY, WELL, I LIKE THIS, OR I LIKE THAT. BUT IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T GIVE SOMEBODY LIKE HIM WHO'S COMING TO US, A SPECIFIC LIST OF THINGS THAT YOU WANT, I THINK IT JUST SORT OF LOSES THE IMPACT THAT WE COULD HAVE OTHERWISE. SO I'M JUST SAYING. YEAH, I AGREE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS KIND OF WONDERING, LIKE, CAN WE CREATE A TEMPLATE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND THEN THE CHAIR, THE VICE CHAIR, NOT TO, YOU KNOW, VOLUN VOLUNTEER FOR IT, YOU KNOW, CONSOL, UH, COLLATES ALL OF THOSE THINGS ONTO A PAGE, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY CAN THEN REFERENCE WHEN THEY GO BACK TO IT. AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, FURIOUSLY TAKE NOTES OR TRY TO RECALL ALL THE DIFFERENT KIND OF OPINIONS THAT WE KINDA LOBBED AT THEM. SO MAYBE I WONDER IF THAT'S AN EFFICIENCY THAT WE CAN ADD INTO THIS. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT JUST GONNA BE BJORN, IT'S GONNA BE SOME OTHER COUPLE, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITIES ARE GONNA COME UP LIKE THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN REVIEW THE AGENDA, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE CAN SAY, WE'LL HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, AND THEN AFTERWARDS THE COMMITTEE WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE FORM OF A MEMO OR WHATEVER, AND THEN THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN REFER BACK TO. AND THERE'S GONNA BE THAT CHAIN OF CUSTODY DOCUMENTATION THAT WE'RE ALL GONNA HAVE FOREVER THAT ISN'T JUST GONNA BE IN THE RECORDING OF THIS, YOU KNOW, AND WHATEVER NOTES SOMEONE MANAGED TO TAKE.
SO I THINK IT'S JUST, IT'S LIKE A RECOMMENDATION TO PROBABLY MAKE FOR LIKE IN THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE HAVE [01:15:01] A FORMAT, A FRAMEWORK THAT WE CAN PROVIDE ADVISORY, YOU KNOW, IN A DOCUMENTED WAY. UH, I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU, UH, IT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE TO HAVE THIS LIST, UH, THE LAST MEETING, BUT IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT HE WAS COMING BACK HERE THIS, THIS MONTH FOR AT LEAST THE SUGGESTIONS. SO, UH, I MADE UP MY OWN LIST IN MY, IN MY HEAD AND, AND ON MY PHONE, UH, IT WOULD'VE BEEN, AGAIN, NICE TO HAVE THIS LIST OF WHAT THEY WANT, UM, AND THEN WE COULD ADD TO IT. BUT, UH, HE NEEDED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF SUGGESTIONS TODAY SO THEY WE'RE NOT HOLDING THEM UP. YEAH. SO, YEAH. BUT I STILL, I STILL THINK THAT YEAH, THAT IT WOULD'VE BEEN BETTER TO NOT TO, TO DO IT THE WAY YOU'RE MENTIONING, I MEAN, BECAUSE IT JUST, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S JUST A VERY COMPLICATED MATTER TO, TO MAKE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND I THINK THE PEOPLE HERE ON THIS BOARD, AND MOST OF YOU KNOW A LOT MORE THAN I DO, UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE THE MORE IDEAS AND SOURCES YOU THROW AT SOMEBODY WHO'S COMING IN GOOD FAITH TO GET RECOMMENDATIONS, THE BETTER WE, THE MORE LIKELY IT IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, OH YEAH, THANK YOU. AND IT'S SIMPLE AND IT'S A, A, A SHORTER LIST MM-HMM . AND, UM, THAT, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD DO IN THE FUTURE. ANYWAY. GOOD. EVERYTHING YOU GUYS ARE SAYING MAKES TOTAL SENSE. I, I THINK THE BASIC PRINCIPLES, AND ERIC, YOU LAID 'EM OUT WHERE THOSE POINTS OF AGREEMENT ARE, IF WE PUT THAT IN A MEMO AND SAID, LOOK, THIS IS THE GENERAL PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA BE SORT OF IN BOUNDS HERE, AND THAT'S GONNA WINNOW IT DOWN TO WHAT, SEVEN OR EIGHT OPTIONS MOST OF THE TIME. RIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, AND THEN THERE'S EASIER BOUNDARIES. WE COULD PUT TOGETHER A MATRIX WHERE WE ALL JUST CHECK THE BOXES ON THE ONES WE PREFER FOR PARTICULAR THING AND MOVE ON, YOU KNOW? UH, BUT IF WE SET, IF WE LAY DOWN THOSE PRINCIPLES, I THINK IT'LL MAKE IT A LOT EASIER.
MM-HMM . SO, YEAH. YEAH. AND I, I JUST WANNA CIRCLE BACK TO THAT PART OF THE AD HOC, ARE YOU SUGGESTING AN AD HOC THAT POTENTIALLY LOOKS AT THAT? IS THAT WHAT I WAS SAYING? I DON'T THINK WE NEED A WHOLE COMMITTEE AROUND IT. I THINK WE COULD JUST MAKE AN OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UH, ITEM THAT SAYS DEVELOP A TEMPLATE ADVISORY RE YOU KNOW, SOMETHING, SOME LANGUAGE AROUND THAT, THAT THE, THAT THE TAC GENERAL FORMS, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPS A TEMPLATE FOR PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, DOCUMENTED RECOMMENDATIONS TO, UM, THE FOLKS WHO ARE SOLICITING THESE OPINIONS OR WHATEVER, FOR LACK OF A BETTER SORT OF WAY OF SAYING THAT. SOME SORT OF REGULATION FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATION. YEAH. I, YOU KNOW, A WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, IT'LL GET, LET US HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, EITHER IN THE MEETING WHERE BEFOREHAND TO, AND TO PROVIDE THOSE. AND THEN AFTERWARDS WE WILL THEN FORM THAT INTO THE RECOMMEND RECOMMENDATION FROM THE TAC. MAYBE THE FOLLOWING MEETING WILL VOTE ON IT, AND THEN IT'LL BE FORMALIZED AND ISSUED AND HANDED OFF TO THE PERSON WHO WAS SOLICITING OUR ADVISORY OR WHATEVER. I DON'T, I, I MEAN MAYBE IT NEEDS A COMMITTEE FOR IT. I HOPE NOT, BUT I, YOU KNOW, MY, I WANNA REDIRECT US BACK TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE. OKAY. UH, DISCUSSION. YEP. AND IF WE WANT TO AGENDIZE A DISCUSSION JUST FOR THAT, I THINK IT'S GREAT. WE CAN DEFINITELY ADD THAT AS HOW DO WE AS A TECH WANT TO, UM, HELP FOLKS THAT ARE COMING TO US TO ASK FOR ADVICE, UH, MAKE IT A LITTLE QUICKER FOR THEM. CERTAINLY. I UNDERSTAND FROM BJORN AND FROM, UH, PAST MEETINGS AS WELL, WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, ADVICE FROM THE COMMITTEE, UH, RIGHT THEN, AND NOT A LONGER DRAWN OUT. 'CAUSE THESE PROJECTS, THIS ONE HAD TIME, A FEATURE PROJECT MAY NOT HAVE AS MUCH TIME. SO WE WANNA HAVE A VEHICLE FOR THAT. AND I WOULD RECOMMEND IZING THAT FOR, UM, A, A SEPARATE TOPIC. UH, I WOULD SECOND THAT SAME MOTION. ALRIGHT, COOL. MM-HMM. AND THEN SHARE, I JUST WANNA DIRECT, DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION, UH, TO OUR TIME. YEAH.
THANK YOU. I, I'VE BEEN WATCHING OUTTA THE CORNER OF MY EYE. THANK YOU. SAME . UM, OKAY. WELL, UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GONNA MAKE, UH, AT LEAST HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS, THE NEXT MEETING AS WELL AS WE'RE ADDING THAT OTHER, UH, TO THE AGENDA. SO, [STAFF COMMENT] UH, JEN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE STAFF TO PROVIDE? ARE WE MOVING ON TO STAFF COMMENTS? MM-HMM . OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP WITH, UM, CHAIR SANCHEZ TO, UM, THANK OUR PARTNERS AT RELIEF AND DAILY ACTS, [01:20:01] AS WELL AS ALL OF THE OTHER PARTNERS THE CITY HAS. UM, UH, WE HAVE SUCH A VALUABLE RESOURCE WITH OUR PARTNERS THAT ARE ABLE TO FOCUS AND HELP US AND LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT, UM, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 24TH IS THE, UH, RELIEF EAST SIDE CONNECTOR TRAIL, UH, PLANTING DAY AT TULARE STREET AND CASTLE DRIVE. THERE'S GONNA BE 48 SEED SEEDLINGS PLANTED, AND IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO RELIEF TO GET INVOLVED. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING, I THINK IT'S THE FOLLOWING, THE SEVENTH, UH, RELIEF WILL BE AT MEADOWVIEW LANDSCAPE ASSESSMENT DISTRICT, UM, AND THEIR PLANTING 21 SHADE TREES. AND OF COURSE, YOU CAN ALWAYS CHECK OUT THEIR WEBSITE. THEY HAVE A FULL LIST. UM, THIS LIST IS SUPPORTING A GRANT, A TREE CANOPY GRANT THAT THE CITY HAS, UH, WITH THE, UH, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND RELIEF IS ONE OF OUR PARTNERS. AND THEY'VE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US, UH, UH, GET THE TREES PLANTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THIS GRANT. SO, UH, ANY SUPPORT YOU CAN GIVE THEM BY COMING OUT OR CHECKING OUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING, UM, DEFINITELY FEEL FREE AND I'M HAPPY TO BRING THOSE UPDATES AS THEY, AS THINGS ARE GOING ON RELATED TO TREES TO THIS COMMITTEE. UM, AS FAR AS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY STAFF, WE ARE, UH, BUSY LOOKING AT TREES THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE TRIMMED AND, UH, KEEPING AN EYE ON OUR CANOPY, UH, REPAIRING THINGS NEAR DRAINAGE SYSTEMS AND LITTLE BRIDGE REPAIRS HERE AND THERE. AND, UH, DOING QUITE A LOT OF WORK RELATED TO THAT. UM, SO, AND THAT IS MY UPDATE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE CHAIR IF YOU'D LIKE TO HOP BACK TO COMMITTEE COMMENT, OR DID I MISS THAT? OR IF YOU WANNA, IF WE DO COMMITTEE COMMENT TO, UH, IF WE WANNA MAKE IT SHORT, SHORTER . SURE. I, I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING THE COMMITTEE COMMENTS, SO, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMITTEE COMMENTS? WELL, I THINK DAILY X IS ALSO DOING A PLANTING AT CASA GRANDE HIGH SCHOOL ON SATURDAY AS WELL. AWESOME. . OKAY. WELL, UH, THANK YOU JEN, AND THANK YOU EVERYONE. AND WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 4:54 PM TODAY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.