City Council

* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] OKAY. [CALL TO ORDER] GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL AND PETALUMA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SUCCESSOR AGENCY FOR MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 14TH, 2026. MAY WE HAVE OUR ROLL CALL, PLEASE? BARNACLE PRESENT. Cader Thompson. ABSENT TO CARLY HERE. NOW HERE, QUINT. HERE. SHRIVES, ABSENT, AND McDonnell HERE. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AND, UH, AND WE EXPECT, UH, BOTH OUR MISSING COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE JOINING US IN NO TIME. AND, UM, [CLOSED SESSION] LET'S SEE, TONIGHT WE HAVE A CLOSED SESSION AND I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO, UH, LEAD US IN ON THE, WHAT THE CLOSED SESSION ITEM IS. I'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. UM, IT'S A BIT OF A LONGISH LIST TONIGHT, SO PLEASE BEAR WITH ME. I'LL TRY TO BE EXPEDITIOUS. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CLOSED SESSION REGARDING ANTICIPATED LITIGATION AND THEN A CLOSED SESSION REGARDING EXISTING LITIGATION WITH A NUMBER OF MATTERS, WHICH I WILL LIST IN TURN. SO REGARDING ANTICIPATED LITIGATION, UM, THAT RELATES TO INITIATION OF LITIGATION UNDER PARAGRAPH FOUR OF SUBDIVISION D OF SECTION 5 4 9 5 6 0.9 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE. AND THAT'S REGARDING ONE POTENTIAL CASE. AND THEN REGARDING THE LITIGATION MATTERS, UM, THE FOR EXISTING CASES, THOUGH, THAT'S UNDER PARAGRAPH ONE OF SUBDIVISION D OF SECTION 5 4 9 5 6 0.9 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE. FIRST CASE IS LITTLE WOODS MOBILE VILLA, LLC VERSUS CITY OF PETALUMA, DANLEY FLYNN O AND, AND VARIOUS, UM, DO SONOMA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT CASE TWO SIX CV OH 4 1 54. NEXT IS LITTLE WOODS MOBILE VILLA, LLC VERSUS CITY OF PETALUMA IN SONOMA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT CASE. UM, NUMBER TWO FIVE CV OH 8 1 61. NEXT IS CAPRI MOBILE VILLA, LLC VERSUS CITY OF PETALUMA. AND THAT'S A SUPERIOR COURT CASE. ALSO. IT'S NUMBER TWO FIVE CVO 8 8 0 3. NEXT IS AGAIN, CAPRI MOBILE VILLA VERSUS CITY OF PETALUMA. THAT'S ALSO IN THE SONOMA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT CASE. UH, SUPERIOR COURT CASE. IT'S 26 CV OH OH SEVEN OH. ANOTHER CAPRI MOBILE VILLA CASE. UM, THAT'S ON APPEAL BEFORE THE NINTH CIRCUIT. IT'S CASE 26, I SHOULD SAY. THE NINTH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS. THAT'S CASE 26 DASH 5 2 0 4. IT ORIGINATED AS DISTRICT COURT CASE, 3 2 5 DASH CV DASH OH 9 0 9 6 DASH J SC. UM, NEXT IS PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND THE CITY OF PETALUMA VERSUS YOUNGSTOWN MOBILE HOME PARK, UM, LIMITED LIABILITY CORPORATION. AND DANIEL WEIS FIELD, WHICH LITTLE TYPO THERE, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT FANNIE MAE AT ALL. AND THAT'S IN SONOMA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT. IT'S CASE TWO FIVE CV 7 98. NEXT IS YOUNGSTOWN MOBILE HOME PARK, LLC VERSUS CITY OF PETALUMA. THAT'S ALSO IN SON COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT. CASE NUMBER TWO FOUR CV OH TWO FIVE OH. NEXT IS LITTLEWOODS MOBILE VILLA, LLC VERSUS CITY OF PETALUMA. THAT'S ON APPEAL TO THE CALIFORNIA COURT OF APPEAL. FIRST DISTRICT CASE, A 1 7 6 5 2 4. ORIGINATED IN THE, IN THE SONOMA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT. UH, NEXT IS LITTLE WOODS MOBILE VILLA VERSUS CITY OF PETALUMA. WE CALL THAT LITTLE WOODS TWO SONOMA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT CASE TWO FIVE CV OH 1 3 4 4. NEXT IS YOUNGSTOWN MOBILE HOME PARK VERSUS CITY OF PETALUMA. DEBORAH PARKS AT ALL REAL PARTIES AND INTEREST FRANCIS FORT. THAT'S ON APPEAL TO THE CALIFORNIA COURT OF APPEAL. FIRST DISTRICT CASE, A 1 7 4 7 1 9 ORIGINATED IN THE SONOMA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT CAP PRIMO. NEXT ONE IS CAPRI MOBILE VILLA VERSUS CITY OF PETALUMA. THAT'S IN THE SONOMA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT CASE TWO FIVE CV OH 8 3 51. AND FINALLY, LITTLE WOODS MOBILE VILLA LLC VERSUS CITY OF PETALUMA. WE CALL THAT LITTLE WOODS THREE. SONOMA COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT CASE TWO SIX CV 0 0 3 4 0. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THANK YOU. UM, THAT'S QUITE A LIST OF CASES AND AS ALWAYS, WE UM, HAVE GENERAL PUBLIC, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON AN ITEM AND, UH, WE ARE JUST GETTING TO THAT NOW. AND I'D LIKE TO RECORD SHOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER RI IS, UH, JOINED AND IS PARTICIPATING. AND, UH, SO FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THE CLOSED SESSION ITEM AND WE'RE LIMITING TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER. AND I'D LIKE TO ASK THE, THE CLERK TO WEIGH IN NOW. YES, UH, WE DO HAVE ONE PERSON JOINING US ONLINE AND WE DID RECEIVE 19 WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENTS AHEAD OF THE MEETING. UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO MY DESK AND MEMBERS OF THE, IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO, AND MEMBERS OF THE [00:05:01] PUBLIC ATTENDING ONLINE SHOULD RAISE THEIR VIRTUAL HAND. UH, THOSE ATTENDING VIA PHONE SHOULD PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE THEIR HAND IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. WE WILL HEAR IN-PERSON COMMENTS FIRST. THE MAYOR WILL CALL SPEAKERS TO THE PODIUM. AND ONCE THOSE HAVE CONCLUDED, I'LL CALL ON ANY REMOTE SPEAKERS, WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE WE DO NOT HAVE ANY REMOTE SPEAKERS. AND WE HAVE FIVE, UM, SPEAKERS TONIGHT. AND OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS, UH, CHRISTOPHE BROWN BROWN. AND TO BE FOLLOWED BY JODY JOHNSON. MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER BROWN. AS THE MARRIAGE HAS ANNOUNCED, UH, I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT, UH, LITTLE WOODS AND ALL THESE MOBILE HOME PARKS. UM, AND I'M APOLOGIZING RIGHT NOW IF I SOUND A LITTLE HARSH. AND I'M NOT MEAN TO BE, AND I'M NOT DIRECTING IT AT YOU PERSONALLY, BUT MY FEELINGS ARE, ARE ARE SERIOUS RIGHT NOW. I WATCHED LAST WEEK, I WATCHED A MOTHER WITH A CHILD THAT WAS BARELY ABLE TO WALK AS SHE CARRIED THE CHILD. AND, UH, HER LITTLE DAUGHTER, SHE LIVES IN LITTLE WOODS AND HAS NO PLACE TO PARK. I WATCHED HER AT 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT WALKING DOWN THE ROAD WITH HER KIDS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SHE'S ABLE TO WALK. THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING, BUT WHY SHOULD SHE HAVE WALK WHEN SHE HAS A PLACE? AND THERE'S A WHOLE PARKING LOT THAT THEY STOLE FROM US. AND WHEN I SAY STOLE, YES, THEY OWN THE LAND, BUT WE'VE HAD THAT FOREVER. AND THEN WHEN THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR WAY AT THE FIRST ARBITRATION, THEY PUT UP A FENCE AND THEY DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE COUNTY CHANNELS TO GET IT. IT ANGERS ME. I DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO PARK, BUT I'LL FORFEIT MINE IF SHE CAN HAVE A PLACE AT HER PLACE AT HER HOME TO PARK. IT'S PSYCHOLOGICAL TERRORISM. THERE'S MANY SENIORS IN HERE THAT HAVE TO RELY ON OTHERS, AND THE OTHERS ARE BEING TOLD. PEOPLE SHOWING UP TO PICK UP SOMEBODY TO TAKE THEM TO THE STORE OR SOMETHING. THE MANAGEMENT SHOWS UP AND TELLS THEM THEY CAN'T BE PARKED THERE EVEN TO HELP, EVEN TO HELP THEM UNLOAD GROCERIES. RIGHT? THIS IS JUST, I FEEL THAT HARMONY COMMUNITIES AND ANYBODY WHO OWNS THE LAND AND THE PROPERTY, THEY DESERVE THEIR FAIR RETURNS. YES. BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO WALK ON PEOPLE. THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK TO PEOPLE THE WAY THEY DO. TREAT THE PEOPLE THE WAY THEY DO. BREAK THE LAW WITH IMPUNITY. IF I GET BEHIND THE WHEEL OF MY VEHICLE AND I LEAVE THIS PLACE AND I AM SPEEDING, AND I GET A TICKET THAT'S GONNA COST ME AT LEAST $500, PROBABLY MORE LIKE 800, RIGHT? AND I'M GONNA HAVE SOMETHING ON MY RECORD, MY INSURANCE IS GONNA GO UP. THESE GUYS VIOLATE THINGS AND IT DOESN'T STOP 'EM. AND THE TRUTH IS, IS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE IF, IF, IF THE FINANCES WILL STOP 'EM, BECAUSE THEY JUST KEEP ON, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'VE DUMPED INTO THESE ARBITRATIONS, RIGHT? BUT THEY'VE DUMPED A LOT OF MONEY INTO 'EM AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THEY, THEY JUST GONNA KEEP ON DOING IT. THANK YOU FOR HEARING MY READ. THANK YOU. JODI JOHNSON SHOULD BE FOLLOWED BY JENNIFER BOYLE. SO, UM, I HAVE NOT SPOKEN IN A LONG TIME AND ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS WAS WHAT THEY DID TO ME, WHICH WAS HATEFUL AND FULL OF LIES. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I CARED ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE DOING TO THE RESIDENTS. UH, THIS IS CLEARLY SENIOR ABUSE AND ABUSE IN OUR OTHER PARKS. SO TODAY, AS YOU GO INTO CLOSED DOOR SESSION, I KNOW YOU KNOW ALL THIS. WE'VE BEEN WITH YOU A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. AND AGAIN, JUST LIKE CHRIS SAID, WE'RE NOT SPEAKING TO YOU. WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST GIVING OUR EMOTIONS OUT THERE ON PUBLIC COMMENT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE REALLY SEE THE REALITY OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. I WISH TO TAKE THIS TIME TO REMIND ALL THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE FACED AND WHAT WE CONTINUE TO FACE. WEAPONIZATION OF ARBITRATIONS, CLOSURE THREATS, PARK STATUS CHANGE, SENIOR CITIZEN ABUSE IN SO MANY WAYS. COUPLE THAT WITH EXTORTION ATTEMPTS [00:10:01] SMEAR CAMPAIGNS TO THE DOORS OF RESIDENTS, WHICH IS IRONIC 'CAUSE THE SAME PEOPLE ARE SMEARING OTHER PEOPLE AND THEY'RE SAYING THAT PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE DOING THAT. AND ONE INTENTION WAS TO GET THEM TO SUBMIT US TO SUBMIT LIES OUTRIGHT FRAUD AND NOTABLY LARGE INVESTMENT GROUPS, WEAPONIZING MANAGEMENT INTO BREAKING THE LAW WITH THEM ABUSING THE RSO. CONSEQUENCES MATTER. YOU'VE BEEN COURAGEOUS AND HAVE BEEN A BEACON OF HOPE FOR THE VULNERABLE FOR THE SENIORS WHO ARE YOUR CONSTITUENTS. WE DARE TO SAY THAT I BELIEVE YOU ALL RAN AND WERE ELECTED TO DO THIS TYPE OF CIVIL SERVICE THAT, OF A MORAL COMPASS PROTECTION FOR THE MARGINALIZED TONIGHT. MY HOPE IS THAT YOU CONTINUE STANDING UP FOR THE TRUTH AND THE FACTS, SEEING THE INTENT OF EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE CRAZY LITIGATIONS ENFORCING THE SENIOR PARK OVERLAY AND MAINTAINING HUMANITY. UNLAWFUL BUSINESS PRACTICES HAVE BEEN PROVEN. THEY WERE PROVEN IN OUR TRIAL. UNCHECKED CONTROL OVER THE SENIORS IS A RECIPE FOR ISOLATION, DEPRESSION, AND WORSE, OUR SENIORS ARE LITERALLY DYING. WE'VE LOST SO MANY BECAUSE BEFORE THERE'S ANY REMEDY, THEY DIE WITHOUT REMEDY. PLEASE CONTINUE THIS FIGHT WITH OUR SENIORS AND VULNERABLE RESIDENTS. HUMANITY HAS TO WIN THE DAY. WE VALUE YOUR DEEP COMMITMENT TO THIS CITY. PERSONALLY, I HAVE SUFFERED NOW A HEART ATTACK, FOUR SMALL LITTLE STROKES. AND I HAVE ACTUALLY SUFFERED IN SILENCE BECAUSE I ONLY CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THE RESIDENTS. IT IS NOT ABOUT ONE PERSON THEY TRIED TO CLAIM IT IS, IT'S ABOUT ALL OF US RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STATE. WE'RE ACTUALLY BEING LOOKED AT FROM THE OTHER RESIDENTS. AND WE ARE SHOWING THEM THE PATH THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT PEOPLE OF WEALTH, WE ARE PEOPLE OF VALUE AND WE DESERVE TO BE PROTECTED. THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING. THANK YOU JENNIFER BOYLE TO BE FOLLOWED BY TIM PORTUS. HI EVERYONE. IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK, BUT I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE THAT SOMETHING, UM, I'D LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO KNOW. GOT TO YOUR ATTENTION, UM, THAT I WROTE. AND I WAS JUST REFLECTING TODAY ABOUT WHEN I FIRST MOVED INTO YOUNGSTOWN. FIRST I RENTED, UM, A HOME THERE. AND, UM, IT WAS JUST, I WAS TOLD THAT I WAS THE ONLY RENTER THERE. UM, AND THEY WANTED ME SO BAD TO MOVE IN THE, THE PRIOR MANAGEMENT, OUR OWNER AND THE MANAGEMENT. AND ONCE I WAS THERE, I GOT THE BIGGEST SURPRISE AFTER LIVING THERE FOR ONE YEAR. AND IT WAS, THEY JACKED UP THE RENT. THEY, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING WAS JUST LIKE, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU TOLD ME WHEN I FIRST CAME IN. AND, UM, I WANTED TO GET THE HECK OUT OF YOUNGSTOWN. AND THEN, UH, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY THE HOME THAT I'M LIVING IN NOW, AND IT WAS REASONABLE AND I COULD AFFORD IT. AND THAT'S WHEN I STARTED TO REALIZE THAT THE MANAGEMENT, AND I'LL JUST NAME HER, DEBBIE SETZER, LIED TO ME AND PUT ME IN A POSITION WHERE, UM, IT, IT KIND OF STARTED THEN. BUT I, I'VE LIVED THERE NOW FOR 15 YEARS. I'VE LIVED IN PETALUMA FOR 40, 42, 44 YEARS. SO, UM, WHEN I GOT THE HOME THAT I COULD AFFORD AND I CURRENTLY LIVE IN, I I FELT LIKE THIS IS GREAT. I BOUGHT IT FROM THE, UM, ORIGINAL OWNER. AND WHEN I'M LOSING MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT HERE, UM, OH, I REMEMBER MY MOM SAYING TO ME, AND LIKE, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I ASKED MY MOM, SHE ASKED ME, ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING? AND I SAID, MOM, IT'S A NO BRAINER. LITTLE DID I KNOW BECAUSE I COULD AFFORD IT. IT WAS A CLEAN DEAL. AND IT WAS LIKE, REALLY? AND WHEN, UM, WEISS FIELD AND FRIENDS CAME IN, UM, AND CHANGED EVERY MY WORLD, I, I JUST, I, I RESENT THIS, BUT I AM SO GLAD THAT MOST OF YOU ARE BEHIND US. I BELIEVE I, [00:15:01] I LIKE TO BELIEVE EVERYONE'S BEHIND US ON THIS. 'CAUSE THIS ISN'T FAIR. I DIDN'T SIGN UP TO HAVE MY RETIREMENT, YOU KNOW, WORRIED ALL THE TIME FOR THESE CRAZIES. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE. THEY WANNA BLEED EVERYBODY DRY. THEY'RE GREEDY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU TIM PORTUS TO BE FOLLOWED BY TINA YOUNGERS. YOKER, THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH A LIE GIVEN BY DEBBIE SETZER AT THE LAST TRIAL STATING THAT SHE BROUGHT IN, OR THE PEOPLE THAT BROUGHT IN THE YOUNG PEOPLE UNDER 55 CREATED JOY AND HAPPINESS. WHAT A CROCK WE'RE SUFFERING AS A GROUP, AS A GROUP OF PEOPLE. IT'S LIKE BEING AT A WAGON TRAIN. THAT'S HOW IT FEELS. THERE'S NOWHERE TO GO. I KNOW I CAN'T RUN. I'M GETTING SICK LATELY, AND I DIDN'T GET SICK FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS. NOT EVEN A FLU. BUT THIS IS HAPPENING STILL WITH THE DEPRESSION, STILL WITH THE ANXIETY. IT'S, IT'S IMPOSSIBLY DIFFICULT. THIS TREATMENT HAS BEEN OUT OF HAND AND YOU GUYS HAVE DONE SO MUCH. YOU HAVE SEEN, YOU HAVE HAD TO WATCH AND SOMETIMES YOU COULDN'T, YOU COULDN'T DO A, A THING. BUT YOU ARE, YOU ARE MOVING, YOU ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTIONS. AND WE NEED THIS. WE NEED YOU. ALL THESE THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING FOR US ARE REALLY APPRECIATED. ALL THESE THINGS, YOU GUYS ARE BEING ATTACKED AND I HOPE YOU'RE GROWING THE BEST OF TURTLE SHELLS. SO THIS STUFF IS JUST ROLLING DOWN YOUR BACKS LIKE NOTHING, BECAUSE IT IS NOTHING. THESE WORDS, THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE THROWING THINGS AT YOU, THEY ARE AFRAID OF YOU BECAUSE YOU DO, YOU DO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HAVE SOME POWER TO SLOW, POSSIBLY STOP THESE NASTY THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING TO US. NONE OF US WENT OUT TO DO SOMETHING THAT HAS THIS CRAZINESS AT US. I KNOW THAT IF I WAS TO GO OUT AND JAYWALK, I'D GET A TICKET, BUT THESE GUYS FACE YOUR LAWS AND JUST, I CAN'T DO IT. BUT THEY JUST DO THAT TO YOU AND THEY DON'T CARE. THEY'RE WALKING ON YOU. THEY STARTED OUT WITH THE THREAT FROM THE FIRST ARBITRATION. WE'LL BREAK YOU ALL. THIS IS INSANITY. I TRULY HOPE THAT YOU GUYS DO BAND TOGETHER, HANG ONTO EACH OTHER, HANG ONTO US BECAUSE WE WANT TO HANG ON TO YOU TRULY. I WILL. THANK YOU. UM, LET'S, UH, HAVE THE RECORD SHOW THAT, UH, COUNCILWOMAN Cader Thompson HAS JOINED OUR MEETING FOR THE EVENING. AND, UH, LAST SPEAKER WOULD BE IN FROM THE ROOM WOULD BE TINA Y GOOD EVENING. WELL, I'M ANOTHER ONE OF THE RESIDENTS OF YOUNGSTOWN . AND IT, IT DOES, IT MAKES ME NERVOUS WHEN I HAVE TO COME UP AND TALK TO PEOPLE. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR LIFE EXPERIENCES OR WHATEVER, RIGHT? WELL, I MOVED INTO YOUNGSTOWN ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO AND REALLY WHY? BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR WHEN I COULD STOP WORKING AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING MUCH BUT MY SOCIAL SECURITY. SO HOW WAS I GONNA DO THAT? WELL, THAT WAS THE PERFECT SOLUTION. RENT WAS VERY REASONABLE FOR THE GROUND RENT AND THIS WOULD WORK OUT PRETTY WELL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT SO MANY OTHER EXPENSES IN LIFE, IT'S JUST, RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S RIDICULOUS BETWEEN YOUR INSURANCE, FOOD AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF. SO ANYWAY, IT TURNS OUT THAT IT'S BECOMING NOT AFFORDABLE. IF WE GO ALONG WITH WHAT THE LARGE INVESTMENT CORPORATIONS WOULD LIKE TO DO, IT BECOMES NOT AFFORDABLE. AND IF THEY CAN CONTINUE TO SELL TO YOUNG FAMILIES, AND I UNDERSTAND YOUNG FAMILIES WANT THAT HOUSING AS WELL, BUT THEY CAN AFFORD IT BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT USUALLY TWO INCOMES COMING IN AND THEY CAN DO IT. BUT IN, IN INTEREST, I FOUND OUT, I DECIDE, WELL, I'M GONNA FIND OUT WHAT A IS GOING ON HERE [00:20:01] IN THE CITY. SO I WAS TALKING TO, UH, PEP HOUSING AND I SAID, WELL, OKAY, IF I WAS RENTING ONE OF THOSE APARTMENTS, WHAT WOULD THE RED BE? AND I THINK IT WAS LIKE 1625 A MONTH. NOW THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY STILL FOR A PERSON WHOSE SOCIAL SECURITY IS $1,900 A MONTH. AND THEN I CHECKED WITH ANOTHER ONE, WHICH IS ANOTHER SENIOR HOUSING HERE ALSO IN PETALUMA. AND I THINK THEY SAID IT WAS 1645 WOULD BE IF YOU WERE ABLE TO GET AN APARTMENT. AND, AND THESE HAVE LONG WAITING LIST. IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE GONNA GET IT TOMORROW. I MEAN, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, IF I PUT MYSELF ON THE WAITING LIST, I'D BE DEAD BEFORE I GOT AN APARTMENT THERE. BUT STILL AT 1645 OR 1625, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY. SO IT'S JUST GENERALLY TO GIVE A COMMENT AS WHAT'S HAPPENING AS FAR AS THE RENT GOES. AND IT REALLY KIND OF LEAVES THE SENIORS LIKE MYSELF IN THE DIRT OR THE DUST IF YOU PREFER. ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S OUR LAST SPEAKER FROM IN THE ROOM. AND, UM, LET'S CHECK ON THE INTERNET. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY REMOTE SPEAKERS. NO, NO HANDS RAISED IN ZOOM. SO THAT WILL CLOSE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON OUR CLOSED SESSION ITEM FOR THE EVENING. AND AT THIS POINT WE WILL ADJOURN TO CLOSED SESSION AND WE WILL RETURN HERE AT 6:00 PM OR, UM, AS WE FINISH THE BUSINESS AT HAND. SO WE ARE ADJOURNED. [CALL TO ORDER] OKAY, IT TURNS OUT, UH, WE'RE BACK AND, UH, THE RECORDING'S ALL WORKING SO WE CAN KICK RIGHT INTO THE MEETING, WHICH IS, UM, STARTS WITH ME, UM, UH, APOLOGIZING AND EXPRESSING THAT, UH, THAT, UH, WENT A LITTLE LONG AND, UH, WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE TONIGHT. UM, AT OUR, UH, REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND MENT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SUCCESSOR AGENCY FOR MONDAY, SEPTEMBER, UH, 14TH, 2026. UM, ONE NOTE, AS YOU AS YOU MAY KNOW, WE BEGAN ACCEPTING PUBLIC COMMENTS BOTH IN PERSON AND BY ZOOM. AND, UH, THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE BILL 7 0 7, WHICH IS AN UPDATE TO THE BROWN ACT. CALIFORNIA'S OPEN MEETING LAW. AND BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW PROCESS, WE DO ASK YOUR PATIENTS AS STAFF GETS USED TO THE TECHNOLOGY. AND, UH, WE WORK ON REFINING THE PROCESS, UM, PER OUR REGULAR RULES. IF YOU WISH TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. AND, AND OUR ADJOINING US IN PERSON, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD, THEY'RE LOCATED IN THE HALLWAY, AND, UM, AND, UH, BRING IT TO OUR CLERK WHO'S LOCATED HERE AT THE FRONT OF THE ROOM. AND AS PER OUR NEW PROCEDURES, IF YOU'RE JOINING US VIA ZOOM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR VIRTUAL HAND WHEN THE ITEM IS CALLED, UH, UH, OR STARTED. THOSE PARTICIPATING OVER THE PHONE AND IN ZOOM CAN RAISE YOUR HAND BY PRESSING, UH, STAR NINE. THE CLERK WILL PROVIDE THESE INSTRUCTIONS DURING EACH PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. AND PLEASE DO NOT RAISE YOUR HAND YET ON ZOOM, UH, WAIT TILL THAT ITEM IS CALLED. AND PLEASE NOTE THAT CONCURRENT TRANSLATION SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE FOR THIS MEETING IN SPANISH AND IN A VARIETY OF OTHER LANGUAGES. AND, UH, LET'S START WITH OUR ROLL CALL BARNACLE C Cader Thompson, HERE TO CARLY. HERE NOW. HERE QUINT. HERE SHRIVES HERE, McDonnell HERE. AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. ALLEGIANCE TO THE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDERGONE INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND A MOMENT OF SILENCE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. AS WE HAVE JUST COME OUT OF CLOSED SESSION, UH, IT'LL BE THIS MOMENT. I WANNA CONFIRM WITH OUR, UH, UH, ATTORNEY ABOUT THE, UM, A REPORT OUT. DO WE HAVE A REPORT OUT FROM THE CLOSED SESSION? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THERE'S NO ACTION TO REPORT OUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THAT MOVES US TO OUR [PROCLAMATIONS] PROCLAMATIONS FOR THE NIGHT AND TONIGHT IS NATIONAL. OR TONIGHT WE'RE READING FOR, UH, NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH. AND, UH, WE HAVE, WE'D LIKE TO INVITE TOM JORDAN, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGER TO THE PODIUM TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION AND INTRODUCE, UH, HIS COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND IT READS, WHEREAS NATIONAL PREPARED IN THIS MONTH HAS BEEN OBSERVED EAST SEPTEMBER THROUGH THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY'S READY CAMPAIGN SINCE 2004 TO PROMOTE FAMILY AND COMMUNITY DISASTER PLANNING [00:25:01] THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND THE YEAR 2026. THEME AMERICA STANDS READY CALLS ON PEOPLE TO PREPARE PROACTIVELY AND TO HELP THEIR COMMUNITIES BECOME RESILIENT. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF PETALUMA FACES, EARTHQUAKES, WILDFIRES, SMOKE, AND EXTREME HEAT, SEVERE STORMS, FLOODING, POWER OUTAGES, AND OTHER LARGE SCALE EMERGENCIES THAT CAN AFFECT LIVES, HOMES, BUSINESSES, INFRASTRUCTURE, AND ESSENTIAL SERVICES. AND, UH, WHEREAS PREPARED INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES, CAREGIVERS, BUSINESSES, SCHOOLS AND ORGANIZATIONS STRENGTHEN THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY WHEN THEY MAKE AND PRACTICE EMERGENCY PLANS AND MAINTAIN SUPPLIES. SUBSCRIBE TO OFFICIAL ALERTS, PLAN FOR EVACUATION AND COMMUNICATION, INCLUDING PETS AND ACCOUNT FOR ACCESS AND FUNCTIONAL NEEDS. AND WHEREAS PETALUMA'S PETALUMA ONE'S PETALUMA APPROACH RECOGNIZES THE DISASTER RESILIENCE IS A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY BUILT THROUGH COORDINATION AMONGST CITY DEPARTMENTS, FIRST RESPONDERS, REGIONAL AGENCIES, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, BUSINESSES, SCHOOLS, NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AND VOLUNTEERS. AND WHEREAS KPCA 1 0 3 0.3 FM STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS ARE STRENGTHENING PETALUMA'S COMMUNITY EMERGENCY BROADCAST CAPABILITIES, DEVELOPING TRAINED VOLUNTEER CAPACITY AND TECHNICAL RESILIENCE. SO LOCAL LOCALLY RELEVANT LIFE-SAVING INFORMATION CAN REACH THE COMMUNITY DURING EMERGENCIES. AND WHEREAS THE EMERGENCY NEIGHBORHOOD RESILIENCE GROUP AND OUR G PROGRAM IS BEING DEVELOPED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH REBUILDING TOGETHER PETALUMA AND IS BUILDING NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR CONNECTIONS IN PRACTICAL LOCAL CAPACITY. SO THE RESIDENTS ARE BETTER ABLE TO SHARE INFORMATION, IDENTIFY NEEDS, AND SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER LARGE SCALE EMERGENCIES. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT I, KEVIN McDonnell, THE MAYOR OF PETALUMA, ALONG WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER, 2026 AS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH AND IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA AND ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO LIVES, WORKS, LEARNS, WORSHIPS, AND SERVES IN PETALUMA TO MAKE AND PRACTICE AN EMERGENCY PLAN, BUILD OR REFRESH SUPPLIES, SUBSCRIBE TO OFFICIAL ALERTS AND CONNECT WITH NEIGHBORS AND LOCAL PREPAREDNESS OPPORTUNITIES. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR McDonnell AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M TOM JORDAN AND I SERVE THE CITY OF FIRE DEPARTMENT AS AN EMERGENCY MANAGER. I'D LIKE TO START OFF WITH A QUICK PLUG, UH, FOR THE 14TH ANNUAL PETALUMA COMMUNITY EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS FAIR AT SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 27TH, 11 TO THREE AT WALNUT PARK. AND AS ALWAYS, IT'S HOSTED BY THE SCOUT TROOP NINE, CPAC NINE, AND IT'S A GREAT EVENT FOR EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, FOR RECOGNIZING SEPTEMBER AS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH AND FOR RECOGNIZING THE PEOPLE AND PARTNERSHIPS THAT HELP MAKE PETALUMA MORE RESILIENT. PREPAREDNESS STARTS WITH PRACTICAL STEPS, MAKE A PLAN, GATHER SUPPLIES, SIGNING UP FOR ER EMERGENCY ALERTS, AND THINKING ABOUT HOW WE WILL COMMUNICATE AND HELP ONE ANOTHER WHEN EVERYDAY SYSTEMS ARE DISRUPTED. THESE STEPS BECOME STRONGER WHEN WE TAKE THEM TOGETHER. THAT'S WHAT ONE PETALUMA MEANS IN THIS WORK. EACH CITY DEPARTMENT, SCHOOLS, BUSINESSES, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND HOUSEHOLDS BRING KNOWLEDGE, RELATIONSHIPS, AND CAPABILITIES THAT OUR COMMUNITY MAY DEPEND ON DURING AN EMERGENCY. I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE SOME OF THOSE PARTNERS WHO ARE HERE WITH US TONIGHT. UM, I THINK JOHN SCH IS THE ONLY ONE THAT DIDN'T MAKE IT WITH SCOUT TROOP NINE, BUT WE'VE GOT A REALLY, UH, GREAT CAVALCADE. FIRST STARTING OFF WITH THE COUNTY PARTNERS FROM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENTS. WE HAVE, UH, JEFF, WE HAVE SARAH AND ERIC. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. UM, WE HAVE A FEDERAL PARTNER WITH THE COAST GUARD TRAINING CENTER, TWO ROCK AND CAPTAIN JOSHUA BIRCH. UM, THIS EVENING WE HAVE AMERICAN RED CROSS REPRESENTED, UH, BY PUM OF VOLUNTEER PAULA ROBERTS AND LELAND, WHERE DID YOU GUYS BACK GO THERE. OH, WAY OVER THERE. THANK YOU LELAND FOR THAT. UM, WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS ACTIVE IN DISASTER. ELAINE TOLE. UH, THANK YOU FOR MAKING PREPAREDNESS PART OF YOUR WORK AND FOR HELPING US REACH PEOPLE THROUGH RELATIONSHIPS THAT THEY ALREADY KNOW AND TRUST. I ALSO WANNA RECOGNIZE KPCA ONE OF 3.3 FM STAFF MEMBERS AND VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT. ANDY, AIDEN, GARRETT, UH, MICHAEL, AND OF COURSE RADIO ROB. THEIR WORK STRENGTHENS COMMUNITY EMERGENCY BROADCASTING TO CONNECT A FAMILIAR LOCAL VOICE WITH ESSENTIAL NEED, HELPING PEOPLE RECEIVE TIMELY, LOCALLY RELEVANT INFORMATION WHEN THEY NEED IT MOST. AND OUR PARTNERS FROM REBUILDING TOGETHER PETALUMA BRING DECADES OF EXPERIENCE HELPING NEIGHBORS, STRENGTHENING HOMES, AND SUPPORTING PEOPLE WHO MAKE THIS COMMUNITY WHAT IT IS. WE APPRECIATE THEIR PARTNERSHIP IN DEVELOPING THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESILIENCE GROUP PROGRAM. THIS EVENING, RTP IS REPRESENTED BY DRAKE CUNNINGHAM AND MEGAN KELLY. FINALLY, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESILIENCE GROUP AND RG PLANNING TEAM. TIM THOMPSON, JOHN VERNON, GOLDIE CURRY [00:30:01] MARSHALL. NOW STEVEN MORRIS, NRG PLANNING TEAM. FOUNDING MEMBER JIM REUTERS IS UNAVAILABLE TO JOIN US TONIGHT BECAUSE HE'S TRAVELING OUTSIDE THE COUNTY, BUT I WANNA RECOGNIZE HIS CONTRIBUTIONS ALONGSIDE THOSE OF THE TEAM HERE THIS EVENING. THE NG PLANNING TEAM HAS BEEN MEETING AND WORKING TOGETHER FOR MORE THAN A YEAR TO SHAPE A PROGRAM THAT FITS PETALUMA, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, OUR RELATIONSHIPS, AND THE WAY PEOPLE HERE ALREADY LOOK OUT FOR ONE ANOTHER THAT BUILDS ON MANY MORE YEARS OF WORK IN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS, BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER, EARNING TRUST, AND BUILDING THE CONNECTIONS THAT BECOME ESPECIALLY VALUABLE WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG. THE EMERGING ENERGY PROGRAM CARRIES THAT EXPERIENCE FORWARD, HELPING NEIGHBORS SHARE INFORMATION, RECOGNIZE NEEDS, AND SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER LOCAL EMERGENCIES OR REGIONAL DISASTERS. UH, THANK YOU ALL OF YOU, UH, FOR YOUR TIME AND WHAT YOU DO FOR THE COMMUNITY. YOU ARE HELPING TURN PREPAREDNESS IN SOMETHING PEOPLE PRACTICE TOGETHER RIGHT WHERE THEY LIVE. AND THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR RECOGNIZING THEIR WORK. THANK YOU ALL. OUR NEXT PRO, UH, PROCLAMATION TONIGHT IS FOR, UH, LATINO, A EX HERITAGE MONTH. AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE FORWARD HERMAN G HERNANDEZ, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF LOS CEN, UH, AND FRIENDS TO THE, UH, PODIUM TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION WHICH READS, WHEREAS THE CITY OF PETALUMA RECOGNIZES LATINO, A EX HERITAGE MONTH BY HONORING THE HISTORIES, CULTURES, AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHOSE ANCESTORS CAME FROM MEXICO, THE CARIBBEAN, AND THE CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF PETALUMA IS COMMITTED TO CONTINUE BUILDING A WELCOMING NEIGHBORLY COMMUNITY, EMBRACING DIVERSITY AND FOSTERING EQUITY FOR EVERY RESIDENT. AND WHEREAS MORE THAN 22% OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA'S POPULATION IDENTIFIES AS HISPANIC OR LATIN AMERICAN, OR SPAN SPANISH IS THE SECOND MOST SPOKEN LANGUAGE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND 35% OF THE STUDENT POPULATION IN THE PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS DISTRICT IS LATINO, A A EX. AND WHEREAS MORE THAN 62 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES IDENTIFY AS HISPANIC OR LATIN AMERICAN REPRESENTING OVER 18% OF THE POPULATION NATIONWIDE, LATIN AMERICANS CONTINUE TO ENRICH OUR NATION'S CHARACTER, SHAPE OUR COMMON FUTURE, AND STRENGTHEN AMERICA'S PROMISE. AND WHEREAS LA LATINO, A EX HERITAGE MONTH WHOSE ROOTS GO BACK TO 1968 BEGINS EACH YEAR ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, THE ANNIVERSARY OF INDEPENDENCE OF THE FIVE LATIN AMERICAN COUNTRIES, COSTA RICA, EL SALVADOR, GUATEMALA, AND NICARAGUA AND HONDURAS. AND WHEREAS MEXICO AND CHILE ALSO CELEBRATE THEIR INDEPENDENCE DURING HERITAGE MONTH ON SEPTEMBER 16TH AND 18TH RESPECTIVELY. AND WHEREAS NATIONAL LATINO, A EX HERITAGE MONTH IS OBSERVED FROM SEPTEMBER 15TH TO OCTOBER 15TH TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY HISPANIC AND LATIN AMERICANS IN THE UNITED STATES AND CELEBRATE THEIR HERITAGE AND CULTURE. WHEREAS FOSTERING A WELCOMING, WELCOMING ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL INDIVIDUALS REGARDLESS OF RACE, ETHNICITY, OR PLACE OF ORIGIN, ENHANCES PETALUMA'S, CULTURAL, ECONOMIC, AND GLOBAL COMPETITIVENESS AND OVERALL PROSPERITY FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS. NOW THEREFORE HIT RESOLVED THAT I, KEVIN McDonnell, MAYOR OF PETALUMA, ALONG WITH ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY PROCLAIM LATINO, A EX HERITAGE MONTH IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA AND ENCOURAGE CITIZENS TO AND RESIDENTS TO SHARE IN THIS SPECIAL ANNUAL TRIBUTE THROUGH PARTICIPATION IN THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE AND OTHER COMMUNITY EVENTS TO LEARN ABOUT AND CELEBRATE GENERATIONS OF HISPANIC AND LATIN AMERICANS WHO HAVE POSITIVELY INFLUENCED AND ENRICHED OUR NATION AND SOCIETY. THANK YOU. THANK, I JUST WANT TO THANK MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER, AND, UH, CITY STAFF AND GUESTS IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY. UM, AND JUST APPRECIATE THE CITY OF PETALUMA FOR THE PROCLAMATION TO HELP KICK OFF HISPANIC AND LATIN HERITAGE MONTH. UH, WE'RE VERY EXCITED, UM, TO BE HERE TODAY AND HONORED TO BE RECEIVING THE PROCLAMATION, UM, MI MEXICO, [00:35:01] SALVADOR, EL SALVADOR. AND OUR HERITAGE STARTED WAY BEFORE 19, UH, 60 NUMBER MR. MAYOR. UM, JUST RESPECTFULLY. BUT, UM, WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS ROOM WHO ARE REALLY UPLIFTING AND INVESTING INTO OUR, UH, COMMUNITY HERE IN PETALUMA. UM, I MEAN, THERE'S NORTH BAY ORGANIZING PROJECT WHO I, I DIDN'T KNOW WAS GONNA BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT THEY ARE DOING INCREDIBLE WORK AND I, I'D BE REMISS TO NOT GIVE THEM A HUGE SHOUT OUT AND APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING TO REALLY UPLIFT, UM, OUR MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR LATINO LATINA COMMUNITY THAT NEEDS OUR SUPPORT THE MOST. BUT WE ALSO HAVE UGO HERE WHO'S FROM 10,000 DEGREES, WHO IS FOCUSED ON EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT AND EDUCATIONAL EXCELLENCE. A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR LATIN CULTURE AND COMMUNITY CULTURE IS TO CONTINUE OUR EDUCATION. WE ALSO HAVE, UM, ONE OF MY BOSSES, ACTUALLY AND BOARD MEMBERS OF LOS, BUT IN HIS DAY JOB, HE WORKS FOR PETALUMA HEALTH CENTER, A PLACE WHERE ANYONE, UM, CAN RECEIVE HEALTH CARE REGARDLESS OF THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS AND THEY RECEIVE IT WITH DIGNITY. AND LOS IS IN A ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO DEVELOP LEADERSHIP AND WE DO POLICY AND ADVOCACY, BUT WE'RE ALL DOING THIS TOGETHER. AND THERE'S SO MANY, UM, PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM AND ORGANIZATIONS, WE ALL HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY AND WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS. AND I APPRECIATE YOU HONORING AND RESPECTING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. UM, AND PLEASE CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THESE RESOURCES AND IN THE CULTURAL CELEBRATIONS THAT I KNOW YOU HAVE HERE IN THE CITY OF PETALUMA, UM, AND CONTINUE TO UPLIFT OUR COMMUNITY. AND YOU COULD ALWAYS COUNT ON LOS AS A PARTNER AND WE'VE APPRECIATED THE PARTNERSHIP WITH YOUR WONDERFUL CITY MANAGER, PEGGY FLYNN. AND MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AS WELL. UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, LET'S GO PARTY. LET'S, WHERE'S THE FIESTA AT ? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. HAVE A GREAT DAY. AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S A, UH, BETTER OPPORTUNITY THAN RIGHT NOW TO, UM, NOTE TO THE PUBLIC THAT THEY SHOULD ALL STOP BY THE PETALUMA, UM, HISTOR HISTORIC LIBRARY AND MUSEUM AND SEE THE EXHIBIT THERE, UH, ON THIS TOPIC, BELONGINGS WHAT WE LEAVE BEHIND AND WHAT WE TAKE WITH US, WHICH IS, UH, A LOT OF CULTURAL STORIES THAT, UH, NEEDED NEED TO BE TOLD. SO STOP BY THE MUSEUM. THIS [AGENDA CHANGES AND DELETIONS (TO CURRENT AGENDA ONLY)] BRINGS US INTO OUR, UH, REGULAR AGENDA FOR THE EVENING. AND, UM, UPFRONT, I WANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE, UH, REMOVED ITEM 12, OR WE'LL BE DOING THAT IN THIS ACTION REGARDING MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL HAZARD MITIGATION PLANS. AND WE'LL PUT THAT ONTO THE NEXT, UH, AGENDA. AND I'M LOOKING UP AND DOWN THE DI TO SEE IF ANY OTHER CHANGES TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA ARE REQUESTED. AND SEEING NONE WILL ACCEPT TONIGHT'S AGENDA BY A CLAIM AND, UM, MOVE RIGHT INTO BUSINESS. [GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT] SO THE FIRST, UM, ITEM OF BUSINESS AS ALWAYS IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. AND, UM, PER OUR REGULAR REG PROCEDURES DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, THE PUBLIC'S INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY COUNCIL'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION AND NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT ARE LIMIT ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, BUT DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES AS PER OUR NEW PROCEDURES NEW STATE LAW. UM, WE WILL NOW BE ACCEPTING PUBLIC COMMENTS VIA ZOOM, AND IF WE HAVE, UM, WE'LL BE GRANTING THAT IN EQUAL TIME TO THE PERSONS IN THE ROOM. IF WE DON'T HAVE, UH, 10 AND 10 UH, SPEAKERS AT ONE MINUTE, WE'LL BACKFILL DOWN TO MORE AND MORE TIME AND MORE AND MORE IN-HOUSE OR ZOOM, DEPENDING ON WHERE THE VOICES ARE. UM, WE WILL HEAR THE IN-PERSON COMMENTS FIRST. AND UM, I WILL CALL, UM, SPEAKERS TO THE PODIUM. AND ONCE WE'VE, UH, CONCLUDED, THEN WE'LL GO TO ZOOM AND TALK TO THE FOLKS FROM ZOOM. NOW, UM, TONIGHT, UM, UH, WE IT'S, THERE IS A LITTLE CONFUSION, UH, IN THAT, UH, SOME FOLKS WE HAVE REQUESTED TO SPEAK ABOUT NORTH BAY ANIMAL SERVICES AND, UH, WE HAVE AN ANIMAL SERVICES ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, THE ANIMAL SERVICE ITEM ON OUR AGENDA. NUMBER 17 IS NOT ABOUT NORTH BAY ANIMAL SERVICES. SO ANYTHING REGARDING NORTH BAY ANIMAL SERVICES [00:40:01] IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND HOPEFULLY AS YOU TURNED IN A CARD TO SPEAK THAT THAT WAS, UM, MADE CLEAR. UM, I DO WANNA SAY A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE DELVE INTO THE MATTER. AND, UH, THAT IS THE TONIGHT THE COUNCIL'S TAKING AN IMPORTANT STEP FORWARD BY APPROVING NEW CONTRACTS FOR BOTH ANIMAL SHELTER OPERATIONS AND FIELD SERVICES. THIS COMPLETES OUR TRANSITION AWAY FROM NORTH BAY ANIMAL SERVICES, BUT IT IS NOT THE END OF OUR WORK. WE'VE ACKNOWLEDGED WHAT WENT WRONG. WE HAVE MADE CHANGES, AND NOW WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCES, STRENGTHEN OUR OVERSIGHT, AND PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF ANIMAL SERVICES OUR COMMUNITY EXPECTS. ONE OF THE CLEAREST LESSONS FROM THE EXPERIENCE IS THE NEED FOR GREATER TRANSPARENCY AND IMMEDIATE OPTIONS FOR ENFORCEMENT. WHEN SERVICES ARE REQUIRED UNDER A CITY CONTRACTOR NOT BEING DELIVERED ASSURANCES THAT THINGS WILL GET BETTER IS NOT ENOUGH. WE NEED CLEAR REPORTING, MEASURABLE EXPECTATIONS, REGULAR OVERSIGHT AND ACTIONABILITY WHEN THOSE EXPECTATIONS AREN'T MET WITH NBAS, VACCINATIONS, ADOPTIONS, REPORTING, CENSUS, AND OTHER BASIC RESPONSIBILITIES WE'RE NOT BEING COMPLETED AS THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN. AND WHATEVER THE REASONS, THESE ARE ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND THE CITY HAS AN OBLIGATION TO BE SURE THEY'RE DELIVERED. OUR NEW CONTRACTS REFLECT WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED. THEY PROVIDE GREATER OVERSIGHT AND PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY, INCLUDING ANNUAL REVIEW. THOSE REVIEWS WILL HAPPEN PUBLICLY SO RESIDENTS CAN SEE WHAT SERVICES WE'RE WE'RE RECEIVING, HOW WELL THEY'RE BEING DELIVERED, AND WHAT PROBLEMS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND WHAT THE TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR. WE ARE ALSO MAKING SUBSTANTIALLY GREATER INVESTMENT IN ANIMAL SERVICES. WE HAD BEEN PAYING NORTH BAY ANIMAL SERVICES APPROXIMATELY $500,000 A YEAR UNDER THE NEW ARRANGEMENTS WE EXPECT TO BE SPENDING APPROXIMATELY 1.5 MILLION ANNUALLY. THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE AND WE EXPECT THAT INVESTMENT TO PRODUCE SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER SERVICE AND MOVING FORWARD DOES NOT MEAN FORGETTING WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WE HA WE HAVE HEARD THE CONCERNS FROM MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE POTENTIAL MISUSE OF FUNDS. THE CITY HAS AN AUDIT UNDERWAY ON EXAMINING THE RECORDS WITHIN OUR AUTHORITY RELATED TO NBAS AND ITS CONTRACT WITH PETALUMA IRREGULARITIES OR INFORMATION THAT SHOULD BE REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY. LAW ENFORCEMENT REGULATORS, TAXING AUTHORITIES, AND ANY OTHER APPROPRIATE AGENCIES OR INSTITUTIONS WILL BE REFERRED TO THEM. WE ARE NOT SWEEPING THIS UNDER THE RUG. WE UNDERSTAND THAT DOING BETTER GOING FORWARD MEANS ENSURING ACCOUNTABILITY FOR WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST WHERE THE CITY HAS AUTHORITY AND WE ARE AND WILL INVESTIGATE WHERE OTHER AGENCIES HAVE AUTHORITY. WE WILL PROVIDE THE INFORMATION WE HAVE AND ASK THEM TO INVESTIGATE. THE ANIMAL SERVICES PROVIDED OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS DID NOT MEET THE STANDARDS PETALUMA EXPECTS. WE ALL AGREE ON THAT. WE HAVE CHANGED PROVIDERS, WE HAVE STRENGTHENED OUR CONTRACTS, WE'RE INCREASING OUR INVESTMENT, AND WE ARE CONTINUING THE WORK OF DETERMINING WHAT HAPPENED IN ENSURING FURTHER INVESTIGATION WE'RE WARRANTED. TONIGHT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP FORWARD AND THE WORK CONTINUES. OUR COMMITMENT IS STRAIGHTFORWARD, HUMANE AND RELIABLE SERVICES FOR OUR ANIMALS, TRANSPARENCY FOR THE PUBLIC RESPONSIBILITY FOR TAXPAYER DOLLARS, AND A SYSTEM THAT EARNS AND MAINTAINS THE TRUST OF THIS COMMUNITY. SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE CLERK START THE MESSAGING FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. YES, UH, WE DO HAVE, WE DID RECEIVE 27 PUBLIC COMMENTS AHEAD OF THE MEETING AND WE HAVE 12 FOLKS JOINING US ON ZOOM. AND AT THIS TIME I WILL START AT 32ND CLOCK. DURING THESE 30 SECONDS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO. AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING ONLINE SHOULD RAISE THEIR VIRTUAL HAND. THOSE ATTENDING VIA PHONE SHOULD PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE THEIR HAND. AND SPEAKER REQUESTS THAT WE RECEIVE AFTER THIS TIME MAY NOT BE ACCOMMODATED DATED. WE HAVE 20 CARDS RECEIVED FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. AND MAY I ASK, DO WE HAVE ZOOM HANDS? WE HAVE NO ZOOM HANDS, NO ZOOM HANDS. SO ALL 20 WILL, UM, BE HEARD AND IT WILL BE ONE MINUTE PER, UH, PERSON ON THE ZOOM CARDS. AND, UM, [00:45:02] OH, I'M SORRY. WE HAVE ONE ZOOM HAND. ALRIGHT, WELL THEN WE WILL ADD THAT IN AND WE'LL STILL JUST SO I WILL NOT READ THE WHOLE LIST, I WILL READ YOUR NAME AND THE NEXT NAME AND THAT'S HOW WE'LL PROCEED THROUGH THIS. STARTING WITH JODY JOHNSON TO BE FOLLOWED BY JENNIFER BOYLE, SOME OF THE NEWEST EGREGIOUS MOBILE PARK UPDATES. CAPRI RESIDENTS HAD THEIR THIRD ARBITRATION AUGUST 28TH AND DECISION NOT TILL OCTOBER, BUT SEPTEMBER STATEMENTS SHOWED THE AMOUNT OF THE ASK AND AN INCREASING GROUND RENT UNLAWFULLY WITHOUT ANY AWARD. LITTLE WOODS WHOSE PARK OWNERS ARE TRYING TO CLOSE, BROUGHT IN NEW UNITS AND EXCLUDED RESIDENTS FROM THE CLOSURE PROCESS AFTER THEY DID A BAIT AND SWITCH IN A GROUND RENT UPON SALE, WHERE THEY CHANGED HIS CLOSED ESCROW, GROUND RENT, AND ADDED $700. YOUNGSTOWN MANAGEMENT TESTIFIED AT THE SENIOR PARK OVERLAY TRIAL AND PERJURED THEMSELVES, ALTHOUGH THE TRUTH WAS ALREADY STIPULATED THAT THEY HAD CROSSED OFF REAL ESTATE PURCHASE AGREEMENTS TO SAY YOUNGSTOWN WAS NO LONGER A SENIOR PARK. FRAUD. FRAUD, FRAUD AND MORE. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS JENNIFER BOYLE TO BE FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL V UH, VON DEPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE MOVING TO MICHAEL VON DEPORT TO BE FOLLOWED BY ELENA FELDMAN. GOOD, GOOD EVENING. I'M MIKE FONDER PORTON. I HOPE I HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT $1.8 BILLION OF LOCAL SONOMA COUNTY TAXPAYER MONEY. AND IN PARTICULAR, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT SANTA ROSA JUNIOR COLLEGE BOND A B, WHICH IS THE BIGGEST MONEY GRAB EVER AND YOU NEED TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT IT. I'VE GOT SOME HANDOUTS FOR YOU. YOU HAVE THEM IN FRONT OF YOU. THIS IS SET UP IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE WILL BE PAYING A DOLLAR 12 INTEREST ON EVERY DOLLAR BORROWED ON THE CURRENT BOND. WE PAY 34 CENTS OF INTEREST ON EVERY DOLLAR BORROWED. SO WHEN YOU WRITE A CHECK IN THE FUTURE, 51 CENTS WILL GO TO INTEREST BECAUSE THIS IS SO POORLY STRUCTURED AND WE, WE COULD GO AHEAD AND WE COULD DO $400 MILLION MORE OF PROJECTS IF THIS PROJECT WAS PROPERLY STRUCTURED. THIS IS A, A TERRIBLE MONEY GRAB. THE DECISION THEY'RE MAKING IS TO GET THE MONEY NOW RATHER THAN DO THE RIGHT THING. SO I'M GONNA ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON MEASURE AB B, SEND IT BACK TO THE SRJC BOARD. ASK THEM FOR THE RESPONSE. YOU PROGRAM VERY MUCH FOR THE COMMENTS AND BRING IT FORWARD AND, UH, MOVING FORWARD AT ONE MINUTE. IT GOES SO FAST. UM, ELENA FELDMAN TO BE FOLLOWED BY LINDA EVANS. MY NAME IS ILANA FELDMAN. I'M A 25 YEAR MEMBER OF THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY. NOT JUST A PLACE ON A MAP, BUT A COMMUNITY WITH A SHARED PULSE. ALL OF OUR LIVES AND PURPOSE INTERTWINED RIGHT NOW, OUR IMMIGRANT NEIGHBORS, THE BACKBONE OF OUR COMMUNITY, LIVING CONSTANT FEAR OF ICE, A ROGUE AGENCY WHERE DUE PROCESS VIOLATIONS AND HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES GROW DAILY. BUT PETALUMA'S HEART IS STRONG TALKING WITH OUR NEIGHBORS ABOUT OUR NON-COOPERATION WITH ICE ORDINANCE. I HAVE SEEN OUR COMMUNITY RALLY AND OVER 32 LOCAL BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS ENDORSE THIS ORDINANCE FROM LOCAL SPOTS LIKE MI PUEBLO IN THE CENTRAL MARKET TO OUR EDUCATORS, PETALUMA KUMAN MATH AND READING CENTERS TO OUR FAITH GROUP, TEMPLE BENET ISRAEL, AND THE UNITARIAN UNIVERSALISTS OF PETALUMA, WHOSE MISSION IS TO TRANSFORM THROUGH LOVE AND ACT WITH COURAGE. THIS IS A TIME TO LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS AND ACT WITH COURAGE. PLEASE PASS OUR NON-COOPERATION WITH ICE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU LINDA EVANS TO BE FOLLOWED BY UM, CALVIN ANTES. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO DELIVER A LETTER FROM THE IMMIGRATION LEGAL RESOURCE CENTER THAT WILL DETAIL SOME OF THE PARTICULAR REASONS THAT IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT YOU PASS THE NON-COOPERATION ORDINANCE. WHAT THE ATTORNEY FROM ILRC SUGGESTS IS THAT WE CALL IT A WELCOMING CITIES ORDINANCE, WHICH I APPRECIATED, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE RECOGNIZE THIS IS NOT ABOUT ADOPTING POLICIES, BUT ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTING THOSE POLICIES. AND THAT IS WHAT AN ORDINANCE WILL GIVE GUIDANCE TO THE CITY OF PETALUMA TO BE ABLE TO DO. THE ATTORNEY GENERAL GUIDELINES FOR IMPLEMENTING SB FIVE 80 HAVE BEEN ISSUED AND THIS ORDINANCE WILL ALLOW THE CITY OF PETALUMA TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT LAW. SO WE REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE THIS CALL TO ACTION FOR THE CITY OF PETALUMA NOT TO COOPERATE WITH ICE, WHICH IS A CRIMINAL [00:50:01] ORGANIZATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU CALVIN. UH, LANIS TO BE FOLLOWED BY GINA GAR GARBO. HELLO, MY NAME IS CALVIN. I'M A PETALUMA RESIDENT ONCE AGAIN ADVOCATING FOR A NON-COOPERATION ORDINANCE WITH ICE. UH, I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT ONE OF THE DOCUMENTS WE SENT TO YOU TODAY, WHICH IS A LETTER FROM NICOLE WARWICK, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF BLUE ZONE'S PETALUMA, A NONPROFIT FOCUSED ON PUBLIC HEALTH AND LONGEVITY, WHILE BLUE ZONES CANNOT TAKE A POSITION ON THE ORDINANCE. THIS LETTER HIGHLIGHTS THE PUBLIC HEALTH IMPACT OF INCREASED IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, NOTING THE INCREASED FEAR AND UNCERTAINTY BEING SEEN IN THE FAMILIES SERVED BY BLUE ZONES AND THEIR PARTNERS. THIS LETTER NOTES THAT CHRONIC FEAR AND ANXIETY ARE WELL KNOWN TO LEAD TO POOR PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH OUTCOMES. WE BELIEVE A STRONG NON-COOPERATION ORDINANCE WILL HELP ALLEVIATE FEAR AMONG THE PUBLIC BY SHOWING RESIDENTS THAT THE CITY HAS THEIR BACK. THE LETTER ALSO NOTES THE DEMAND AMONG COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS FOR PRACTICAL GUIDANCE THAT WOULD ENABLE THEM TO SERVE COMMUNITIES OF EFFECTIVELY DURING TIMES OF HEIGHTENED UNCERTAINTY. THE REQUIREMENT FOR TRAININGS AND PUBLICIZED INFORMATION IN THE DRAFT WE SUBMITTED AT THE LAST, UH, PREVIOUS MEETING WILL HELP PROVIDE THE LEADERSHIP AND SUPPORT THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE LOOKING FOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GINA GARBO, UM, TO BE FOLLOWED BY TOM CHAMBERLAIN. HI, MY NAME IS GINA GARBO. I LIVE HERE IN PETALUMA AND EVERY DAY I WORK HARD TO BUILD COMMUNITY AS PART OF MIGRANT JUSTICE IN ACTION, AN INITIATIVE WITH NORWAY ORGANIZING PROJECT. I AM AN IMMIGRANT, A BROWN WOMAN WHO WANTS TO CALL PETALUMA HOME. A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO I HAD THE HONOR TO READ THE SPANISH IN SPANISH, THE CITY PROCLAMATION THAT OUR MAJOR READ DURING THE OPENING OF AN EXHIBITION AT THE HISTORIC MACHINE OF PETALUMA ABOUT IMMIGRANT HIS STORIES. MY STORY IS THERE TOO. I REALLY ONE AND ONE YOU TO MAKE THOSE WORDS REAL. FOR EVERY IMMIGRANT HERE IN PETALUMA, I WANT YOU TO FEEL, I WANT TO FEEL THAT I CAN ALSO BELONG HERE. I WANT TO FEEL SAFE WHEN I'M WALKING ON THE STREETS AND WHEN I AM AT ANY CITY PROPERTY I NEED AND I DESERVE THAT. EVERY CITY EMPLOYEE AND CONTRACTOR KNOWS HOW TO DO WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO RESPOND TO ANY INTERACTION WITH EYES TO UPLIVE IMMIGRANT RIGHTS AND DIGNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. TOM CHAMBERLAIN TO BE FOLLOWED BY MONICA NAVARRO. GOOD EVENING. TONIGHT, I'M HERE ONCE AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY ABOUT ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL THIS TIME. RECOMMENDATION SIX, THE CITY TO ESTABLISH A PET LICENSING PLATFORM SUCH AS DOCU PET, THE CITY'S RESPONSE, THE RECOMMENDATION WILL NOT BE IMPLEMENTED FOLLOWING TIMELINE. 10 MAY GRAND JURY REPORT SUBMITTED TO THE CITY. NINE JUNE CITY EXECUTES A CONTRACT WITH MARIN HUMANE TO IMPLEMENT DOCUMENT PAT 20 JULY. COUNCIL VOTES TO REJECT RECOMMENDATION NUMBER SIX TO THE FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO VOTED TO REJECT RECOMMENDATION NUMBER SIX, PLEASE IN THE FUTURE DO YOUR HOMEWORK BETTER. TO THE TWO WHO VOTED, NO THANK YOU. YOUR STANCE SHOWN WARRANTED. THANK YOU MONICA NAVARRO TO BE FOLLOWED BY ANDREAS HAYES. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MONICA. I'M MY TEACHER AND I'M CAME HERE TO BE THE BOYS FOR THE KIDS AND ESPECIALLY FOR MY COMMUNITY AS A TEACHER, I HAVE WITNESSED THEIR FELT AND THE KIDS AT SCHOOL, UM, THEIR FELT DANCE. I FELT INSERITY OF THIS RESIDENTIAL EXPERIENCE. WHENEVER THE PARENTS DON'T HAVE RIGHT TIME, PICK THEM UP. ESPECIALLY CHILDRENS OF MY COMMUNITY. AS ADULTS, WE KNOW WE'RE HAVING THROAT DIFFICULT TIMES, SO I IMPLORE YOU TO PLEASE PUT ON THE TRUTH OF THEIR CHILDREN. WHENEVER, UM, THE SO EMPLOYEE RESIDENTIAL CHILDREN'S, SORRY. WHEREVER THERE ARE 2, 3, 5, 10, OR ANY OTHER AGE, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL THAT YOUR PARENTS CAME, NEVER CAME TO PICK YOU UP FROM SCHOOL? HOW WOULD YOU FEEL? YOUR PARENTS NEVER WERE STOPPED AT ANY TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU JUST BECAUSE THEY NEED TO GO WORK, THEY NEED TO GO TO THE STORE. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL AS A CHILD WHENEVER SAW YOUR PARENTS, SIBLINGS AND FAMILY AGAIN? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANDREW HAYES TO BE FOLLOWED BY WARREN GRAN. UH, GOOD EVENING. I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT. UH, WE'RE ENTERING DISASTER PREPARED THIS MONTH BECAUSE THE WINTER OF 26 27 WILL LIKELY BE MUCH WETTER THAN WE'VE EVER SEEN BEFORE. AN EL NINO THAT HAS SHAPED ME UP TO BE COULD EASILY CAUSE CATASTROPHIC FLOODING THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA AND SONOMA COUNTY IN PARTICULAR. PLANNING, STRATEGIZING, AND TA ACTING NOW COULD [00:55:01] MITIGATE OR MINIMIZE DAMAGE IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. OUR CITY SHOULD EMPHASIZE OUTREACH TO THOSE LIVING IN SUSCEPTIBLE AREAS. UH, MAILERS SHOULD BE SENT EXPLAINING IN, UH, PLAIN TERMS FLOOD DAMAGE, UH, RISK, AND EXPLAINING OPTIONS FOR FLOOD INSURANCE. MUNICIPAL CREWS SHOULD SURVEY WATERWAYS AND CLEAR OUT MUCH OVERGROWTH AS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE RAINS HIT. MANY PETALUMA CREEKS AND RIVERS ARE CHOKED WITH WILLOW AND BLACKBERRY, WHICH WILL GREATLY IMPEDE THE FLOW. CITIZENS SHOULD LOOK AT FEMA MAPS, WHICH ARE SEARCHABLE BY ADDRESS AND ASSESS THEIR PARTICULAR FLOOD RISK. MAKE A PLAN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU WARREN GRAN TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UM, DEXY, UH, MANGAN. UH, GOOD EVENING HONORABLE MAYOR. UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, AND DEDICATED CITY STAFF. UH, MY NAME IS WARREN GRANITE AND I'M SPEAKING THIS EVENING ON BEHALF OF THE TRESTLE PROMENADE NOW STEERING COMMITTEE. UH, THE TRESTLE PROMENADE NOW CAMPAIGN IS FOCUSED ON REHABIL REHABILITATING PETALUMA HISTORIC RIVERFRONT TRESTLE AS A SAFE, WELCOMING PUBLIC PROMENADE. THE CAMPAIGN IS LED BY A VOLUNTEER STEERING COMMITTEE WHO UNDERSTANDS THAT THE FIRST STEP TO CREATING SUCCESS IS TO CREATE A UNIFIED COMMUNITY VISION ON HOW TO TRANSFORM THIS DETERIORATED RAILROAD TRESTLE. WE WILL CREATE THIS VISION THROUGH AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY PROCESS LED BY A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED COMMUNITY CONSULTING FIRM WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY. OUR FIRST STEP HAS BEEN TO RAISE $50,000 TO SUPPORT THE VISION AND PROCESS. WE ARE PLEASED TO REPORT THAT WE HAVE MET OUR FUNDRAISING GOAL. WE UNDERSTAND THE CONTRACT WITH THE CONSULTING FIRM IS COMING BEFORE THE CITY ON SEPTEMBER 28TH. WE THINK THIS CONTRACT WILL BE WORTH YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION VERY MUCH. JESSE MONGAN SHOULD BE FOLLOWED BY SALE WHITE. MY NAME IS JESSE MONDRAGON AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE WINE COUNTRY YOUNG DEMOCRATS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF YOU ATTENDED OUR FUNDRAISER THIS SATURDAY, I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE POLICE CHIEF FOR THE DETAILED RESPONSES TO OUR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TRANSPARENCY. I'M STILL HOPING TO HEAR FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY, ATTORNEY ERIC DANLEY ABOUT SOME QUESTIONS WE HAD REGARDING THE ORDINANCE. WE HOPE TO HAVE TIME TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WILL BE MADE, TRANSLATE IT AND DISCUSS IT WITH THE COMMUNITY TO SEE IF WE FIND IT TO BE ACCEPTABLE. OUR PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD PUT IN PLACE LEGALLY MANDATED PER UH, PROCEDURES FOR HOW CITY EMPLOYEES ARE TRAINED ON POLICY SURROUNDING ICE. HOW CITY RESOURCES ARE MANAGED REQUIRES CONTRACTOR COMPLIANCE AND REQUIRES AN ANNUAL REPORT ABOUT THE INQUIRIES MADE BY ICE. THIS STRUCTURALLY COMPREHENSIVE ORDINANCE WOULD BE MORE DIFFICULT TO OR OVERTURN THAN ANY OF THE RESOLUTIONS PREVIOUSLY PASSED BY THE CITY. LASTLY, I WANTED TO SPEAK ON THE DANGER THAT ICE REPRESENTS FOR OUR DEMOCRACY. LEGITIMIZING ICE AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN CAUGHT ON CAMERA, DETAINING A POLITICAL CANDIDATE TACKLING OUR US SENATOR TERRORIZING OUR COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND EVEN MURDERING SEVERAL PEOPLE IS A VIVID REMINDER OF THE GRADUAL EROSION OF AMERICAN FREEDOMS AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. WE MUST STAND UP TO INJUSTICE. I TRUST THIS COUNCIL WILL DO THE RIGHT THING. THANK YOU. WOO. THANK YOU. SAIL WHITE TO BE FOLLOWED BY CHINELLE ROGERS. HELLO. UM, THIS COMMENT IS ABOUT THE CITY'S RESPONSE TO REQUEST FOR PUBLIC RECORDS. AND I'M GONNA KIND OF, UH, DIVERGE HERE FROM WHAT I WROTE DOWN 'CAUSE I ALSO KIND OF WANNA RESPOND TO THE MAYOR STATEMENT THAT APPARENTLY NOW NORTH ANIMAL SERVICES IS VERY MUCH UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS, WHICH THE CITY SEEMED TO NOT BE INTERESTED IN UNTIL APPROXIMATELY BETWEEN MARCH AND JULY. UM, SOME SOMETIME IN THERE. SO I'VE BEEN ACTUALLY MAKING A LOT OF REC RECORDS REQUESTS SO WE CAN FIND MORE OUT MORE ABOUT THAT. AND IN PARTICULAR, I REQUESTED THE RECORDS THAT NORTH, THE ELECTRONIC RECORDS THAT NORTH BAY ANIMAL SERVICES HAD THAT CONTAINED ALL THE ANIMAL INFORMATION AND ALL THE FINANCIAL DATA. THAT REQUEST WAS DENIED BECAUSE IT WAS CLAIMED THAT THERE WAS AN ACTIVE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION RELATED TO ALL OF THOSE RECORDS. SO THEN I MADE A REQUEST FOR THAT POLICE REPORT AND THEY, THE POLICE VERY KINDLY DID FULFILL THAT ONE REQUEST OUT OF THE SIX THAT I'VE MADE. AND THE POLICE REPORT WAS A REPORT, NOT AN ACT OF CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. WE, THE PUBLIC NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AND I NEED THOSE RECORDS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. CHANTELLE ROGERS TO BE FOLLOWED BY LINDA EVANS. GOOD EVENING. UM, SO I WAS GONE ALL SUMMER AND I NOTICED THERE WAS A LOT OF HAAL LU ABOUT THE NEW ROUNDABOUT IN, UM, ON RAINIER. UM, AND I WAS IN A PLACE THAT HAS ROUNDABOUTS AT JUST ABOUT EVERY INTERSECTION. I LOVE THEM, BUT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THAT. SO WHEN I CAME BACK, I WENT TO TAKE A LOOK, UM, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT SAID THEY HAD SPEED BUMPS. AND I HAVE NEVER EVER IN MY LIFE EXPERIENCED A SPEED, UH, A ROUNDABOUT WITH SPEED BUMPS [01:00:01] GOING INTO IT. AND SURE ENOUGH, THERE'S SPEED BUMPS OVER THERE AND THERE'S A SIGN, YOU KNOW, SAYING THAT THERE'S A SPEED BUMP COMING IN. BUT WHAT THERE IS NOT IS A SIGN SAYING THAT THERE'S A ROUNDABOUT COMING UP. THERE'S NO SIGNS ON THE RAINIER ROUNDABOUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LITTLE CIRCLE AND THEN THE REDUCED, UM, UH, SPEED LIMIT LIKE 15 OR WHATEVER. EVERY OTHER CIRCLE THAT I ENCOUNTERED IN PETALUMA HAS THAT. AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IF WE WANT PEOPLE TO GET USED TO THEM, THEY SHOULD ALL BE THE SAME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, LINDA EVANS, I THINK SPOKE. SO, UM, MOVING TO ED HINES, IT'S OUR NEXT SPEAKER TO BE FOLLOWED BY TIM PORTUS. MR. MAYOR, UH, CITY MANAGER AND COUNCIL. MY NAME'S ED HINES. I'M A LOCAL REALTOR OF 27 YEARS, AND, UM, I HAVE A MOBILE, YOU'VE, UM, YOU KNOW, AWARE OF THIS MOBILE HOME ISSUE, BUT I'M SELLING A MOBILE HOME IN CAPRI VILLA NUMBER FIVE 10. AND I HAD IT JUST SO YOU KNOW, ONE INSTANCE, I HAD A BUYER COME IN AND MAKE AN OFFER AND I SENT THIS, UH, APPLICATION IN WITH THE HELPING THE BUYER TO GET THEIR SPACE RENT. AND IT WAS 7 0 8, UH, THE RENT STABILIZATION, SO IT SHOULD STAY THE SAME. I WE GOT A RESPONSE BACK FROM, UH, UH, WHO WAS IT? UH, UH, HOLD ON A MINUTE. FROM, UH, HARMONY, EMILY HARMONY TO RAISE THE SPACE RENT TO 1495. I SENT HER A COPY OF, UH, A LETTER SAYING WE DO HAVE PLUMA RENT STABILIZATION. SO SHE CALLED BACK AND SAID, SORRY, I MADE A TYPO, BUT SCARED THE BUYER AWAY. SHE LEFT. TALK GETS AROUND TOWN AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT MAKES IT REALLY DIFFICULT. SO THANK YOU FOR THE RENT STABILIZATION ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. TIM PORT IS TO BE FOLLOWED BY GABBY ORTIZ. THANK YOU. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. YOU GUYS STILL, YOU'VE BEEN FIGHTING. YOU'VE HAD TO LISTEN TO A LOT OF STUFF IN THAT ROOM. THANK YOU. I HAVE BEEN WAITING TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. I WILL WAIT AND I WILL BE VERY GLAD TO HEAR WORDS FROM YOU. I WILL SUPPORT YOU, I WILL SUPPORT YOU. I CAN ONLY SUPPORT TWO OF YOU, BUT YOU ARE THE TWO AND THAT HULA BAH THAT HAVE BEEN THROWN AT YOU BY LIARS, EXAGGERATORS, IGNORANT PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, SOME OF THESE CRAZY ACCUSATIONS. MAN, I HOPE YOU HAVE THAT TURTLE BACK BECAUSE THEY'RE USELESS AND SOME OF THE RUNNERS AGAINST YOU. NO, I WILL DO WHATEVER I CAN. I PROMISE. THANK YOU GABBY ORTIZ TO BE FOLLOWED BY SIERRA MARANTZ TO THE HONORABLE PETALUMA CITY COUNCIL. NON-COOPERATION WITH ISIS, NOT ONLY EFFECTIVE LEADERSHIP, IT'S A MORAL IMPERATIVE. I STAND BEFORE YOU AS A PROUD DAUGHTER OF IMMIGRANTS. AN OPPORTUNITY MADE POSSIBLE BY MY MOTHER'S SACRIFICES. AND I'VE SEEN FIRSTHAND WHAT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT CAN DO TO FAMILIES. A CLOSE FRIEND OF MINE WORKS HERE IN PETALUMA AND COMMUTES EVERY DAY WHILE WORKING THREE JOBS TO SUPPORT HER FAMILY. HER FATHER WAS TARGETED BY ICE IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WHILE WORKING FOR, LOOKING FOR WORK DEPORTED AND SEPARATED FROM HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN. NOW, AS THE OLDEST CHILD, MY FRIEND CARRIES THE BURDEN OF HELPING SUPPORT AND THE FAMILY HE WAS FORCED TO LEAVE BEHIND. THIS IS NOT POLITICAL TO THEM, IT'S PERSONAL. IT'S A FATHER MISSING FROM HIS CHILDREN'S LIVES. AND A DAUGHTER FORCED TO CARRY RESPONSIBILITIES THAT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN HERS. IT'S EASY TO LOVE MEXICAN CULTURE, THE FOOD, MUSIC, TRADITIONS AND CELEBRATIONS, BUT CULTURE DOES NOT EXIST WITHOUT PEOPLE. YOU CANNOT CELEBRATE THE CULTURE WHILE TREATING THE PEOPLE WHO BUILT IT AS DISPOSABLE. IF YOU LOVE THE CULTURE, RESPECT THE PEOPLE. I URGE PETALUMA TO PROTECT IMMIGRANT FAMILIES AND ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. SIERRA MORAN TO BE FOLLOWED BY NINA ZITO. I PUT MINE IN FOR ITEM NUMBER 17. OH, DID THE SECOND ONE GET PUT IN? IT WILL BE TRANSFERRED OVER TO 17. THANK. OKAY. AND, AND, UH, NINA ZITO. SORRY. REPRESEN. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER PUBLIC. WHAT AN EXCEPTIONAL OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE. UM, THANK YOU FOR THE RESOLUTIONS AND, UH, FOCUS ON ANIMAL ISSUES. WHAT AN EXCEPTIONAL [01:05:01] OPPORTUNITY. WE HAVE TO, AGAIN, HAVE AN ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY GROUP. UM, AND BETWEEN PARKS AND ROADS AND SENIORS, UM, THERE'S SO MUCH IN THE WAY OF EDUCATION AND SERVICE, UH, THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WHEN THE WISDOM AND GOODWILL OF THE COMMUNITY IS, UH, BROUGHT TO BEAR IN THIS WAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THAT, UH, COMPLETES OUR IN-ROOM, UM, COMMENTS ON GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. WE'LL GO TO ZOOM NOW. OUR ONLY ZOOM SPEAKER IS LORI ALDERMAN. LORI, IF YOU COULD UNMUTE YOURSELF AND MAKE YOUR COMMENT. HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO THIS. YOU MUST NOT, UM, VALUE YOUR PETALUMA CITIZENS BECAUSE ONE MINUTE ZOOM. ONE MINUTE IS NOT NORMAL. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THREE MINUTES FOR IS CONSIDERED REASONABLE AND FIVE MINUTES IS THAT YOU GUYS ARE NOT MORE IMPORTANT THAN THESE CITIZENS. AND LIMITING PUBLIC COMMENT TO PEOPLE RUNNING UP THERE AND RUNNING BACK IS RIDICULOUS. UM, I DO APPRECIATE ZOOM ACCESS. I HAVE BEEN DOING IT THROUGHOUT THE, UM, THE CITIES IN STOMACH COUNTY. UM, I WAS THE FIRST IN CITY OF NAPA. UM, I DO APPRECIATE FOLLOWING SB 7 0 7. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND THAT CLOSES, UH, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE EVENING AND MOVES US ONTO OUR CONSENT CALENDAR. [COUNCIL COMMENT] NO, MOVES US ONTO COUNCIL COMMENTS. GET AHEAD OF MYSELF. I APOLOGIZE. UM, AND, UH, SO, UH, WITH THAT I'D, I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN AND I'LL START WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER REBS TONIGHT. OKAY. JUST A, A FEW ITEMS. UM, YES, I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE, UH, ICE NON-COOPERATIVE ORDINANCE COMING UP AND IN, UH, UH, MEETINGS WE CAN MAYBE HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS ON THAT. UM, I AM CURRENTLY WALKING THE DISTRICT. I'M UP FOR REELECTION AND I'VE BEEN AROUND THE RAINIER AREA RECENTLY, UH, LAST, LAST WEEK. AND I HEARD A LOT ABOUT IT. SO, UH, I'LL BE SHARING THAT WITH THE, UH, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER. THERE'S, UH, SEVERAL, SHALL WE SAY, RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT. UH, SO I'LL BE DOING THAT, UH, DOWN THE ROAD HERE. UM, I WENT TO A MEETING ABOUT BAYREN, WHO IS A, A NINE COUNTY BAY AREA GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION. AND THEY'RE ANNOUNCING THERE'S GONNA BE A PROGRAM CALLED BAMBI, B-A-M-B-E PROGRAM, WHICH IS FOR, UH, TO HELP MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES SWITCH OVER FROM GAS TO ELECTRIC. SO A LOT OF MONEY IS GONNA COME IN REBATES AND AND SO FORTH. AND PRETTY LARGE AMOUNTS, UH, THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS PER UNIT, UH, TO DO THE CONVERSION. SO THAT'S WHAT'S COMING IN. AND JUST SO THAT FOLKS, UH, ARE LIVING IN A MULTI-FAMILY UNIT, UM, TELL YOUR LANDLORDS TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS 'CAUSE THERE'S MONEY COMING THEIR WAY TO HELP DO THESE CONVERSIONS. UM, THERE WAS ANOTHER WORKSHOP, UH, ATTENDED ON THE, UH, THE, UH, BATTERY STORAGE AT THE MONTEREY FIRE. THERE WAS SOME SCIENCES BACKGROUND THAT WAS DELIVERED, AND IT DID TURN OUT THAT THERE'S LARGE AMOUNTS OF, OF, OF COBALT AND NICKEL THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, UH, SPREAD THROUGHOUT A LARGE REGION. AND THEY WERE JUST ANNOUNCING THAT THEY WERE DOING THE, UH, SCIENTIFIC STUDIES ON, UH, UH, LARGE PLUMES AND, AND WHERE IT MOVED AND HOW IT MOVED. UM, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO MODEL ALL THAT. SO THERE IS SOME CONTAMINATION THAT'S BEEN DOCUMENTED NOW ABOUT BATTERY STORAGES. UM, IN ANOTHER, UH, SESSION WITH THE, UH, WATERSHED, UM, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, UH, PLANNING FOR WATER RESILIENCY. UM, AND SO THEY HAD AN EXPERT TALK ABOUT RESILIENCY AND, AND PLANNING. AND SO THERE'S A BIG MOVEMENT TOWARD ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT. UM, AND, UM, AND EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A SPECIFIC THING THAT WE'RE HEADING TOWARD, WE WANT TO DO THIS, THIS, THIS, UM, BUT ACTUALLY WE ALSO NEED TO PREVENT FAILURES. AND THERE'S LOTS OF UNKNOWNS COMING AT US IN MANY DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. AND SO IT'S EVEN MORE IMPORTANT NOW THAN IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST TO ACTUALLY BE PREPARED FOR THOSE, UM, TROUBLES THAT ARE COMING. AND IN ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT WAS NOT, I THINK ARE TOPIC 12, WHICH WAS, UH, GONNA BE DISCUSSED TODAY, BUT UM, IS GOING TO BE TABLED, UM, THAT IS FROM THE COUNTY. AND JUST AS A REMINDER, UH, JUST JUST SO FOLKS ARE AWARE, THE, UH, COUNTY LISTS, THE HIGHEST RISK OF, OF TROUBLE COMING IS FROM EARTHQUAKES AND WILDFIRES AS THE DOMINANT THINGS WITH AT HIGH RISK. ARE THERE THINGS THAT MEDIUM AND LOW RISK, UH, AND THAT PETALUMA IN PARTICULAR IS NOT AS, UM, HAZARDOUS FOR WILDFIRES AS SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES, AND THAT EARTHQUAKES ARE STILL OUR NUMBER ONE HAZARD. AND, AND FOR, [01:10:01] SO WE HEARD ABOUT, UH, PREPAREDNESS TODAY, AND THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE HAZARD WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR. UM, THAT'S COMING DOWN THE LINE. SO JUST AS A REMINDER, OTHER OTHER THINGS WOULD BE DROUGHT, EXTREME COLD, EXTREME HEAT, EXTREME WIND, FLOOD, UH, DAM FAILURE, LANDSLIDE, SEA LEVEL RISE, TSUNAMIS. AND OF COURSE, UH, I JUST HEARD, UH, SOME MORE ABOUT THE SUPER EL NINO THAT'S COMING IN. AND, UH, SO WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR LARGE VOLUMES OF WATER. UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GONNA HIT, BUT WHEN IT DOES HIT, UM, WE CAN EXPECT, UM, FLOODING WAY ABOVE AND BEYOND THE A HUNDRED YEAR LEVEL, MAYBE THE THOUSAND YEAR LEVEL. AND IT MAY HAPPEN THIS YEAR. WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS, BUT WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT TO COME. OKAY. SO THOSE ARE MY, UH, QUICKIE ON, ON THE, UM, UH, FOUR MONTHS OF MEETINGS OR FOUR WEEKS OF MEETINGS. GREAT REMINDER. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER QUINT. THANK YOU, UH, IN SOLIDARITY WITH OUR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKERS. I'M GONNA TRY TO KEEP THIS UNDER A MINUTE. UH, I WANT TO THANK THE KEEP THE ICE OUT OF PETALUMA SUPPORTERS WHO SHOWED UP, UH, TO ADVOCATE AND OFFER MY SUPPORT TO THAT CAUSE. UM, AT THE APRIL 6TH COUNCIL MEETING, WE HELD A WORKSHOP ON POTENTIAL PETALUMA TRANSIT SERVICE CHANGES IN RESPONSE TO CHANGING FINANCIAL CONDITIONS. THOSE CHANGES WERE IMPLEMENTED ON AUGUST 10TH, AND THE CHANGES WENT SMOOTHLY. PETALUMA TRANSIT STAFF HAVE HELD A NUMBER OF OPEN COMMUNITY FEEDBACK SESSIONS TO GATHER INPUT. UH, AND I, ALONG WITH A FEW OF MY COLLEAGUES, ATTENDED ONE OF THOSE SESSIONS ON SEPTEMBER 9TH. TUNE IN, UH, TOMORROW NIGHT'S TECH MEETING IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE OUTCOME OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND AN UPDATE ON THOSE CHANGES. TO DATE, THE MEETING STARTS AT FIVE AND IT, IT'LL BE AN ABBREVIATED MEETING. WE WILL END AT SIX. THERE'S A PETALUMA TRANSIT SCAVENGER HUNT COMING UP ON SEPTEMBER 19TH, UM, WHERE, UM, THAT SHOULD BE A LOT OF FUN. UM, UH, I WAS LOOKING WHERE IT'S GONNA BE AT, BUT YOU COULD FIND INFORMATION ONLINE. IT'S GOES FROM ONE TO FOUR. AND MAYOR, I THINK YOU MAY BE, UH, INVOLVED IN THAT SPEAKING OR IN SOME DEGREE OR ANOTHER. PBAC. ON AUGUST 5TH, WE RECEIVED AN UPDATE, PROVIDED INPUT ON THE HOWARD STREET AND THE CITYWIDE ACTIVE TRANSPORT TRANSPORTATION WAY, FINDING PROJECTS. AND I GOT TO ATTEND A NUMBER OF EVENTS SINCE OUR LAST MEETING. THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN SIX WEEKS. THERE'S A LOT OF EVENTS, RIGHT? COUNCIL MEMBER NOW, UM, IN THE LIGHT OF THE, THE NIGHT, I AM GOING TO SAVE YOU SOME BORING, UH, GROUNDBREAKING AND RIBBON CUTTING, UM, INFORMATION. BUT I WANNA THANK THE MOBILE HOME TENANTS FOR BEING HERE. DON'T GIVE UP. WE'RE, WE'RE FIGHTING. UM, IT'S A LEGAL BATTLE, BUT WE'RE BEHIND YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT LITTLE WOODS, IT'S IN MY DISTRICT. PLEASE REACH OUT. UM, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THINGS AND I'VE PASSED IT ON TO THE OUR LEGAL TEAM. UM, BUT LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE HAVE YOUR BACKS ON. UM, ONE OF MY MEETING LIAISON COMMITMENTS IS FOR THE HOMELESS COALITION, AND THEY ARE MANY ZOOM MEETINGS 'CAUSE THERE'S LIKE 60 PARTICIPANTS AND THEY'RE LIKE THREE HOURS LONG. AND ONE OF THEM WAS ON OUR MEASURE O AND I WAS VERY PROUD AND KIND OF WAS, I STOOD UP A LITTLE OR SAT UP A LITTLE TALLER IN MY CHAIR, UH, DURING MY ZOOM MEETING WHEN IT WAS OUR OWN MAYOR WITH THIS COMMENT, UM, ON THE SCREEN, MEASURE O IS A GAME CHANGER FOR SONOMA COUNTY AS A MEMBER OF THE OVERSIGHT BOARD. I'VE BEEN FIRSTHAND HOW THE FUNDRAISING SUPPORTS A VIVID, A VITAL MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ACROSS OUR COMMUNITY AT A TIME OF A CRITICAL NEED MEASURE. O REPRESENTS AN IMPORTANT STEP FORWARD FOR MENTAL HEALTH CARE IN OUR COUNTY. AND OUR OWN MAYOR IS ON THE MEASURE O OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. SO I WANNA THANK HIM. AND IF YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY, IT'S, UM, AN ENGLISH AND HIS SPANISH ABOUT MEASURE O AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT MAYBE ON A FUTURE AGENDA FOR, UM, NOLAN SULLIVAN FROM OUR SONOMA COUNTY HEALTH SERVICES TO COME AND GIVE THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC A LITTLE INFO ON MEASURE O. UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND I WOULD LIKE THOSE, UM, TO BE ADDRESSED. AND ONE OF THEM IS THE LOOMING ICE, SO I HOPE THAT COMES TO THE COUNCIL SO I CAN, UM, SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE. YEAH. UM, FIRST I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR RAISING AWARENESS OF THE FLOOD PREVENTION. I THINK WE'VE DONE A LOT OF, UM, EDUCATION ABOUT FIRE PREVENTION AND PREPAREDNESS, AND I THINK WE ARE LOOKING AT, UM, PROBABLY A NEW HAZARD THAN WE HAVE SEEN IN, IN QUITE A WHILE. SO I THINK I DO SUPPORT GETTING MORE WORDED OUT ON THAT. UM, I HAVE HAD ONE, WELL, I'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS, BUT THE ONE THAT WAS MOST CONSEQUENTIAL TO THIS BODY WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE HAD OUR [01:15:01] FIRST WORKSHOP ON THE ZONING CODE UPDATE, UM, A FEW WEEKS AGO. UH, WE LOOKED AT, UM, A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS. I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO ALL THE DETAILS. UM, FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT DATA CENTERS, UM, THERE'S, UH, WE BASICALLY OUTLINED A BELT AND SUSPENDERS PROHIBITION ON THAT, UM, THAT WILL, UM, BASICALLY DEFINE DATA CENTERS AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON WHAT THE DEFINITION IS. WE WILL, UM, PROHIBIT THEM AND ALL THE LAND USES. AND IN THE DEFINITION THAT WE HAVE, THE PROPOSED DEFINITION, IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS DATA CENTERS ARE A PROHIBITED USE. SO HOPEFULLY, UM, THAT MEETS EVERYBODY'S NEEDS. UH, WE ALSO LOOKED AT, UM, REALLY THE, THE FOCUS OF THE THIS, UH, SEGMENT IS ON SMALL LOT, UM, HOUSING AND, UM, SMALL LOT HOUSING AND, UM, OUR BUSINESS PERMITTING PROCESSES. UM, OUR STAFF DID, UH, A LISTENING SESSION WITH COMMERCIAL BROKERS. AND, UM, ONE OF THE EYE-POPPING THINGS THAT THEY SAID WAS THAT, UM, THREE AND FOUR DEALS FALL APART AS SOON AS SOMEONE HEARS THAT THERE'S A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT INVOLVED. AND SO ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING ON THE, UM, ON THE BUSINESS PERMITTING SIDE IS TRYING TO MAKE, UM, REALLY MINIMIZE THE, THE NEED FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS AND, UM, AND THEN ENCOURAGING ANCILLARY USES, UM, SO THAT IF YOU OWN AN ART GALLERY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET A SECOND PERMIT TO DO ART CLASSES, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE REALLY TACKLING WITH THE ZONING CODE UPDATE. WE HAVE, UM, ANOTHER MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT TO GO INTO THE DETAILS AND LOOK AT, UM, SOME OF THE REAL SPECIFICS OF THE POLICY. AND WE'VE BROKEN THE, UM, THE PUBLIC HEARING INTO TWO MEETINGS SO THAT STAFF HAVE A CHANCE TO IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE FIRST MEETING. SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILWOMAN Cader Thompson. THANK YOU. AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE ICE, UH, NON-COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT COMING BACK ON THE 28TH. UM, I HAD MY S-C-T-C-A MEAL MEETING TODAY, WHICH IS SONOMA COUNTY TRANSIT CLIMATE ACTION. AND LAST WEEK WE TOOK A BUS RIDE, ACTUALLY, I JUST MET THEM IN PETALUMA AT OUR STATION DOWN IN PETALUMA AT THE SMART STATION. BUT THERE'S GONNA BE THREE BUSES, UM, IN THE MORNING FROM 6 17 4, 6 49, AND 7 21 COMING TO PETALUMA FROM SONOMA. AND SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO USE THE SMART LINE. AND THEN, UH, AT 4 26, 4 58 AND FIVE 30 IN THE EVENING, THERE'LL BE BUSES TAKING YOU BACK TO, UM, ACTUALLY IT'S, THAT'S TILL 6:10 PM GOING BACK TO SONOMA. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY CONNECT SONOMA AND THE RURAL AREAS THAT ARE NOT ON THE SMART LINE SO THEY CAN USE, UM, THE SMART TRAIN TO GET TO WORK. AND SO THIS IS A GREAT THING. AND SO WE, WE HAD ACTUALLY A DAY AND WE GOT, TOOK THE TOUR, WENT ON THE SMART TRAIN, AND THEN WE TOOK THE BUS AND WE WENT TO SONOMA. AND THEN FROM SONOMA WE DROVE HOME. BUT IT'S, UM, IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND WE'RE TRYING TO ACTUALLY DO MORE OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY SO MORE PEOPLE CAN USE OTHER MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION, BE BESIDES DRIVING. AND TODAY I HAD MY, UM, ACTUALLY I'M HAVING MY SMART MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, BUT AT THE LAST SMART MEETING, THE, THE PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE TRAIL FROM PEN GROVE TO KATI HAS BEEN FUNDED WITH $2.1 MILLION. AND THAT'S TO START THAT PROCESS. AND IT'S A COMPLICATED, UM, SEGMENT. SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND STUDY IT, AND HOPEFULLY THAT'LL BE DONE WITHIN A FEW YEARS. BUT FOR THE MAYOR, THE 500 FEET, UM, THAT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT, UM, FROM LAKEVILLE GETTING ONTO WASHINGTON STREET IS GOING TO BE DONE THIS YEAR. AND THAT'S $800,000 FOR THAT SEGMENT. AND YOU'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A LONG TIME, KEVIN , AND I THINK IT'S REALLY GREAT THAT THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN FOR PETALUMA. AND IT'S SAFER BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY DANGEROUS RIDING YOUR BIKE ON LAKEVILLE GETTING TO WASHINGTON STREET. AND I THINK I'M JUST GONNA LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, VICE MAYOR. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN AND SPEAKING. UH, I'LL KEEP IT TO RECENT ACTIVITIES. SO FOR THE AIRPORT COMMISSION, WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT FAIR COMPENSATION TO THE AIRPORT FOR NON-AIR AIRPORT USES, UH, FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AT THE CITY AND THE CITY. THAT'S BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH. AND I THINK MAYBE THE NEXT TIME, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE IT DONE. OUR NEW AIRPORT MANAGER IS GETTING HIS LEGS AND HE'S OFF TO A STRONG START AND HE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, ASSUME CONTROL OF OPERATIONS AND IS, AND IS EXPLORING NEW WAYS IN WHICH THE AIRPORT CAN BE MORE SUCCESSFUL. SO I THINK WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE 'EM. LAST WEEKEND I ATTENDED THE PETALUMA EDUCATION FOUNDATION FUNDRAISER. THEY RAISE FUNDS FOR THEIR FUND, THE FUTURE PROGRAM, WHICH THEY TRIED TO RAISE ABOUT $300,000 A YEAR. IT GOES DIRECTLY INTO OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, UH, FROM KINDERGARTEN ALL THE WAY UP TO 12TH GRADE. [01:20:01] THEY RAISED ALMOST $200,000 THE OTHER NIGHT. SO THEY GOT ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THEIR, THEIR, UH, GOALS IN ONE EVENING. SO THAT WAS REALLY A GREAT CAUSE, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT CAN SUPPORT THAT AND THEM IN THE FUTURE, IT'S A GREAT THING TO DO. AND FOR THEM, EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS BECAUSE IT GOES DIRECTLY TO OUR STUDENTS AND THEIR FUTURES. AND THEN, UM, IT'S ALSO BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT THE MAJORITY OF TENANTS AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, THEIR CONTRACTS ARE UP IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. AND SO I'M HOPING THAT STAFF CAN MAKE THAT, UH, BRING, BRING THAT TO COUNCIL A LITTLE BIT MORE SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR CONTRACTS MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE AN EFFORT HERE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, DO THE FAIRGROUNDS MASTER PLAN AND REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THE FAIRGROUNDS, YOU KNOW, STAYS A PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THOSE TENANTS ARE A HUGE PART OF IT. SO I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL SHOULD PARTICIPATE IN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENED IN THE LAST SIX WEEKS. UH, I DO WANT TO THANK, GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBER Cader Thompson FOR ORGANIZING THE CORONA OVERPASS IMPROVEMENT CONVERSATION ON, UH, AUGUST 5TH, RIGHT AFTER OUR MEETING. AND THAT'S LIKELY TO BRING, UH, FEDERAL MONEY INTO PETALUMA FOR IMPROVEMENTS THERE. AND, UM, HAVE OUR HOMELESS COORDINATING MEETINGS THAT, UH, IT'S, IT'S CONSTANT EFFORT HERE. UM, AND, UM, ALSO THE SKATE PARK IS STILL ON TRACK. AND IF, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE, THE ART MEETING WAS RECENTLY, AND, UM, IT'S GOOD TO SEE SKATERS ENGAGE IN MORE OF THAT. UM, I ALSO HAD A CHANCE TO TOUR THE PETALUMA HISTORIC RAILROAD MUSEUM, WHICH IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE THAT, THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY. WE HAVE, UH, HERITAGE, UM, UM, STAFFERS WHO, WHO HAVE ALL THE RECORDS OF EVERY RAILROAD THAT EVER HAPPENED, RIGHT. AND IT'S OVER THE NORTH COAST, AND IT'S RIGHT HERE IN PETALUMA. UM, I ALSO ATTENDED, UM, CASA GRANDE, THE PETALUMA CITY SCHOOL DISTRICTS CASA GRANDE CAMPUS THEATER IMPROVEMENTS. AND I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY, ATTENDANCE AT PRO AT MEETINGS IS WHAT MAKES, UH, THINGS HAPPEN. UM, YOU KNOW, THE, WITH MEETINGS WHEN AN AGENCY HOLDS A MEETING LIKE THAT, OR WHEN THE SKATE MEETING IS HELD OR WHEN THIS MEETING IS HELD, IT'S JUST REALLY NICE TO SEE FACES AND VOICES IN THE ROOM. [CITY MANAGER COMMENT] AND, UM, WITH THAT, I WILL PASS IT OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL COMMUNITY. UM, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THE FEMA FLYER. UH, THE CITY PARTICIPATES IN WHAT'S CALLED THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM AS PART OF FEMA, SO WE CAN DISCOUNT FLOOD INSURANCE RATES FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE AREAS. UM, AND WE DO PUT OUT A FLYER EVERY YEAR TO KIND OF, IN BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH TO LET FOLKS KNOW FLOOD PREVENTION, UM, UH, TIPS AND, UM, STORM PREP. AND ALSO OUR STAFF ARE WORKING ON OUR STREAM MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. SO EVERY YEAR WE DO, UH, CLEAR OUT THE CHANNELS TO, TO, UH, REDUCE FLOOD, UM, FLOODING, UH, RISKS. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THEN, UM, WE ARE STAFF ARE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF, UM, EXTENDING THOSE LEASES FOR OUR FAIRGROUNDS TENANTS, AND HAPPY TO, UM, UPDATE COUNSEL AND WE, UM, REACH NEGOTIATIONS WITH, WITH EACH OF THOSE TENANTS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. AND [CONSENT CALENDAR] THAT BRINGS US TO OUR CONSENT CALENDAR FOR THE EVENING. AND, UM, I LOOK UP AND DOWN THE DIOCESE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR. AND NOTE, YOU KNOW, NOTING THERE ARE 11 ITEMS ON IS, UH, IS THERE ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO WISHES TO, UH, ADDRESS ONE SEPARATELY? I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM 11. ITEM 11. ALL RIGHT. SO, UM, THE WAY WE DO, UH, CONSENT CALENDAR IS WE DO, UM, ALL THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON, ON THINGS AND, AND THEN WE BRING IT BACK UP AND WE DEAL WITH, UH, ITEMS ONE THROUGH 10 AND 11 SEPARATELY AS REQUESTED. SO I'M GONNA PASS TO OUR CITY CLERK RIGHT NOW, SEE WHERE WE ARE IN PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, WE HAVE 11 FOLKS JOINING US ON THE ZOOM. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS AHEAD OF TIME ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, BUT AT THIS MOMENT, I CAN START A 32ND CLOCK. UM, DURING THESE 30 SECONDS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS OH, THANK YOU TO MY DESK. UH, AND THOSE ONLINE SHOULD RAISE THEIR HAND. IF YOU'RE ATTENDING VIA PHONE, PRESS STAR NINE TO ATTEND, UH, TO SPEAK. UH, AND SPEAKER REQUEST RECEIVED AFTER THIS TIME MAY NOT BE ACCOMMODATED. I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS, AND I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CARDS, SO NO HANDS, NO CARDS. SO WE'VE OPENED PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE'VE CLOSED IT, AND WE'RE MOVING NOW TO, UM, THE COUNCIL. AND, UM, LET'S SEE. LET, LET'S, UH, UH, GO TO ITEM [01:25:01] 11 AND, AND INVITE THE VICE MAYOR IN YOUR COMMENT. THANK YOU. SO AFTER REVIEWING ITEM 11, YOU KNOW, IT MADE ME THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I'VE BEEN ON OUTSIDE BODIES AND I HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, VOTE THE WAY THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE ME TO, UM, I ALWAYS HAVE TO DO THAT TO VOTE THE WAY THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDES THAT WE'RE GONNA VOTE. [11. Resolution Appointing a Voting Delegate and Alternate for the League of California Cities 2026 Annual Conference] AND SO, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH THIS ITEM BEING THE CAL CITIES CONFERENCE AND ELECTING THE CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY TO BE, UM, OUR VOTING BODY FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE VOTING ON. SO WE'VE GIVEN THEM NO DIRECTION. AND AT THE SAME TIME, THEY'RE NEITHER ELECTED OFFICIALS. AND SO FOR MYSELF, I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE BALANCE, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SHOULD BE DELEGATING THAT. GOOD POINT. UM, SO MAY I ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO WEIGH IN ON WHAT VOTING MATTERS ARE ANTICIPATED? IS IT EXTENSIVE OR LIMITED? ACTUALLY, I'M GONNA ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY, 'CAUSE HE SITS ON THE CAL CITY'S BOARD. UM, WE'RE, I THINK THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE ONE RESOLUTION. UM, I DON'T, I HAVEN'T, AND I THINK WE MAY BE ANTICIPATING ANOTHER, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, WHAT ARE CALLED FLOOR RESOLUTIONS TO BE, UM, PRESENTED. THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THAT TO THE, UM, MEMBERSHIP, UM, THE VOTING DELEGATES. UM, AND, AND IT IS A VERY TIGHT TIMEFRAME FOR THAT. THEY CAN BE, I THINK THEY CAN BE SUBMITTED AS LATE AS THURSDAY EVENING AND THEY GET THE A, A VOTE ON THE FRIDAY MORNING SESSION. UM, SO I, I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T HAVE DETAILED INFORMATION ON THAT. WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS IN MY CAPACITY, UM, UM, AS A MEMBER OF THE, THE BOARD OF LEGAL CALIFORNIA CITIES, AND I HAVE THAT ROLE AS A PAST PRESIDENT OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S DEPARTMENT. UM, AND THE CURRENT, UM, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY, CITY ATTORNEY'S DEPARTMENT ON THE BOARD IS THAT, UM, JUST LIKE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHEN THEY SERVE ON THE BOARD, UM, THE FOCUS IS ON, UM, LOCAL CONTROL. AND, AND, AND WHEN I SPEAK AT THE BOARD MEETINGS AND WHEN WE DEBATE THAT THOSE ARE THE POSITIONS I TAKE IN SUPPORT OF LOCAL CONTROL. SO WE HAVE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF LATITUDE FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL AS THE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY TO CHART THE COURSE OF THIS COMMUNITY. SO THAT'S, THAT, THAT REFLECTS, UM, THE KIND OF PARTICIPATION I HAVE AND WHAT THE BOARD ARE CHARGED WITH. UM, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE FURTHER INFORMATION TO THE COUNCIL, UM, BASED ON THE, THE MATERIALS THAT ARE BEING READY FOR THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE. ANY OTHER, UH, ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER WISH TO WEIGH IN? IF COUNCIL MEMBER QUINT, ARE THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WANT TO GO OR BE CONSIDERED? WELL, I'M GONNA BE DOWN THERE, BUT I HAVE TO BE HOME THURSDAY NIGHT, AND SO I HAD, AND THE VOTING IS USUALLY ON A FRIDAY, BUT I CAN REVIEW EVERYTHING AND THEN DETERMINE WHAT'S GONNA BE VOTED ON. YEAH, BUT DO YOU WANT TO GO AND BE CONSIDERED AS A VOTING DELEGATE? I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE IF NO ONE ELSE IS GOING AND WANTS TO BE THERE TO VOTE, THEN THAT WEIGHS INTO THE DECISION. WELL, USUALLY THEN THE CITY MANAGER OR THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN VOTE FOR ME. OKAY. SO, SO WE'LL GO OVER THE RESOLUTIONS, WHAT NEEDS TO BE VOTED ON, AND, BUT SOMETIMES WE DON'T GET 'EM UNTIL LIKE, THE NIGHT BEFORE. YEAH, BUT MY QUESTION, MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT, DO YOU WANT TO BE, DO YOU WANT US TO VOTE FOR YOU TO BE THE VOTING DELEGATE? I'M NOT GONNA BE THERE FRIDAY MORNING. OKAY. SO I'M LEAVING THURSDAY NIGHT TO COME HOME. THAT'S RIGHT THERE. SO THAT'S WHY THE CITY ATTORNEY OR CITY MANAGER WOULD TAKE MY PLACE. AND THAT'S PERFECTLY NORMAL COUNCIL MEMBER SHRI. UM, YEAH, SINCE YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, LOCAL CONTROL, UH, MIGHT BE A, A PARTICULAR ISSUE, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF, UH, THE COUNCIL, UM, WANT, WOULD, MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A DIRECTION FOR THAT, UH, IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, UH, GIVEN, UM, STATE VERSUS LOCAL CONTROL ON, ON ITEMS. SO IS THERE, UH, WELL, THERE, IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LEARN ABOUT WHAT THE RESOLUTIONS ARE BEFORE THE VOTE ANYWAY? I CAN, SO THAT WE CAN, MIGHT, MIGHT BE ABLE TO WEIGH IN IF AND MAY MIGHT I, UM, ASK ALSO BETWEEN NOW AND THE CONFERENCE, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL MEETING FOR US TO GATHER OUR THOUGHTS. THIS IS, I THINK WHAT WE'RE, UM, HEADING INTO IS, UM, DO WE BELIEVE THE CITY MANAGER AND AND THE CITY ATTORNEY HAVE THE INTEREST OF THE COUNCIL WELL ENOUGH IN HAND THAT WE AUTHORIZE THEM ON THIS BASIS. AND, UH, LIKE YOU SAID, THINGS COME FROM THE FLOOR. EVEN, EVEN IF IT WASN'T CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, THEY WOULD BE VOTING ON THEIR OWN IDEA OF THE COUNCIL OR INDIVIDUAL DECISION MAKING AT THE TIME. SO I, I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE MOTION THAT'S PROPOSED. COUNCILMAN BARNICLE, AS LONG AS WE'RE SUPPORTING THINGS THAT SUPPORT LOCAL CONTROL AND, UM, OPPOSE UNFUNDED MANDATES, UM, [01:30:01] I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG THINGS THAT I FEEL LIKE COME UP AT CAL CITIES. AND SO AS LONG AS YOU'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, KEEP THAT AS YOUR SORT OF NORTH STAR LUNGES, THEN I SUPPORT IT. AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, CONSULT WITH JANICE, UM, WHILE YOU'RE DOWN THERE. AND I TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT AND I, I CAN READ THE RESOLUTION TITLE IF IT'LL BE HELPFUL. UM, PLEASE. THE, THE ONE THAT'S THERE, A RESOLUTION OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES CALLING FOR A WORKING GROUP TO CONSIDER A STATE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT OR OTHER FORM OF INITIATIVE TO ENSURE FINAL LOCAL AUTHORITY OVER HOUSING AND LAND USE DECISIONS. THAT'S, IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING WE SUPPORT. OKAY. WE HAVE NO SUPPORTING. I MEAN, THERE'S, WE'VE HAD NO TIME TO REVIEW THAT THOUGH. UNDERSTOOD. SO, C CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO, YOU MAY FORWARD THE ITEM SO WE HAVE A MOTION. AND DO WE, WE NEED A SECOND HERE. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY QUINT, THE SECOND BY BARNACLE. AND I'D LIKE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. BARNACLE. AYE. Cader Thompson? YES. DI CARLY. IS THIS ITEM 11 OR ONE THROUGH 10? 11, 11. LET'S UH, CLARIFY THE MOTION, PLEASE. THAT'S, UH, UM, ITEM 11. I'M CLARIFYING TO MOVE ITEM 11 FORWARD. THANK YOU. AND THE SECOND STANDS AT, AT ITEM 11, COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE FOR 11 SECOND STANDS. YEAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. GOOD CLARIFICATION. AND WHERE WERE WE ON THE ROLL CALL? VOTE, UH, BARNACLE. WAS I Cader Thompson? I DI CARLY? NO. OKAY, NOW YES. QUINT? YES. REBS? YES. McDonnell? YES. MOTION. CARRIE? SIX TO ONE. THANK YOU. UM, NOW WE'LL MOVE TO ONE THROUGH 10. UH, ANY COMMENT ON ONE THROUGH 10 OR A MOTION? SO MOVED. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION BY BARNACLE, A SECOND BY Cader Thompson. AND A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. BARNACLE. AYE. CATER. THOMPSON? YES. TO CARLY? YES. NOW YES. QUINT? YES. SHRIVES? YES. McDonnell? YES. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, UM, THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM 12, WHICH IS A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE APPLICABLE PORTIONS OF THE 2026 SONOMA COUNTY. NOPE, THAT'S THE ONE WE MOVED ON. UM, KEEPING UP BASS TONIGHT. OKAY, SO WE, WE DELETED THAT FROM THE AGENDA 12TH, AND WE'RE [13. Adoption (Second Reading) of an Ordinance 2932 N.C.S. of the City Council of the City of Petaluma Amending the Scott Ranch Planned Unit District (PUD) Development Standards to Rescind Section 5.3 Prohibiting Swimming Pools and Add to Table 5.1: Land Uses, Residential District, Swimming Pool, Hot Tub, and Spa as Permitted Accessory Uses, Subject to Specific Use Standards under Implementing Zoning Ordinance (IZO) Section 7.080] MOVING TO 13, WHICH IS SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF 29 32. THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA AMENDING THE SCOTT RANCH PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO RESCIND PROHIBITING POOLS AND TO ADD A TABLE OF LAND USE, RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT SWIMMING POOL, HOT TUB SPA AS PERMITTED SUBJECT TO SPECIFIC USE STANDARDS UNDER IMPLEMENTING ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 7.080. AND, UH, TO HELP US WITH THIS, WE HAVE MIKE GENESEK, SENIOR PLANNER. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR McDonnell AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M MIKE JANIS. I'M A SENIOR PLANNER CONSULTING WITH M GROUP. AND, UH, THIS IS THE SECOND READING, UH, FOR THE PUD AMENDMENT TO ALLOW SWIMMING POOLS AS A PERMITTED ACCESSORY USE AT SCOTT RANCH. UM, BECAUSE THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE, UH, WAS NOT A UNANIMOUS VOTE, UH, WE ARE BACK HERE THIS EVENING FOR THE SECOND READING. IT IS A, UH, FULL PUBLIC HEARING. UM, THAT SAID, I DO NOT HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION, UM, PREPARED, UH, FOR THIS EVENING. BUT I DID WANNA NOTE, UM, A COUPLE THINGS. UM, THE FIRST IS THERE'S ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THE ISSUES RESULTING IN NO VOTES IN THE STAFF REPORT. UM, PAGES 4, 3, 6. UH, THESE TOPICS INCLUDE, UH, THE POOL PROHIBITION, UH, SOURCE NATIVE LANDSCAPING, THE PARK COMPONENT OF THE PUD NOISE GEOTECHNICAL REVIEW. UM, AND ALSO WANNA NOTE THAT THIS ITEM, UH, WAS NOTICED, UH, BY MAIL, ARGUS COURIER AND ONSITE POSTING, UH, 10 DAYS IN ADVANCE ON SEPTEMBER 4TH. UH, NO PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED, UH, PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S HEARING. UM, AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. UM, IF YOU WANNA DIVE INTO ANY OF THE DISCUSSION TOPICS, THE APPLICANT'S ALSO IN ATTENDANCE, UM, FROM THE HOME BUILDER, DAVID ON, AND IS AVAILABLE AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, UM, TO COUNSEL. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? AND, UH, SEEING NONE, UM, LET'S GO TO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT. I'LL INVITE THE CLERK IN TO READ THE PUBLIC COMMENT MESSAGING. YES, WE HAVE 12 PEOPLE ONLINE IN THE ZOOM. WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY NEW COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM. UM, AND AT THIS TIME, I WILL START A 32ND CLOCK. DURING THESE 30 SECONDS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS, DO A CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING ONLINE SHOULD RAISE THEIR VIRTUAL HAND. THOSE ATTENDING VIA PHONE SHOULD PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE THEIR HAND. SPEAKER REQUEST RECEIVED AFTER THESE 30 SECONDS MAY NOT BE ACCOMMODATED. [01:35:02] I SEE ONE HAND UP SO FAR, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CARDS. OKAY. THAT WAS 30 SECONDS. WE DO HAVE ONE, UH, REMOTE SPEAKER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOT HAVING ANYONE IN HOUSE, LET'S GO DIRECTLY TO OUR ZOOM PARTICIPANT. GREAT. UH, S KIRKS. YES, GOOD EVENING. UM, SUSAN KIRKS, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO CONTINUE TO EXPRESS MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE WAY THIS WAS MANAGED, TO HOW IT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, TO THE COUNCIL LIAISON'S COMMENT ABOUT HOW WE SHOULDN'T BE PREVENTING KIDS WHO NEED SWIMMING POOLS FROM HAVING THEM IN THIS LUXURY HOME DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU WILL NOW HAVE A DEVELOPER WITH THE OPPORTUNITY, WITH YOUR ACTION TO PUT IN 28 SWIMMING POOLS. AND THAT LUXURY HOUSE DEVELOPMENT. IT GOES COMPLETELY AGAINST EVERYTHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED WHEN THIS WAS APPROVED WITH THE PARK EXTENSION, WHICH I, BY THE WAY, OPPOSED, UH, BECAUSE OF THE SENSITIVITY OF THAT WILD LAND, WHICH HAS NOW BEEN COMPLETELY DEVASTATED AND RUINED. AND I JUST THINK YOU ARE A VERY IRRESPONSIBLE BODY OF DECISION MAKERS WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY, AND PARTICULARLY OUR ENVIRONMENT. IT IS REALLY WRONG WHAT IS BEING DONE. SO I AM JUST EXPRESSING MY CONTINUED OPPOSITION TO THIS NEW ORDINANCE, ALLOWING SWIMMING POOLS WITH THOSE HOMES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES OUR, THAT CONCLUDES OUR, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ITEM. CLOSE THIS PUBLIC COMMENT. I'LL BRING IT BACK UP TO THE COUNCIL FOR ANY COUNCIL COMMENTS OR INPUT OR MOTION. WELL, I JUST, I'LL MAKE A COMMENT. JUST THE COUNCIL MEMBER PETER THOMPSON. THESE ARE 28 HOMES THAT ARE BUILT. THEY HAVE BACKYARDS AND ORIGINALLY POOLS WEREN'T ALLOWED, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE DROUGHT. AND THE DROUGHT. AND SO NOW THEY REQUESTED IF THEY COULD PUT POOLS IN, THE HOMES ARE BUILT, THERE'S BACKYARDS, THERE'S FENCES AROUND THEM. AND I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. OR I'LL YEAH, MAKE THE MOTION. THANK YOU. MOTION FROM SECOND. LET'S, LET'S HOLD THE SECOND FOR HEARTBEAT HERE. UM, UH, VICE, VICE MAYOR CARLY, UM, I JUST WANNA BE CONSISTENT FROM THE LAST MEETING AND SAY THAT THIS IS KIND OF AN, THIS UNDERMINES OUR ENTITLEMENT PROCESS, YOU KNOW, AND IT WASN'T THAT POOLS WEREN'T ALLOWED. UM, THEY REMOVED IT FROM THE EQUATION AND NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO ADD IT BACK IN. AND SO PART OF MY QUALM WITH THIS WHOLE THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT MA MAKING HOMES MORE AFFORDABLE UP HERE ALL THE TIME, AND ADDING THIS TO THE EQUATION MAKES THOSE HOMES MORE EXPENSIVE. AND THAT ONLY BENEFITS THE DEVELOPER DOING IT. YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT WANTS A POOL COULD GO IN AFTER THE FACT AND APPLY FOR ONE. AND WITH OUR PERMITS BEING A STREAMLINED AS THEY ARE NOW, SHOULD BE A PRETTY EASY PROCESS TO DO. SO THAT'S WHERE I FEEL THAT THIS, THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA AND IT ONLY BENEFITS THE DEVELOPER, NOT OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE SUPPORTING THIS, AND I WON'T. THANK YOU. I JUST WANNA MAKE ONE COMMENT. THANK YOU. UM, COUNCILMAN, I, I WENT UP TO COUNCILMAN Cader Thompson. I WENT TO THE DEVELOPER, THE DEVELOPMENT AFTER, YOU KNOW, THE MEETING LAST TIME, MOST OF THE HOMES ARE SOLD. SO THEY'RE NOT RAISING THE COST OF THE HOMES. THEY'RE ALREADY EXPENSIVE AND THEY'RE NOT RAISING THE COST. SO I THINK THEY MAY HAVE BEEN ADVERTISING IS POOLS. LET ME RECOGNIZE EACH OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AT THE COMPLETION OF A PRIOR COUNCIL MEMBER'S COMMENTS. COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE. SO I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. UM, BUT I'LL SAY THAT IF A HOMEOWNER, IF WE DON'T DO THIS AND A HOMEOWNER WANTS TO PUT IN A POOL, THEY'RE GONNA PAY THE COST. SO THAT MEANS THAT, UM, WE ARE, UH, THE, THE DEVELOPERS SHOULDERING THE COST TO GET THE ZONING AND OR THE, THE LAND USE ENTITLEMENTS IN PLACE SO THAT A POOL COULD COME FORWARD. UH, OTHERWISE SAID HOMEOWNER'S GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT. SO IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE, UM, THEY CAN JUST COME IN AND GET A STREAMLINED PERMIT. THEY CAN GET A STREAMLINED PERMIT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THIS AND IT'S GONNA PASS, BUT THEY COULDN'T OTHERWISE. SO JUST TO, TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, COUNCIL MEMBER SHRI, UM, YES, I DID GO OVER TO THE, DEVELOP MYSELF AND ASK THESE QUESTIONS. UM, I, UH, LOOKED [01:40:01] AT THE, WHAT WOULD BE CALLED BACKYARDS AND WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED AND HOW THEY'RE SITUATED. AND, UH, JUST TO REITERATE WHAT I SAID LAST TIME, UM, ONLY, SO THERE WAS FIVE, FIVE HOMES THAT ALREADY WANTED TO HELP, UH, THE, THE POOLS. UM, AND MY UNDERSTANDING, WHAT I WAS TOLD BY THE SALESPERSON IS THOSE FOLKS WOULD PAY FOR THE ADDITION OF THE POOLS BEING PUT IN THERE. SO THAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED, UH, STATEMENT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR THESE POOLS. AND THESE ARE GONNA BE EXTRA EXPENSIVE POOL CONSTRUCTIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE ON, UM, I WOULD SAY FRAGILE HILLSIDES. 'CAUSE THE HILLS WERE COMPLETELY REMOLDED TREMENDOUSLY. IF YOU GO OUT THERE VERY STEEP, UM, HILLS COMPLETELY BULLDOZED IN. SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S NATURAL SOIL THAT THESE THINGS ARE GOING INTO. SO, UM, SO I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT, UM, WHETHER LEAKAGE AND, AND THE ACTUAL SOILS ON, ON THESE, WHETHER TO MEAN TO HAVE THESE POOLS THERE ALSO, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE, THE RATIONALE WHY WE WOULD, WHY POOLS WERE NOT PULED. IT WASN'T JUST FOR, OH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A DROUGHT AND, AND NO WATER'S ALLOWED. THERE WAS A LARGE DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, UH, UH, BEING ECOLOGICALLY MINDED AND SENSITIVE FOR THESE HOMES TO BE NEXT TO THIS WILDLAND HABITAT. AND SO THAT WAS A LARGE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION AND AGREEMENTS, UH, IN THE COMMUNICATION. SO ADDING THESE POOLS IS, IS BASICALLY A, A, A, A NICE THING FOR THE DEVELOPER TO DO FOR THE PARTICULAR HOMEOWNERS, EVERYTHING. BUT I THINK, UH, I, I'LL GO WITH THIS, WHAT WE SAID EARLIER, UM, NO POOLS IN THIS AREA, UH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME. SO I'M GONNA BE VOTING NO ON THIS COUNCIL. MAYOR QUINT, I, I COULD BE WRONG, BUT I SEEM TO RECALL FROM THE STAFF REPORT ON THE FIRST READING OF THIS ORDINANCE THAT THERE WASN'T REALLY ANYTHING IN WRITING, UH, THAT, UM, TALKED ABOUT WHY IT EXISTED. IT WAS KIND OF LIKE A MYSTERY. SO, UM, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, DEEP PUBLIC DEBATE ON THE ISSUE, I DON'T RECALL THAT BEING THE CASE. THANK YOU. AND, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FROM Cader Thompson AND A SECOND FROM BARNACLE. AND I'D LIKE TO CALL FOR THE ROLL CALL VOTE BARNACLE. AYE. Cader Thompson? YES. DID CARLY, NO. NOW YES. QUINT, YES. TRIPS? NOPE. McDonnell? YES. MOTION CARRIES FIVE TO TWO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THAT [14. Introduction (First Reading) of an Ordinance Authorizing Acquisition of Permanent Easements from Sonoma Water Along the Lynch Creek Trail and Authorizing the City Manager to Execute All Related Documents] TAKES US TO ITEM 14, AND THANK YOU TO, UH, STAFF FOR, UM, THAT PRESENTATION. ITEM 14 IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING ACQUISITION OF PERMANENT EASEMENT FROM SONOMA WATER ALONG LYNCH CREEK TRAIL, AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL RELATED DOCUMENTS. TO HELP US WITH THIS, WE HAVE PAIGE BULLOCK, OUR PROJECT MANAGER. THANK YOU MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS PAIGE BULLOCK. I WORK IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AS A PROJECT MANAGER. UM, THE ACTION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO ACQUIRE FOUR PERMANENT EASEMENTS FROM SONOMA WATER ALONG THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL. UM, AS A BRIEF PREFACE, BEFORE I WALK THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL EASEMENTS, UM, AN EASEMENT GIVES THE CITY SPECIFIC RIGHTS TO USE AN ACCESS PROPERTY OWNED BY ANOTHER AGENCY WITHOUT TRANSFERRING OWNERSHIP OF THAT PROPERTY. SO IN THIS CASE, SONOMA WATER WILL CONTINUE TO OWN THE UNDERLYING LAND, WHILE THE EASEMENTS WILL PROVIDE THE CITY WITH THE LEGAL RIGHTS NEEDED TO CONSTRUCT, OPERATE, ACCESS, MAINTAIN AND REPAIR THE TRAIL AND ITS ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE. UM, THERE ARE FOUR EASEMENT PARCELS BEFORE YOU, UM, CAITLYN, IF WE COULD SHARE THAT ON THE SCREEN WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, PARCEL A COVERS A PORTION OF THE TRAIL CORRIDOR BETWEEN THE HOLLY LANE AND THE PAYON STREET AREAS. PARCEL B AND C EXPAND THE CITY'S EXISTING PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY EASEMENT NEAR HOLLY LANE. AND PARCEL D PROVIDES THE ADDITIONAL RIGHTS NEEDED FOR UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE NEAR BO BURLINGTON DRIVE. UM, YOUR PACKET ALSO INCLUDES EXHIBIT A, THE DRAFT PERMANENT EASEMENT DEED EXHIBITS A ONE THROUGH A FOUR, WHICH CONTAIN THE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS AND PLOTS FOR THE INDIVIDUAL EASEMENT AREAS. AND AN OVERALL MAP SHOWING THE EASEMENT BOUNDARIES. SO THESE SPECIFIC EASEMENTS ARE NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE PLANNED LYNCH CREEK TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING PAVING THE REMAINING UNPAVED TRAIL SEGMENT, IMPROVING ACCESSIBILITY AND INSTALLING RELATED TRAIL INFRASTRUCTURE. UM, THIS WILL ALSO CLARIFY THE CITY'S LONG-TERM ACCESS AND MAINTENANCE RIGHTS WITHIN THE TRAIL CORRIDOR. UM, APPROVAL TONIGHT WILL ALSO OR WILL ALLOW STAFF TO ADVANCE THE EASEMENTS THROUGH SONOMA WATER'S APPROVAL PROCESS AND ADVANCE CONSTRUCTION OF THE TRAIL. UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY QUESTION FROM ANY FROM COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER SHRIVES? [01:45:01] UM, YES. ON THE, UM, FIRST JUST ON PARCEL A I THINK THERE IS A LITTLE PIECE THERE THAT WE WILL BE EXTENDING OUT AND AND MODIFYING TO WIDEN OUT THAT TRAIL IS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S MY IMPRESSION. OKAY, GOOD. AND THEN IN PARCEL D IT LOOKS LIKE INSTEAD OF ALONG THE TRAIL, IT GOES OVER THE CREEK. SO IS THERE A PLAN TO ACTUALLY PUT A BRIDGE THERE AT THAT POINT? NO, THAT IS FOR A CONDUIT. IT'S AN EXISTING, UM, PRETTY MUCH IT'S AN EXISTING METER, UM, BOX OFF OF BURLINGTON DRIVE. UM, IT'S LIKE A PEDESTAL AND THEN DIRECTLY ACROSS THE RIVER BETWEEN THE PATH, THERE'S AN, BETWEEN THE PATH AND THE CREEK, THERE'S AN EXISTING ELECTRICAL PULL BOX. SO THAT WILL JUST ALLOW US TO BASICALLY MAINTAIN THAT ELECTRICAL CONNECTION IF WE NEED TO PULL WIRES IN THE FUTURE. UM, IT'S NOT A BRIDGE, BUT IT, IT DOES LOOK LIKE THAT. OKAY. BUT, BUT I WAS JUST ASKING FOR THE RATIONAL, WHY IS IT GOING ACROSS THE CREEK THERE? IT GOES UNDERNEATH THE CREEK. UNDERNEATH THE CREEK, YES. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. YEAH. AND THEN, UM, SO THE, THE PARCEL B AND C, UM, ARE, ARE GONNA HAVE THE, UH, PROBABLY MORE PERMANENT, UM, PAVEMENT PUTTING PUT IN OR CEMENT. UM, BUT THE REST OF THE PATH IS, IS ASPHALT THAT IS FALLING APART, IS AS PART OF THE PLAN ALSO IN THIS PROJECT TO REDO THE ASPHALT SECTION SO THAT IT IS A MUCH BETTER SURFACE. YES, WE WILL BE, UM, REMOVING THE OLD AND CRACKED ASPHALT AND REPLACING THAT RE REPAVING IT AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. OKAY. AND AND SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GONNA CRACK ? YES. YES. OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTION, UM, WHAT TYPE OF EASEMENT IS THAT FOR D IS THAT A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT OR IS IT A PUBLIC ACCESS EASEMENT. A UTILITY EASEMENT. OKAY. MM-HMM . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MM-HMM . UM, SO NO OTHER QUESTIONS. LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. AT THIS TIME, I WILL START A 32ND CLOCK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, DURING THESE 30 SECONDS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO MY DESK. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING ONLINE SHOULD RAISE THEIR VIRTUAL HAND, AND THOSE ATTENDING VIA PHONE SHOULD PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE THEIR HAND. SPEAKER REQUESTS RECEIVED AFTER THIS TIME MAY NOT BE ACCOMMODATED. UH, AND WE DO HAVE 12 FOLKS ONLINE. UM, I DON'T SEE ANY HANDS YET, BUT I DO HAVE ONE CARD. WE HAVE ONE CARD. DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, ZOOM HANDS? WE DO NOT. WE DO NOT. UH, BEN PETERS IS OUR SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM. UH, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I JUST WANNA SAY I'M AN ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORTER OF, UH, CONTINUING THE, UH, PAVING OF THIS TRAIL. YOU KNOW, THE EASEMENTS ARE GREAT. THIS IS SUCH A GEM. WE HAVE THIS PORTION OF THE LCT. UH, I DO WANNA MAKE A COUPLE OBSERVATIONS. I USE THIS TRAIL BASICALLY EVERY DAY. UM, THE INGRESS TO THE PARK THERE ON PAY RAN, THAT IS A PRETTY DANGEROUS AREA. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT JUST HOW DANGEROUS IT IS WHEN YOU'RE RIDING YOUR BIKE AND NEED TO MAKE A LEFT TURN TO ENTER THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC IS COMING UP THE HILL AND THERE REALLY NEEDS TO BE SOME TRAFFIC CALMING OR OTHER TYPE OF MITIGATION TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO ENTER THAT, UH, PORTION OF PAYAN STREET RIGHT THERE. SO, UM, I KNOW IT'S NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE EASEMENTS, BUT THIS LITTLE SECTION OF OUR CITY IS SO IMPORTANT TO BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THE LCT. UH, ANOTHER THING I'LL MENTION, THIS IS CERTAINLY MORE ON THE MEDIUM TERM, BUT UM, THE CITY ALSO OWNS A COUPLE PARCELS RIGHT AROUND THE AREA. AND THIS IS REALLY, UH, POTENTIAL FOR ADDING MORE DENSITY INTO OUR CITY, WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT. UH, AND SO THERE'S A COUPLE HOUSES THERE ON EITHER SIDE OF PAY. WE COULD INCREASE THE HEIGHT, WE COULD ADD SOME ADUS. AND THE OTHER THING WE COULD DO, THERE'S THOSE FLOOD WALLS THERE. IF AS PART OF LONGER TERM LCT PLANNING, IF YOU COULD GET OVER THOSE FLOOD WALLS, YOU CAN SUDDENLY ACCESS THAT PORTION OF THAT LARGE PROPERTY, WHICH IS CUT OFF FROM THE RAILROAD CROSSING, RIGHT? AND SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IN THIS LITTLE PORTION OF TOWN WHICH ARE SO IMPORTANT. SO AGAIN, I'M A HUGE, UH, SUPPORTER OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, UH, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE LCT TO OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT BRINGS IT UP TO COUNCIL. ANY LAST THOUGHTS OR MOTION? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. MOTION BY Cader Thompson. I SECOND AND A SECOND BY NOW. AND A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. BARNACLE. AYE. Cader Thompson? YES. LY? YES. NOW? YES. QUINT? YES. SCHIBS? YES. [01:50:01] McDonnell? YES. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THAT. UM, PROJECT MANAGER, SHE'S ALREADY GONE. UM, [15. Introduction (First Reading) of an Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Petaluma Repealing Chapter 17.21 of the Petaluma Municipal Code and Replacing It with a New Chapter 17.21 Entitled “Certified Unified Program Agency (CUPA)"] AND, UH, OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE INTRODUCTION OF AN ORDINANCE, UM, FOR THE, UH, MUNICIPAL CODE, REPLACING IT WITH A NEW CHAPTER 1721, UH, ENTITLED, UM, CERTIFIED UNIFIED PROGRAM AGENCY COUPA. AND TO HELP US WITH THAT, WE HAVE AMY, UM, SGE OF OUR, UH, OUR FIRE MARSHAL. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITY MANAGEMENT, CITY STAFF, AND THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM. UM, IT'S GONNA BRING OUR COUPA ORDINANCE INTO ALIGNMENT WITH CURRENT STATE LAW. DURING OUR MOST RECENT COUPA EVALUATION, THEY, OUR EXISTING ORDINANCE, WHICH DATES BACK TO 1997, WAS IDENTIFIED AS BEING INCONSISTENT WITH CURRENT STATE LAW. THIS UPDATE RESOLVES THAT DEFICIENCY BY REMOVING OUTDATED LOCAL LANGUAGE AND RELYING DIRECTLY ON THE STATE REQUIREMENTS THAT GOVERN THE COUPA PROGRAM. TODAY. IT DOES NOT REDUCE NOR EXPAND REGULATORY OVERSIGHT OR CREATE ANY NEW FEES. IT SIMPLY ENSURES OUR MUNICIPAL CODE STAYS CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW MOVING FORWARD. SO STAFF RE RECOMMENDS ADOPTION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. AND, UM, LET'S GO DIRECTLY TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AT THIS TIME. I'LL START A 32ND CLOCK. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING ONLINE SHOULD RAISE THEIR VIRTUAL HAND. THOSE ATTENDING VIA PHONE SHOULD PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE THEIR HAND. SPEAKER REQUESTS RECEIVED AFTER THIS TIME MAY NOT BE ACCOMMODATED. WE HAVE 12 FOLKS JOINING US ON ZOOM. NO COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED ON THIS ITEM AHEAD OF THE MEETING. UH, AND I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CARDS AND I DO NOT SEE ANY HANDS AS WE FINISH UP THESE 30 SECONDS. WELL, THANK YOU. THAT, UH, CLOSES PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE ITEM, BRINGS IT BACK TO COUNCIL COMMENTS. MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE IT FORWARD. I'LL SECOND THAT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY QUINTIN, A SECOND BY Cader Thompson. AND MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE BARNACLE. AYE. Cader Thompson? YES. DI CARLY? YES. NOW? YES. QUINT? YES. SHRIVES? YES. McDonnell? YES. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, AMY. THAT MOVES US TO ITEM 16, WHICH IS CERTIFYING THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE PETALUMA GENERAL PLAN 2050 AND ADOPTING THE PETALUMA GENERAL PLAN 2050 RESCINDING GENERAL PLAN 2025, ADOPTING THE FINDINGS OF FACT STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATION AND THE MITIGATION MONITORING AND REPORTING PROGRAM. AND TO HELP US WITH THIS, WE HAVE OUR GENERAL PLAN TEAM OF, UH, BRIAN O, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, HEATHER HEINZ, SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER, AND, UM, OTHER STAFF. SO, UM, IT IS YOURS, RON, WHO'S STARTING HERE. DO WE HAVE ENOUGH CHAIRS YET? OKAY, THANK YOU. [16. ​​Resolutions of the Petaluma City Council Certifying the Final Environmental Impact Report for the Petaluma General Plan 2050 and Adopting the Petaluma General Plan 2050, Rescinding the General Plan 2025, Adopting Findings of Fact, Statement of Overriding Considerations, and the Mitigation Monitoring and Reporting Program​] OKAY. UM, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, WE ARE VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE THIS EVENING, UM, A MAJOR MILESTONE IN A MULTI-YEAR PROCESS, [01:55:01] UM, FOR THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE AND THE ASSOCIATED ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT. UH, SO I AM HERE WITH A TEAM THAT'S PROBABLY STARTING TO LOOK A BIT FAMILIAR, UM, AND THIS PRESENTATION, UM, WE'RE ALL GOING TO HAVE A ROLE. UM, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH OUR PRESENTATION AND THEN, UM, WELCOME QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL. UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO, THE PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, WE'RE HERE, UH, FOR THE COUNCIL TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER RESOLUTIONS FOR ADOPTION. UM, ADOPT A RESOLUTION CERTIFYING THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, AS WELL AS A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE GENERAL PLAN. UM, AND AS PART OF THAT RESOLUTION, IT'S ALSO RESCINDING THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN, ADOPTING FINDINGS OF FACT STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS AND THE MON MITIGATION MONITORING AND REPORTING PROGRAM. SO THAT'S THE ASSOCIATED PIECES OF THE ASSOCIATED ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS THAT, UM, NEEDS ADOPTED AS PART OF THAT, UM, ACTION THIS EVENING. NEXT SLIDE. SO OUR OVERVIEW, UH, TOUCH BRIEFLY ON THE COMMUNITY DRIVEN PLANNING PROCESS. THERE WAS A LOT MORE DETAIL ABOUT THIS IN, UM, THE STAFF REPORT AS WELL AS MANY STAFF REPORTS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL TO DATE, UH, REVIEW COMMUNITY FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED DURING THAT 52 DAY, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD THAT RAN TELL YOUR YOUR LAST HEARING ON MAY 18TH. SO, TOUCH ON A SUMMARY OF COMMENTS WE RECEIVED AND SOME RECOMMENDED GENERAL PLAN MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET. IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS, WE HAVE ALSO RECEIVED SOME RECENT PUBLIC COMMENTS OVER THE LA OVER THE WEEKEND, LAST COUPLE DAYS. SO WE WANNA ALSO TOUCH ON SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS THAT HAVE COME IN. UM, AND THEN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE UNDERWAY, SUCH AS THE DIGITAL GENERAL PLAN, UM, WHICH IS AN EXCITING NEXT STEP, BRINGING, UM, PETALUMA KIND OF BRINGING THIS DOCUMENT INTO OUR MORE USABLE FORMAT, UM, FOR A BROADER, A BROADER AUDIENCE, UM, AND SOME OF THE IMPLEMENTATION UNDERWAY. AND THEN I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUES TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT AND THOSE PIECES, FINDINGS AND OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS. AND THEN WE'LL END WITH, AGAIN, THAT RECOMMENDED ACTION AND ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS. SO WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO PASS THE MICROPHONE, UM, TO RON WHITMORE, WHO HAS BEEN, UM, THE PROJECT LEAD ON BEHALF OF THE CONSULTANT TEAM OVER THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS. THANK YOU HEATHER, AND GREAT TO SEE EVERYBODY AGAIN TONIGHT. UM, APPRECIATE YOU MAKING TIME ON YOUR AGENDA FOR US. THIS IS A MOMENTOUS OCCASION. VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE, UM, TOWARDS THE CONCLUSION OF THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE PROCESS. UM, WE HAVE MET WITH YOU MANY, MANY TIMES. UM, AND SO WE'RE NOT GONNA GO INTO GREAT DETAIL ABOUT THE, UM, VERY ROBUST, UM, PLANNING PROCESS THAT INCLUDED SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AS WELL AS, UH, VERY, UH, EXTENSIVE TECHNICAL ANALYSIS. BUT IN SHORT, UM, YOU'VE, YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH A WITH US THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, STARTING WITH CONFIRMING A VISION AND SET OF GUIDING PRINCIPLES, REVIEWING IN DEPTH, UM, DRAFT POLICY, SPENDING BETTER PART OF A YEAR, REVIEWING LAND USE, CHANGE OPTIONS, AND PROVIDING SPECIFIC DIRECTION. UM, AND NOW WE'RE AT THAT POINT, UH, AND THEN WE RELEASED THE DRAFT TO GENERAL PLAN, UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR, WHICH AGAIN WENT THROUGH EXTENSIVE REVIEW ALONG WITH THE DRAFT EIR. AND NOW WE'RE AT THAT FINAL POINT WHERE, UM, BASED ON ALL OF THAT INPUT FROM THE BROAD COMMUNITY AS WELL AS CLEAR DIRECTION FROM YOU, WE'VE PRESENTED A SET OF VERY, UM, RELATIVELY MINOR CHANGE AT THIS POINT BASED ON PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH TO ME INDICATES THAT THE PROCESS WORKED AS DESIGNED. UM, SO WE ARE AT YOUR DISPOSAL THIS EVENING TO ANSWER ANY FINAL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE DRAFT AND PROPOSED REVISED GENERAL PLAN AND FINAL EIR. AGAIN, THERE'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. UM, 40 GPAC MEETINGS, SIX 16 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS, AND I BELIEVE THIS IS THE 16TH MEETING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. UM, AND YOU'VE PROVIDED CRITICAL DIRECTION AT EACH STAGE. I'M GONNA BRIEFLY RECAP SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED DURING THE PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD FOR THE GENERAL PLAN AND EIR, UM, HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY. UM, AS HAS BEEN [02:00:01] THE CASE THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, THERE WAS A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON ALLOWABLE HEIGHTS. UM, MANY COMMENTS WERE FOCUSED SPECIFICALLY ON YOUR DECISION TO, UM, ON A SINGLE PARCEL ADJACENT TO THE SMART STATION DOWNTOWN. UM, APPLY THE STATION MIXED USE DESIGNATION, WHICH ALLOWS UP TO EIGHT STORIES. UM, AND IT'S IN THE DRAFT GENERAL PLAN BASED ON YOUR DIRECTION AT THE END OF LAST YEAR. UM, AND AGAIN IN THE MAY 18TH, UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETING, YOU RECONSIDERED IT AND AGAIN, AFFIRMED YOU WANNA RETAIN THAT DESIGNATION ON THAT PARCEL. THERE ARE ALSO A WHOLE RANGE OF OTHER COMMENTS, UH, COVERING THE GAMUT. UM, SOME RELATED TO AGRICULTURAL LAND AND OPEN SPACE INFILL BUILDING DESIGN, HOW THE GPS GONNA GET IMPLEMENTED, UH, COMMENTS ABOUT HOW TO IMPLEMENT THE GP THROUGH ZONING CODE UPDATES, BICYCLE SAFETY, SOLAR PROGRAMS, AND PUBLIC COMMENT AT CITY MEETINGS. UM, SO BASED ON THAT, STAFF REVIEWED EVERY COMMENT, CONSIDERED IT CAREFULLY, AND IN THE ATTACHMENT TO YOUR STAFF REPORT RECOMMENDED A RANGE OF SUB SUBSTANTIVE AND NON SUBSTANTIVE REVISIONS ON THE NON SUBSTANTIVE SIDE. UM, PEOPLE HAVE LOOKED AT THIS DOCUMENT CAREFULLY AND THERE ARE SOME HOUSES TO BE EXPECTED, UM, CORRECTIONS TO MAKE IN TERMS OF MISSPELLING TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS, MAKING SURE AGENCIES WHOSE NAMES HAVE CHANGED OVER THE COURSE OF THE PLANNING PROCESS, HAVE THEIR UPDATED NAMES INCLUDED, ET CETERA. AND THEN A NUMBER OF VERY USEFUL SUGGESTIONS FOR REFINING, UH, LANGUAGE, ALL OF WHICH, MANY OF WHICH ARE NON SUBSTANTIVE IN NATURE. SO YOU SEE IN THE ATTACHMENT A FEW OF THOSE FOR THE NATURAL FEATURES ELEMENT, THE HISTORIC AND CULTURAL RESOURCES ELEMENT, SAFETY ELEMENT, TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT, AND LAND USE ELEMENT. THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF PROPOSED NEW ACTIONS. UM, THE FIRST ONE IS IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO A COMMENT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TOXIC SUBSTANCE CONTROL. UM, AND YOU SEE IT THERE, IT'S UNDER THE POLICY RELATED TO DISCOURAGING THE USE OF TOXIC MATERIALS, UM, IN THE CITY. AND THEY HAD A A, A VERY HELPFUL SUGGESTION TO, UM, UPDATE THE CODE TO, UM, ENSURE THAT IMPORT IS SOIL AND FILL IS NOT CONTAMINATED. THAT ACTION WAS VERY CONSISTENT WITH AN EXISTING POLICY. THERE'S ALSO A VERY USEFUL, UM, SET OF COMMENTS FROM A FORMER, UM, HISTORIC COMMISSION MEMBER, ONE OF WHICH RESULTED IN A RECOMMENDATION FOR ADDING A NEW ACTION UNDER AN EXISTING POLICY RELATED TO IDENTIFYING AND DESIGNATED HISTORIC RESOURCES. UM, FOCUSING SPECIFICALLY ON, UH, A RANGE OF REMNANT STRUCTURES. FOR EXAMPLE, COBBLESTONE CURBS, RAILROAD TRACKS AND THE LIKE THAT ARE SOMETIMES FOUND, UM, NOT AS A PART OF AN EXISTING HISTORIC DISTRICT OR A HISTORIC BUILDING, BUT WORTH, UM, IDENTIFYING AND POTENTIALLY PRESERVING NONETHELESS. AND SO WE ADDED THIS, UH, SUGGESTED ACTION IN RESPONSE. ALSO, UM, IN THE DOWNTOWN, UH, ON THE EDGE, UH, ON THE WEST MOST WESTERN EDGE OF THE DOWNTOWN IN THE AREA THAT'S DESIGNATED DOWNTOWN MIXED USE, THERE ARE SOME PROPERTIES WHERE FLEXIBILITY IN THE APPLICATION OF THAT, UH, DESIGNATION IS WARRANTED VERY MUCH CONSISTENT WITH AN EXISTING POLICY RELATED TO ENCOURAGING THE EFFICIENT USE OF HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE LAND. AND SPECIFICALLY THE PROPOSED NEW ACTION IS TO ADD TO THE LIST OF UPDATES TO THE ZONE, UH, MUNICIPAL CODE TOOLS FOR EXAM. FOR EXAMPLE, AN OVERLAY THAT WOULD ALLOW A HUNDRED PERCENT RESIDENTIAL AND OR OTHER FLEXIBILITY WITH THE MINIMUM GROUND FLOOR ACTIVE USE REQUIREMENTS AND PROPERTIES DESIGNATED. UH, DTMU ALSO, COUNCIL'S DIRECTION HAS BEEN CONSISTENT OVER THE YEARS AT ENSURING THAT THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE MAP IS CONSISTENT WITH AND SUPPORTIVE OF THE PLANS OF THE RIVER PARK FOUNDATION. MOST RECENTLY, THE FOUNDATION HAS CONFIRMED THAT THE DESIGNATION THEY WOULD PREFER FOR THEIR, UM, PARCELS IN THE VICINITY OF HOPPER ARE THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE DESIGNATION. AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER RECOMMENDED ADJUSTMENT TO THE GENERAL PLAN. AND THEN, UM, ONE, I ALSO WANTED [02:05:01] TO REVISIT THE, UM, UH, SUITE OF STRATEGIES THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDERED AT LENGTH RELATED TO THE UPPER PORTION OF THE RIVER, BECAUSE THERE WAS, WERE COMMENTS THAT CAME IN RELATED TO THE RIVER BUFFER. UM, AND THESE ARE SLIDES FROM, UH, PREVIOUS MEETINGS WHERE YOU BASICALLY SUGGEST ASK STAFF TO, UH, TAKE A TWO-PRONGED APPROACH WITH THE, UH, UPPER SECTIONS OF THE RIVER, THE LONG-TERM STRATEGIES BEING SUPPORT EFFORTS TO, UM, ADVANCE THE PETALUMA GREENWAY PROJECT, BUT ALSO OVER TIME ACQUIRE AND OR COLLABORATE WITH PARTNERS TO PURSUE ACQUISITION OF, UH, OPEN SPACE VACANT PARCELS ALONG THE RIVER. AND THEN MORE IN THE NEAR TERM, APPLY A NO BUILD RESILIENCE AREA, 330 FOOT RIVER BUFFER, AND BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE, UM, PROPOSED LOCATIONS OF FUTURE RIVER PARKS AND THE, UH, NEED FOR ALLOWING AND RETAINING SPACE FOR A RIVER, A GREEN WHALE ALONG THE RIVER IN ADDITION TO NOISE MITIGATION MEASURES. AND, UH, PROVIDING LAND USE FLEXIBILITY TO ENCOURAGE RESIDENTIAL, UH, CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO MAINTAIN OPEN SPACE AND KEEP A DEVELOPMENT AWAY FROM THE RIVER. AND SO THE DRAFT GENERAL PLAN, UM, INCLUDED A, UH, USE OF A BUFFER AREA, AND THIS IS THE DIRECTION YOU PROVIDED FOR US BACK AT THE END OF 2025. AND THERE WERE SOME VERY GOOD QUESTIONS RAISED BY PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THAT BUFFER AREA. AND IN DISCUSSING IT WITH, UH, WITH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS AND LOOKING AGAIN AT THE DEFINITION OF BUFFER AREAS, WE'RE RECOMMENDING A SLIGHT ADJUSTMENT IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE DEFINITION OF BUFFER AREAS SIMPLY TO CLARIFY THE INTENT, NOT TO CHANGE THE DIRECTION OR THRUST OF THE POLICY, JUST TO MAKE IT AS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE HOW THE POLICY IS APPLIED ON VACANT PARCELS WITHIN THE BUFFER AREA. UM, ALSO JUST, JUST TO REMIND FOLKS SINCE YOU DISCUSSED THIS AT SEVERAL MEETINGS, BUT JUST TO REMIND YOU OF THE, THE DIRECTION YOU PROVIDED US PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THE STATION MIXED USE DESIGNATION IN DECEMBER, AND AGAIN REAFFIRMED IN MAY OF THIS YEAR, UM, YOU WANTED TO INCLUDE THE NEW DESIGNATION CALLED STATION MIXED USE, WHICH ALLOWS UP TO FIVE STOR, EXCUSE ME, EIGHT STORIES, AN FAR OF 5.0, UM, AND WOULD BE APPLIED JUST TO A SINGLE PARCEL, UH, ADJACENT TO THE DOWNTOWN SMART STATION. UM, AND BASED ON PREVIOUS COUNSEL DIRECTION, WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING A CHANGE TO THAT PARCEL. UM, AND JUST REMINDING FOLKS THAT, UM, FROM A BIG PICTURE PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS A NATURAL INCREMENTAL CHANGE FROM THE ALLOWED SIX STORIES, UM, IN MANY PARTS OF THE CENTRAL PETALUMA SPECIFIC PLAN AREA. UM, AND IT'S ONLY APPLIED TO A SINGLE PARCEL AND THAT THE DESIGNATIONS THROUGH THE FAR AND UH, ESTABLISHED MINIMUM MAXIMUM DENSITIES, UM, PROVIDE SUFFICIENT PROTECTIONS TO REGULATE THE FORM OF FUTURE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT SITE. AND AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA PASS IT BACK TO HEATHER, WHO'S GONNA ADDRESS SOME OF THE MORE RECENT COMMENTS RECEIVED. THANK YOU, RON. UM, SO IN THE LAST, UH, COUPLE DAYS, END OF LAST WEEK, UM, AND OVER THE WEEKEND WE DID RECEIVE SEVERAL COMMENTS, UM, FOCUSED AROUND THE PROPOSED, UM, LAND USE DESIGNATIONS ALONG PETALUMA BOULEVARD NORTH, UH, NORTH OF SHASTA. SO WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE, UM, TO JUST KIND OF FOCUS IN ON THAT AREA, TALK ABOUT, UM, SOME OF WHAT'S PROPOSED. UM, BRIAN HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, SO I ALSO WANNA, UM, TURN THE MIC OVER TO HIM IN A MINUTE TO, UM, SUMMARIZE THAT AND PROVIDE SOME, UM, JUST SOME FURTHER BACKGROUND FOR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING. SO THIS IS SHOWING, UM, THAT AREA, UM, THE, THE FIRST VISUAL IS EXISTING LAND USES. AND SO ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE PROCESSES WE WENT THROUGH WAS TO IDENTIFY WHAT LAND USES ARE IN EXISTENCE, UM, BEFORE WE, UM, LOOKED AT THE PROPOSED LAND USE, UM, DESIGNATIONS. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A LOT OF COLORS IN A PRETTY SMALL, UM, SECTION OF THIS AREA, AND THAT'S REALLY REPRESENTING THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT LAND USES HAPPENING HERE. UM, SO YOU'VE GOT, UM, COMMERCIAL, YOU'VE GOT INDUSTRIAL, UM, YOU'VE GOT SOME RESIDENTIAL, YOU'VE GOT UM, YOU'VE GOT SOME, [02:10:01] UH, OFFICE, SO YOU'VE GOT A, A, A REAL VARIETY. THE SECOND, UH, GRAPHIC IS THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN, UM, DESIGNATION. SO YOU'LL SEE IN THIS AREA, MUCH OF THE AREA IS CURRENTLY INDUSTRIAL. UM, ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, EXCEPTION IS ACTUALLY, UM, THE SLAUGHTERHOUSE PROPERTY, WHICH IS ACTUALLY CURRENTLY DESIGNATED FOR MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S KIND OF AT THE TOP END OF THAT. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT, UM, THE MIXED USE DESIGNATION CLOSER TO SHASTA, UM, AND A COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL THAT IS THAT RED ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BOULEVARD IN THIS AREA. UM, SO WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, AND THIS HAS BEEN UNCHANGED, UH, SINCE THE, UM, I BELIEVE 2024 IS WHEN THE, THE LAND USE, UM, MAP WAS COMING TOGETHER, THAT DARK, UH, MAROON COLOR IS MAKER MICRO BUSINESS. UM, AND SO THAT IS ACROSS MUCH OF THE INDUSTRIAL AREA WITH THE IDEA THAT THE MAKER MICRO BUSINESS, UM, DESIGNATION AND THE IMPLEMENTING ZONING FOR THAT WOULD REALLY PROVIDE A GREAT LEVEL OF FLEXIBILITY, UM, FOR THESE AREAS WITH THIS DESIGNATION, A GREATER LEVEL OF FLEXIBILITY THAN WE OFTEN FIND IN OUR CURRENT CODE. UM, ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT OUR CURRENT CODE IS IT IDENTIFIES COMMERCIAL, IT IDENTIFIES OFFICE, IT IDENTIFIES, UH, INDUSTRIAL, AND IT OFTEN DOESN'T LET MULTIPLE OF THOSE USES COEXIST IN THE SAME AREA. UM, SO SOMETHING WE LOOKED AT, UM, RECENTLY AS A CITY WAS, UM, UM, HERITAGE SALVAGE AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR A NEW LOCATION AND WE KEPT RUNNING INTO THIS ISSUE. WHEN WE'D FIND A SITE THAT ACCOMMODATED THE INDUSTRIAL ASPECTS OF THAT BUSINESS, IT WOULDN'T ALLOW THE RETAIL ASPECTS. AND IF YOU FOUND A PLACE THAT ALLOWED THOSE MORE COMMERCIAL RETAIL ASPECTS THAT WOULDN'T ALLOW THE INDUSTRIAL. SO WE KNOW THAT WE RUN INTO THIS WITH OUR CURRENT, UM, OUTDATED ZONING. AND SO REALLY LOOKING AT THE MAKER MICRO, UM, BUSINESS AS AN AREA THAT WOULD ALLOW A GREAT LEVEL OF FLEXIBILITY. YOU ALSO SEE, UH, THE LIGHT PURPLE, UM, SOUTH OF CENTER BAR THAT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL MIXED USE. UM, SO THAT IS LOOKING, THE IDEA ALONG THE BOULEVARD WAS TRANSITIONING AS YOU GOT FURTHER AWAY FROM DOWNTOWN FROM A MORE INTENSE MIXED USE. UM, AND AS YOU WENT NORTH, IT, UM, KIND OF DECREASED IN DENSITY AND INTENSITY TO A LOWER, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE, WHICH IS THAT LIGHTER PURPLE. SIMILARLY ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET. UM, MUCH OF THAT COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL GOING TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE. SO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED ARE CONCERNS ABOUT EXISTING BUSINESSES. HOW DO THEY FIT IN? UH, HOW DO THEY ENSURE THAT THEIR BUSINESS CAN STAY DESPITE CHANGES? SO REALLY WANNA SPEND A LITTLE TIME, UM, FOCUSED ON THAT. THE INTENTION WITH THESE CHANGES WAS NOT TO, UM, TO MAKE BUSINESSES NON-CONFORMING OR LIMIT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR BUSINESSES TO STAY. SO, UM, NEXT SLIDE. UM, WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE TO FOCUS ON THE MAKER MICRO BUSINESS, UM, REALLY, AND THIS, UM, WE ARE SIMULTANEOUSLY WORKING ON UPDATES TO THE ZONING CODE. SO ACTUALLY TOMORROW NIGHT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS, UM, DOING, UM, A FIRST LOOK AND DISCUSSION ON THE DRAFT ZONING CODE. SO THE MAKER MICRO BUSINESS, WHICH IS MUCH OF THAT EXISTING INDUSTRIAL, IS PROPOSED AS MAKER MICRO BUSINESS. THE INTENT OF THAT IS REALLY TO CREATE, UM, A FLEXIBLE, SUPPORTIVE FOR LOCAL ECONOMIC ACTIVITIES. AND IT REALLY ALLOWS ALMOST ALL NON-RESIDENTIAL USES. IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS U THIS DESIGNATION IN QUITE SOME DETAIL PREVIOUSLY IN TERMS OF, UM, WHAT WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. OUR HOTELS RESIDENTIAL, UM, HEAVY INDUSTRY, HEAVY INDUSTRY IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ALLOWED IN OUR CODE. CURRENTLY, OUR CODE REALLY TOPS OUT AT A MEDIUM, UM, INTENSITY, UM, INDUSTRIAL USES. SO THAT'S NOT AS SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. IT'S NOT TAKING SOMETHING THAT WE CURRENTLY ALLOWED AND TAKING IT AWAY. SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE INDUSTRIAL AREA IN ALONG PETALUMA BOULEVARD NORTH, THIS SEEMED LIKE A GREAT, UM, A GREAT PLACE FOR MAKER MICRO BUSINESS. 'CAUSE [02:15:01] IT ALLOWED MANY OF THOSE INDUSTRIAL USES WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF, OF THIS, UM, DESIGNATION AND ZONING CODE. UM, IT ACTUALLY IS LOOKING AT A, A, A PRETTY INNOVATIVE APPROACH. UM, VERY DIFFERENT FROM OUR OTHER, UM, ZONING DISTRICT. SO THAT IS THAT WE'VE GOT A DRAFT THAT'S BEEN PUBLISHED. IT WILL BE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TOMORROW. UM, BUT REALLY THOUGHT THAT ALL OF THOSE INDUSTRIAL USES IN THERE, UM, WOULD BE ABLE TO STAY UNDER THE MAKER MICRO BUSINESS. BRIAN, DO YOU WANNA SUMMARIZE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUTREACH? THANKS, HEATHER. MY NAME IS BRIAN O DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. I SEE THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, IN THE AUDIENCE. SO I'D LOVE TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY IF THEY CHOOSE, UH, DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. UH, BUT I DID SPEND, YOU KNOW, A FEW HOURS THIS AFTERNOON, UM, IN RESPONSE TO A NUMBER OF THE COMMENTS. I DID NOT GET IN FRONT OF EVERY SINGLE ONE. UM, BUT I THINK THE PRIMARY CONCERN, UH, WHICH HEATHER JUST ADDRESSED IS THE LEGAL NON-CONFORMING, UM, THE INTENT. I MEAN, IF THERE'S A EXISTING BUSINESS, UH, EVEN WITH THE SHIFT, AT LEAST THOSE THAT I, UM, SPOKE WITH, EVEN WITH THE SHIFT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE, UM, THOSE ARE PERMITTED USES EVEN WITHIN THE PROPOSED, UH, ZONING CODE. AND SO THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH THE LEGAL NON-CONFORMING ON THOSE. AGAIN, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A HODGEPODGE THERE. AND SO, UM, I'M HOPEFUL THAT IF OTHERS, UM, IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO CONNECT WITH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE ALSO THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, THERE'S A NUMBER OF PARCELS, UM, THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED TO BE RE-DESIGNATED THROUGH THIS PROCESS. AND, UH, WE'VE REACHED OUT TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM. UM, THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE, UM, ATTEMPTS TO ENGAGE DIRECTLY, UM, AND, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE FROM THE COMMUNITY AND FROM THE COUNCIL, AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS. UM, UM, YEAH, SO THIS SLIDE KIND OF SHOWS THOSE, THOSE THREE, UM, DESIGNATIONS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN, IN THAT AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THERE'S SOME ROOM FOR FLEXIBILITY WHERE SOME OF THOSE LINES MAY BE HAVE BEEN, UM, DESIGNATED MOVING FROM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL OR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE TO THE MAKER MICRO. SO THAT COULD BE PART OF CONVERSATION THIS EVENING. IF, IF THERE IS A, A USE THAT, UH, REALLY SHOULD BE IN MAKER MICRO THAT, UM, IS IN NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE, THAT IS SOMETHING, UM, DEFINITELY HAVE THE LATITUDE FOR DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF CHANGES IN, IN WHERE THAT LINE IS DRAWN. UM, NEXT SLIDE. OH, AND NOW I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO RON TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NEXT STEPS WITH THE DIGITAL GENERAL PLAN. YEAH. JUST REALLY QUICKLY BEFORE WE, UM, HAVE OUR EIR TEAM, UH, BRIEF YOU ON THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, DID JUST WANNA GIVE YOU A PREVIEW OF A COUPLE THINGS COMING UP. SO WHILE WE'VE BEEN, UM, FINALIZING THE GP AND THE EER, WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING ON THE E PLAN OR DIGITAL GENERAL PLAN, UM, THAT HAS BEEN, UH, WE'VE BEEN PLANNING TO DO ALL ALONG. AND THE ADVANTAGE OF THIS IS RATHER THAN HAVE A STATIC PRINTED DOCUMENT OR ONLY A STATIC PRINTED DOCUMENT, IS THE IDEA IS TO HAVE A VERY ACCESSIBLE, DYNAMIC WEBSITE BASED VERSION OF THE GENERAL PLAN AVAILABLE TO PE PEOPLE. SO I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU A QUICK PREVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THAT, WHICH YOU CAN LOOK FORWARD TO THEN SEEING, UM, A FEW MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD AFTER THE GENERAL PLAN IS ADOPTED. UM, SO REALLY QUICKLY, UM, MAIN POINT HERE IS THERE'S GONNA BE MULTIPLE WAYS TO ACCESS THE GENERAL PLAN. ONE IS VIA THE ELEMENTS, UM, WHICH IS THE TYPICAL, UH, UH, WAY IN WHICH PEOPLE WANT, WANNA LOOK, LOOK AT THE LAND USE OR HOUSING ELEMENT OR TRANSPORTATION AS THE CASE MAY BE. BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT MOST PEOPLE COME AT A GENERAL PLAN WITH A PARTICULAR TOPIC OR NEIGHBORHOOD OR AREA IN MIND. AND SO WE ARE ALSO PROVIDING, UM, VERY ACCESSIBLE ROUTES TO SEARCH THE GENERAL PLAN AND FIND WHAT IT SAYS ACROSS A RANGE OF TOPICS. AND SO THAT'S THAT THIRD, UM, HEADING ACROSS THE TOP OF THE, UH, NAVIGATION BAR. LIKEWISE, FOR PLACES, UM, WE KNOW WE, THE, THE PLAN HAS SUB AREAS WITHIN IT AND WITHIN THE GENERAL PLAN, BOTH IN THE LAND USE ELEMENT AS IN IN APPENDIX, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED DIFFERENT GOALS AND POLICIES [02:20:01] THAT SPEAK TO EACH OF THOSE SUB AREAS. AND SO THROUGH THE DIGITAL GP, WE CAN MAKE ALL OF THOSE VERY ACCESSIBLE AND KIND OF MAP BASED AND VISUAL IN NATURE. AND THEN FINALLY, THERE'LL BE A, A LIBRARY OF, OF RESOURCES RELATED TO THE GP AS WELL AS A PAGE, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON PROGRESS MADE IN IMPLEMENTING THE GENERAL PLAN, COUPLED EXAMPLES OF HOW A, A WEB-BASED OR DIGITAL GENERAL PLAN CAN PROVIDE SOME DYNAMISM THAT'S OTHERWISE DIFFICULT TO CONVEY IN PRINT FORMAT. UM, AS YOU KNOW, FROM THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY IN THE GENERAL PLAN, UM, WE ARE VERY, TRY TO BE VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT ORGANIZING THE GP IN A SERIES OF CHAPTERS, WHICH VERY MUCH KIND OF LAYER UPON ONE ANOTHER, STARTING WITH THE NATURAL AND HISTORIC AND, UH, AND RESILIENCE BASE, AND THEN LAND USE AND THEN INFRASTRUCTURE ON TOP OF THAT. AND SO THERE'LL BE A PAGE THAT VISUALLY DEMONSTRATES THAT, THAT INTERCONNECTION AND, AND HOLISTIC APPROACH TO THE GENERAL PLAN SO THAT PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND PARTICULAR ELEMENTS OR TOPICS WITHIN THE GP WITHIN THIS BROADER FRAMEWORK ABOUT A WHOLE SYSTEMS APPROACH TO THINKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THEIR CITY. AND THEN WITHIN EACH, UM, ELEMENT, IN ADDITION TO OBVIOUSLY HAVING EASY LINKS TO MAPS AND OTHER RESOURCES, THERE'LL BE A CASCADING APPROACH WHERE PEOPLE CAN KIND OF VERY QUICKLY AND EASILY ZOOM IN AND OUT BETWEEN GOALS, POLICIES, AND ACTIONS. YOU DON'T SEE IT SO MUCH HERE, BUT WE'RE GONNA USE THE SAME APPROACH IN THE VISION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES WHERE IF YOU WERE TO CLICK ON ONE OF THESE PLUS BUTTONS, YOU'D SEE THE TEXT ASSOCIATED WITH THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES, UM, THAT ARE, THAT YOU SEE THE SIGNPOST FOR HERE. SO JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF A WAY IN WHICH THROUGH A WEB-BASED FORMAT, YOU CAN MAKE THE GENERAL PLAN VERY ACCESSIBLE AND MAKE IT REALLY EASY FOR PEOPLE TO FIND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A PREVIEW OF WHAT'S TO COME, AND I'M GONNA TURN IT BACK TO HEATHER AT THIS POINT, WHO'S GONNA GIVE YOU A PREVIEW OF THE ONGOING IMPLEMENTATION. SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY. NEXT SLIDE, RON. UM, ONE BEING THE PETALUMA ZONING REFORM, AS I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED. UM, THAT IS UNDERWAY, UH, WITH TOMORROW NIGHT AT PLANNING COMMISSION. SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT PHASE ONE CURRENTLY, WHICH IS, UM, IMPLEMENTING OBJECTIVE STANDARDS AND TECHNICAL MAPPING FROM THE GENERAL PLAN, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE ZONING RELATED PROGRAMS FROM, UH, THE HOUSING ELEMENT AND THE BLUEPRINT FOR CLIMATE ACTION. UM, ALSO MAKING SURE THAT, UM, ANY INCONSISTENCIES WITH STATE LAW IS UPDATED IN OUR CODE. UM, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED MANY TIMES, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT COMING OUT OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, UM, AND IMPORTANT TO KEEP OUR, UM, ZONING CODE, UM, UP TO DATE AND TRANSPARENT, UM, FOR SYNCING UP WITH THOSE. AND THEN ALSO, UH, AS PART OF PHASE ONE IS THOSE HIGHEST PRIORITY REGULATORY NEEDS RELATED TO HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO, UM, THAT IS WHAT'S UNDERWAY ALREADY. AND YOU'LL SEE IN THE GENERAL PLAN, MANY OF THE ACTIONS CALL FOR UPDATES TO THE ZONING CODE, UM, TO IMPLEMENT THE INTENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN. NEXT SLIDE. NORTH PETALUMA STATION SPECIFIC PLAN IS ALSO, UM, UNDERWAY. SO WE'VE HAD SOME INITIAL WORKSHOPS, THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH PARTNERS WORKING GROUP WAS FORMED AND HAS MET, UM, THE EXISTING CONDITIONS REPORT IS AVAILABLE. UM, SO, UM, THAT HAS BEEN, UH, AN EXCITING, UM, PLANNING EFFORT, UM, AROUND PETALUMA'S SECOND STATION. NEXT SLIDE. UH, ALSO CURRENTLY, UM, GETTING READY TO REALLY KICK OFF THE CENTRAL PETALUMA SPECIFIC PLAN UPDATE. THIS IS ANOTHER GRANT FUNDED, UM, PROJECT. UM, AND IT'S TO UPDATE THE EXISTING SPECIFIC PLAN AS WELL AS THE ASSOCIATED SMART CODE. AND SIMILARLY, UH, THE FAIRGROUNDS MASTER PLAN, WHICH KICKED OFF AND THE VISION AND CONCEPT DEVELOPMENT IS UNDERWAY, UM, WITH THAT. SO THESE ARE ALL, UM, ACTIONS THAT ARE REFERENCED IN THE GENERAL PLAN THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON, UM, FOR IMPLEMENTATION. AND FINALLY, INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCING. SO THIS WILL BE A NEXT STEP AFTER ADOPTION OF THE GENERAL PLAN. THIS IS LOOKING AT, UM, IMPACT FEES AND MAKING SURE WE UPDATE THOSE S SYNCED UP WITH, UM, THE GENERAL PLAN. UM, SO WE HAVE THOSE, UM, SET AND UPDATED, UM, TO HELP US FUND THE VISION FOR THE CITY. AND I THINK NOW IT'S TIME TO TALK ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS, AND I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO MATT MADDOX. THANK YOU, HEATHER. UH, GOOD, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH, HAPPY TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN. UM, NEXT SLIDE. RON, I'LL BE KIND OF WALKING THROUGH A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF OUR SQL PROCESS THAT [02:25:01] DUE TO THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, BECAUSE THERE IS A DISCRETIONARY ACTION ON THE GENERAL PLAN AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT WAS ALSO PREPARED, COUPLED WITH, UM, THE PROCESS AND ANALYZES THE IMPACTS OF THE, OF THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE. UM, I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE ARE AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THIS GRAPHIC, WHICH WE'VE SHOWN MANY, MANY TIMES BEGINNING WAY BACK A YEAR PLUS AGO WHEN WE BEGAN THE NOTICE OF PREPARATION PROCESS AND SCOPING PERIOD. UM, IF YOU'LL RECALL, BACK IN THE SPRING WHEN WE MET, UH, WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE THERE IN THE GREEN DURING THE PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD OF THE DRAFT EIR. SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE PREPARED THE FINAL EER, WHICH CONCLUDES A NUMBER OF DOCUMENTS. THE FIRST THING IS ACTUALLY RESPONDING TO ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED AS PART OF THAT, AND WE'LL SUMMARIZE SOME OF THOSE HERE IN A SECOND. UM, THE NEXT PIECE IS ACTUALLY DEVELOPING A MITIGATION MONITORING REPORTING PROGRAM. THAT'S A SUMMARY OF ALL THE MITIGATION MEASURES AND DESIGNATING WHICH, UH, WHICH KEY CITY STAFF OR DEPARTMENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTING THOSE MITIGATION MEASURES. AND WHEN, UM, WHEN INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS COME FORWARD AT LATER DATES, WHETHER THAT'S NEXT WEEK OR 20 YEARS FROM NOW, WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR IMPLEMENTING THE MITIGATION MEASURES THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE EIR. UM, WE ALSO DEVELOPED AND, UM, HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, THE FINDINGS OF FACT AND STATEMENT OF OVERRID CONSIDERATIONS FOR SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS. AND WE'LL SUMMARIZE SOME OF THOSE IN A SECOND AS WELL. SO, KEY THING HERE IS TONIGHT, UM, UH, BEFORE YOU IS A HEARING AND DECISION ON THE PROJECT, BUT ALSO A, A DECISION TO BE MADE ON WHETHER TO CERTIFY THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT BEFORE YOU'RE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE. NEXT SLIDE. SO, QUICK SUMMARY OF, OF THE PROCESS, UM, AGAIN, JUST, UH, AS NOTED, SQL REQUIRES THAT ANY PROJECT, UM, AT MUST DO AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, A, AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, AND SPECIFICALLY A PROGRAMMATIC ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, WHICH IS A WIDE ENCOMPASSING, UH, OF ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN, UM, WAS PERFORMED. UM, WHAT I DO WANNA NOTE IS THAT WHAT, WHERE WE COULD IDENTIFY MITIGATION MEASURES TO REDUCE IMPACTS TO LESS SIGNIFICANT LEVELS, THERE ARE SOME INSTANCES WHERE IMPACTS REMAIN SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE EVEN AFTER MITIGATION IS IMPLEMENTED. AND THAT INCLUDES CULTURAL AND HISTORIC RESOURCES SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO HISTORIC BUILDINGS, UH, GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS NOISE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION NOISE AND TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC. UM, THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE HAD A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR 52 DAYS RUNNING THROUGH LATE MARCH TO MID-MAY. UM, AND AT THIS POINT NOW WE'VE RESPONDED TO COMMENTS, AND THAT IS BEFORE YOU AS PART OF THE FINAL AR. AND WE PUBLISHED THE FINAL AR ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, AND WE ALSO NOTIFIED ALL COMMENTERS ABOUT THE, UM, FINAL AR AND THE RESPONSES THAT WERE WITHIN THOSE NEXT SLIDE. SO WE RECEIVED 54 COMMENT LETTERS, INCLUDING FROM INDIVIDUALS AND FROM FIVE PUBLIC AGENCIES. UM, WE'VE GOT A, A WIDE RANGE OF COMMENTS, UM, ACROSS THE BOARD. WE RESPONDED TO COMMENTS, SOME IN, IN MANY CASES IT WAS ASKING A QUESTION OR CLARIFICATION IN SOME INSTANCES, PERHAPS A, UH, DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT THAN WHAT IS PROPOSED AS PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN. AND IN SOME CASES, THERE WERE CORRECTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS OR SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO UPDATE THE EIR ANALYSIS. UM, ALL OF THE COMMENTS WERE RESPONDED TO AND ARE NUMBERED ACCORDINGLY. UM, THE CHANGES THAT WERE UPDATED IN THE IEIR WERE, WERE, UM, MINOR IN SUBSTANCE AND, AND MEANING DID NOT ALTER SIGNIFICANTLY THE, THE FINDINGS OR THE ANALYSIS IN, IN MANY WAYS, BUT WERE CLARIFYING IN THAT THEY ACTUALLY HELPED INFORM THE ANALYSIS OR STAND BY THE ANALYSIS. SO WHILE WE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF GREAT COMMENTS AS IT RELATES TO WATER SUPPLY OR UTILITIES, THOSE ARE OFTEN, UM, UPDATING, UPDATING THE ANALYSIS TO CONFIRM SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE FINDINGS OR SUGGESTING NEW SOURCES OF INFORMATION THAT WE THEN ADDED AND PROVIDED, BUT IT DID NOT ACTUALLY ALTER OR INCREASE ANY OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. THE POINT THERE IS IF THERE WAS NEW INFORMATION THAT REQUIRED A CHANGE OF THE ANALYSIS, WE WOULDN'T NECESS WE WOULD POTENTIALLY NEED TO RECIRCULATE THE DOCUMENT IF THERE WERE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES THAT WARRANTED, UH, SUCH A RECIRCULATION. WE DID NOT HAVE ANY OF THOSE. UM, ALL OF THE CHANGES WERE MINOR AND ARE, AND ARE SUMMARIZED IN THE AGENDA EROTA SECTION OF THE FINAL IR NEXT SLIDE. THIS JUST LAYS OUT AS A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE CONTENTS OF THE FINAL EIR ARE. UM, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE, UM, FINAL EIR IS A SHORTER VERSION OF THE EIR, BUT THE DRAFT EIR AND ALL OF THE ANALYSIS, THE VERY DETAILED, UH, TECHNICAL ANALYSIS OF ALL THE SECTIONS, UM, INCLUDING ALL THE APPENDICES, ARE STILL A PART OF THE FINAL AR. THEY ARE SIMPLY LISTED AS A, AS A, UM, SUPPLEMENTAL DOCUMENT. SO BEFORE YOU IS THE FINAL I AR, BUT THE DRAFT I IS STILL PART OF THAT. AND ANY CHANGES THAT WERE NOTED ARE IN THE EROTA SECTION IN SECTION THREE. THE ALSO THE OTHER POINT TOO IS THAT WE DO HAVE THE MITIGATION MONITORING REPORTING PROGRAM AS PART OF THAT, THAT IS ALSO A PART OF THE FINDINGS DOCUMENT AND WILL CARRY FORWARD AND BE A, A LIVING [02:30:01] DOCUMENT FOR THE CITY FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. NEXT SLIDE. SO BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, UM, WE HAVE, UH, TWO RESOLUTIONS. THE FIRST ONE BEING THE, THE SQL RESOLUTION, UM, THAT THE EIR IS NOW BEFORE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER CERTIFICATION. UM, AND THEN PART OF THE, UH, GENERAL PLAN RESOLUTION IS ALSO CONNECTS TO THE EIR AND THAT THERE ARE FINDINGS OF FACT, AND THOSE ARE RECITALS THAT DOCUMENT THE PROCESS, INCLUDING THE KEY DATES AND MILESTONES THAT FINDINGS THAT THE CITY, UH, THAT, THAT CONFIRMS. THE CITY HAS COMPLIED WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS OF CE QA THAT THE CITY HAS RESPONDED TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED DURING THE PUBLIC PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS, AND THAT MITIGATION MEASURES HAVE BEEN PRESCRIBED AND A MITIGATION MONITORING REPORTING PROGRAM WILL BE ADOPTED. THE LAST PIECE IS REGARDING A STATEMENT OF OVER VARIETY CONSIDERATIONS. AND THAT DUE TO, UM, THE, THE, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT, UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS, WE ARE IDENTIFYING THAT THE BENEFITS OF THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE ACTUALLY OUTWEIGH ITS SIGNIFICANT, UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS RELATED TO CULTURAL, HISTORIC RESOURCES, GREENHOUSE GASES, NOISE AND TRANSPORTATION. AND THOSE BENEFITS INCLUDE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC CONSIDERATIONS, PROVIDING A MIX OF HOUSING, JOB OPPORTUNITIES, UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, PRESERVING AND ENHANCING HUMAN AND NATURAL RESOURCES, UM, THE PROTECTING WATERWAYS WITHIN THE CITY, CULTURAL RESOURCES, OPEN SPACE, AND AS WELL AS FISCAL BENEFITS. THOSE ARE ALL DETAILED IN THE STATEMENT OF A RANK CONSIDERATIONS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE, OF THE FINDINGS OF FACT. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO HEATHER. SO WE'RE AT THE END OF OUR, UM, PRESENTATION. UM, JUST TO TOUCH BACK ON THE RECOMMENDED ACTION. SO, UM, CONDUCTING A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, ON THE GENERAL PLAN AND ASSOCIATED FEIR, UH, AS MATT MENTIONED, THE FIRST RESOLUTION BEFORE THE COUNCIL IS TO CERTIFY THE EIR, THE FINAL EIR. THE SECOND RESOLUTION IS TO ADOPT THE GENERAL PLAN WITH THE RECOMMENDED REVISIONS. AND JUST FOR, TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR, THE DRAFT GENERAL PLAN HAS NOT CHANGED. INSTEAD THERE'S THE DRAFT GENERAL PLAN AND THERE'S A MEMO, WHICH IS EXHIBIT D TWO, ATTACHMENT TWO. THAT IS THAT LIST OF, UM, MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED. THOSE WERE ALSO OUTLINED AND DISCUSSED IN DETAIL IN THE STAFF REPORT. AND TOGETHER THOSE TWO THINGS WOULD MAKE THE FINAL GENERAL PLAN AS PART OF THAT ACTION ALSO INCLUDES RESCINDING THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN, UM, AND ADOPTING THE FINDINGS OF FACT STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS AND THE MITIGATION MONITORING AND REPORTING PROGRAM. NEXT SLIDE. PLEASE WANTED TO, BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A SIGNIFICANT MILESTONE IN THIS PROJECT, AND THIS PROJECT IS REALLY, UM, WE COULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN HERE WITHOUT SO MUCH HELP AND SUPPORT AND BRAINSTORMING AND COLLABORATION, UM, FROM A VARIETY OF, UM, BOTH INTERNAL TO THE CITY AND EXTERNAL. SO, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS, UH, AS RON MENTIONED, I BELIEVE WE HAD 16 MEETINGS, SOMETHING CLOSE TO THAT WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION THROUGH THIS PROCESS. SO, UM, A LOT OF GREAT INPUT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. A LOT OF TIME, UM, SPENT REVIEWING AND CONSIDERING, UM, VERY LENGTHY PACKETS . WE ALSO, AS YOU MAY RECALL, WE WENT TO ALMOST ALL OF THE COMMITTEE'S, COMMISSIONS AND, AND BOARDS, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T REALLY HAVE BOARDS, UM, BUT COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS PER SE, UM, WITH, WITH, UM, THE POLICY FRAMEWORKS TO GET THEIR INPUT, UM, EARLY IN THIS. SO, UM, UH, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND THANK YOU TO THAT LONG LIST OF COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS, UM, THAT WERE PART OF THIS, UM, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TO CITY STAFF FROM ALL DEPARTMENTS. THIS IS NOT, THIS IS A GENERAL PLAN. THIS IS THE, THE OVERRIDING VISION FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S DONE BY ONE DEPARTMENT IN A SILO. THIS TAKES THE ENTIRE CITY. SO WE WORKED WITH CITY STAFF FROM ALL DEPARTMENTS AND CANNOT THANK THEM ENOUGH FOR THEIR INPUT, UM, THEIR TIME, THEIR, UM, RESOURCES, THEIR, UM, COLLABORATION, UM, AND THE CONSULTANT TEAM. SO RON WITH RAMIAN ASSOCIATES, UM, AND HIT THE LIST OF, UM, SUB CONSULTS AS PART OF THAT TEAM. UM, THIS WAS A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF, UH, RAMI BEING SELECTED AS THE CONSULTANT. WE HAD A LONG LIST OF WISHES WHEN WE PUT THAT, THAT RFP AND, UM, REMY PUT TOGETHER A, A REALLY, UM, INCREDIBLE GROUP OF SUBS, UM, TO TOUCH ON ALL THOSE. [02:35:01] NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND THEN REALLY WANTED A SPECIAL THANKS TO THE GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. UM, I, I BELIEVE THIS, WHEN THEY FIRST CAME ON, IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE MAXIMUM TWO YEARS AND I CAN'T REMEMBER, 12 MEETINGS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEY STUCK WITH US AND WE DID A TOTAL OF 40 MEETINGS WITH THE GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. SO THIS WAS REALLY, UM, THE HEAVY LIFTERS IN THIS, UM, AND SOME GREAT CONVERSATION, UM, SOME GREAT EXPLORING OPTIONS AND REFINING RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I THINK, UM, JUST MADE THIS PLAN, UM, WHAT IT IS. SO DEFINITELY WANT TO, A SPECIAL THANKS TO THE GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON THIS EFFORT. AND WITH THAT MAYOR, UM, I WILL TURN IT BACK TO YOU, UM, FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE PRIOR TO PUBLIC COMMENT OR DIRECTLY TO PUBLIC COMMENT, WHATEVER WORKS. OKAY. OKAY. UM, GREAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT, IT IS A, A MILESTONE DATE HERE AND, AND, UH, I APPRECIATE YOU THANKING THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, UH, AND, AND GPAC MEMBERS, UH, MANY OF WHOM ARE IN THE ROOM TONIGHT WITH US. AND SO THANKS FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. UM, AND THEN, UM, IT'S, ARE THERE QUESTIONS BEF LET'S, LET'S, UH, MAYBE WE'LL, WE WILL, WE'LL, UH, ACTUALLY FOCUS ON SEPARATING QUESTIONS FROM COMMENTS TONIGHT SO THAT WE CAN, UH, UM, HAVE MORE DIALOGUE WHEN WE'RE IN COMMENTS AND MORE SUCCINCT QUESTIONS FIRST. SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR QUESTIONS FIRST. COUNCIL MEMBER QUINT. THANK YOU. UM, CAN YOU, CAN YOU, UH, BRING THE SLIDE UP THAT SHOWS THE EXISTING, SO NORTH PETALUMA BOULEVARD, THE EXISTING, THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN, THE PROPOSED GENERAL PLAN. IS THAT POSSIBLE? YES. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK ME WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS IS OUR EXISTING USE IS, AS YOU YOU DESCRIBED IT, IT'S A, IT'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT USES. AND YOU KNOW, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S, THAT'S A, A GOOD THING. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CURRENT GEN GENERAL PLAN, IT PORTRAYS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING THE CURRENT EXISTING USES. UH, AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROPOSED GENERAL PLAN, THE PURPLE IS THE MAKER MICRO BUSINESS, RIGHT, WHICH CORRECT. WE'RE ENCOURAGING WITH THAT SORT OF A VARIETY. MY QUESTION IS, ARE THERE EXISTING BUSINESSES THAT ARE LEGAL NON-CONFORMING TODAY? BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE DOING DOESN'T REALLY MATCH THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN THAT WOULD THEN BECOME CONFORMING BECAUSE OF THE NEW DESIGNATION? UM, THEORETICALLY, SO WE, WE HAVE NOT PULLED, LIKE LOOKED FOR USE PERMITS OR, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS FOR EVERY PROPERTY. BUT I THINK THE, UM, THE, UH, THE OLD SLAUGHTERHOUSE, I THINK IS A GOOD EXAMPLE THERE. THAT IS A USE THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY AND, AND, UH, MANY OF THE, UM, PRINCIPLES THAT WENT INTO DISCUSSION ABOUT AG SUPPORT, UM, AND IT'S CURRENTLY DESIGNATED FOR HOUSING. UM, SO THAT, THAT IS A NONCONFORMING USE, UM, AND IS MORE, UM, ALIGNED WITH THE FLEXIBILITY IN THE MAKER MICRO BUSINESS, UM, DESIGNATION THAN IT WOULD BE IN THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. SO THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE THERE. THANK YOU. IT, IT, UM, YEAH, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME LIKE THE NEW NEWER DESIGNATION MAY SUPPORT MORE OR BE MORE ALIGNED WITH WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING TODAY. SO THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTION. THAT'S IT. AND IF I COULD ONE, FOLLOW UP. UM, SO THE GENERAL PLAN MAKES THAT DISTINCT DIFFERENCE HERE. NOW WE'RE GONNA, UH, ADOPT A DIFFERENT THING. THE NEW THING IS IT AN, UM, INTENTIONAL LIKE, UH, IT SAYS WE LIKE THIS AS OPPOSED TO TRANSACTIONAL. IT [02:40:01] SAYS, YOU CAN DO THIS. I MEAN, I, I THINK IT'S MORE COMFORTING TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU CAN DO RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, PRESUPPOSE IT TO, UM, UM, A DIALOGUE AT A LATER DATE. SO, UM, AND I, ANDREW IS HERE IN THE BACK IF I, IF I NEED TO CALL A FRIEND, UM, . UM, SO ONE THING IS THE ZONING CODE IS IN DRAFT FORM, SO IT HAS PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL, UM, STILL REVIEWING. UM, SO WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WHAT IS SH SHOWN IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION PACKET IS DRAFT AT THIS POINT, BUT THE INTENT IS TO TRANSITION AWAY FROM A LIST OF PERMITTED USES AND MORE TRANSITION TO AN APPROACH WHERE, UM, ALL NON-RESIDENTIAL USES, EXCEPT FOR A VERY SHORT LIST OF PROHIBITED USES, COULD BE ALLOWED AND THERE TO BE MORE LOOKING AT, UM, IMPACTS, UM, THAT MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL REVIEW INSTEAD OF JUST A LIST THAT SAYS, IF YOU ARE THIS, YOU HAVE TO GET A USE PERMIT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, BUT IT'S, IT'S TRYING TO BUILD A MUCH MORE FLEXIBLE, UM, LESS PROCESS DRIVEN, UM, REGULATORY FRAMEWORK FOR THIS ZONING DISTRICT. GREAT. OKAY. THANKS. COUNCIL MEMBER SCH STRIPS. UM, YEAH, THERE WERE SEVERAL, UM, UM, RESIDENT CITIZENS WHO, UH, CAME FORWARD WITH SORT OF LIKE, UM, UH, QUERIES, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, AND THE LIKE. AND I DON'T THINK THEY WERE FULLY ADDRESSED, SO I, I'D LIKE TO ASK HOPEFULLY THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAD, UH, AND LET YOU ADDRESS THEM. UH, ONE OF 'EM WAS ABOUT OUR, UH, FUTURE WATER USE AND THAT THERE WAS SOME INCONSISTENCIES THAT WAS DISCOVERED BETWEEN MAYBE THE, UH, THE WATER AGENCY, UM, AND THE COUNTY VERSUS THE CITY. AND I WAS WONDERING IF, UM, IF, IF, IF YOU COULD RESPOND TO, TO THAT QUERY AS TO, UH, DO WE HAVE ADEQUATE WATER IN THE FUTURE? IS UM, ARE WE OVER OVERESTIMATING OUR, OUR WATER SOURCE SO THAT WE CAN DO DEVELOPMENT? UM, SO IF YOU COULD RESPOND TO THAT, PLEASE. SURE. HAPPY TO. YEAH. SO, UM, ONE OF THE COMMENTERS, UH, AS PUBLIC AGENCIES WAS SONOMA WATER WHO PROVIDED SOME CLARIFICATIONS, UM, THAT WERE MADE INTO THE FINAL A IR. WHAT I WILL POINT OUT AND, AND A COUPLE COMMENTS THAT CAME IN OVER THE WEEKEND, WERE UNSURE, KIND OF RESPONDING TO SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS. WHAT WE ARE CONFIDENT IS THE WATER SUPPLY ASSESSMENT, THAT'S APPENDIX E OF THE DRAFT EIR THAT WAS PERFORMED WAS A, AN ANALYSIS OF BOTH SONOMA WATER'S URBAN WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN, AS WELL AS PETALUMA'S URBAN WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN. BECAUSE PETALUMA GETS WATER FROM SONOMA WATER, THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE TWO THINGS ALIGN AND ALSO ALIGN WITH THE PROJECTED BUILD OUT OF THE GENERAL PLAN, THE GROWTH THAT'S ANTICIPATED THAT WOULD OCCUR AS PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN IN BOTH OF THOSE DOCUMENTS, THAT IT CONFIRMS THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, UH, RISK CONDITIONS, IN ESSENCE, DROUGHT, FUTURE DROUGHT, YEARS, DROUGHT SCENARIOS. AND IN THOSE DROUGHT SCENARIOS, THERE MAY BE SOME TIMES WHEN THERE IS A, UH, AN OVER EXCEEDANCE OF THE SUPPLY DUE TO DEMAND, BUT THAT THE CITY HAS A NUMBER OF ACTIONS IN PLACE, A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE GENERAL PLAN THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE CITY'S URBAN WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT ARE BUILT INTO SONOMA WATER'S URBAN WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN. AND ALSO, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL PLANS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT WHEN EVEN IN THOSE DRY YEARS OR IN UNCERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES DUE TO CLIMATE CHANGE CONDITIONS OR FUTURE SCENARIOS WHERE THERE IS AN OVERDRAFTING OF WATER SUPPLY, THAT THERE WOULD BE A PLAN IN PLACE TO CORRECT THOSE AND ENSURE THAT THE CITY DOES NOT O EXCEED ITS EXISTING SUPPLY OR, AND FUTURE SUPPLY. SO, SO, SO WE HAVE ADEQUATE, UH, ADAPTATION AND MITIGATION, UM, THAT WE CAN DO. THAT IS CORRECT. AND A AND A NUMBER OF THOSE PROGRAMS ARE LAID OUT BOTH IN THE DRAFT EIR AND THEN SUMMARIZE AS WELL IN THE RESPONSE TO COMMENTS TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE SOME FUTURE ACTIONS. THE, THE REALITY IS THERE IS GONNA BE A TIME WHEN THERE'S SOME UNCERTAINTY AND THE CITY HAS A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THE STEPS ARE, ARE TO BE TAKEN TO ENSURE THAT THOSE, DURING THOSE TIMES THERE IS AN, AN APPROPRIATE PLAN IN PLACE TO AVOID, UM, AN OVER EXCEEDANCE. OKAY. OKAY. THE, UH, THE NEXT ONE WAS, UH, WAS CONCERNED SOME OF ABOUT THE, UH, BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES AND, UH, SPECIES, WILDLIFE CORRIDORS THAT WEREN'T AS DETAILED AS, AS MIGHT BE EXPECTED FROM, UM, WHEN, WHEN PROJECTS ARE COME FORWARD, THEY'RE MUCH MORE, MORE DETAILED AND, AND YET, UM, UH, WE TEND TO DO A MORE OF A SURFACE TREATMENT, MORE VERY, VERY HIGH LEVEL TREATMENT OF THAT WITHOUT REALLY GETTING INTO SPECIFICS OF, OF REAL EVALUATION OR GROUND TRUTHING. UM, AND I WAS WONDERING IS, IS, UM, BECAUSE SOME OF THE, THE CORRIDORS SLIGHTLY MODIFIED FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST, BUT, BUT STILL, [02:45:01] UH, GENERAL AROUND THE CITY, NOT INSIDE THE CITY, UM, AND WHICH DIDN'T EVEN, WHICH WE TALK ABOUT RIPARIAN CORRIDORS AND RIVER CORD, UM, CORRIDORS, UH, FOR, FOR SOME OF THE TRAFFIC, BUT, UM, NOT REALLY. UH, AND NO GROUND TRUTHING REALLY AS TO DO WE REALLY HAVE THAT HERE OR NOT, UM, WITH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ANIMAL SPECIES. SO THE, THE DEPTH OF, UH, THE BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES AND, UM, UH, THE GROUND TOOTHING, UH, WAS THAT REALLY ADEQUATE FOR OUR GENERAL PLAN LEVEL? UH, OR DO WE, OR REALLY DO WE NEED TO GO BACK AND, AND MAYBE, UM, EMPHASIZE AND, AND DO A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK IN THAT AREA? YEAH. AT, AT THIS STAGE IN THE PROCESS OF A GENERAL PLAN, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING OUT AT A HORIZON OF 25 OR 30 YEARS, THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT'S PROVIDED AND THE SOURCES THAT WERE USED AS PART OF THE ANALYSIS ARE ABSOLUTELY ADEQUATE. THEY ARE THE, THE, THE GOLD STANDARD FOR WHAT, WHAT IS UTILIZED. UM, WE CONFIRMED WITH, WITH CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE WHO, WHO MAINTAINS A LOT OF THOSE DATABASES AND THE, AND THE SEARCHES, UM, THEY ACTUALLY HAD SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR MITIGATION MEASURES AND SOME FOR SOME, FOR SOME OF THAT FUTURE GROUND TRUTHING WHEN INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS COME FORWARD, WHAT THAT INDIVIDUAL ANALYSIS WOULD ENTAIL AND WOULD BE PUT ONTO INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS TO DO AT THE TIME PRIOR TO, UM, APPLICATIONS AND, AND DURING THE APPLICATION PROCESS. UM, THE SOURCES, WE DID UPDATE A NUMBER OF SOURCES AS WELL IN THE DOCUMENT. AND, AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT BOTH THE GENERAL PLAN AND, AND THE EIR WITH ITS MITIGATION MEASURES HAVE A NUMBER OF POLICIES AND PROGRAMS THAT NOW WILL LIVE THROUGH THE MITIGATION MONITORING REPORTING PROGRAM AND ARE PRESCRIPTIVE MITIGATION MEASURES WITH A NUMBER OF STEPS INVOLVED. SO WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL PROJECT COMES FORWARD, THERE WILL BE AN INDI A SITE SPECIFIC BIOLOGICAL RESOURCE ASSESSMENT THAT IS REQUIRED, AND THEN A NUMBER OF STEPS BASED ON HOW THAT INITIAL, UH, SEARCH IS PERFORMED, WHAT MAY OCCUR. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE ARE NESTING BIRD BURROWS ON SITE THAT WOULD KICK INTO THE NESTING BIRD REQUIRED SPECIFIC ACTIONS AND MITIGATION MEASURES THAT WOULD NEED TO FOLLOW IN ACCORDANCE WITH CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE, UH, PROTOCOL AND NECESSARY PERMITS THAT MAY HAPPEN THAT WOULD ENSURE THAT DURING CONSTRUCTION, NONE OF THOSE BUROUGHS OR NESTING BIRDS WOULD BE IMPACTED. UM, THERE'S A, A, A LONG, UH, PRESCRIPTIVE LIST OF THOSE MEASURES. I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THAT IS, THAT THE CITY IS DOING ITS ABSOLUTE DUE DILIGENCE AS IT RELATES TO ELECTRICAL RESOURCES. AND IT'S REFLECTED AS PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE AS WELL IN A NUMBER OF THE POLICIES AND PROGRAMS AND ACTIONS, UM, THAT THE BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES AND NATURAL HABITAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY OF PETALUMA. AND THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED BOTH A PLAN AND MITIGATION MEASURES IN THE EIR TO REFLECT THAT AND ENSURE THAT FUTURE PROJECTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN ACTUALLY CARRY OUT THOSE AND REDUCE, UH, REDUCE THE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT TO THE LEVEL POSSIBLE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, OKAY. THERE WAS ANOTHER, UM, UH, BUSINESS OWNER, UM, I THINK IT'S THE OLD MOTORCYCLE SHOP, UH, THAT'S RIGHT THERE ON, ON, UH, PETALUMA BOULEVARD, UH, WHERE IT CROSSES OVER RIGHT NEXT TO, TO THE RIVER. AND, UM, NOT ONLY WAS, IS THE, HAS SHOP BEEN THERE A LONG TIME, BUT THE AREA AROUND IT WAS GRAVEL, I BELIEVE, UM, AND WORKED ON LIKE, USED FOR A LOT OF PARKING AND THINGS. AND SO, UH, THEY'RE LOOKING AT TYPE OF PROPOSALS, THERE'S FLOODWAYS INVOLVED. SO THE QUESTION IS ABOUT, UM, THE, UM, THE CURRENT USE RIGHT NOW BEING THAT HAS BEEN SORT OF LIKE GETTING READY FOR DEVELOPMENT OR DO SOMETHING WITH IT, LIKE, LIKE, UH, THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE, UH, ARE WITH A NEW JOURNAL PLAN WITH THE FLOOD ZONES AND THE LIKE, AND THE MAPPING. UM, IS THAT GONNA PREVENT THEM FROM, UH, FROM THEIR GRANDFATHERING IN, OF, OF THEIR CONCEPTS? OR CAN THEY, WILL THEY HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP SOMETHING? UM, AND WHAT ARE THEIR LIMITATIONS? I THINK THAT'S ME. UM, SO COUNCIL MEMBER SHRI, I BELIEVE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LETTER FROM MR. CABRAL, UM, CORNER OF INDUSTRIAL AND OLD REDWOOD HIGHWAY. UM, SO THAT IS TWO PARCELS THAT ARE OWNED BY THAT PROPERTY OWNER. ONE IS ALREADY DEVELOPED WITH THE BUILDING. UM, SO THAT IS UP AT INDUSTRIAL, THAT HAS BEEN BUILT UP, UM, IS, AND IT, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO NOTHING ABOUT THE RIVER BUFFER, WHICH IS MOST OF WHAT THE CHANGE IS TO THAT PROPERTY IMPACT, THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO USE THE BUILDING, TO CONTINUE TO TENANT THE BUILDING CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND, UM, THE ZONING IN PLACE. THAT PROPERTY DOES HAVE FLOODWAY, BUT IT IS NOT ACROSS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. IT, UM, TAKES UP SOME OF IT. SO THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT ALLOWED IN THE FLOODWAY. UM, BUT THERE'S MUCH OF THAT PROPERTY THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE FLOODWAY. THE RIVER BUFFER DOES EXTEND ACROSS ALMOST THAT ENTIRE PROPERTY. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS IS POLICY LU 5.1, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE TRIED TO CLARIFY, THE INTENT WAS TO [02:50:01] PROVIDE, UH, A PATHWAY FORWARD DEVELOPMENT IF YOU HAD A VACANT PARCEL WITH NO CURRENT USE ON IT, THAT, UH, IS COMPLETELY COVERED BY THE RIVER BUFFER TO PROVIDE OPTIONS, UM, FOR USE OF THAT PROPERTY ALSO WHILE TRYING TO STAY TRUE TO THE INTENT TO, UM, MINIMIZE IMPACT, UM, ALONG THE RIVER, WITHIN THE RIVER BUFFER. SO IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER ON USES AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THE UNDERLYING ZONING AND TRY TO KEEP IT AS FAR AWAY AS POSSIBLE FROM THE RIVER ITSELF IN KEEPING WITH TRYING TO PROTECT AND PRESERVE THAT RIPARIAN CORRIDOR. UM, YEAH. THANK YOU. THAT WAS, UM, I WAS ASKING THESE QUESTIONS 'CAUSE THERE'S OTHER PROPERTIES THAT MAY HAVE SIMILAR TYPE OF SITUATIONS AND, AND THERE'S SOME CONCERNS AS TO WHAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO WITH THEIR PROPERTIES AND, AND WHAT SITUATIONS. AND SO THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY HERE AND WE HAVE TO REALLY WORK WITH INDIVIDUALS IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. OKAY. I WANNA GET CLEAR, UM, THEN THE, UM, UH, THE LAST WHAT AREA HERE THAT I WAS WORRIED ABOUT, UH, LOTS OF FOLKS, AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EIGHT STORIES NEAR THE SMART STATION. A LOT OF COMMENTS COME BACK. I THINK YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT WE'RE GONNA MAYBE REVISIT THAT AND, AND LOOK AT THAT ONE MORE TIME AS A COUNCIL DECISION. UM, UH, BASED ON, UH, THE VOLUME OF COMMENTS THAT CAME OUT ON THAT. AND I THINK ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WAS COMING UP IS, UM, THAT WITH THAT DENSITY IN THAT ENTIRE AREA BEING DEVELOPED LEADS TO CONGESTION, WHICH, WHICH IMPACTS SAFETY AND ENERGY USE, WHICH MAY LEAD TO GRIDLOCK, WHICH MAY LEAD TO EMISSIONS OF, UH, LOTS OF CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS FROM GRIDLOCK IN THAT TYPE OF SITUATION, WHICH IS A ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. AND, UM, SO IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION FOR THE GROUP OF BUILDINGS AND EVERYTHING DOWNTOWN IN THAT AREA FROM THE SMART TRAIN? THE SIX STORIES, THE EIGHT STORIES ALL BEING, IF IT WAS ALL DEVELOPED AND COULD CAUSE, UM, EMISSIONS ISSUES THAT WASN'T REALLY SEEMED TO BE ADDRESSED, CAN, UH, DO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT? AND IS THAT PART OF THE EIR THAT WE NEED TO DO AS PART OF THE E'S AIR QUALITY ANALYSIS MODELING FOR THE ENTIRE CITY'S GROWTH ANTICIPATED, INCLUDING ON THAT PARCEL WAS DEVELOPED. SO THERE WAS, THERE WAS, UH, TRAFFIC MODELING THAT WAS PERFORMED AND THEN, AND THEN FROM THAT TRAFFIC MODELING, THOSE, THE, THE ESTIMATED NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT ARE ASSIGNED THROUGHOUT THE TOWN WERE THEN MODELED TO DEMONSTRATE WHETHER AN INCREASE OF AIR QUALITY EMISSIONS WOULD EXCEED THRESHOLDS THAT ARE DEVELOPED BY THE, BY THE AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT. BASED ON ALL THE ANALYSIS THERE, THERE ARE NO, UM, SIGNIFICANT, UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS RELATED TO, UH, UH, VEHICLE EMISSIONS. THERE ARE MITIGATION MEASURES AND ACTIONS BUILT INTO THE GENERAL PLAN IN ORDER TO REDUCE THOSE. BUT NO, NO SPECIFIC, UH, SIGNIFICANT UNAVOIDABLE IMPACT WAS IDENTIFIED AT THAT SITE OR ANY OF THE OTHER SITES, UH, AMONGST THE, AMONGST THE CITY. WHEN A FUTURE PROJECT WOULD COME ON BOARD, AN ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS MAY NEED TO BE REQUIRED THAT IS MORE SITE SPECIFIC, SIMILAR TO THE BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES CONVERSATION WE HAD BEFORE IN THAT THERE MAY BE SOME FURTHER ACTIONS THAT NEED TO BE DEVELOPED IN THAT, DEPENDING ON HOW THE INGRESS EGRESS OF THE SITE IS, IF THERE ARE LOCALIZED EMISSIONS, CARBON MONOXIDE HOTSPOTS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS, OR GRIDLOCK IN ANY OF THOSE. WHEN THE, WHEN THE PLAN IS BEING, UH, THE APPLICATION IS BEING REVIEWED, THERE WOULD BE AN, AN ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENT AT THAT POINT IN TIME FOR THOSE MORE SITE SPECIFIC, UH, AIR QUALITY ISSUES. SO THERE IS A, A, A REFERENCE SOMEWHERE IN, UH, UH, TO THAT MODELING AND THERE'S SOME, UH, DATA AVAILABLE THAT FOLKS CAN SEE A MAPPING OF THAT FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA. SO WE CAN SEE THAT THERE'S NO MAPPING INDIVIDUALLY FOR EACH, LIKE IN INDIVIDUAL INTERSECTION AS PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN EIR, BUT FOR, BUT THERE IS THE MODELING THAT'S BUILT INTO THE AIR QUALITY SECTION OF THE EIR OF THE OVERALL EMISSIONS CITYWIDE, AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING CITYWIDE EMISSIONS, WE'RE PULLING IT OUT AND, AND LOOKING AT IT THAT WAY AS OPPOSED TO PARCEL BY PARCEL OR INTERSECTION BY INTERSECTION. AND YEAH, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, THAT WHOLE GROUP OF, OF ROADS 'CAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF INTERSECTIONS OF, OF MAJOR TRANSPORT HAPPENING IN THAT AREA. UH, I WAS RUNNING ABOUT THE MOBILITY AND EMISSIONS, UH, FROM THAT, UH, POSSIBLE CONGESTION THAT MIGHT OCCUR. SO THAT PARTICULAR AREA, WAS THAT EVER DRAWN INTO THE MODELING OR WAS IT JUST GENERIC OVER THE WHOLE CITY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? GENERIC INTO THE WHOLE CITY, BUT, BUT INDIVIDUAL, UH, THE INDIVIDUAL DENSITY INCREASES ASSOCIATED WITH THE PARCELS WERE ASSESSED FOR WHAT THE INCREASE OF TRANSPORTATION TRIPS WOULD BE AND THEN LOOKED AT, UH, CUMULATIVELY THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WITH THE CITY. OKAY. SO IT WASN'T, UH, SO IT DIDN'T HAVE A REALLY SPECIFIC FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA. AND THAT WAS THAT WHOLE THING FROM, UH, PEN BOULEVARD TO LAKEVILLE FROM WASHINGTON TO, TO D STREET, THOSE, THAT WAS THAT SECTION. THERE WAS NO INDIVIDUAL ANALYSIS OF THE, UM, TRAFFIC AND EMISSIONS FROM THAT PARTICULAR AREA, NOT, NOT SEPARATED OUT FROM THE REST OF THE ANALYSIS. OKAY. AND THAT WAS NOT REQUIRED FOR, FOR, UH, FOR THE GENERAL PLAN? [02:55:01] CORRECT. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, GOOD. THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO CHECK IN WITH YOU IF THE QUESTIONS IS WHAT I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER Cader Thompson. I JUST HAVE KIND OF A QUICK QUESTION. I WANNA GO BACK TO THE, UM, THE AREA NORTH MC, UM, PEDALO BOULEVARD. SO WE HAVE JAY AND BILLS, WE HAVE BRODY TIRES, AND THEN THERE'S UM, AUTO, UM, AN AUTOBODY STORE AND THERE USED TO BE A MARBLE, UM, UM, FABRICATOR AND I'M SURE THERE'S OTHER BUSINESSES DOWN THERE. SO WITH THIS DESIGNATION, WOULD THOSE BUS THOSE BUSINESSES THE WAY THEY EXIST TODAY WOULD BE ALLOWED? YES. WE BELIEVE THAT THE EXISTING USES THAT ARE THE INDUSTRIAL USES, UH, IN, IN THAT STRETCH, UH, WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE MAKER MICRO ONE OF THE ONES WHEN WE'VE BEEN LOOKING INDIVIDUALLY AS THINGS HAVE COME UP AND QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ASKED. ONE THING I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT IS SHOT WELLS, WHICH IS, UM, AUTO BODY COLLISION. SO THAT'S MORE OF A MAJOR, UM, A MAJOR AUTO, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE, THE EXACT, UM, LAND USE CODE FOR IT, BUT IT'S A, IT'S NOT CONSIDERED MINOR VEHICLE, IT'S MAJOR VEHICLE AND THAT IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF, UM, CENTER BAR, UH, WHICH GOES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE. SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD REASON TO PULL THAT MAKER MICRO TO, UM, THAT PARCEL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF, OF C BAR TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE WITHOUT ANY NON-CONFORMITY, UM, ON THAT PARCEL. OKAY. EXPLAIN WHY THEY WOULDN'T BE IN WITH THE EXISTING WITH. SO, UM, DOES THAT MEAN, SO CAN YOU PULL THAT MAP BACK UP? UH, YEAH. THE, THE THREE OPTIONS. UM, SO CURRENTLY THE WAY IT IS PROPOSED, UM, CINE BAR IS A DIVIDING LINE AND EVERYTHING THAT HOLDS SECTION NORTH IS THE MAKER MICRO BUSINESS AND SOUTH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE. SO A MAJOR VEHICLE, UM, USE MAJOR VEHICLE COLLISION REPAIR. UM, WOULD, WOULD NOT BE A PERMITTED USE IN A MIXED USE DESIGNATION. SO CURRENTLY AS PROPOSED, UM, THAT, THAT IS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD, UM, REASON TO PULL THAT, UM, MAKER MI MICRO, BRING IT INTO THE MICRO, MICRO, BRING IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. WHAT ABOUT BRODY TIRE? 'CAUSE THERE ARE TIRE WOULD BE A MINOR VEHICLE REPAIR AND THAT IS PROPOSED AS A PERMITTED USE IN NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE. OKAY. UNDER THE CURRENT DRAFT. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. SO COUNCIL MEMBER, ONE THING WE DID COMMIT, OR I DID COMMIT THIS AFTERNOON, UM, WOULD BE TO CONFIRM JUST THAT, UH, BY PRODUCING A LETTER, ESSENTIALLY A ZONING CONFORMANCE LETTER TO SAY THIS IS THE EXISTING USE, YOU KNOW, LISTING OUT EVERYTHING THAT BRODY'S, TOM ROSE, ET CETERA, UM, OPERATES. AND THEN JUST CONFIRMING, UH, YOU KNOW, ON A CITY LETTERHEAD ESSENTIALLY THAT IT'S CARRYING OVER, IT'S A PERMITTED USE, THERE'S NO LEGAL NON-CONFORMING ISSUE. AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD BE WORKING ON, UM, IN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS JUST FOR CLARITY. SO YOU WOULD BRING THAT INTO THE MAKER MICRO OR WOULD YOU CHANGE THAT LINE? WE DON'T THINK, WE DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE THOSE. UM, SO WITH WHAT YOU SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT MM-HMM . UH, THE, WHAT'S THAT PERIWINKLE LIGHT PURPLE IN THE MIDDLE, UM, BRODY'S TOM ROSE, UM, ARE PROPOSED TO BE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE ZONING DESIGNATION. HOW THEY OPERATE NOW IS GOING TO BE CONSIDERED A PERMITTED USE OR IS CONSIDERED A PERMITTED USE. SO THERE'S NO NEED TO, UM, RECONSIDER THOSE CHANGES. WHAT HEATHER'S RAISING IS, UH, SHOT WELLS, WHICH IS JUST, UM, EAST OF BRODY'S, THAT'S A DIFFERENT BUSINESS, UM, OPERATION. UNFORTUNATELY I WASN'T ABLE TO MEET WITH THEM THIS AFTERNOON. I KNOW THEY'RE HERE. MM-HMM . UM, I'M HOPEFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY PROVIDE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS SO WE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND. UM, BUT ON THE SURFACE WHAT WE DID LOOK AND EXPLORE AT IS THEY DO HAVE A DIFFERENT USE THAT'S NOT, UM, UH, BEING PROPOSED AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE. SO ONE IDEA THAT STAFF HAS, UM, WOULD BE TO ESSENTIALLY, UM, KIND OF GO BACK TO CURRENT, UH, WHAT IS IT SO EXISTING, IRONICALLY, SO EXISTING USES, UM, SHOT WELLS, [03:00:01] IS THAT THAT LITTLE GRAY ONE THAT'S JUST MM-HMM . ON AN ISLAND. UM, AND SO THERE'S A COUPLE OPTIONS THERE TO, UM, ENSURE THAT THE BUSINESS CONTINUES AS IT CURRENTLY IS. CAN WE BRING THAT INTO THE MAKER MICROS? SO THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO. AND THEN OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S A, THAT, THAT'S FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION, BUT THAT WOULD BE ONE THING IS TO MODIFY THAT BOUNDARY OF THE MAKER MICRO TO COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT SOUTH AND PICK UP THE SHOTWELL PROPERTY AND THEN, UM, WE THINK THAT WOULD ADDRESS THAT. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. NO OTHER COUNCIL QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN VICE? MAYOR DI CARLY, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION AND, AND FOR YOU GUYS COMING BACK HERE. SO I'M WONDERING WHY WAS THERE NOT A PROPOSED ALTERNATIVE TO PASS THE GENERAL PLAN WITHOUT CHANGING HEIGHT AND DENSITY IN THE EIR? UM, I CAN TAKE A PASS AT THAT. UH, SO THE, UH, ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS IS DRIVEN BY, UH, SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS AND ALSO BY THE PROJECT OBJECTIVES. UH, AND SO WHEN LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE ON BALANCE, UM, THAT WAS NOT THE, THOSE WERE NOT THE THINGS THAT WERE DRIVING THE ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS. UM, SO WE TRIED TO FOCUS THE ALTERNATIVES ON THOSE THINGS THAT WOULD, UM, STICK WITH THE OBJECTIVES AND WOULD AVOID SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS, BUT THAT WOULD'VE GIVEN US A BASELINE FOR EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, TO, TO GO AHEAD AND PASS THE GENERAL PLAN TO KEEP EVERYTHING ELSE LAND USE WISE, ET CETERA AS IT IS. UM, SO, UH, THE CURRENT GENERAL PLANNING IR UH, PROVIDES THAT FOR US BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT, UH, CURRENT, UM, HEIGHT AND ZONING AS IT IS. AND SO WE HAVE AN EIR THAT ALREADY HAS THAT. IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE OF THE THINGS, AND I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STATION MIXED USE PROPERTY IN PARTICULAR ABOUT HEIGHTS, UM, KIND OF ACROSS THE BOARD. I MEAN, THERE'S SEVERAL PARCELS THAT GOT REZONED. SURE. WHEN IT COMES TO HEIGHTS, WHAT WE'RE GENERALLY LOOKING AT IS WHAT DRIVES AN IMPACT. AN AESTHETIC IMPACT IS GENERALLY WHAT RECEIVED FROM, FROM HEIGHTS. UH, SO WE DID LOOK AT A REDUCED ALTERNATIVE WITH REDUCED DENSITY ACROSS THE BOARD, ACROSS THE CITY SHOWING LOWER GROWTH OVERALL, THEORETICALLY THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE LOWER HEIGHT. GENERALLY, WHEN YOU'RE LOWER HEIGHT LOWERING HEIGHTS, YOU'RE ACTUALLY REDUCING IMPACTS OR LOWERING IMPACTS. SO WHEN YOU ARE CONSIDERING, IF THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR LOWERING THE HEIGHTS AT THIS STAGE OF THE PROCESS, THERE'S NO NEED TO ACTUALLY ANALYZE A, A LOWER HEIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY A LOWER IMPACT THAN WHAT WOULD BE ANALYZED WITH A HIGHER HEIGHT. SO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IF, IF THE, IF THERE WAS A CONSIDERATION TO LOWER HEIGHTS ACROSS THE BOARD, THERE WOULD NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO BE ADDITIONAL EIR ANALYSIS DONE BECAUSE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE AT THE HIGHER HEIGHTS. OFTENTIMES IN ALTERNATIVES, WHAT WE OFTEN WILL SEE IF THERE'S A COMPARISON BETWEEN TWO HEIGHTS IS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT A HIGHER HEIGHT TO COMPARE WHAT THAT IMPACT WOULD BE COMPARED TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT. AND THEN YOU HAVE THAT COMPARISON. BUT WHEN YOU'RE GENERALLY GOING TO A LOWER HEIGHT, IN ESSENCE LOWER DENSITY, LOWER NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS, YOU'RE ACTUALLY REDUCING THOSE IMPACTS. AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE PAST IT, IT HAD BEEN SAID KIND OF UP HERE AND BY STAFF THAT EIGHT STORIES, UM, ANYTHING ABOVE EIGHT STORIES WAS KIND OF UNLIKELY OR IMPOSSIBLE AROUND THE TRAIN STATION. SO CAN ANYBODY ELABORATE ON WHY, YOU KNOW, DENSITY, BONUSES, ET CETERA WOULDN'T APPLY TO THIS DENSITY BONUS SUPPLIES BASED ON STATE LAW? SO WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT DENSITY BONUS WOULDN'T APPLY. DENSITY BONUS CAN BE USED ON ALL SORTS OF PROPERTIES BASED ON STATE LAW, WHICH HAS BEEN IN PLACE I THINK SINCE THE EIGHTIES NINETIES. UM, SO WE, WE AT A LOCAL LEVEL DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL OVER WHAT THE STATE ADOPTS AS DENSITY BONUS LAW. SO, UM, A A COMPLIANT PROJECT HAS OPPORTUNITIES, UM, FOR DENSITY BONUS AND THE ASSOCIATED CONCESSIONS THAT WOULD COME ALONG WITH THAT. WHAT WE CAN SAY IS THAT DENSITY BONUS HAS BEEN USED VERY SPARINGLY IN PETALUMA. UM, OVER, OVER TIME WE HAVE HAD PROJECTS THAT HAVE REQUESTED A DENSITY BONUS, UM, EXAMPLES [03:05:01] OF THAT, UM, UH, THE MID PEN PROJECT ON THE BOULEVARD, THE BURBANK PROJECT ON PELOMA BOULEVARD SOUTH, UM, WHERE THEY MAY BE REQUESTED A SLIGHT INCREASE IN DENSITY, OR THEY MAY BE REQUESTED A SLIGHT, UM, CONCESSION FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDARD THAT, UM, WAS CHALLENGING THEIR ABILITY TO REACH THE DENSITIES, UM, THAT THEY NEEDED. UM, AND INCLUDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO WE HAVEN'T, THE HISTORY IN PETALUMA HAS BEEN, WE HAVEN'T SEEN DENSITY BONUS APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE SHIFTED EITHER THE DENSITY OR THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS A LOT. ONE OF THE THINGS I CAN SAY ALSO ABOUT THIS GENERAL PLAN IS THE CENTRAL PETALUMA SPECIFIC PLAN, THE BOUNDARY, WHICH IS A LARGE PORTION OF OUR DOWNTOWN, UM, IS, DOES NOT HAVE A DENSITY MAXIMUM. THERE IS NO DENSITY MAXIMUM IN THAT AREA. IT IS GOVERNED BY A FORM-BASED CODE. AND REALLY WHAT THAT SAYS IS, IF YOU CAN FIT IT IN THIS FORM, YOU CAN DO AS MANY UNITS AS YOU WANT. THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, UM, THE CITY DOES HAVE THE DISCRETION TO DEFINE DENSITY, AND THAT IN TURN HELPS AN APPLICATION FOR A DENSITY BONUS. THERE'S A VERY CLEAR, YOU'RE ALLOWED THIS MUCH DENSITY, UM, WHEREAS IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE DENSITY MAXIMUMS, THE APPLICANT CAN PROVE HOW MANY UNITS THEY THINK THEY CAN FIT WITHIN THAT FORM, AND THE DENSITY GETS ADDED ONTO THAT. UM, SO BY ESTABLISHING DENSITY MINIMUMS AND DENSITY MAXIMUMS IN ALL OF THE DESIGNATIONS IN THE CITY THROUGH THIS GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, IT IS TRYING TO, UM, ENSURE THAT WHERE THE CITY HAS LOCAL CONTROL, WE HAVE THAT IN PLACE, UM, TO, TO, UM, BETTER, UM, HAVE A, A MORE, UM, CLEAR PATH WITH A DENSITY BONUS PROJECT. OKAY. NO, THANK YOU FOR THAT. BUT I, BUT LIKE, GOING BACK TO MY QUESTION, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THAT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT EIGHT STORIES, GOING ABOVE EIGHT STORIES, YOU KNOW, THE, THEY WERE MET WITH, THAT COULD NEVER HAPPEN AND THAT WON'T HAPPEN, AND HOW UNLIKELY THAT IS AND TRYING TO MAKE THEIR ARGUMENT SEEM, UM, YOU KNOW, ALMOST LAUGHABLE. AND SO, I MEAN, CAN YOU, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT AT ALL BECAUSE THAT WAS, THAT WAS KIND OF THE CONSENSUS PEOPLE WERE SAYING WAS THAT IT, IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN HERE IN PETALUMA. IT WOULD NOT GO ABOVE EIGHT STORIES. UM, SO I, I THINK THERE'S, WHAT HEATHER'S POINTING TO IS JUST THE REALITY. UM, THIS DOCUMENT, THIS VISION IS FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS. UM, PART OF WHAT WE DID EARLY ON IN THIS PROCESS WAS REALLY TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THE ECONOMICS FOR RESIDENTIAL. UM, AND SO THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK, UH, WE, I MEAN I THINK WE SHOULD BE HONEST WITH THE CURRENT ECONOMICS ARE. UM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE, I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY THE RATIONALE BEHIND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD OF SEEING SOMETHING TO COME TO PETALUMA OR REALLY TO THIS REGION THAT WOULD EXCEED THE EIGHT STORIES. UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE EXISTING NOW IT'S SIX STORIES. UM, AND, AND I THINK THAT GETS MISSED A LOT BECAUSE IT IS A VACANT PARCEL. IT'S ONE PARCEL, IT CAN ACCOMMODATE SIX STATE DENSITY BONUS LAW SINCE THE SEVENTIES, EIGHTIES, NINETIES HAS BEEN IN PLACE. AND IT'S NEVER COME TO BEAR IN THE WAY THAT, UM, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN. UM, AND SO I, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S LAUGHABLE, BUT I, I THINK IT'S, I MEAN, IT'S THE REALITY, RIGHT? WE ARE SEEING INCREMENTAL, MAYBE A UNIT OR TWO, MAYBE A FOOT OR TWO, UM, TO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDERS TONIGHT IS GONNA, UM, INTRODUCE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT EXCEEDS EIGHT STORIES IS JUST, UM, NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE. UM, AND I WOULD SAY IN THE NEAR AND MIDTERM FUTURE, I MEAN, DO WE HAVE ANY DATA TO ACTUALLY SUPPORT THAT? 'CAUSE OTHER THAN IT BEING SAID, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING TO SUGGEST THAT IT'S NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE TO GO ABOVE EIGHT. IS THERE? SO YEAH, SO I WOULD POINT TO THE FEASIBILITY. SO WE DID A RESIDENTIAL FEASIBILITY, UM, [03:10:02] AS PART OF OUR EARLY EXISTING CONDITIONS, AND THAT'S WHAT REALLY DROVE US TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT, OKAY, IT'S CURRENTLY SIX. WE KNOW THAT THE HIGH RESOURCE AREAS ARE IN AND AROUND OUR SMART STATIONS, OUR HIGH QUALITY REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION. IF THERE'S A PLACE THAT THIS COULD WORK, IT'S AROUND OUR, OUR SMART STATIONS WHERE OUR, UM, TRANSPORTATION IS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAD AN INDUSTRY EXPERT, GREENS GREENSFELDER, STRATEGIC STRATEGIC ECONOMICS, AND THEN GREENSFELDER ON THE, I THINK NON-RESIDENTIAL SIDE, UM, TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT IT. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY COMMON FOR CITIES TO RELY ON THIRD PARTY, UM, ECONOMIC FIRMS. UM, WE GROUND TRUTH THAT DATA, UM, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S, UM, BROUGHT US FORWARD, UM, AT THIS POINT TODAY. MM-HMM . WELL, I WAS GONNA DISCUSS IT LATER ON, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT CERTAINLY SEEMS FEASIBLE BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT SAN RAFAEL, THEY'RE LOOKING AT 17 AND 24 STORY PROPOSALS. SO IT'S, IT'S VERY MUCH A POSSIBILITY THAT SOMEBODY COULD COME IN, PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY AND BUILD SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST AROUND 11 STORIES, MAYBE 12. I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS TO, UH, THE HANDFUL OF PROJECTS WE HAVE MET WITH SAN RAFAEL. UM, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT, UH, DISTINGUISH US. UM, WE DON'T ATTRACT THE RENTAL RATES THAT SAN RAFAEL DOES. UH, MOST IMPORTANTLY, UM, THEY DON'T HAVE A DENSITY ESTABLISHED AS PART OF, UM, THOSE AREAS IN SAN RAFAEL. AND SO WHAT HEATHER WAS EXPLAINING EARLIER WAS THAT THERE'S A VULNERABILITY THERE. UM, UH, AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN SAN RAFAEL. WILL THOSE PROJECTS EVER ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD? I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S HARD TO SAY. UM, WITH THE ECONOMICS WHERE THEY'RE AT RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, UM, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. UH, BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS. SO THIS IS WHY IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO ESTABLISH SOME, UM, RANGES AND REALLY HAVE CONTROL, LOCAL CONTROL, TRUE LOCAL CONTROL AS MUCH AS WE CAN, UM, WITHIN OUR REGULATIONS. SO THAT NOT ONLY INCLUDES HEIGHT, WHICH IS IMPORTANT, BUT FAR. SO FLOOR AREA RATIO 5.0 ON THE FOUR AND A HALF ACRE SITE. UM, IT IS GOING, IT'S, IT'S ESSENTIALLY TWO. IT'S GOING TO BE TWO, IT'S GONNA BE SPLIT UP DOWN THE MIDDLE, UM, WITH A PEDESTRIAN SORT OF PROMENADE, UH, FROM THE STATION TO THE RIVER. UM, AND SO THERE'S MORE DEVELOPMENT CONSTRAINTS, UM, THAT GO BEYOND JUST THE EIGHT STORIES. UM, AND THEN WHAT ALSO DISTINGUISHES US FROM SAN RAFAEL FOR THAT SPECIFIC PARCEL, THE ONLY PARCEL THAT IS, UH, BEING PROPOSED AS EIGHT STORY, UH, IT'S OWNED BY A PUBLIC ENTITY. SO SMART OWNS IT. THERE'S A WHOLE SURPLUS LANDS PROCESS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH, UM, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE STEPS, MULTIPLE PUBLIC PROCESS, UH, BEFORE, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING COULD GET APPROVED THERE. UM, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STEP, BUT THERE'S MULTIPLE STEPS THAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN TO ACTUALLY FULLY REALIZE THAT SITE. BUT WITH DENSITY BONUS, IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THOSE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, RAFAEL NOT HAVING DENSITY DEFINED, I MEAN, THAT, THAT DOESN'T MATTER IN PETALUMA'S CASE, IF DENSITY BONUS LAWS ARE APPLIED TO GO ABOVE EIGHT STORIES HERE, I MEAN, THAT'S STILL VERY MUCH A REALISTIC THING, BUT DENSITY. SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO UNIT COUNT ESTABLISHED FOR ANY PARCEL WITHIN THE SMART CODE. SO ESSENTIALLY EVERYTHING IN AND AROUND THE DOWNTOWN, WHAT WE'RE DOING PROACTIVELY AS PART OF THIS UPDATE IS TO ESTABLISH THAT, I THINK IT'S 1 25 ON THE TOP END, MAYBE 90 TO 1 25 FOR THE, UH, SMART PARCEL, UM, THAT PROVIDES THE CONTROL, THAT PROVIDES THE CERTAINTY STATE DENSITY BONUS. WE'RE NOT INTRODUCING STATE DENSITY BONUS AS PART OF THIS PROCESS. STATE DENSITY BONUS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE. IF THERE WAS A PROJECT THAT WANTED TO UTILIZE STATE DENSITY BONUS TODAY BEFORE THIS ACTION IS MADE, UM, THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED. IT, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. IT'S IN THE CONTROL OF A, A PUBLIC ENTITY. UM, NOTHING IS CHANGING FROM TODAY TO THE END OF THIS HEARING. UM, WITH RESPECT TO STATE DENSITY BONUS LAW, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR BEFORE I WAS BORN, I THINK AT THIS POINT, I THINK 1979, YES. BEFORE I WAS BORN. RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE. THAT, THAT WASN'T REALLY THE QUESTION, BUT WHY WOULD WE, UM, NOT CONSIDER HAVING DONE A TRAFFIC STUDY SPECIFICALLY IN [03:15:01] THE AREA BETWEEN WASHINGTON D STREET, UH, LAKEVILLE WITH THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THIS BUILDING AROUND THE TRAIN STATION? I REALIZED THAT WE KIND OF DID WHAT IS THE STATE BARE MINIMUM, BUT WHY DIDN'T WE ANALYZE IT CLOSER IN THIS AREA BECAUSE THAT AREA'S ALREADY SO IMPACTED ALREADY. WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, AN EIGHT PLUS STORY BUILDING WITH NO PARKING REQUIREMENTS GOING TO DO TO THAT AREA? UH, SO TYPICALLY WHEN WE DO A ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS, UH, WE DO THAT, UH, BASED ON A SPECIFIC PROJECT, UH, GIVEN THE CERTAINTY OF THAT APPLICATION SO THAT THAT ANALYSIS CAN, UH, PROVIDE FOR MEANINGFUL CONVERSATION INFORMED DECISION MAKING. UM, HERE WE DON'T HAVE THAT, WE DON'T HAVE AN APPLICATION. WHAT WE HAVE IS A, A REGULATORY CHANGE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR SOMEONE TO SUBMIT THAT SUCH AN APPLICATION. THEY MAY COME IN AND SUBMIT FOUR STORIES. THEY MAY SUBMIT FOR SIX, THEY MAY SUBMIT FOR EIGHT, UM, IF THAT GOES THROUGH TONIGHT. SO, UM, AT THE TIME THAT THAT APPLICATION COMES IN, THAT IS WHEN WE WOULD DO THAT DETAILED LEVEL OF ANALYSIS, UM, BOTH FOR VMT, FOR TRAFFIC, FOR, UM, AIR QUALITY, SHOULD THERE BE QUEUING. SO, UM, THE ANALYSIS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL HAS TO BE, UM, SCALED APPROPRIATELY TO THE PROJECT AT HAND. AND SO HERE WE HAVE A PROGRAMMATIC LEVEL, EIR AND SO THAT IS WHAT IT IS SCALED FOR. YEAH. BUT NOBODY'S GONNA COME IN AND, AND PURCHASE, UH, YOU KNOW, A PROPERTY WITH, FOR THE VALUE OF AN EIGHT STORY PROPERTY AND THEN BUILD FOUR ON IT, YOU KNOW? AND, AND I MEAN IT, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'D WAIT, WOULD WAIT TO CONSIDER UNTIL THERE'S AN APPLICATION. WELL, WHAT'S THIS GONNA ACTUALLY DO TO TRAFFIC IN TOWN? I MEAN RIGHT. I THINK YOU'RE DRIFTING INTO THE COMMENTARY PART AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO STAY FOCUSED ON QUESTION PART. YEAH. BUT ANYWAY. SO, UM, SO FROM, FROM YOUR CQA ANALYSIS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON WHICH HISTORICAL RESOURCES OR STRUCTURES COULD POTENTIALLY BE AFFECTED BY THE NEW GENERAL PLAN? WE HAVE A LIST IN, IN THE SECTION, IF YOU GIMME A MOMENT, I COULD FIND THE TABLE OF LISTING OF HISTORIC RESOURCES. THE OTHER PIECE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT HISTORIC RESOURCES IN CALIFORNIA ARE POTENTIALLY ANYTHING OVER 50 YEARS OR OLDER. SO FOR THIS ANALYSIS, ONE OF THE IMPACTS AND THE, THE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED IS THAT THERE COULD BECOME, THERE ARE EXISTING STRUCTURES THAT MAY NOT BE 50 YEARS OR OLDER, OR MAY NOT BE CURRENTLY IDENTIFIED AS A HISTORIC RESOURCE, EITHER LOCALLY AT THE CITY LEVEL OR AT THE STATE LEVEL OR THE NATIONAL LEVEL. BUT IN THE NEXT 10, 15, 20, 25 YEARS, THE LIFE OF THE GENERAL PLAN THEY BE, COULD BECOME HISTORIC. SO I, I CANNOT SAY FOR CERTAIN WHICH OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED OUTSIDE OF THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY IDENTIFIED. AND I'LL PULL OPEN THE TABLE THAT'S LISTED THAT, THAT DEMONSTRATES THAT LIST. AND WHAT THAT LIST IS SAYING IS THESE STRUCTURES WITHIN THE CITY AND WITHIN THE GENERAL PLAN AREA ARE ALREADY IDENTIFIED AS HISTORIC STRUCTURES OR HISTORIC RESOURCES, OR POTENTIALLY HISTORIC RESOURCES. UM, BUT THERE ARE, THERE MAY BECOME OTHERS THAT MAY BE IMPACTED DUE TO CONSTRUCTION. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF A NEW SITE IN DOWNTOWN PETALUMA WERE TO GO UP AND CONSTRUCTION, UM, UH, INCLUDED BULLDOZING OR PILE DRIVING OR SOMETHING THAT COULD ACTUALLY DAMAGE THE NEIGHBORING STRUCTURE OF, WHICH MAY BE A HISTORIC STRUCTURE, BUT WE DON'T, HASN'T YET BEEN CERTIFIED AS ONE, THAT'S A POTENTIAL IMPACT. AND THAT'S WHAT'S IDENTIFIED IN THE EIR. AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON WHAT, WHERE THE TABLE IS OF EXISTING SOURCES. OKAY. UM, LET'S MOVE THAT OVER TO, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT AND OPEN THAT ON UP FOR US, PLEASE. YES, AT THIS MOMENT I WILL START A 32ND CLOCK. DURING THESE 30 SECONDS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK. UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING ONLINE SHOULD RAISE THEIR VIRTUAL HAND. THOSE ATTENDING VIA PHONE SHOULD PRESS STAR NINE TO RAISE THEIR HAND. SPEAKER REQUESTS RECEIVED AFTER THIS TIME MAY NOT BE ACCOMMODATED. ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE HOW MANY FOLKS JOINING US ONLINE. WE HAVE 10 ATTENDEES ONLINE. THANK YOU. AND WE DID RECEIVE 31 COMMENTS AHEAD OF THE MEETING, WHICH ARE POSTED ONLINE. [03:20:06] OKAY. UH, WE HAVE 13 CARDS SUBMITTED, AND I'M TOLD FOUR HANDS RAISED ONLINE. AND, UM, AS IS THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA, IT'S A THREE MINUTE CLOCK SET. AND SO WE WILL START WITH THAT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS, UH, BETSY ELLI TO BE FOLLOWED BY, UH, TED CABAL. I'M GONNA GIVE MY MINUTES TO MARK KIMBERLY. UM, ARE YOU, UM, BETSY CATEL? YES. AND THIS IS ON THE GENERAL PLAN. AND, AND SO, UM, THIS IS ON THE GENERAL PLAN, NOT ON NORTH BANK. THAT'S RIGHT. LET ME ROLL THIS ONE DOWN UNDER WHERE, WHERE, UM, WHEN YOU COME UP. I'LL CUT THAT IN AT THAT POINT. DO YOU WANT ME TO SIT DOWN PLEASE? YES. TED CABAL TO BE FOLLOWED BY DARREN RACK IN GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF. MY NAME IS TED CABRAL. UH, MY FAMILY OWNS THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AT 1365 AND 1375 INDUSTRIAL AVENUE. UH, FOR MORE THAN 60 YEARS, THESE PROPERTIES HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO PETALUMA'S ECONOMY. THE PROPOSED GENERAL PLAN ESTABLISHES A 330 FOOT BUFFER FROM THE RIVER THAT COULD SEVERELY LIMIT THEIR, UH, FUTURE USE. ALTHOUGH, I HAVE TO SAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE WIGGLE ROOM PUT INTO THE LANGUAGE AS FAR AS WHAT, UH, I'VE HEARD TONIGHT. BUT I'M GONNA CUT. I AM GONNA MOVE FORWARD AND QUESTION THE ACTUAL BUFFER ZONE ITSELF. I APPRECIATE THE CITY'S CONCERN ABOUT FLOODING. UH, I'VE SERVED MANY FOR MANY YEARS AS A CHAIR OF SONOMA COUNTY ZONE TWO, A FLOOD ADVISORY COMMITTEE WHERE I HELPED IMPLEMENT MULTIPLE FLOOD CONTROL PROJECTS IN PETALUMA. THAT EXPERIENCE IS WHY I HAVE SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DIRECTION OF THIS POLICY. BEFORE MAKING A DECISION THAT COULD HAVE LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES, I BELIEVE WE NEED TO BE SURE WE HAVE THE ANSWERS TO SOME IMPORTANT QUESTIONS. WHAT ACTUAL FLOOD RISK OR ENGINEERING SUPPORTS THIS BUFFER? THE CITY'S MODELING SHOWS LITTLE TO NO FLOODING ON OUR PROPERTY WITH LESS THAN SIX INCHES SHOWN ON ONLY A SMALL PORTION. AND WHERE EXACTLY IS THE TOP BANK, UH, FROM WHICH THE BUFFER WILL BE MEASURED? IN 1993, THE MOORHEAD INDUSTRIAL AVENUE FLOODWAY PROJECT IMPROVED AND TERRA OUR PROPERTY EFFECTIVELY WIDENING THE WATERWAY TO INCREASE FLOOD CAPACITY. ALSO, WERE THE MORE RECENT FLOOD CONTROL PROJECTS ALONG THE INDUSTRIAL AVENUE. THE DUN REACH ONES CONSIDERED WHEN ESTABLISHING THIS BUFFER. AND WAS THE ACTUAL FLOOD HISTORY OF THE AREA CONSIDERED? TO MY KNOWLEDGE, OUR PROPERTIES HAVE NOT FLOODED SINCE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WERE COMPLETED. EVEN THE 2017 EVENT FROM THOSE MULTIPLE ATMOSPHERIC RIVERS THAT WENT UP INTO THE SNOW MOUNTAINS, THOSE, THAT EVENT, THE REASON THAT'S PART OF THE TOWN FLOODED WAS BECAUSE A RANCHER DROVE HIS BULLDOZER DOWN COPELAND CREEK AND ALTERED THE STREAMBED. IT BLOCKED PART OF IT, IT CROSSED RUSSIAN RIVER WATERSHED WATER INTO THE PETALUMA RIVER WATERSHED INTO LE HOW CREEK FLOODED PEN GROVE FLOODED THE NORTHERN PORTION OF TOWN. SO, UM, WITH THOSE CHANGES, UH, ALSO WHERE THE, THE MORE RECENT FLOOD CONTROL PROJECTS LONG, OH, I ALREADY SAID THAT. WHY AREN'T FEMA REGULATIONS ZERO NET FILL REQUIREMENTS AND SITE SPECIFIC ENGINEERING ENOUGH TO DETERMINE WHAT CAN SAFELY BE DEVELOPED? THAT'S A LOT OF GOVERNMENT WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, PERMITS AND PROCESSES TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. WE HAVE BEEN PRESENTED THIS DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY, ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS. OKAY. SO THIS WOULD MAKE ONE OF THE BIG TENANTS OF THIS IS IT ALSO PROVIDES ACCESS FOR THE RIVER WALK TRAIL. SO THEY WANT TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO THE PROJECT. SO I'LL SKIP DOWN HERE 'CAUSE I'M RUNNING CLOSE ON TIME. SO BASICALLY, IF A PROJECT CAN MEET FEMA REQUIREMENTS, MAINTAIN ZERO NET FILL, ADDRESS THE ACTUAL FLOOD RISK, PROVIDE EGV EV CHARGING AND IMPROVE TRAIL ACCESS, WHAT PUBLIC PER PURPOSE IS SERVED BY PROHIBITING IT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT FALLS WITHIN THIS BUFFER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, DARREN RAKU IN, AND I HAVE, UM, ALSO WITH, UH, CHANTEL ROGERS, AND I'LL HAVE ALSO WITH WAYNE STROM. THERE WE GO. SO WE SETTING FOR THREE MAXIMUM. HERE WE GO. WE'LL TRY TO, WE'LL TRY TO RACE THROUGH IT AND NOT USE IT ALL. GREAT. UH, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. DARREN RASON, PETALUMA RESIDENT BUSINESS OWNER, FORMER PLANNING COMMISSIONER. SUBMITTED A LETTER ON WHAT I'M GONNA DISCUSS TONIGHT THAT GOES INTO MUCH MORE DETAIL, BUT REALLY I WANTED TO GO OVER SOME OF THE UNDERLYING KIND OF URBANIST POLICY THAT'S UNDERLYING A LOT OF THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN AND [03:25:01] THEN MOVE THAT INTO SOME ASKS OR CHANGES THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE PLAN. BUT REALLY THE BIGGEST CHANGE I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT IS THE SHIFT FROM WHEN WE EXAMINE THIS GENERAL PLAN OR LAND USE MORE BROADLY, HOW ARE WE CHANGING THE LIVES OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE AS THE GOAL SETTING, NOT JUST DENSITY OR PROPERTY TAX PER ACRE OR ANY METRIC LIKE THAT, BUT HOW DO WE REALLY FOCUS THINGS ON HOW WE CHANGE THE LIVES OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE? SO FOR YEARS, THE FIVE YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN INVOLVED, SINCE I MOVED TO PETALUMA, I'VE HEARD SOME MANTRAS AROUND LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT THAT REALLY CENTER AROUND LIKE DENSITY ALWAYS MAKES THINGS MORE AFFORDABLE. UH, DENSITY ADDS TO BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE. CHASING PROPERTY TAX PER ACRE IN A GOOD URBAN THREE MAP IS THE KEY TO A GOOD CITY. AND I WANTED TO TEST THAT. UH, SO I SPENT A PAST COUPLE MONTHS ASSEMBLING FINANCIAL REPORTS FROM 70 BAY AREA AND NORTHERN CALIFORNIA CITIES TO MATCH THEM WITH QUALITATIVE METRICS I COULD FIND ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE. SO THAT'S PULLING CENSUS DATA, CRIME RATES, HOME OWNERSHIP BURDEN THAT'S PULLING, UH, ATLAS UPWARD MOBILITY INDEX DATA, THE PROGRESSION OF LOW INCOME FAMILIES AND WHERE THEIR CHILDREN ARE LIKELY TO END UP. UH, CALIFORNIA HEALTHY PLACES INDEX THESE QUALITATIVE METRICS OF QUALITY OF LIFE, OF LIVING IN A PLACE TO COMPARE IT WITH THE VERY REAL FINANCIAL METRICS, INCLUDING THINGS LIKE YOU CAN BACK INTO DENSITY, YOU CAN BACK INTO PROPERTY TAX PER ACRE. PAIRED THAT WITH THE CITY'S OWN FISCAL ANALYSIS FOR THE GENERAL PLAN TO START TO GROUND TRUTH. SOME OF THE THEORIES THAT HAVE BEEN DRIVING A LOT OF OUR POLICY MAKING. SO TO OVERVIEW, FIRST, THE METRICS WE CHASE TEND TO BE POOR MEASURES OF A GOOD CITY, JUST DENSITY AND PROPERTY TAX PER ACRE. UH, HOW MUCH PROPERTY TAX THE CITY COLLECTS PER ACRE IS ONLY WEEKLY RELATED TO HEALTH OUTCOMES OR UPWARD MOBILITY. DENSITY ITSELF SHOWS ALMOST NO RELATIONSHIP WITH LIVABILITY SCORES OR ATLAS UPWARD MOBILITY. PETALUMA IS A GREAT EXAMPLE. WE RANK NEAR THE BOTTOM OF THE CITY'S EYE EXAM IN PROPERTY TAX PER ACRE. WE SIT RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE IN DENSITY, BUT WE RANK NEAR THE TOP IN LIVABILITY. ACTUALLY FIRST IN SONOMA COUNTY. MOST OF THE CITIES THAT RANK HIGHLY IN THIRD PARTY LIVABILITY STANDARDS FALL IN THIS SAME MODERATE DENSITY RANGE FROM THE DATA SET I LOOKED AT, IT'S ALWAYS THE CAVEAT. UH, SECONDLY, DENSITY DOES NOT SOLVE AFFORDABILITY IN WHAT IS A COMPETITIVE REGIONAL HOUSING MARKET WITH HIGH CONSTRUCTION COSTS BY ITSELF, RIGHT? SO PETALUMA IS A PLACE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE A CHARACTER FULL, MODERATELY DENSE RIVER TOWN NEAR THE COAST WITHIN REACH OF WINE COUNTRY, MARIN AND SAN FRANCISCO. SO THAT MEANS DEMAND COMES FROM ACROSS THE BAY AREA AND EVEN BEYOND, AND SETS US AT HIGH PRICES. CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE THE OTHER HALF OF OUR HIGH HOUSING COST EQUATION. IN 2023, UC, BERKELEY'S TURNER CENTER MODELED A 120 UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING AND FOUND IT COST ROUGHLY $637,000 PER UNIT TO DEVELOP THAT KIND OF STRUCTURE IN THE EAST BAY. AND THAT WAS ASSUMING NO ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENT. SO OBVIOUSLY LENDERS ONLY FINANCE IF RENT COVERS THOSE COSTS. SO NEW UNITS BUILT IN THAT KIND OF STRUCTURE AT THAT PRICE ARE COMING IN AT THE VERY TOP OF MARKET. IT MAKES ME THINK OF THE EIGHT STORY BUILDING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, IN THE SITES TONIGHT. NOT TO MAKE EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT, I THINK THIS IS A MUCH BROADER CRITIQUE, BUT AT ITS MAXIMUM, THE STATION SITE WOULD ADD ABOUT 560 HOMES, WHICH IS ROUGHLY THREE TENTHS OF 1% OF SONOMA COUNTY'S NEW HOUSEHOLDS PRICED AT THE TOP OF THIS REGIONAL MARKET. SO EIGHT STORY BUILDINGS IN THIS, THESE COUPLE THAT WE'RE ADDING AREN'T GONNA CHANGE THE MATH FOR AFFORDABILITY. THEY'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE PRICES IN PETALUMA. UH, AND IF THEY AFFECT AFFORDABILITY AT ALL, IT WILL BE AT THESE TOP OF MARKET PRICES. WHAT DOES PUT HOMES IN REACH OF WORKING FAMILIES, TEACHERS SERVICE WORKERS IS GENERALLY THE INCLUSIONARY REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE. 15% OF NEW UNITS NEED TO BE PRICED BELOW MARKET OR A FEE COLLECTED THAT FUNDS THEM. IN OUR GENERAL PLAN, WE HAVE 970 INCOME RESTRICTED HOMES ESTIMATED, UH, BY APPLYING THAT REQUIREMENT TO OUR FULL BUILD OUT. BUT I'VE HEARD ON COUNCIL NOW THAT THERE'S SOME TALK ABOUT GETTING RID OF THE INCLUSIONARY REQUIREMENT. UH, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT HOW THIS CONVERSATION HAS EVOLVED. ORIGINALLY COUCHED IN AFFORDABILITY TO PROMOTE DENSITY, BUT WE'VE KIND OF MOVED AWAY FROM THAT. UH, BUT IF AFFORDABILITY IS THE GOAL, WE'D BE MUCH BETTER SERVED BY PROTECTING INCLUSIONARY HOUSING THAN JUST BY ADDING A COUPLE EIGHT STORY BUILDINGS. THIRD GROWTH, UH, HAS REAL COSTS, AND THE BIGGEST ARE POLICE AND FIRE. SO THIS CORRELATES IN THE DATA SET. I LOOKED AT THAT. YOU SEE INCREASES IN POLICE AND FIRE COSTS POSITIVELY WITH DENSITY OF COURSE. BUT IN THE FISCAL STUDY ASSOCIATED WITH OUR CITY'S GENERAL PLAN, WE SEE THAT WE WOULD ADD ABOUT $12 MILLION A YEAR IN POLICE AND FIRE COSTS AT FULL BUILD OUT OF WHAT IS PROPOSED. ROUGHLY TWO THIRDS OF ALL NEW GENERAL PLAN FUND SPENDING. AND IT'S THE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH PORTION OF THIS PLAN THAT PUSHES THE WHOLE PLAN INTO THE RED. FROM WHAT I WAS READING, ABOUT $270,000 A YEAR, WE WOULD BE SHORT AT FULL BUILD OUT. SO WE WOULD SEE A NEGATIVE TO OUR GENERAL FUND OF ABOUT $270,000 A YEAR. AND THAT'S EVEN COUNTING 280 NEW HOTEL ROOMS. UM, SO POLICE AND FIRE ALREADY ACCOUNT FOR ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF GENERAL FUND OPERATING SPENDING. THE EIR REQUIRES NO MITIGATION IN THIS RESPECT BECAUSE [03:30:01] WE SAY DEVELOPMENT FEES WOULD COVER SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS AND VEHICLES THAT POLICE NEED. IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME IF THAT WOULD COVER SALARIES AS WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS BIG SPIKE AS WE INCREASE DENSITY, WE NEED POLICE AND FIRE. ARE SALARIES COVERED? SHOULD THAT BE A MITIGATION SOMEWHERE OR ARE THEY REALLY COVERED BY IMPACT FEES? SO THIS ALL POINTS TO SOMETHING BIGGER, BIGGER, I THINK A BIGGER CONCEPT. CITIES GROW DIFFERENTLY AND THEIR RESIDENTS SHAPE THEIR CITIES IDENTITIES. PETALUMA IS A MODERATELY DENSE RIVER AND FARM TOWN AND THAT IDENTITY HAS SERVED US WELL. THE GENERAL PLAN ITSELF CELEBRATES OUR UNIQUE IDENTITY AS AN AGRICULTURAL AND RIVER TOWN WITH A STRONG SENSE OF PLACE. SO BEYOND THEORY, CRAFTING ABOUT DENSITY, AND AGAIN, PROPERTY TAX PER ACRE METRICS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HITTING, IT REALLY TELLS US LITTLE ABOUT WHAT EIGHT STORIES OR SOME OF THESE HIGHER DENSITIES THAT WE'RE PUSHING FOR WILL DO IN PETALUMA IN TERMS OF OUTCOMES FOR RESIDENTS. AND REALLY OUR STATE HOUSING OBLIGATION DOESN'T REQUIRE US TO BUILD THE EIGHT STORY BUILDINGS. WE CERTIFIED THE HOUSING ELEMENT IN 2023 WITH A ROOM CAPACITY FOR 3,200 HOMES AGAINST A TARGET REQUIREMENT OF 1900. AND THAT ALL CAME TWO YEARS BEFORE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EIGHT STORY BUILDINGS. SO ARENA IS MET, IT'S NOT CLEAR, WILL AFFECT AFFORDABILITY AT ALL. DENSITY AND SOME OF THESE OTHER METRICS AREN'T TRACKING WITH ACTUAL LIVABILITY OF A PLACE. SO IT SEEMS THE TRADE OFFS MIGHT BE LOPSIDED. THE EIR IS CLEAR ABOUT THE COSTS IN THIS FULL BUILD OUT SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS TO HISTORIC RESOURCES, CONSTRUCTION, NOISE DRIVING THE PROMISED BENEFITS, AFFORDABILITY, AND A STRONGER BUDGET ARE THE PART OF THE DATA I'M NOT SEEING. MY CONCERN IS THAT AS THIS CONCEPT HAS EVOLVED, WE TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABILITY BEING THE DRIVER FOR DENSITY AND THEN IT BECAME, WELL, WE JUST NEED HOUSING OPTIONS. NOW IT'S, WE JUST NEED TO BUILD SOMETHING. AND MY CONCERN IS REVENUES BECOMING THE REAL DRIVER OF LAND USE POLICY PROPERTY AND TRANSFER TAXES FOR THE GENERAL FUND DEVELOPMENT FEES FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS. WHEN REVENUES DRIVE THE DECISION SOLELY, ALMOST ANY PROJECT LOOKS LIKE A WIN. AND THE TRADE OFFS GET LESS SCRUTINY THAN THEY DESERVE. SO WE PUSH ASIDE CONCERNS ABOUT SENSE OF PLACE AND AESTHETICS. 'CAUSE WE NEED THE MONEY BY THE CITY'S OWN NUMBERS, THOUGH THE FULL GROWTH BUILD OUT WON'T STRENGTHEN THE GENERAL FUND. AGAIN, WE HIT A NEGATIVE. SO RESIDENTS MAY BE BETTER SERVED BY A CITY THAT LIVES WITHIN OUR REVENUE BASE. IT HAS, IT MAKES LAND USE DECISIONS BASED ON THEIR MERITS. THERE'S GOOD WORK IN HERE, INFILL IN THE, UH, THERE'S GOOD WORK IN THE GENERAL PLAN INFILL IN THE URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY FLEXIBILITY OF USES RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE. THESE ARE GOOD THINGS. BUT FIRST I, I REALLY WANT TO ASK US TO MOVE THE LENS AGAIN IN THIS PLAN AND GENERAL LAND USE POLICY, LOOK AT RESIDENT OUTCOMES. CAN WE LOOK AT EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES OFFICER AND FIREFIGHTERS PER POPULATION PARK SPACE PER CAPITA? WHETHER HOUSEHOLDS CAN AFFORD A HOME, MORE HOUSEHOLDS EVERY YEAR, WE SHOULD REPORT THOSE KIND OF QUALITATIVE METRICS WITH THE BUDGET. AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE MAJOR LAND USE DECISIONS, ASK HOW ARE WE IMPACTING THOSE KIND OF LIVABILITY METRICS FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE? UH, I'VE SAID ENOUGH ABOUT THE STATION. I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE THE EIGHT STORIES TO SIX STORIES. I DON'T SEE WE GET MUCH FROM EIGHT STORIES OTHER THAN POTENTIAL NEGATIVE DOWNSIDES TO CHARACTER SENSE OF PLACE. IF WE THINK THOSE CONSIDERATIONS AREN'T WORTH OUR TIME AND WE NEED THE MONEY OR WE THINK THERE'S GONNA BE SOME BENEFIT THAT, I'LL LEAVE THAT TO YOU. I ALSO HATE MAKER MICRO BUSINESS HATE FLEX. GET RID OF BOTH MAKER MICRO BUSINESS SHOULD BE JUST A ZONING DESIGNATION OVER BUSINESS PARK OR INDUSTRIAL. JUST MAKE A SECOND ZONING DESIGNATION. YOU DON'T NEED ALL ONE-TO-ONE GENERAL PLAN, LAND USE AND ZONING DESIGNATIONS. SO DENSITY AND TAX REVENUE ARE TOOLS AND THEY SHOULD SERVE ONE GOAL MAKING RESIDENTS' LIVES BETTER. MOST OF US HAVE MADE THE LARGEST FINANCIAL COMMITMENT OF OUR LIVES TO LIVE HERE IN THIS TOWN. AS IT IS A PLAN MEASURED BY OUR HEALTH, SAFETY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE WILL SERVE THE PEOPLE HERE NOW AND THE PEOPLE WHO COME HERE NEXT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I'M GONNA GO BACKWARDS ONE STEP. BETSY GELLI. UM, DID YOU INTEND TO HAVE MARK SPEAK FOR YOU OR TO, WAS THAT AS A REPLACEMENT OF YOU? YES, MARK IS. OKAY. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT. I THOUGHT IT WAS SEEDING TIME AND I LOOKED FOR MARK'S NAME. I COULDN'T FIND MARK'S NAME. SO MARK, YOU ARE, YOU'RE ON NOW TO BE FOLLOWED BY MAC TO TOM, UM, THOMPSON. SO THE GENERAL PLAN APPEARS HEADED FOR APPROVAL AND ADOPTION TONIGHT. AND WHILE REVIEWING DOCUMENTS ON THAT, I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE A CHANGE IN THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AROUND THE SMART TRAIN STATION. CHANGES THAT WILL ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF A TALL OR OR NUMBER OF TALL EIGHT STORY BUILDINGS. THIS IS UNHEARD OF IN PETALUMA EVER SINCE PETALUMA BEGAN TO EXIST. WHAT'S WORSE IS THAT WHEN BIG DEVELOPERS COME INTO PETALUMA TO KEEP GETTING RICH BY TRANSFORMING THE LOOK OF OUR TOWN, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE THE CALIFORNIA DENSITY LAWS TO INCREASE THE BUILDING HEIGHT UP TO 11 STORIES. AND THERE'S REALLY NOTHING WE CAN DO TO STOP THEM IF THEY DO THAT. NOW, THINK ABOUT THAT [03:35:01] FOR A MINUTE. YOU KNOW HOW TALL AN 11 STORY BUILDING IS? IT'S ABOUT THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE GRAIN SILOS ARE THAT WE HAVE ALONG THE RIVER DOWNTOWN THERE. IMAGINE WHAT THAT WILL DO TO OUR SKYLINE. IMAGINE HOW THAT'S GONNA CHANGE THE LOOK AND THE VIBE OF OUR TOWN. AND WHEN THEY BUILD THESE NEW BUILDINGS, THE NEW BUILDINGS LOOK NOTHING LIKE WHAT PETALUMA IS KNOWN FOR. BIG, UGLY BOXES THEY PUT UP, BUT IT GETS EVEN WORSE. THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING LOTS, PARKING GARAGES, ANY PARKING AT ALL. THERE'S NO REQUIREMENTS. HOW CAN THAT EVEN BE? THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE PARKING. IMAGINE PUTTING A THOUSAND NEW APARTMENTS DOWNTOWN WITH ALL THE ASSOCIATED RETAIL SPACE, ALL THAT TRAFFIC, BUT PROVIDING NO PARKING AT ALL. IT SEEMS LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THIS COUNCIL HAS AN AGENDA TO FORCE PEOPLE TO STOP DRIVING AND RELY ENTIRELY ON BICYCLES, BUSES, AND TRAINS. TO ME, THIS SEEMS DOOMED TO FAIL. I FORESEE GRIDLOCK DOWNTOWN AND PEOPLE PARKING CARS ALL OVER THE PLACE WHERE THEY DON'T BELONG. PLUM IS NOT NEW YORK OR SAN FRANCISCO, BUT IT'S HEADED THAT WAY. AND I FEEL LIKE WE'VE HAD THE WOOL PULLED OVER OUR EYES ON THIS BECAUSE PREVIOUSLY THE LAND USE MAP AND LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT WAS PART OF THE DRAFT GENERAL PLAN DID NOT ALLOW FOR THESE TALL BUILDINGS IN THAT AREA OR ANYWHERE ELSE. IT'S BEEN CHANGED. I LOOKED INTO THAT AND I FOUND THAT ON DECEMBER 15TH OF LAST YEAR, THIS COUNCIL MADE THOSE CHANGES LATE AT NIGHT IN CHRISTMAS SEASON WHEN NOT MANY PEOPLE WERE ATTENDING OR WATCHING THAT MEETING, MYSELF INCLUDED. SO TO ME THAT'S UNETHICAL TO SAY THE LEAST. THERE HAD BEEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ON THIS SUBJECT IN THE PAST, AND WE THOUGHT WE CITIZENS HAD SOME MEANINGFUL INPUT. THE DRAFT PLAN WITH LAND USE MAP WAS MADE READY. THEY CHANGED IT WHEN WE WEREN'T LOOKING. THIS IS UNFAIR. ONCE THE PEOPLE CATCH ON TO WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE, THEY WILL BE ANGRY. SO TONIGHT I URGE THIS COUNCIL TO VOTE. NO, DON'T GIVE YOUR APPROVAL TO THE GENERAL PLAN AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. PLEASE MAKE SOME WELL THOUGHT OUT CHANGES. THANK YOU MAC THOMPSON TO BE FOLLOWED BY ANTHONY BORDESSA. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR McDonnell, VICE MAYOR DI CARLEY, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY MANAGER FLYNN, DEDICATED STAFF. UH, MY NAME IS MACK THOMPSON. I'M THE UNION PRESIDENT FOR THE PETALUMA FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL 1415. UH, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO EXTEND APPRECIATION FOR THIS PROCESS, UM, AND, UH, THIS LONG PROCESS. UH, AND, UH, JUST THINKING AS I WAS SITTING HERE ABOUT THE EMAILS IN MY, UH, INBOX OF ALL THE GPAC, UM, UPDATES AND, AND, UH, HOW LONG THIS PROCESS HAS GONE ON, UM, AND ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED AND APPRECIATION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE, UM, ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS. UM, REALLY ANY STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS, UH, OR EVEN MEASURE YOU AND THE GOAL SETTING, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT, UH, SESSIONS OF, OF HEARING THE VOICES HERE TONIGHT. UM, BUT SITTING THROUGH THESE LONG MEETINGS UNTIL, YOU KNOW, 10 OR 11 AT NIGHT AND, UM, JUST APPRECIATION FOR, FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY. UM, OBVIOUSLY AS A FIREFIGHTER, I, I, I HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY LENS ON THIS GENERAL PLAN, BUT I'M HERE TONIGHT, UH, REPRESENTING THE, A LARGE EMPLOYEE GROUP FOR THIS CITY. AND, UH, JUST, UM, A BIG FOCUS FOR ME IS, IS MAKING THIS CITY, UH, UH, FOCUSING ON WORKING CONDITIONS FOR US AS FIREFIGHTERS AND, UM, AND, AND MAKING THIS A PLACE TO RETAIN QUALITY EMPLOYEES AND ATTRACT QUALITY, UH, CANDIDATES TO COME WORK HERE JUST AS WE ARE ALSO, UH, WANT TO RETAIN QUALITY BUSINESSES AND ATTRACT QUALITY BUSINESSES, UM, AND, AND RESIDENTS AND FAMILIES AND ALL. AND, AND I APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR TIME ON WORKING ON THIS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU ANTHONY ESA TO BE FOLLOWED BY BILL RIDER. GOOD EVENING MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS ANTHONY ESA. MY FATHER MICHAEL AND I OWN AND OPERATE JOHN'S DAIRY AND POOL SUPPLY AT 1305 PETALUMA BOULEVARD NORTH. I BUSINESS HAS BEEN THERE AT THAT ADDRESS SINCE 1960. MY DAD BOUGHT IT IN 1986 AND I CAME BACK TO RUN IT WITH HIM IN 2019. MY PARENTS OWN THE PROPERTY AND WE EMPLOY SEVEN PEOPLE. WE'RE ONE OF THREE BUSINESSES LEFT IN THIS REGION THAT DELIVERS DAIRY, SANITATION, AND MILK BARN SUPPLIES. AND WE'RE THE LAST ONE WITH A STOREFRONT WHERE A FARMER CAN WALK IN AND BUY THEM OFF THE SHELF IN PETALUMA, THE TOWN THAT [03:40:01] PUT ITSELF ON THE MAP WITH DAIRY AND CHICKENS. WE ALSO ARE THE ONLY POOL SUPPLY IN, IN THIS TOWN. BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE, I WANNA THANK COUNCIL MEMBER ALEX DECAR. THE REASON WE KNEW THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING AT ALL, HE BROUGHT IT TO US DIRECTLY. AND WITHOUT THAT, WITHOUT THAT, I WOULD NOT BE STANDING HERE TONIGHT. I ALSO WANNA THANK DIRECTOR BRIAN O. HE CAME INTO OUR STORE AFTER WE EMAILED A LETTER, ADDRESSING OUR CONCERNS, SAT DOWN WITH ME AND TALKED WITH ME ABOUT WHAT THIS REZONING MEANS FOR OUR BUSINESS. WE APPRECIATE THAT HE TOLD, BRIAN, TOLD US THAT IF WE DESCRIBE EXACTLY HOW OUR BUSINESS OPERATES, LIKE HE MENTIONED EARLIER, THE CITY WOULD MAKE SURE THOSE OPERATIONS WERE ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE NEW ZONING. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TAKE HIM UP ON THAT OFFER. I'M NOT GOING TO READ OUR OPERATIONS IN THE PUBLIC RECORD TONIGHT. WE'VE OFFERED IT TO DIRECTOR O DIRECTLY, UH, EXCUSE ME, TO DIRECTOR O DIRECTLY. AND WE WILL PUT IT IN AND WE WILL PUT IT IN WHATEVER FORMS HIS TEAM NEEDS. WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A SEAT IN THE CONVERSATION AND A COMMITMENT THAT WE HAVE, A COMMITMENT THAT WHAT WE HAND OVER ACTUALLY ENDS UP IN THE CODE. MY ASK TONIGHT IS THAT BEFORE THE COUNCIL ADOPTS THE NEW GENERAL PLAN, YOU GIVE THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE POTENTIALLY BEING REZONED A PROCESS TO SUBMIT HOW WE OPERATE AND WRITE THOSE OPERATIONS INTO THE NCMU OR MAKE OR MICRO CODE AS PERMITTED USES PERMITTED BY RIGHT, NOT GRANDFATHERED OR NOT LEGAL NONCONFORMING. THE REAL DIFFERENCE IS GRANDFATHER MEANS WE CAN KEEP THE LIGHTS ON, BUT WE CAN'T EXPAND. GOD FORBID, WE CAN'T REBUILD IF THERE'S A FIRE. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE CANNOT PASS THESE MULTI-GENERATIONAL BUSINESSES DOWN TO THE NEXT GENERATION. THAT'S NOT PROTECTION. IT'S A SLOW EXIT. WE LIKE TO SEE THE LANGUAGE BEFORE THE CODE IS ADOPTED, WHILE IT CAN STILL BE CHANGED. IF THE COUNCIL CANNOT MAKE THAT HAPPEN, THEN OUR REQUEST IS SIMPLE. LEAVE US C ONE UNTIL YOU CAN DELIVER ON THE ASK. WE HAVE BEEN AT 1305 FOR 66 YEARS. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO EXIST. WE'RE ASKING YOU, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO WRITE IT IN THE CODE. DO THAT AND WE'LL BE AROUND FOR ANOTHER 60. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU BILL RIDER TO BE FOLLOWED BY TOM GAFFEY. UH, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH, MY NAME IS BILL RIDER, UH, MYSELF AND MY FATHER, BILL SR. OWN AND OPERATE JM BELL'S TIRE SERVICE, LOCATED AT 1282 PETALUMA BOULEVARD NORTH, UH, ADJACENT TO CINNABAR LANE. UH, I'M HERE TO EXPRESS SERIOUS CONCERNS REGARDING THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATES AND THE REZONING OF OUR INDUSTRIAL ZONES. UH, FOR A DECISION THAT COMPLETELY ALTERS OUR LIVELIHOODS, THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE COMMUNITY OUTREACH, ENGAGEMENT AND CLARIFICATION. BY FORCING LONGSTANDING BUSINESSES INTO A LEGAL NON-CONFORMING STATUS, YOU ARE CREATING MASSIVE FINANCIAL UNCERTAINTY. WE NEED DIRECT ANSWERS, UH, UPON RETIREMENT. CAN WE SELL OUR BUSINESSES AS THEY CURRENTLY OPERATE OR WITH A ZONING STRIP AWAY? OUR EQUITY BY LIMITING FUTURE USES FOR OUR PROPERTIES WILL BE, WILL BE WILL WE BE ALLOWED TO LEASE TO NEW INDUSTRIAL TENANTS OR OUR SPECIALIZED BUILDINGS? BE UN RENTABLE. UH, WE URGE YOU TO PAUSE, RECONSIDER, AND STOP THE REZONING OF THESE INDUSTRIAL AREAS UNTIL LOCAL BUSINESSES, BUSINESS OWNERS ARE PROPERLY BROUGHT TO THE TABLE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU TOM GAFFEY TO BE FOLLOWED BY BEN PETERS. HEY, EVERYBODY. UH, HEATHER AND RON AGAIN. YOU GUYS DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB. HE WAS HERDING CATS FOR A WHILE AND IT REALLY WORKED OUT WELL. UH, THE ONLY ISSUE I HAVE STILL IS THE, UH, SMART TRAIN LOT. PETALUMA HAS BEEN ASKED BY THE STATE OF, OF CALIFORNIA TO AT LEAST BUILD 1900 UNITS PLUS, UH, WE'VE SUBMITTED A PLAN. UH, THOSE ARE RESIDENTIAL UNITS. A PETALUMA SUBMITTED A PLAN. THE STATE SAID, YEAH, THAT LOOKS GOOD. AND WE HAVE HOUSING GOING UP ALL OVER TOWN RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S GOING UP AT FOUR STORIES. WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO EIGHT STORIES IN THAT TRAIN LOT. IF THE ONLY REASON WE WANT TO MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE AND ALLOW DEVELOPERS TO GO TO EIGHT STORIES IS JUST FOR THAT REASON TO FILL THAT SPACE. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT PETALUMA EVEN NEEDS TO WORRY ABOUT AS A CITY. WE DON'T OWN THAT PROPERTY. SOMEONE ELSE OWNS IT. THEY CAME IN LATE, THEY BOUGHT IT, THEY KNEW WHAT THEY'VE GOT. IT'S NOT THE CITY'S JOB TO BEND TO THE WHAT THE DEVELOPERS NEED. EIGHT STORIES THAT COULD POSSIBLY LEAD US TO 11 AND 12 STORIES IN THAT AREA WOULD BE A TERRIBLE SITUATION. SO JOHN MENTIONED THAT, UH, THIS, THAT MAYBE THE COUNCIL WILL COME BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. AND I'M HERE TO SAY, PLEASE DO I THINK, UH, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA GO AHEAD AND SIGN OFF ON THIS THING TONIGHT, BUT PLEASE LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN TO, TO RECONSIDER [03:45:01] THOSE HEIGHTS IN THAT AREA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU BEN PETERS TO BE FOLLOWED BY JESSICA MOSES. GREAT, UH, CONVERSATION THUS FAR. UM, I'LL KIND OF TOUCH ON A COUPLE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID. UM, YOU KNOW ABOUT THE, THE DENSITY TOPIC, RIGHT? SO, UH, THERE WAS CONVERSATION ABOUT DENSITY AND AFFORDABILITY AND YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, I WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION WHEN WE ADOPTED THE BLUEPRINT. AND WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DENSITY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CLIMATE. OKAY? AND SO WHAT IS CLEAR IS THAT DENSITY REDUCES VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED, PERIOD. IT WAS INTERESTING TO HEAR COMMENTARY AROUND THERE WOULD BE CONGESTION AND THERE WOULD BE POSSIBLY EMISSIONS FROM THAT. AND MAYBE WE SHOULD DO SOME AIR QUALITY STUDIES. WHAT I HEAR IS NIMBY TALK, OKAY? IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE CLIMATE, YOU WOULD HAVE GONE TO THE CLIMATE ACTION COMMISSION. YOU DID NOT. I INVITE YOU TO COME TO THE NEXT MEETING IF YOU CARE ABOUT EMISSIONS. IF YOU'RE USING EMISSIONS TO FOOT FIGHT AGAINST A PROJECT THAT YOU DO NOT LIKE. THAT IS THE TOOL OF THE NIMBY AND WE NEED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. OKAY? THE SECOND THEME THAT I HEARD WAS AROUND A FAILURE TO HAVE A VISION FOR THE FUTURE WHERE PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE CARS. AND WHAT I HAVE HEARD IS THE PEOPLE WHO STRUGGLE WITH THAT VISION DO NOT HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN. I HAVE A COUPLE YOUNG CHILDREN, AND WHAT I AM WORKING TOWARDS IS A FUTURE WHERE THEY DO NOT NEED A CAR. THAT IS A FUTURE THAT I AM WORKING TOWARD. AND WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE SAY, I CANNOT IMAGINE A FUTURE WHERE THERE ARE NO CARS, I CAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH YOUNG CHILDREN CAN. IF YOU WERE TO POLL FAMILIES IN PETALUMA AND ASK THEM, WHAT DO YOU SEE FOR THE NEXT VISION FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS, THEY WOULD SAY, A TALL BUILDING NEXT TO A TRAIN STATION SO THAT MY KIDS CAN GROW UP AND TAKE THE TRAIN. THAT THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT CAN SEE THAT VISION. NOW I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT STRUGGLE WITH THAT AND THAT THEY ARE IN THE MINDSET. THEY ARE. I DO, I DO NOT MEAN ANY DISRESPECT TO THAT, BUT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT FAILURE TO SEE THAT VISION FOR THE FUTURE. OKAY? THE LAST THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS QUALITY OF LIFE. RIGHT? WE WILL NOT HAVE A FUTURE IF WE DO NOT WORK ON OUR CLIMATE IMPACTS. AND SO HIGHER DENSITY FOR OUR FUTURE, FOR THE CLIMATE IS THE RIGHT DECISION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JESSICA MOSES TO BE FOLLOWED BY CHRISTINE WHITE. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. I'M JESSICA MOSES, A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING AS CHAIR FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. I WANT TO OFFER A HARDY CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THE GENERAL PLAN, ESPECIALLY THE MEMBERS OF GPAC WHO PUT SO MUCH INTO THIS MULTI-YEAR PROCESS AND TO STAFF WHO HAVE SHEPHERDED THIS COMPLEX PROCESS THROUGH MANY, MANY, MANY HOURS IN CHAMBERS AND THROUGHOUT PUBLIC WORKSHOPS, SURVEYS, AND COMMON PERIODS ON PLANNING COMMISSION. WE HAD LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO WEIGH IN ON THE GENERAL PLAN. AND WE GET THE DISTINCT WONKY HONOR OF CARRYING THIS VISION FORWARD INTO POLICY IMPLEMENTATION BY WAY OF THE AFOREMENTIONED ZONING REFORM. COME ON BACK TOMORROW NIGHT IF YOU WANNA PARTY ON THAT. UH, WITH THAT, I WANT TO MAKE TWO POINTS. IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER FIRSTLY, THAT HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS ARE AN UPPER LIMIT, NOT AN EDICT FOR DEVELOPMENT. THE QUESTION OF SIX VERSUS EIGHT HAS BEEN A HOT TOPIC. AND I THINK AFTER DECADES OF SIX BEING THE LIMIT, WE OUGHT TO GIVE IT A SHOT AT ALLOWING UP TO EIGHT TO SEE IF WE CAN GET ANY TRACTION ON A VACANT, ON A VACANT LOT. THAT WOULD BE A GREAT LOCATION FOR PETALUMA TO LIVE, WOULD BE RESIDENTS WHO GET TO MAKE THEIR HOME AT THAT LOCATION, WOULD BE SUPPORTED BY PUBLIC TRANSIT AND ENJOY A RICH LIFE WITH PROXIMITY TO DOWNTOWN AND ALL. ALL IT HAS TO OFFER SIX HASN'T BEEN WORKING. THE LOT HAS SAT EMPTY. AND AN INCREMENTAL CHANGE TO EIGHT IS I THINK, VERY REASONABLE. POINT TWO, [03:50:01] A LOT OF THOUGHTFUL INPUT, FEEDBACK, AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT HAS GONE INTO THIS MULTI-YEAR PROCESS. IT HAS BEEN A ROBUST CONVERSATION ACROSS OUR BODY AND THE OTHER CITY COMMITTEES, ALONG WITH NUMEROUS PUBLIC WORKSHOPS AND COMMENT PERIODS TO THROW OUT THAT EFFORT AT THIS STAGE WOULD BE MALPRACTICE AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, I IMPLORE YOU AS OUR DEMO DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES TO RESPECT AND SUPPORT THAT EFFORTFUL PROCESS BY APPROVING THE PLAN AS RECOMMENDED HERE. THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN. THANK YOU CHRISTINE WHITE TO BE FOLLOWED BY BRENT NEWELL. THANK YOU MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND ALL THOSE WHO HAVE SPOKEN ON THIS ISSUE. I'M JUST GONNA PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT ALEX SAID. YOU HAVE PROPOSED THAT WE HAVE AN EIGHT STORY BUILDING IN THAT LOT BY THE SMART TRAIN. AND YOUR COMMENT WAS, I BELIEVE THAT JUST BECAUSE WE SAY EIGHT STORIES DOESN'T MEAN IT WILL HAPPEN. IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET. SO ALEX WAS TALKING ABOUT THE CITY OF SAN RAFAEL. THE CITY OF SAN RAFAEL APPROVED A 17 STORY 180 FOOT TALL RESIDENTIAL TOWER FEATURING 200 DWELLING UNITS AND COMMERCIAL SPACE. IT WILL REPLACE AN EMPTY OFFICE BUILDING AND BECOME THE TALLEST BUILDING IN MARIN COUNTY. THERE'S ANOTHER PROPOSED BY A DEVELOPER. IT'S A PROJECT THAT FEATURES 13 STORIES, 189 APARTMENT BUILDINGS. THIS IS NOT JUST, OH, MAYBE IT'S GONNA HAPPEN. THESE ARE HAPPENING. AND LASTLY, THE CITY HAS PLANNING MAPS. ALSO NOTE, A PRELIMINARY APPLICATION FOR A 24 STORY MIXED USE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT WITH 345 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. SO YOU SAY, YES, WE SHOULD DO THIS EIGHT STORY, BUT TO ME, YOU'RE OPENING IT. THAT EIGHT STORY BECOMES 10 STORIES, OR I THINK IT'S 11 BECAUSE OF THE STATE. SO THAT'S NOT PETALUMA, SAN RAFAEL IS NOT PETALUMA. I DON'T DISAGREE THAT WE NEED SOMETHING BY THE SMART TRAIN, BUT I THINK YOU CAN GO LOOK AT ADOBE STRUCTURE. YOU CAN GO FOUR STORIES AND HAVE MULTIPLE BUILDINGS THERE AND BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE NUMBER OF DWELLINGS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET. I THINK THAT IS A GOOD LOCATION FOR SOMETHING. IT IS CLOSE TO THE SMART TRAIN, NOT SO CLOSE TO A GROCERY STORE UNLESS THEY LIKE GROCERY OUTLET. BUT, UH, ANYWAY, SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, BRENT NEWELL. UH, GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS. UM, MY NAME IS BRENT NEWELL. I AM, UH, BEEN RECENTLY, UH, ASKED BY MY COLLEAGUES ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO SERVE, UH, AS CHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOLLOWING JESSICA. UH, JESSICA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. WHERE'D YOU GO? OVER HERE? THANK YOU. UM, , UH, I'M ALSO AN ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY. I SERVED ON THE GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND I'M RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL TO REPRESENT DISTRICT TWO. UH, I'D REALLY LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY, MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO THANK THE STAFF OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. UH, THE M GROUP CONSULTANTS RETAINED TO SUPPORT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UM, RON AND OUR OTHER RETAINED CONSULTANTS, UH, AND ESPECIALLY THE GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. I, I HOPE MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE ATTENDED SOME OF THOSE BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE WORKED REALLY HARD. THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME PROVIDING VERY THOUGHTFUL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT FORMED THE BASIS OF THIS DRAFT GENERAL PLAN THAT CAME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED. AND MANY, MANY, UH, MEETINGS. UH, YOU KNOW, THIS REPRESENTS THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE HANDS DOWN PUBLIC PLANNING PROCESS THE CITY HAS EVER UNDERTAKEN. THERE HAVE BEEN HUNDREDS OF MEETINGS. UH, THERE HAVE BEEN THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF VOLUNTEER TIME, NOT CITY STAFF TIME, BUT VOLUNTEER TIME ON ALL THOSE COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES, UH, TO REVIEW DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN UNDER THEIR PURVIEW. UM, IT'S JUST ASTOUNDING TO ME, UH, HOW MANY PETALUMA CARED ENOUGH TO SHOW UP TO HELP DEVELOP THIS PLAN. UM, I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO EVERYTHING THAT IT, IT DOES. I'M JUST GOING TO DO THREE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS. UM, IT'S GONNA SUPPORT MORE AFFORDABLE HOME CHOICES. IT'S GOING TO ENCOURAGE MORE SMALL BUSINESSES AND MORE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT [03:55:01] THROUGH THE CONCEPT OF NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS AND MORE WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT'S GONNA FLOURISH, UH, MORE SMALL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES. AND IT'S GONNA ADDRESS REALLY IMPORTANT KEY GOALS FOR TRANSPORTATION IN OUR COMMUNITY. ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE GONNA MA HELP MAKE PETALUMA THRIVE. I URGE YOU TO VOTE YES AND APPROVE THIS PLAN BECAUSE OF ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT AND VERY GOOD WORK THAT IT HAS TAKEN TO PUT THIS TOGETHER. NOW. IT'S THE BEST THING FOR THIS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WITH THAT, WE GO TO ZOOM. WE DID ACTUALLY RECEIVE ONE ADDITIONAL CARD AFTER THE TIME. IF YOU WANT, PLEASE READ THE NAME. UH, FRED SHOTWELL. FRED, DO YOU HAVE THE FLOOR HERE? GOOD EVENING. MY NAME'S FRED SHOTWELL. I OWN THE PROPERTY ON CINA BAR LANE TWO 13TH, CNA BAR. UH, I GOT HERE A LITTLE BIT LATE THIS EVENING, BUT, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S BEEN MIXED USE, UH, MY PROPERTY SINCE, UH, LIKE 91 I THINK. UH, SO I WOULD URGE YOU TO CONTINUE WITH THAT. UM, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD, UM, GRANDFATHER THAT IN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING THAT BUSINESS NOW THAT OWN THAT BUSINESS, UH, JUST RECENTLY BOUGHT THAT. THEY INVESTED A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY THERE. UM, THEY BOUGHT IT TO, UH, BE ABLE TO, UH, RETIRE THERE AT SOME POINT IN TIME. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT, UM, WHEN THE TIME COMES TO SELL, THAT THEY COULD, IT COULD CONTINUE AS A BODY SHOP. UM, THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN REALLY, IS FOR THEM. UM, THEY PUT IN A LOT OF HARD WORK, A LOT OF BIG MONEY WENT OUT ON A LIMB FOR THAT. SO, UM, I APPRECIATE IT IF IT STAYS MIXED USE, MIXED USE AND, UH, FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO SELL THAT AT SOME TIME FOR RETIREMENT. UM, SO I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT. AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND NOW TO ZOOM, OUR FIRST, UH, REMOTE SPEAKER IS SUSAN KIRKS, IF YOU WOULD UNMUTE YOURSELF. THANK YOU, CAITLIN. UM, SUSAN KIRKS, UH, SPEAKING ABOUT THE EIR AND THE GENERAL PLAN BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. UH, WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER SHRIVES, THE ONLY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO RAISED IMPORTANT ISSUES AT YOUR LAST REVIEW OF THE DEIR. AND I AM HERE TO SAY THIS EVENING THAT YOUR CONSULTANTS HAVE NOT DONE THE WORK THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE, THAT WAS REQUESTED. THERE HAS BEEN NO GROUND TRUTHING, WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT OF BRINGING THEORETICALS INTO REALITY. WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A GENERAL PLAN AND AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE ENVIRONMENT. THAT'S WHY AN EIR IS COMPLETED. IT ISN'T JUST ABOUT WHAT PARCELS YOU CAN SELECT, WHAT PROJECTS CAN THEN BE PROPOSED AND THEN HAVE SITE SPECIFIC ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS DONE. THIS GENERAL PLAN SHOULD REFLECT THE ENVIRONMENT OF PETALUMA. THAT INCLUDES THE NATURAL FEATURES, BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES, AND OPEN SPACE. AND BECAUSE MY TIME IS LIMITED, I JUST WANT THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE SIX DOCUMENTED WILDLIFE CORRIDORS HERE IN PETALUMA. I HAVE MAPPED THEM. I OFFERED TO MEET WITH THE CONSULTANTS. I HAVE CONTACTED THE CONSULTANTS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. NEVER RECEIVED ANY RESPONSE WHATSOEVER. COUNCIL MEMBER REBS ASKED THE CONSULTANTS TO DO THE GROUND TRUTHING TO DO THE EXTRA WORK, TO LOOK AT THE BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES. THEY'VE USED THINGS LIKE THE CALIFORNIA NATURAL DIVERSITY DATABASE. THEY'VE USED INTERNET AND ONLINE TOOLS TO TRY AND IDENTIFY SOME OF OUR BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES. AND THEY HAVE REALLY MISSED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES. AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE WILDLIFE CORRIDORS BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE. THE IDEA THAT SONOMA VALLEY WILDLIFE CORRIDOR IS EVEN INCLUDED IN THE PETALUMA GENERAL PLAN AND EIR IS FRANKLY LAUGHABLE. WHY IS IT EVEN THERE? IT'S A SMALL WILDLIFE CORRIDOR OVER IN THE SOUTHEAST PORTION OF SONOMA COUNTY. IT DOES NOT [04:00:01] EXTEND TO MARIN COUNTY OR OUT TO THE COAST. IT STOPS AND MEETS ONE OF THE WILDLIFE CORRIDORS IN PETALUMA. PETALUMA VALLEY IS VERY SIGNIFICANT FOR THE GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION OF OUR ENVIRONMENT AND HOW WILDLIFE LIVE HERE, TRY TO SURVIVE AND MOVE. SO IF YOU APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, YOU ARE SELLING SHORT OUR PETALUMA COMMUNITY AND OUR, OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, OUR FEATURES AND ALL OF OUR WILDLIFE THAT I WOULD SAY NOW THANK YOU PEOPLE IN, PEOPLE IN PETALUMA CARE MORE ABOUT THAN EVER. AND OUR NEXT SPEAKER, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MAUREEN. UH OH, NO, I'M SORRY. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MATT FRANCOIS. MATT, CAN YOU HEAR US? YES, I CAN. GOOD EVENING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR McDonnell AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MATT FRANCOIS AND I'M A LAND USE LAWYER. MY FIRM REPRESENTS ERS PROPERTIES, THE OWNER OF THE PLAZA NORTH SHOPPING CENTER. FIRST, I WANNA APPLAUD THE CITY'S EFFORTS TO PROACTIVELY UNDERTAKE THIS LARGE LAND USE PLANNING EFFORT TO GUIDE YOUR FUTURE CITY GROWTH AND CONGRATULATE YOU ON REACHING THIS MAJOR MILESTONE. AS YOU KNOW, MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY HAS BEEN USED FOR DECADES AS A COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTER IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY APPROVALS AND PLANNING AND ZONING REGULATIONS. MY CLIENT HAS MADE SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENTS IN THE CENTER AND PLANS TO MAKE ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS SO THAT IT CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE PLAZA NORTH AS A SHOPPING CENTER FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. SO THAT HIS, MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN USED EXCLUSIVELY FOR COMMERCIAL USES AND WILL LIKELY CONTINUE TO REMAIN DEVOTED EXCLUSIVELY TO COMMERCIAL USES BASED ON OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROPOSED GENERAL PLAN ALLOWS 100% COMMERCIAL USES ON THE PLAZA NORTH SITE. WE DO NOT OPPOSE THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE. IF THERE WERE TO BE ANY CHANGES OR CONDITIONS REQUIRING OR MANDATING A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE, WE WOULD OPPOSE SUCH PROVISIONS AS BEING INCONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF MY CLIENT'S VIEWS ON THIS MATTER AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MAUREEN. HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. GO AHEAD. GREAT. HI, UM, THIS IS MAUREEN GOTCHU. UH, I TOO WANNA THANK EVERYONE. I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LONG ROAD, A LOT OF WORK, UM, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORTS. UH, SO WHEN STAFF CALLED THE EIGHT STORIES A NATURAL INCREASE, THERE'S NOTHING NATURAL ABOUT IT. THIS COUNCIL AGREED TO SIX, THEN A MAJORITY OF THIS COUNCIL OVERWROTE IT TO EIGHT. THAT'S A DECISION THAT'S NOT NATURE. WHAT IS NOT BEING HEARD HERE IS THE COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY ENGAGED. WE WERE, THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT GROUPS OF PEOPLE ENGAGED IN THIS AND WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT. AND THE MAJORITY, WHAT THE MAJORITY SAID IS THAT WE ONCE SIX, THESE ARE YOUR CONSTITUENTS. PLEASE LISTEN TO THEM. YES, THE DENSITY BONUS LAW IS FROM 1979. BUT WHAT THE CITY FAILED TO MENTION IN ITS EXPLANATION IS THAT THE RULES THAT MATTER ARE NEW SINCE 2022. NO PARKING CAN BE REQUIRED NEAR THE STATION SINCE 2023. A SECOND STACKED BONUS TAKES THE MAXIMUM TO A HUNDRED PERCENT. THESE ARE THE INCENTIVES. DEVELOPERS ARE NOW STARTING TO USE THIS COUNCIL. CANNOT CHANGE STATE LAW, BUT IT CAN SET THE BASE, SET THE LIMIT AT SIX, AND THE BONUS LANDS AT EIGHT. SET IT AT EIGHT AND YOU'RE INVITING 10 TO 12. SIX IS IS THE MITIGATION. IT IS WHERE WE HAVE THE CONTROL. SAN RAFAEL IS THE TEST CASE. WE ARE NEXT WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT. PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION NOW. STAFF SAID THERE ARE PLANS IN PLACE TO MITIGATE WATER. THE ERA NAMES THEM. MANDATORY RATIONING UNDER THE WATER SHORTAGE. CONS, CONTINGENCY PLAN. WELLS, THE CITY SAYS IT CANNOT RELY ON AND RECYCLED WATER ALREADY COUNTED. NOT ONE IS A NEW SUPPLY. THE CITY'S OWN CONSULTANT PROJECTS A 12% SHORTFALL IN EVERY DRY YEAR FROM 2030 ON. THE [04:05:01] PLAN FOR THAT GAP IS TO MAKE EXISTING RATE PAYERS USE LESS BECAUSE THE UTILITIES COSTS ARE FIXED AND PAY MORE FOR IT. THIS IS NOT MITIGATION. THAT IS A RATE INCREASE WITH EXTRA STEPS. PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS NATHAN SPINEL. GOOD EVENING. NATHAN SPINEL HERE, PARENT, HOMEOWNER AND BUSINESS OWNER AND DISTRICT FIVE. THANK YOU TO THE GPAC, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, CITY STAFF COUNCIL, AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO PUT YEARS OF WORK INTO THIS PLAN. PLEASE ADOPT GENERAL PLAN 2050 TONIGHT. I WANT PETALUMA TO BE A PLACE WHERE FAMILIES CAN AFFORD TO LIVE, WHERE KIDS CAN SAFELY BIKE TO SCHOOL AND WHERE THE CITY STAYS ON SOLID FINANCIAL FOOTING. THIS PLAN MOVES US ON ALL THREE TONIGHT. I'LL SPEAK TO TWO OF THEM. FIRST, AFFORDABILITY, THE 2008 GENERAL PLAN PROJECTED 6,000 NEW HOMES BY 2025. PETALUMA ONLY BUILT ABOUT HALF OF THAT. AND EVERY FAMILY TRYING TO LIVE HERE IS PAYING FOR IT. SO IS EVERY SENIOR WHO WANTS TO DOWNSIZE. THE NEW PLAN MAKES PETALUMA MORE AFFORDABLE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION BECAUSE EVERY NEW HOME BUILT SOFTENS PRICES FOR EVERYONE FROM MARKET RATE TO AFFORDABLE. SECONDLY, SUSTAINABLE FINANCIAL FOOTING. PETALUMA IS ALREADY BEHIND ON THE ROADS. WE HAVE AN INFILL ON EXISTING STREETS ASS TAXPAYERS WITHOUT ADDING PAVEMENT. THAT'S ALSO MY ANSWER TO DARREN SEN'S RECOMMENDATION ABOUT LIVING WITHIN THEIR REVENUE SOURCES. PETALUMA ALREADY HAS THAT DOESN'T SQUARE WITH HOW CITY BUDGETS WORK IN CALIFORNIA. PROPS 13 LIMITS THE GROWTH OF EXISTING PROPERTY TO 2% A YEAR WHILE THE COST OF POLICE, FIRE AND PAVING RISES WITH INFLATION, WHICH RAN ABOVE 4% IN RECENT YEARS. THE CITY WHOSE REVENUE GROWS AT 2% AND WHOSE COSTS GROW AT 4% IS NOT LIVING WITH ITS MEANS. IT'S FALLING A LITTLE FURTHER BEHIND EVERY YEAR. THE SERVICES, DARREN RIGHTLY CALLS ESSENTIAL NEED A REVENUE BASE THAT GENTLY GROWS TO PAY FOR THEM. SMART, DENSE, INFILL DOES EXACTLY THAT. NEW HOMES ON EXISTING STREETS ARE ASSESSED AT TODAY'S PROPERTY TAX VALUES. I'D BE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT OTHER SOLUTIONS FOLKS HAVE IN MIND. 'CAUSE I DON'T SEE HOW WE KEEP PROVIDING ESSENTIAL SERVICES WITHOUT GROWING THE REVENUE THAT PAYS FOR THEM. CONGRATULATIONS ON OUR OWN PLAN. 2050 IS THIS STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR PETALUMA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THAT CLOSES, UM, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE NIGHT. CORRECT? I'D LIKE TO BRING IT, UH, BACK UP TO DAAS. UM, A LOT THERE. I APPRECIATE, UH, ALL THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS WHO CAME IN TO SPEAK AND OTHERS WHO CAME IN TO SPEAK. AND, UM, WHERE SHALL THE DELIBERATION START? SO COUNCIL MEMBER BARNACLE, YOU'RE THE PLANNING LIAISON, PLEASE, UH, KICK HIM OUT. I'M HAPPY TO. THANK YOU. UM, I WANNA START BY ADDRESSING ONE OF THE, THE COMMENTS ABOUT MARIN COUNTY BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE MAYBE EITHER I'M MISUNDERSTANDING OR SOMEONE ELSE'S. UM, SO WHEN I LOOKED INTO THE MARIN COUNTY, UM, THEY HAVE A FORM BASE CODE, RIGHT, THAT HAS NO DENSITY, RIGHT? RIGHT NOW AT THE TRAIN STATION, IT'S SIX STORIES WITH NO DENSITY LIMITS, RIGHT? SO LIKE THE THING THAT IS ENABLING MARIN COUNTY TO GO UP TO 12 AND 24 STORIES RIGHT NOW IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AT THE STATION, WHICH IS NO DENSITY LIMITS. SO I JUST WANT TO SET THE, LIKE IN TERMS OF LIKE PUTTING THIS INTO CONTEXT, WE'RE INTRODUCING DENSITY LIMITS WHERE THERE CURRENTLY IS NONE. AND SO THE, WE ARE MORE LIKELY TO SEE LIKE, EXTREMELY DENSE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW. THEN WE WOULD BE IN A FUTURE SCENARIO WHERE WE INTRODUCE A MAXIMUM DENSITY THRESHOLD. SO, UM, IF SOMEONE SAYS, LET'S KEEP IT JUST THE WAY IT IS NOW, WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS, IS WE WANT UNLIMITED DENSITY AT THE TRAIN STATION. AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN MARIN COUNTY IS THAT UNLIMITED DENSITY, UM, IS RESULTING IN SIGNIFICANTLY TALLER BUILDINGS THAN THEY ENVISIONED IN THEIR PLANNING PROCESSES. SO I JUST, IS THAT, IS THAT ACCURATE? DID I MIS MISCONSTRUE THINGS? OKAY, THANK YOU. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I, UM, THAT I, I GET THAT RIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I INTERPRETED IT AND I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT. UM, SO NOW I'LL MOVE INTO MY SORT OF COMMENTS. UM, THIS IS THE CULMINATION OF FIVE YEARS OF WORK, AS HAS ALREADY BEEN POINTED OUT. UM, AND IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE TYPE OF CITY WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO BECOME IN 25 YEARS. AND THE CHOICES WE'RE GONNA MAKE, UM, [04:10:01] A TON HAS CHANGED SINCE OUR LAST GENERAL PLAN. IN 2008, WE THOUGHT RETAIL AND SALES TAX WAS GONNA SAVE US, AND THEN WE SAW ONLINE RETAIL COME ON. AND THAT HAS DRAMATICALLY IMPACTED BRICK AND MORTAR RETAIL FOR OUR ENTIRE CITY. AND WE SEE IT IN OUR OFFICE PART OR WE SEE IT IN OUR COMMERCIAL CENTERS. UM, WORK FROM HOME. ZOOM HAS COMPLETELY CHANGED THE WORK ENVIRONMENT AND NOW WE HAVE A BUNCH OF VACANT OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT WE NEED TO TRY AND FILL. UM, IN 2008 WHEN THIS WAS ADOPTED, HOMES WERE, UH, WELL UNDER $300,000. AND RIGHT NOW THE MEDIAN HOME VALUE IS OVER $900,000. WAGES HAVE NOT GROWN THAT FAST FOLKS. UM, OUR POPULATION IS AGING. A THIRD OF OUR POPULATION ARE SENIOR CITIZENS RIGHT NOW. AND AS I THINK IT WAS COUNCIL MEMBER QUINT SHARED FROM A, A FORUM HE WAS AT THAT COULD GROW TO 40% BY UH, LIKE MID 2030S I THINK IT WAS. UM, SO WE'VE GOT, UH, A POPULATION THAT'S AGING, UH, INCREASINGLY GOING TO BE RELYING ON FIXED INCOMES. UM, AND OUR TAX BASE, AS NATHAN POINTED OUT, UM, PROP 13 LIMITS OUR TAX BASE GROWTH AT 2%. UM, AND MEANWHILE, OUR, OUR BENEFITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES ARE GROWING WELL IN ADVANCE OF 2% A YEAR. THEY'RE GROWING AT MORE LIKE SEVEN TO 10%, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. IS THAT, IS THAT ACCURATE? OKAY. UM, SO WE'VE GOT, UH, A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE ARE, UM, THAT WE'RE TACKLING THAT'S JUST THE SORT OF LIKE BARE BONES REALITY OF THE DATA AND HOW THINGS HAVE SHIFTED OVER THE LAST, UM, 20 YEARS. UM, AND THE GENERAL PLAN HAS TO HOLD ALL THOSE THINGS AT ONCE AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE PERFECT. BUT PLANNING ISN'T AN EXERCISE AT OPTIMIZING FOR ONE THING. IT'S AN EXERCISE IN BALANCING MULTIPLE PRIORITIES. AND I THINK THIS PLAN DOES THAT PRETTY DANG WELL. IT'S FIVE YEARS IN THE MAKING AND WE'VE HAD THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF PAID TIME, THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF VOLUNTEER TIME. UM, AND WE'RE NOT ALL GONNA AGREE ON EVERYTHING. UM, BUT I THINK, UH, WHEN WE GET DOWN TO IT, UM, THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT I THINK THINK WE JUST ALL NEED TO HOLD HERE. UM, LAST IN 2024, WE MADE A PLAN. WE, THE 70% OF CALIF OF PETALUMA EXTENDED OUR URBAN GROWTH BOUNDARY OUT TO 2050. AND THERE'S A BASIC BARGAIN THERE THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA GROW OUTWARD. AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE PROTECTED. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, IS THIS PLAN OF THE 9,000 ACRES WITHIN OUR CITY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT TOUCHES LIKE MAYBE 5% OF THE LAND USES IN OUR CITY OF THE 9,000 ACRES AND LOOKING AT VERY TARGETED AREAS OF CHANGE. SO THE BARGAIN THAT I SEE HERE IS, IS THAT WE HAVE PRESERVED THE ACREAGE ON THE OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY. THE AGRICULTURE, THE ROLLING HILLS, THE GREEN FARMS, THE THINGS THAT I THINK REALLY DEFINE OUR COMMUNITY. UM, AND WE HAVE, UH, PRESERVED THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE ALL LIVE IN. UM, WE'RE NOT PUTTING FOUR STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS IN EVERY SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE NOT PUTTING EIGHT STORY BUILDINGS ALONG EVERY CORRIDOR. UM, THIS IS A PRETTY DARN TARGETED THING. SO THE TRADE OFF HERE AND THE BARGAIN HERE IS, IS THAT WE'RE PRESERVING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE'RE PRESERVING THE EDGES OF OUR CITY FOR ROUGHLY 5% OF THE LAND IN OUR CITY GETTING CHANGED OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS. AND, UM, THE FACT THAT WE'RE HERE TALKING ABOUT ONE FOUR ACRE PARCEL IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, THE THING, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, UH, THE EIGHT STORIES WAS THE, THE NUMBER ONE THING IN THERE, RIGHT? SO ONE FOUR ACRE PARCEL OUT OF THE 9,000 ACRES IS THE THING THAT HAS GOT US UP IN ARMS. UM, I I, UH, I RESPECT EVERYBODY'S FEELINGS ON THAT. AND YOU KNOW, MY POSITION IS IS THAT UM, IF THERE IS A PLACE TO DO THAT, IT'S THERE. UM, SO I WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO JUST ADDRESS SOME OF THE, THE CHALLENGES OR SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD. UM, ONE, THE COMMENT ABOUT DENSITY AND AFFORDABILITY, I DON'T THINK ANYONE SAYS THAT DENSITY ALONE IS WHAT THE DRIVER OF AFFORDABILITY IS. WHAT PEOPLE SAY IS THAT HOUSING SUPPLY IS CRITICAL TO SOLVING AFFORDABILITY. AND DARREN, YOUR YOUR PAPER, WHICH WAS VERY HELPFUL ACTUALLY ACKNOWLEDGES THAT STRAIGHT UP. AND I'M JUST GONNA SHARE SOMETHING. COUNCIL MEMBER, SHRI AND I WERE ON A CALL LAST WEEK AND THERE WAS THIS REALLY, UH, GREAT GRAPHIC THAT I GRABBED A SCREEN GRAB UP THAT I THOUGHT I WANTED TO JUST SHARE TONIGHT BECAUSE IT SHOWS IT'S FROM PEW RESEARCH, OBVIOUSLY A VERY REPUTABLE RESEARCH FIRM. AND WHAT IT SHOWS IS THAT THE PLACES THAT BUILD HOUSING COMPRESS RENTS, THE PLACES AND THE UNITED STATES OVERALL HAS NOT. AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE RESULT IS. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BUILDING HOUSING, [04:15:01] THAT'S WHY IS BECAUSE THE PATHWAY TO AFFORDABILITY IS THROUGH SUPPLY. IF WE GRADUATE COUNCIL MEMBER NOW AND COUNCIL MEMBER Cader Thompson DID AN OP-ED ON THIS, WE GRADUATE 700 SENIORS A YEAR AND WE BUILD CLO ROUGHLY A HUNDRED HOMES. THE MATH DOESN'T WORK OUT FOLKS. WE'VE GOTTA BUILD HOUSING. WHERE THAT HOUSING GOES WHEN WE CAN'T GO OUT, UM, IS REALLY THE QUESTION. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE FOR HERE. UM, AND SO THAT IS FUNDAMENTALLY WHY I SUPPORT THIS PLAN AS IT'S WRITTEN. I THINK IT DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB OF TRYING TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC AREAS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND BUILD, BUILD CHARACTER IN COMMUNITY WHERE MAYBE THERE ISN'T SOME. UM, AND ALSO RETAIN THE CHARACTER IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE WE HAVE IT. AND SO, UM, WITH THAT, I THINK, UM, I'M WILLING TO ACCEPT ALL THE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT STAFF BROUGHT FORWARD. IF THERE'S OTHERS THAT CAME UP AS A RESULT OF THE UM, OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN THOSE. BUT, UM, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PLAN. I THINK IT'S A WATERSHED MOMENT FOR OUR CITY AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SUPPORTING IT. UH, GREAT POINT. AND UM, WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO REMIND STAFF, I MEAN OR HAVE STAFF REMIND US THERE ARE DECISION POINTS WE'RE GONNA REVISIT SORT OF AFTER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS HERE, UM, TO GATHER WHETHER ANY OF THE RECOMMENDATION, WHICH OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ADOPTED OR NOT ADOPTED IN TONIGHT'S, UH, CONVERSATION. AND, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MCAT THOMPSON, YOU, I THINK I'M JUST GONNA SPEAK ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M MOST INTERESTED IN, UM, AFTERWARDS, LIKE WITH MR. SHOTWELL WHEN HE WAS SPEAKING, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT HE UNDERSTANDS THAT IF THE OTHER ACTUALLY GIVES MORE FLEXIBILITY. AND SAME WITH, UM, JOHN'S DAIRY SUPPLY AND UM, JANE BILL'S. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT IT GIVES THEM MORE FLEXIBILITY AND THEN A MIXED USE, A MIXED USE IS MORE PROBLEMATIC. MAYOR. UM, SO I DID HAVE A FEW NOTES AS FOLLOW UP TO THAT. SO JOHNS DAIRY AND POOL SUPPLY WE HAVE LOOKED AT AND WE BELIEVE THAT THERE, IT DOES NOT BECOME A NON-CONFORMING USE. IT IS A PERMITTED USE UNDER THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE THAT IS PROPOSED ON THE EAST SIDE. SO WE DO NOT THINK IT IS CREATING ANY, UM, NON-CONFORMITY OR ISSUE WITH, UM, MAINTAINING THAT USE IN PERPETUITY AS IT'S PROPOSED. IS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE THE SAME? CAN I, CAN I ASK? YEAH. AND, AND, UH, DIRECTOR O HAD MENTIONED, UH, SOMETHING ON LETTERHEAD AND ARE WE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT AS DIRECT COMMENT ON LETTERHEAD? SURE. OKAY. UM, SIMILARLY, UH, JAY AND BILL'S TIRE, UM, WE ALSO, THAT IS ONE IS PROPOSED FOR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE. WE HAVE LOOKED AT THAT IN TERMS OF THE DRAFT FOR THAT ZONING DISTRICT. THAT IS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, NO ISSUE THERE. IT WOULD BE A, A PERMITTED USE. SO THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH SELLING IT IN THE FUTURE OR LEASING IT TO A DIFFERENT OPERATOR. UM, O OBVIOUSLY ANY, UM, ANY, UM, CHANGE IN USE? SO THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT CAN I LEASE IT TO ANOTHER TENANT? OBVIOUSLY ANY TENANT THAT WOULD BE A NEW USE NEEDS TO FOLLOW ONE OF THE ALLOWABLE USES UNDER THE, THE ZONING. UM, THE SHOTWELL PROPERTY IS, UM, AT AS MIXED USE. THAT USE, WE DO NOT BELIEVE WOULD BE AN ALLOWED USE. SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONE THAT I, I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO PULL THE MAKER MICRO BUSINESS DOWN TO THAT PROPERTY THAT THE SHOT WHEEL, UM, IS ON, ON CENTER BAR, WHICH THE MAKER MICRO BUSINESS THEN WOULD ALLOW THE AUTOMOBILE, THE COLLISION REPAIR, UM, USE AS A ALLOWABLE USE. THANK YOU. ANY, ANYTHING? I HAVE ONE MORE, SORRY. UM, TED CABRAL ON HIS PROPERTY. SO, BUT IF, IF THE BUILDING WAS TORN DOWN, HE COULD NOT BUILD THE THIS ON THE SAME FOOTPRINT, IS THAT CORRECT? SO I, I JUST WANNA KNOW IF, IF HE HAS A PROPOSAL FOR THE EV HOW WOULD THAT WORK ON HIS PROPERTY? ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD HAPPEN ON THAT SITE DOES NEED TO COMPLY WITH THE BASE ZONING, UM, AND, AND LAND USE DESIGNATION. SO THE RIVER BUFFER IS MORE AKIN TO A OVERLAY THAN, FOR INSTANCE, FLOODWAY IS A ZONE, IS [04:20:01] A DESIGNATION, IS A ZONE. THE RIVER BUFFER DOESN'T ACT IN THE SAME WAY. IT APPLIES OVER WHATEVER YOUR BASE DESIGNATION AND ZONING. SO ANYTHING THAT IS, UM, PROPOSED THERE WOULD NEED TO MEET THE DEVELOPMENT, THE LAND USE, AND THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE, THE ZONING, THE APPLICABLE ZONING. UM, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, FOR THE VACANT AREA THAT IS COVERED BY THE RIVER BUFFER, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT CITY STAFF WOULD WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO FIND THE BEST SOLUTION FOR ALLOWING, UM, USE OF THE PROPERTY AND DOING EVERYTHING FEASIBLE TO AVOID OR LESSEN THE IMPACT WITHIN THE RIVER BUFFER. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE RIVER BUFFER ISN'T JUST BASED ON FLOOD. THIS WAS BASED ON A META STUDY THAT WAS DONE, UM, THAT LOOKED AT, UM, APPROPRIATE BUFFERS BASED ON THE, UM, OBJECTIVE OF THE BUFFERS. AND SO THE 330 WAS BASED ON PER, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY, UM, RIPARIAN CORRIDOR AND, UM, UM, HABITAT PROTECTION. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE 330, SO IT IS BASED ON A META STUDY THAT WAS DONE, UM, FOR THOSE PURPOSES. SO IT'S NOT JUST BASED ON FLOOD MODELING, UM, OR FEMA MAPPING. IT IS BASED ON TRYING TO LIMIT THE FURTHER ENCROACHMENT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT INTO A BUFFER ALONG THE RIVER IN ORDER TO PRESERVE IT, WHICH HAS BEEN A, A, A OBJECTIVE OF THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY. WELL, JUST TO ADD TO THAT ALSO, UM, SO HEATHER MENTIONS THE BASE ZONING DESIGNATION. SO THIS IS COMMERCIAL. UM, AND I, I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF WHAT, UM, TED IS PROPOSING WITH THIS EV CHARGER OUTSIDE OF JUST THE CONCEPT CURRENTLY. SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU CONSIDER THIS EVENING, IF HE WERE TO HAVE SUBMITTED THAT PROJECT YESTERDAY, UM, THE ZONING FOR COMMERCIAL, UM, WOULDN'T ALLOW FOR THAT USE. WE'D HAVE TO RECONSIDER. SO THE COUNCIL HAS THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, WHEN THE ZONING CODE COMES FORWARD, WHEN PLANNING COMMISSION SEES THAT CURRENTLY HOW, HOW THE CODE IS WRITTEN, UH, EV CHARGING STATION IS SUPPOSED TO BE SECONDARY OR ANCILLARY. SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, WE HAVE COMMERCIAL ZONE PROPERTY ALL OVER TOWN. UM, AND SO ONE THING, A POLICY THAT, UH, BOTH PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL WILL WANT TO GRAPPLE WITH IS, UM, ARE WE OKAY WITH USING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY FOR EV CHARGING SOLELY? UM, AND SO AS IT STANDS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU DO THIS EVENING, WITHOUT KNOWING MORE DETAIL, UM, I BELIEVE THE PROJECT COULD NOT MOVE FORWARD, UM, WITHOUT A, UH, CONSIDERATION OF A ZONE CHANGE ESSENTIALLY, UM, TO GO FROM AN ACCESSORY USE. SO YOU SEE AT TARGET, YOU HAVE THE TESLA, YOU KNOW, CHARGING STATION. UM, THAT'S SECONDARY, RIGHT? IT'S A SMALL COMPONENT TO THE LARGER COMMERCIAL. UM, AND THAT'S TYPICALLY HOW WE SEE EV CHARGING STATIONS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN TO SAY, UH, WE MAY NOT WANT TO CONSIDER THAT, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO BE MINDFUL OF, UM, AS PROPOSED. IF IT'S FULLY EV CHARGING, UM, THAT WOULDN'T BE, UM, THAT'D HAVE TO BE, UM, SOME SORT OF ZONE CHANGE. HE ALSO MENTIONED THE, UH, RIVER ACCESS, I BELIEVE, UM, THAT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT ANYWAYS ALONG THE RIVER. UM, PER, I THINK SINCE THE NINETIES WE'VE HAD THAT RULE IN PLACE, ANYTIME SOMETHING REDEVELOPS ALONG THE RIVER, UH, THERE'S, UH, PUBLIC ACCESS, UM, THAT GETS INCORPORATED TO ANY FUTURE PROJECT. UM, SO AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING MORE ABOUT IT. UM, WE'VE WORKED ON A NUMBER, UM, OF IDEAS, UM, AND SO IT'S, IT'S TOP OF MIND. SO I SUSPECT, UM, AS WE, UM, WORK THROUGH THE ZONING CODE, UM, WE WANT TO BALANCE EVERYTHING, ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, CONTEMPLATED FOR THAT SITE. I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, IF YOU CAN BRING UP THE, UM, PAPERWORK FOR THE AUTO MALL, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. IT WAS ALMOST AS THOUGH HIS PROPERTY WAS NOT DOWN ZONE, BUT IT, IT WASN'T ZONED ACCORDINGLY. LIKE HE CAN'T HAVE AN RV REPAIR SHOP. THERE IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT MAY NOT BE AN ALLOWABLE USE. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT HE HAS MORE ALLOWABLE USES THAN WHAT WAS RESTRICT RESTRICTED WHEN THE AUTO MALL WENT IN [04:25:01] AND ALL THAT, UM, AGREEMENT WAS DONE. WE, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT, UM, SO THE AUTO MALL HAS LIKELY HAS A, A PLANNED, UH, PCD, SO A PLANNED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, A MASTER PLAN, A SET OF, UH, PERMITTED USES. UM, SO WE WOULD DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE THAT PREPARED AS PART OF THE ZONING CODE. UM, BUT REALLY THE THING THAT WOULD BE MOST HELPFUL IS, UM, WRESTLING WITH THE, UM, COMMERCIAL ZONING DESIGNATION AND THE ALLOWABLE USES. ARE THEY PERMITTED? ARE THEY A, UM, USE PERMIT? UM, SHOULD IT REMAIN SECONDARY? CAN IT BE A PRIMARY? THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'LL BE WORKING ON. AND THEN IN 24 HOURS FROM NOW, THANK YOU VICE MAYOR. SO I'VE GOT SEVERAL THINGS I WANNA TALK ABOUT IN REGARD TO THE GENERAL PLAN. UM, BUT I'M GONNA START WITH THE EIGHT STORY. AND YOU KNOW, I, I ALREADY SAID IT IN MY QUESTIONS EARLIER, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING THIS HAPPEN IN, IN OTHER CITIES. IT'S HAPPENED IN NOVATO, IT'S SAN RAFAEL'S BEEN THE EXAMPLE OF 17 AND 24 STORY BUILDINGS. UM, IT, IT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE TALL BUILDINGS UP HERE. YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A VERY REAL SCENARIO. AND I WANNA ADDRESS SOME OTHER COUNCIL COMMENTS ABOUT DENSITY. UH, DENSITY IS NOT THE ISSUE AROUND THIS EIGHT STORY BUILDING. THAT'S KIND OF JUST A DISTRACTING ARGUMENT. THE ISSUE IS THAT PETALUMA DO NOT WANT THIS BUILDING, WHETHER IT BE 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 STORIES TALL. WE DON'T WANT IT. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY THAT BEFORE IT SINKS INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S HEADS. UH, WE DON'T HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY FOR HOW THAT'S GONNA IMPACT US. THIS WOULD BE THE TALLEST RESIDENTIAL BUILDING IN PETALUMA. I WOULD THINK EVERYBODY WOULD WANNA KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THINGS AND NOT WAIT UNTIL AN APPLICATION COMES IN TO FIGURE THAT OUT. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, WE'VE GOT OUR VIEW SHED AND SENSE OF PLACE TO CONSIDER AS WELL. PEOPLE MOVE TO PETALUMA BECAUSE THEY LOVE SEEING THE HILLS. THEY LOVE SEEING THE RIVER, THE IRON FRONTS, THE OLD DOWNTOWN, ALL THE OTHER NEAT BUILDINGS. WE HAVE THE GRAIN SILOS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THAT WOULD BE RUINED IF ALL OF A SUDDEN RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING OVER A HUNDRED FEET TALL. THAT'S JUST, UM, NOTHING BUT THE MOST MODERN PLAIN BUILDING YOU CAN IMAGINE. I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF CAN PULL UP IN THE BRIEFING BOOKLET ON PAGE 39. IT'S ALL THE EXAMPLES YOU INCLUDED OF WHAT AN EIGHT STORY BUILDING WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN DO THAT, HEATHER, AND SEE IF YOU CAN FIND THAT WHILE I'M SPEAKING. BUT, UM, AND THEN THERE'S, SO THERE'S SENSE OF PLACE TO CONSIDER AS WELL. YOU KNOW, WHEREVER YOU ARE IN PETALUMA, YOU WANNA KNOW THAT YOU'RE IN PETALUMA, NOT SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD LIKELY BE BUILT HERE, AGAIN, IS A BIG BOXY MODERN BUILDING, AND WE DON'T HAVE VERY GOOD DESIGN STANDARDS HERE IN PETALUMA. SO UNTIL WE DEVELOP THOSE, WE SHOULDN'T EVEN BE CONSIDERING BIGGER BUILDINGS. AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S, THERE'S THE NO PARKING REQUIREMENT FROM THE STATE AND THE STATE LAWS AND HOW MANY UNITS ARE GONNA GO IN. YOU CAN'T LIVE IN A FICTITIOUS WORLD WHERE YOU SAY NOBODY'S GONNA HAVE CARS IN THE FUTURE. THEY WILL. THAT'S REALITY. AND, UH, WE, THAT WOULD JUST BE DEVASTATING TO THAT ENTIRE AREA. YOU KNOW, IT'S ALREADY SO HARD. WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE TALKED ABOUT CROSSTOWN CONNECTORS, BUT THOSE ARE SO EXPENSIVE AND WE'VE PRETTY MUCH BONDED OURSELVES OUT THIS YEAR IN, IN BONDS THAT HOW WOULD WE BUILD COALFIELD AT THIS POINT? IT WOULD BE NICE TO, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW. AND SO WITHOUT SOMETHING LIKE A CROSSTOWN CONNECTOR, WE COULDN'T EVEN BEGIN TO THINK OF HOW WE'RE GONNA ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA. AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, I I THINK THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED ENOUGH THAT I REALLY FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'LL PAUSE FOR A SECOND ON MY COMMENTS. I FEEL LIKE I'D LIKE US TO DO A STRAW POLL AND SEE HOW THE COUNCIL FEELS ABOUT EIGHT STORIES. I THINK IT'S A GOOD, UM, SUGGESTION TO, UM, HAVE THE COUNCIL WEIGH IN ON, ON THAT TOPIC. AND WE COULD EACH TAKE OUR TURN. UM, I MEAN, I THINK WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT PERSON AND LET THEM GO THROUGH THEIR COMMENTS AND GO THROUGH AND GO THROUGH SO THAT WE GET EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS ON, UM, ON EVERYTHING, INCLUDING EIGHT STORIES. WELL, THEY COULD STILL MAKE THEIR COMMENTS ON IT, BUT I MEAN, WE COULD PAUSE FOR A MOMENT AND JUST TAKE A FEW SECONDS AND DO A STRAW POLL. IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEED YOUR TIME TO THE NEXT PERSON, I'LL ASK FOR THEIR COMMENTS IN TOTAL. WE CAN WAIT TO DO IT THEN, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO DO A STRAW POLL TONIGHT ON THAT. I LIKE THE IDEA. SO, AND IF YOU GO BACK INTO THE BRIEFING BOOKLET, IT ALSO SAYS THAT PARTICIPANTS IN THE GPAC SURVEYS, THEY WANTED FOUR STORIES. SO [04:30:01] IT'S, IT'S IN THERE THAT FOUR STORIES WAS MORE DESIRABLE AROUND THAT AREA. YOU KNOW, AND I'VE, I'VE, UH, DISCUSSED IT BEFORE, BUT WE SHOULD BE TAKING EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE CAN WITH THE GENERAL PLAN TO PROTECT OURSELVES FROM DENSITY, BONUS LAWS AND OTHER STATE LAWS THAT ALLOW FOR BUILDINGS THAT WE CANNOT CONTROL. IN THIS CASE, IF SIX WAS THE DESIRED AMOUNT, WE NEED TO GO TO A LESSER HEIGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT SIX STORIES COULD BE HIT, UM, THROUGH THOSE DENSITY LAWS. WE, THAT'S HOW WE PROTECT OURSELVES AS WE LOWER THE BAR AND KNOWING WHAT, WHAT STATE LAWS CAN DO TO US. SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO WRITE IN AND SAY THAT THEY DON'T WANT EIGHT PLUS STORY BUILDINGS IN DOWNTOWN BEFORE THE COUNCIL LISTENS TO THEM. AND THE DECISIONS TO ADD EIGHT STORIES, I'LL REMIND EVERYBODY WAS SLIPPED IN ALMOST FOUR HOURS INTO A MEETING RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS WHERE NOBODY ON THE PUBLIC SIDE WAS WORRIED ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENING. AND I STAND BY MY WORDS AT THAT MEETING WHERE I SAID THIS WAS A VERY UNETHICAL THING TO DO, ALONG WITH SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WERE DONE. YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE UP FOR ELECTION RIGHT NOW, GO AROUND AND START CAMPAIGNING AT EVERY DOOR THAT YOU WANNA SEE EIGHT STORIES AND THAT YOU VOTED FOR IT. BUT YOU WON'T DO THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU GET VOTED OUTTA OFFICE RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE PETAL LIMITS DON'T WANT THAT. SO NOW I'LL GO ON TO REZONING BUSINESSES. BACK IN MAY, I BROUGHT UP TO COUNCIL AND STAFF AND I SAID, HEY, WE'RE REZONING ALL THESE BUSINESSES TO NEW DESIGNATIONS THAT WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. AND THAT WAS THE OPPORTUNITY. STAFF SHOULD HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS AND DONE BETTER OUTREACH. BUT THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY THEN FOR STAFF TO REACH OUT AND SPEAK TO THESE BUSINESSES AND SAY, IS THIS OKAY WITH YOU? OR SAY, THIS IS WHAT THIS IS, OR, OR AT LEAST BRING THEM TO THE TABLE AND MAKE THEM PART OF THE CONVERSATION. BECAUSE IF THEY HADN'T FOUND OUT THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING, IT WOULD'VE ALL JUST HAPPENED. AND LIKE WE JUST UNCOVERED, AND I'M GLAD YOU DID SHOTWELL, BUT WOULD'VE BEEN ILLEGAL, NON-CONFORMING USE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DID SOME BACKGROUND RESEARCH, AND I'LL PULL IT UP HERE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A, UM, AN OLD LAND USE BOOK OUT THERE. AND IT QUOTES SOMETHING FROM THE CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT, AND THEY LAID DOWN THE FOLLOWING RULE SAID, CALIFORNIA CASES HAVE FIRMLY DECLARED THAT ZONING LEGISLATION MAY VALIDLY PROVIDE FOR THE EVENTUAL TERMINATION OF NON-CONFORMING USES WITHOUT COMPENSATION IF IT PROVIDES A REASONABLE AMORTIZATION PERIOD COMMENSURATE WITH THE INVESTMENT INVOLVED. SO THOUGH WE MAY TODAY NEVER DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS A CITY, THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT COULDN'T HAPPEN TO THESE BUSINESSES IN THE FUTURE. WHY WOULD WE DO SOMETHING THAT MAKES ANYBODY VULNERABLE? WE SHOULD BE PROTECTING ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES. AND, AND THAT'S THE DIRECTION I THOUGHT WE WERE ALL GOING IN THIS YEAR WHEN WE SAID, WE'RE GONNA MAKE PERMITTING EASIER, WE'RE GONNA DO MORE OUTREACH TO BUSINESSES. AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT'S HAPPENING. SO I THINK NOW IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH ALL OF THOSE BUSINESSES, EVERYBODY THAT WAS REZONED, AND SEE IF THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT THEY WANT. 'CAUSE THAT'S THEIR PROPERTIES, THAT'S THEIR LIVELIHOOD, THAT'S THEIR FUTURE, THAT'S THEIR RETIREMENT. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SHOULD BE MAKING THAT DECISION EXCEPT THEM. SO I'M GLAD THAT THE BUSINESSES CAME AND STUCK IT OUT TONIGHT AND SMOKE SPOKE ABOUT ALL THIS AND VOICED THEIR CONCERNS. AND I WANNA SEE THAT STAFF MEET WITH THEM AND DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR PROPERTIES. AND I WANNA MAKE SURE TOO, THAT MAKER MICRO AND NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE ARE FULLY DEFINED BEFORE ANY DECISIONS ARE MADE. YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER THING IS NOBODY CAN SAY WITH ANY CONFIDENCE WHAT THE FUTURE OF THESE PROPERTIES WILL BE UNTIL THAT'S DONE. EVERYTHING ELSE UNTIL THEN IS WISHFUL THINKING. SO I ALSO WANT TO SEE, I I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO BE PASSING THE GENERAL PLAN TONIGHT WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THESE NEW LAND USE DESIGNATIONS AND ACTUALLY DEFINING THEM IN PLACES WHERE WE'VE MADE CHANGES. I KIND OF JUST SAID THAT ALREADY, BUT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT BECAUSE ALL WE HAVE IS SOME LOOSE FRAMEWORK, FRAMEWORK AROUND WHAT THEY ARE. WE DON'T HAVE THEM FULLY DEFINED. I DO FEEL THAT MAKER MICRO SHOULD BE REMOVED. I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT EVEN CAME INTO EXISTENCE IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT'S BASICALLY BUSINESS PARK. I DON'T WANNA [04:35:01] SEE, I DON'T WANNA SEE FLEX. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED AS WELL. YOU KNOW, FOR YEARS WE'VE BEEN CONSIDERING PROPERTIES THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED FLEX ZONING, AND THERE ARE NO FLEX ZONE PROPERTIES, NONE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED. WE CONSIDERED SOME, THE COUNCIL SAID NO. AND SO I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR US TO KEEP THAT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY FLEX, SO WE SHOULD BE REMOVING THAT RIGHT NOW. THE RIVER DEPENDENT INDUSTRIAL PARCELS ALONG THE RIVER, I THINK THOSE NEED TO RETAIN THEIR ZONING. WE SHOULD NOT BE CONVERTING THOSE TO HOUSING. OUR RIVER IS SUCH A VALUABLE RESOURCE. YOU KNOW, MOST TOWNS AND CITIES DO NOT HAVE THAT. AND SO WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY THAT MOST DON'T TO PROMOTE RIVER INDUSTRY AND BRING THAT TO PETALUMA, HELP CREATE JOBS, HELP USE OUR RIVER, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE BEST USE OF OUR RIVER. AND WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IS, IS YOU CAN LOOK AT FREIGHT TRAFFIC ON RIVER THAT TAKES AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF VEHICLES OFF THE ROAD. THAT DOES A LOT FOR OUR CLIMATE RIGHT THERE. THAT'S GONNA DO A LOT MORE THAN STICKING A BUNCH OF APARTMENTS ON THOSE PROPERTIES. THEN, YOU KNOW, I I, IN THE TRANSPORTATION SECTION, YOU'VE GOT THE A TP, THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. THAT'S ANOTHER THING PETALUMA DIDN'T ASK FOR THAT WAS A SMALL GROUP THAT PUSHED THAT. AND EVERYBODY'S REALLY UPSET ABOUT ROADS AROUND TOWN, THE ROUNDABOUTS D STREET, YOU KNOW, MCDOWELL WITH THE GREEN BOLLARDS ALL ALONG IT. PETALUMA DIDN'T ASK FOR THAT, AND THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR THE A TP THAT GOT PLAS PASSED LAST YEAR. SO I DON'T LIKE THAT THAT'S IN THIS PLAN. THEN, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO MY QUESTIONS, I DO WANNA SEE THE ALTERNATIVE CONSIDERED IN THE EIR TO PASS THIS GENERAL PLAN AS IS WITH EVERYTHING WE'VE ADDED TO THE GENERAL PLAN IN COMBINATION WITH KEEPING BUILDING HEIGHT AND DENSITY WHERE THEY'RE AT. I THINK THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE MISSED THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER BECAUSE WE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, IT IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE JUST WELL ENOUGH OFF THE WAY THAT THINGS ARE INSTEAD OF THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING BECAUSE AS WAS MENTIONED, YOU, YOU LOOK AT OUR HOUSING NUMBERS AND WITH THIS NEW GENERAL PLAN, WE'RE SITTING AT THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT THAT ARE REQUIRED. SO WHY ARE WE MAKING ALL OF THESE BIG CHANGES? THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. SO I WOULD LIKE TO, AFTER THE OTHERS HAVE SPOKEN, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO WAIT TO DO THAT TO HEAR EVERYBODY ELSE FIRST. SURE, SURE. COUNCIL MEMBER BURNELL. ANY THOUGHTS? UM, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UM, 20 YEARS AGO I SAT AT THIS VERY DEUS AND APPROVED OUR CURRENT GENERAL PLAN. I'M GONNA BE THE ONLY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S BEEN, UM, ON TWO GENERAL PLANS. UH, I DID HAVE 20 YEARS IN BETWEEN, UM, BEING ON THE COUNCIL, BUT I AM SEEING NOW IN 2026, A BETTER GENERAL PLAN FOR OUR FUTURE. WE HAVE NUMEROUS STAFF, NUMEROUS COUNCIL MEMBERS, NUMEROUS HOURS BY THE PUBLIC, GIVING US INPUT, THE VARIOUS, UM, VOLUNTEERS THAT WERE ON OUR BOARDS. AND I WANNA THANK THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AND THE GAC FOR GIVING THEIR INPUT AND LISTENING TO THE, TO THE PUBLIC. UM, THE LOOKING FORWARD, THE GENERAL PLAN IS A, UM, A PLAN. IT'S JUST THE VISION FOR 20 YEARS FROM NOW, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. AND IT WILL TAKE US INTO THE FUTURE WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE SAFER ROADS FOR MY GRANDCHILDREN TO RIDE BIKES. I AM NOT GONNA BE RIDING BIKES. I AM GONNA BE USING THAT PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION MAYBE BECAUSE MAYBE I WON'T BE ABLE TO DRIVE. I DON'T KNOW. I WANT AGE IN PETALUMA. I WANNA GET OLD IN PETALUMA. I WANT TO FREE UP MY HOME SO SOME FAMILY CAN MOVE INTO IT AND HAVE IT AS A STARTER HOME. I WANT TO SEE FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS BUY SMALLER HOMES AND THEN WORK THEIR WAY UP TO A LARGER HOME. THE SIZE OF THE ONE I HAVE THAT I BOUGHT 40 YEARS AGO. I WANT TO LOOK AT THE FUTURE. I WANT TO SEE JOBS. UM, AND LIKE I MENTIONED, THE HOMES FOR MY SEVEN GRANDKIDS [04:40:01] WHO HOPEFULLY WILL GO OFF TO COLLEGE AND THEN COME BACK AND FIND JOBS AND HOMES AND SIGNIFICANT OTHERS AND MAKE THEIR FUTURE HERE JUST LIKE THEIR PARENTS. UM, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THE FRIENDS THAT I HAVE THAT ARE AGING IN PETALUMA AND THEY'RE COMPLAINING THAT THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THEM TO LIVE. THEY DON'T WANT A BIG HOUSE. THEY CAN'T GET INTO PEP HOUSING. THE WAITING LIST FOR PEP HOUSING IS SIX TO SEVEN YEARS. AND I THINK SOMEONE SAID THEY MAY NOT BE HERE WHEN THAT, WHEN THEIR NAME GETS TO THE TOP. WE JUST HAD A GROUNDBREAKING ON A NEW SENIOR LIVING. IT'S ALREADY 50% FULL AND IT'S NOT EVEN GONNA BE READY FOR TWO MORE YEARS. SO I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER FOUR STORIES. I DO NOT LIKE MORE THAN SIX STORIES AT ALL. BUT WHAT IF THOSE WERE APARTMENTS FOR MY FRIENDS WHO WANT TO AGE IN PETALUMA, OR MY GRANDKIDS WHO WANT TO TAKE THE SMART TRAIN TO THE JUNIOR COLLEGE LIKE THEIR PARENTS DID WHEN THEY MOVED OUT OF OUR HOME AND MOVED INTO EDEN HOUSING AND TOOK THE BUS AND WORKED DOWNTOWN. SO I HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN 20 YEARS WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA. SO NOW WE HAVE THIS SOCIAL MEDIA. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT AI WAS. NOW WE HAVE THAT. I MEAN, WE KNEW WHAT ET WAS. HE WAS FROM A MOVIE. IT WAS A CHARACTER IN A MOVIE. WE DIDN'T THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, SCI-FI IN 2026, UM, THE CROSSTOWN CONNECTOR RAINIER, 20 YEARS AGO THAT WAS, WAS VOTED IN BY THE VOTERS MORE THAN ONCE. IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. I HAVE TO FACE THAT REALITY. WE DO NEED A CROSSTOWN CONNECTOR. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR IT IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS. WE NEED TO EASE UP THE CONGESTION ON WASHINGTON STREET AND D STREET BECAUSE CARS ARE NOT GONNA GO AWAY. THERE'S STILL GONNA BE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO DRIVE THEIR GRANDKIDS. AND I HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT CAR, CAR SEATS IN MY CAR BECAUSE I HAVE TO PICK THEM UP AND DROP 'EM OFF AT SPORTS AND SCHOOLS. BUT THERE'S OTHER FAMILIES THAT NEED TO HAVE THEIR CARS. CARS AREN'T GOING TO AWAY, BUT WE DO NEED TO EASE UP THE TRAFFIC AND WE NEED TO MAKE A CROSSTOWN CONNECTOR A PRIORITY IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS. AND WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT OUR BUSINESSES. THE BUSINESSES THAT CAME TO SPEAK TONIGHT, I USE THOSE BUSINESSES. UM, IF YOU WANT THE BEST RUBBER BOOTS IN TOWN, YOU GO TO JERRY. JOHN IS DAIRY SUPPLY. AND IF YOU WANNA GET YOUR TICKETS TO THE DAIRY PRINCESS BALL, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GONNA GO. AND IF YOU NEED YOUR TIRES ON YOUR VEHICLE, I HAVE USED JN BILLS. I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT AT BRODY'S FOR MY TIRES TO BE ROTATED ON WEDNESDAY. AND, UM, I HOPE HE IS HAPPY WITH WHAT WE MAKE OUR DECISION TONIGHT, UM, BECAUSE I HAVE USED THOSE BUSINESSES OVER THE YEARS. AND I THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS LATE NIGHT. AND, UM, I'M VERY PROUD OF OUR GENERAL PLAN AND I LOOK FORWARD TO IT GETTING APPROVED TONIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBER QUINN. THANK YOU. UM, FIRST OF ALL, COUNCIL MEMBER, NOW I WANNA EXTEND MY GRATITUDE FOR BEING A CITY COUNCIL PERSON THAT HAS HAD TO SIT THROUGH TWO OF THESE . AND, UH, I ALSO REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. UM, I AGREED WITH EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID, UH, AND, UH, LIKE, UM, LIKE YOU, I WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF SPEAK TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT CAME IN HERE TONIGHT. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS WHO HAVEN'T BEEN COMING TO COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, UM, THIS IS, I THINK, THE MOST BUSINESS FRIENDLY COUNCIL THAT PETALUMA HAS HAD, UH, IN A VERY LONG TIME. AND AS WE'VE, UM, DELIBERATED ON THE GENERAL PLAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS THE, YOU KNOW, AD NAUSEUM IS THE IMPORTANCE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND MAKING IT EASIER TO DO BUSINESS IN PETALUMA. AND WE'VE SEEN STAFF MAKE PROGRESS ON THAT FRONT. ARE WE PERFECT? NO. ARE WE GETTING BETTER? I REALLY BELIEVE [04:45:01] WE ARE. UM, AND ANY OF THE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, ZONING CHANGES AFFECTING THE LONG-TERM VIABILITY OF THEIR BUSINESSES, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, THOSE NEED, LIKE THOSE CONCERNS NEED TO BE ASSUAGED. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT WE ARE, UM, THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THIS, IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND, UM, AND THAT WE, YOU KNOW, TAKE CARE OF THOSE ISSUES. UM, YOU KNOW, I WANNA ADDRESS, I I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND ADDRESS THIS IDEA OF THE RIVERFRONT. SO I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN MANY THINGS, BUT I AM AN EXPERT IN SHIPPING. LIKE THAT'S WHAT I DO, RIGHT? UM, FREIGHT, MOVING FREIGHT AROUND THE WORLD, MOVING FREIGHT THROUGH THE UNITED STATES, THAT'S MY DAY JOB. THAT'S WHAT I DO. AND THERE'S A REASON WHY FREIGHT HASN'T MOVED ON THE PETALUMA RIVER IN 40 YEARS BECAUSE IT'S INEFFICIENT. AND THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT MIGHT TRAVEL ON A RIVER ARE NOT PRODUCED IN SONOMA COUNTY AND THEY'RE NOT COMING BACK. SO WE CAN, THE IDEA OF BLOCKING OUT THAT PROPERTY AND RESTRICTING IT FROM BUILDING HOMES THAT WE NEED, UM, I THINK IS A, PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT'S A MISTAKE. UM, I WANNA THANK ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED ON THIS PRO ON THIS PROJECT. I THINK IT'S, UH, I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S A MILESTONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, LOT THERE, THERE'S BEEN A TON OF HARD WORK AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, COMMITTED TIME. AND SO EVERYONE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE THAT'S PUT THEIR SORT OF, THEIR BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS INTO IT, UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBER SHRIVES. OKAY, I STARTED OFF, UH, BEFORE I WAS ON CITY COUNCIL, I WAS ON THE, UH, THE GPAC UH, COMMITTEE FOR TWO YEARS AND THEN GOT KICKED OFF 'CAUSE I GOT ON COUNCIL. UH, BUT I'VE BEEN TRACKING IT, GOING TO SOME OF THE MEETINGS AND FOLLOWING THE PROCESS ALL ALONG. UM, THIS IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. AND, UM, WE'RE AT A STAGE WITHOUT WHERE IT'S OKAY. WE, WE, WE, WE'VE GOTTA DO IT AS ONE OF MY GOALS IN COUNCIL WAS TO, TO GET TO THIS POINT OF GETTING IT THROUGH. UM, SO, UM, THE BENEFITS I SEE OF THE GENERAL PLAN IS WHAT I MENTIONED A LITTLE EARLIER ABOUT ADAPTIVE MANAGEMENT, ADAPTIVE STRATEGY, AND, UM, BASICALLY DOING WHAT YOU NEED TO DO NOW, BUT ALSO BEING ABLE TO ALLOW YOURSELF TO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IN THE FUTURE TO MAKE THINGS WORK. SO THAT'S ALL ABOUT FLEXIBILITY AND ADAPTATION TO MAKE THINGS WORK. AND THE GENERAL PLAN BEING DIGITAL NOW, THAT'S THE PLAN. UM, AND FLEXIBLE AND ADAPTIVE. UM, IT'S GOING TO, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHIFT AND CHANGE WITH WHATEVER'S COMING AT US. 'CAUSE WE HAVE GOT LOTS OF STUFF COMING AT US. WE HAVE, UH, ALL THE, THE HAZARDS AS WELL AS POSSIBLE. GLOBAL ECONOMY COLLAPSE, WHATEVER. UH, WE HAVE EL NINO COMING AT US. WE HAVE MAYBE A POSSIBLE EARTHQUAKE THAT TAKES OUT 50% OF OUR POPULATION. WE HAVE ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN. UH, SO, UM, WE NEED TO BE FLEXIBLE AND ADAPTIVE AS IT COMES UP. THIS IS, OVERALL IT'S 99% A REALLY GOOD PLAN. I THINK WE, WE'VE REALLY ACHIEVED THAT. UM, THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT WE COULD TWEAK BETTER. UM, I THINK THE, THE BIOLOGICAL STUDIES AND RESOURCES, UH, COULD HAVE BEEN IMPROVED. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE PROMISE THAT, THAT OUR STAFF WILL REACH OUT TO SUSAN KIRKS AND, AND GET HER MAPS OF THE SIX CORRIDORS AND, AND HAVE THAT AS AT LEAST AN ASSET, AS A, UH, ADDENDUM TO, TO OUR RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE IT IN HAND. AND IF WE NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE, UH, HOW IT WAS DEVELOPED AT THIS TIME, I'M NOT GOING TO STOP ANYTHING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT. I THINK WE NEED, BASICALLY, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN-HOUSE AND, AND, UH, REALLY REVIEW IT. WELL, BUT I'M NOT GONNA STOP THE, UH, MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT IT AT THIS POINT, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO GET IT. SO I, I'M ASKING FOR A REACH OUT TO DO THAT. UM, AS FAR AS THE, UH, FLOOD ZONES DEVELOPS, I THINK WE HAVE SOME A, UH, ADAPTABILITY FLEXIBILITY THAT WE CAN PROBABLY WORK WITH ALL THE, UM, DEVELOP THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. CURRENT BUSINESSES THAT ARE HERE, AND, UH, WE'VE REACHED OUT TO A LOT, BUT HEY, WE JUST ALWAYS MOVE ON THAT. [04:50:01] SO I THINK, I THINK WE'RE FLEXIBLE ENOUGH THERE. UM, THE SELL THE BUSINESSES ON THE EV CHARGING STATIONS IS NOT, DON'T BE RIDICULOUS. IT'S ABSOLUTELY COMMERCIAL. IT'S SELLING. WE SELL GAS, THAT'S COMMERCIAL. WE SELL ELECTRICITY. THAT'S COMMERCIAL. UH, WE'RE GONNA BE SELLING IN JAPAN. THEY, THEY HAVE, UH, THEY DON'T SELL A STATION, A PLUGIN. THEY SHOW YOU THE WHOLE BATTERY. HOW COME LIFT UP THIS BATTERY, PUT IT, SWAP OUT YOUR BATTERY AND GO. UM, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS COMING. ALL SORTS OF TECHNOLO NEW THINGS GOING ON. SO EV CHARGING STATION IS, IS ABSOLUTELY A, A COMMERCIAL SELLING OF ELECTRICITY. SO, UM, THAT WE THINK OF IT AS, OH, IT'S JUST A LITTLE THING ON THE SIDE HERE FOR FREEBIE AS A SERVICE ON THE SIDE THAT YOU CAN DO. UM, THAT'S A RIDICULOUS CONCEPT AT THIS POINT IN TIME. UM, THE, WE REALLY DON'T EVEN, UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A FOOD TRUCK POLICY SEVERAL TIMES NOW OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS. IT'S NOT IN THE GENERAL PLAN ANYWHERE. IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE. UM, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE HAVE TO REALLY ESTABLISH, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY PART OF OUR GENERAL PLAN. UM, BUT THAT'S NOT EVEN ONE OF OUR CATEGORIES OF BUSINESSES. WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT WHERE DOES IT FIT IN? WHAT, WHAT CATEGORY IS THAT? IS THAT A MIXED USE? CAN YOU HAVE A FOOD TRUCKS IN YOUR MIXED USE AREA? UM, SO HAVING A, A POLICY AROUND THE FOOD TRUCKS, WE NEED TO DEVELOP THAT. MAYBE NOT PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN, BUT WE NEED THAT, THAT'S A MISSING THING HERE. AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DEVELOPING OUR, OUR FOOD TRUCK BUSINESSES HERE IN TOWN, BUT IT'S NOT INCLUDING ANY BUSINESS MODEL IN THE GENERAL PLAN. SO WE NEED TO WORK ON THAT. UM, BUT THE, UH, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO THE SIX VERSUS EIGHT STORIES, ONE OF THE THINGS I, I'VE GOT REMINDED OF, UM, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE HOTEL DOWNTOWN, UH, FOUR VERSUS SIX, HEY, OUR LADDER TRUCK, OUR FIRE TRUCK, LADDER TRUCK CAN GET UP TO SIX STORIES, NOT EIGHT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER LITTLE FACTOR, SIX VERSUS EIGHT. OUR, OUR FIRE FOLKS CAN, CAN GET ON LADDER WITH A, WITH A HOSE AND, AND, AND ACTUALLY WORK ON A SIX STORY, NOT AN EIGHT STORY. SO THERE'S, THERE'S A POSSIBLE SAFETY FE FEATURE WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT THERE THAT DIDN'T EVEN, HASN'T EVEN COME UP YET. UM, WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, UH, ONE OF THE FIRST GENERAL PLAN MEETINGS WE HAD SEVERAL YEARS AGO AT THE FAIRGROUNDS, WE HAD ALL THESE POSTERS UP WITH ALL THESE POSSIBLE BUILDINGS AND BUILDINGS IN ALL THESE SPOTS. AND I WALKED AROUND AT THE END AND TOOK A LOOK AND TURNS OUT 80% OF THE DOTS WERE SAYING NO TO SIX STORIES. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. EIGHT, LIKE 80% OF THE DOTS. WELL TAKE FOUR STORIES, WE'LL EVEN TAKE FIVE, BUT, AH, NOT SIX, BUT WE'VE PASSED SIX. WE'VE WENT, SAID, OKAY, WE'LL GO WITH SIX. AND WE'VE, WE'VE PUSHED IT UP FROM FOUR TO FIVE. WE, AND, AND WE'VE GOT, OH, MOST OF THE FOLKS HAVE SAID, OKAY, WE CAN LIVE WITH THAT. AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE, WE'RE PUSHING IT. OKAY, WE'RE GONNA DO EIGHT NOW. UM, AND THEN GIVEN STATE LAWS AND, UM, AND LOOKING AT THAT, AND THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER, UH, STACKABLE, WHICH IS DIFFERENT NOW, 20, 22 AND 23, STACKABLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO IT CAN GO UP MUCH HIGHER. AND THAT'S COMING. IT'S NOT A MATTER OF, OH, IT HASN'T BEEN DONE, IT'S COMING. SO DO WE WANT TO HAVE THAT OR NOT? UM, AND I THINK OUR, UM, OUR CONSTITUENTS, UM, WHEN YOU REALLY TALK TO THEM, THE LARGE VOLUME THAT LOOK AT THE VOLUME OF, OF ISTS THAT WE GOT, UM, WE CHARACTER OF TOWN, A VIEW SHED, UM, IS, IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS. AND I THINK WE, WE AT THIS POINT REALLY NEED TO LISTEN AND SAY, OKAY, UM, WE CAN CHANGE IT LATER. OKAY? IF WE GET THE PROPOSALS AND GEE, IT'S SIX STORIES AT MARKET RATE, NOT AFFORDABLE, AT MARKET RATE, WE'LL SAY SIX STORY OR A STORIES. AND THEN WITH AFFORDABILITY, IT CAN EASILY GO UP TO 10 OR 11. BUT WITH A STACKABLE, IT CAN GO UP TO 12 PLUS IF YOU STACK IT UP ACCORDING TO STATE LAWS, WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN SAN RAFAEL. SO THESE THINGS CAN HAPPEN. UM, SO LEAVING IT AT SIX STILL LEAVES THE DOOR OPEN FOR AFFORDABLE TO EIGHT, UM, EVEN NINE AS A POSSIBILITY, 50% MORE. SO I, I THINK WE NEED TO PUT A, A, A CAP THERE AND REALLY APPEASE THE FOLKS HAVE ASKED US TO LISTEN, AND I THINK WE REALLY DO. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH ON ONE SPOT, WE'RE GONNA RAISE IT UP TO EIGHT STORIES, ONE SPOT. IT'S ONLY A COUPLE HOMES HOUSING FOR FOLKS. WHY ARE WE DOING THIS JUST, AND, AND MAKE A LARGE PART OF OUR POPULATION REALLY MAD AT US? I, I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT TO STEP OVERSTEP LIKE THAT. UM, IT MIGHT BE, THERE'S ALSOS REASONS WHY YOU MAY WANNA DO IT, BUT I'M, I'M NOT FOR GOING UP TO THE EIGHT, UH, EIGHT STORIES. I WANT TO ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THE FOLKS AND SAY, LET'S CAP IT AT SIX, BUT IT'LL BE ALLOWED IF IT'S AFFORDABLE. YEAH, OKAY, WE'LL, WE'LL ALLOW IT TO COME IN AT EIGHT, SO LET'S GO DO THAT. SO OVERALL, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT AND GET EVERYTHING PASSED, BUT I DO WANT A, A, IT SAYS THAT STRAW VOTE TO DEMONSTRATE WHERE WE'RE AT ON THAT. 'CAUSE THAT'S A CRITICAL FACTOR IN OUR CHARACTER OF OUR TOWN. AND DO WE WANT TO TURN INTO A [04:55:01] SMALL, I KNOW WE ARE A SMALL CITY, BUT DO WE WANNA LOOK LIKE A LARGER CITY OR DO WE WANT TO LOOK LIKE AND FEEL LIKE A STILL A AGRICULTURAL BASED TOWN? AND THAT'S, THAT'S A CRITICAL PHILOSOPHICAL THING. AND THE PEOPLE ARE TOLD US WE WANT TO MAINTAIN A CULTURE OF A S OF A SMALLER AG TOWN, EVEN IF WE'RE TURNING INTO A LARGER CITY. SO I THINK THIS IS A CRITICAL FACTOR IN, IN THAT, UM, UM, AND, AND FOR WE'RE DOING FOR POPULATION. SO THAT, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, JUST A COUPLE THOUGHTS. UM, ONE, UM, THANK YOU STAFF. THANK YOU GPAC. UM, THANK YOU. PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, I THINK WHAT WE'VE, WE'VE DONE HERE IS HAVE A, A, YOU KNOW, A VERY STRATEGIC, VERY LOCALIZED, UM, EFFORT AT CHANGING, UH, WHAT WE'RE GONNA SEE IN THE FUTURE. I MEAN, IT'S SURPRISING HOW LITTLE, UH, OF, OF THE TOWN IS IMPACTED AND, UM, SURPRISING HOW LITTLE, UH, CAU UH, CAUSE FOR RESOLUTION TONIGHT. THERE ACTUALLY WAS, I WAS GLAD TO HEAR THAT THE BUSINESSES, UH, WERE HERE AND THAT, UH, WE HAD AN ANSWER TO THEM. I AM DISAPPOINTED THAT THEY WERE HERE AFRAID, BUT, UM, BUT I THINK WE HAVE THOSE ANSWERS AND SUPPORT, UH, THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I THINK IT'S A VERY FIXABLE TONIGHT THING. UM, AND, UM, I'M GLAD WE'VE VISITED WITH THE FOLKS IN SAN RAFAEL. IT'S, IT'S MUCH BETTER TO SAY, YEAH, THEY, THEY HAVE TROUBLES AND WE KNOW WHY, AND WE ARE FIXING, SO WE DON'T HAVE THOSE TROUBLES. UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CERTAIN, CERTAINLY THAT, UH, LACK OF DENSITY THING THAT, UH, WAS BROUGHT UP WAS, IS SIGNIFICANT. AND THE OTHER THING THAT'S NOT BROUGHT UP DOWN THERE IS THAT THE, THE, THE VAST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, BUCKETS AND THEIRS, WHAT THE A MI IS DOWN THERE VERSUS UP HERE, THE A MI DOWN THERE IS ESSENTIALLY MARKET RATE FOR, FOR MOST PEOPLE. AND HENCE, THEY'RE QUITE WILLING TO BUILD THOSE KIND OF APARTMENTS THERE WHERE WE WOULD NEVER SEE THAT AT, AT THAT AFFORDABLE, UH, LEVEL. HERE IN SONOMA COUNTY, WE ARE THE HIGH RENT OF THE COUNTY, AND THE MEDIAN INCOME IS LOWER THAN THAN PETALUMA RENT. SO WE ARE THE ONES THAT DON'T SEE THE FILLING THE PROPERTIES HERE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH TRENDS OVER INTO ALL OUR HOUSING. AND, AND AGAIN, WE, WE HAVEN'T, UH, BUILT MANY HOUSES, UH, UH, IN THE LAST, UM, UM, 20 YEARS. WE HAVEN'T GROWN AS A POPULATION IN 20 YEARS, BUT WE'VE CHANGED SO VERY MUCH AS A DEMOGRAPHIC SAMPLE. UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE MUCH OLDER NOW THAN WE WERE BEFORE. OUR SCHOOL AGE POPULATION'S 25% LESS THAN IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO. UM, BUILDING OR NOT BUILDING HAS CONSEQUENCE AND, UH, ACTING TO LEAD WITH IT IS ONE CHOICE. ACTING TO NOT DO ANYTHING IS A DIFFERENT CHOICE AND BOTH HAVE CONSEQUENCES. SO I DO LIKE WHERE WE'VE LANDED ON ALL OF THE ISSUES. UM, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT, UM, HEIGHT IS NOT HEIGHT ALONE. HEIGHT IS COUPLED WITH AN FLOOR, FLOOR AREA RATIO, A FLOOR AREA RATIO. UM, ON, ON THE SMART PARCEL, ON THE EIGHT STORY PARCEL IS FIVE. THAT MEANS THE WHOLE OF THE PROPERTY COULD GET DEVELOPED AT FIVE, NOT EIGHT, FIVE. THAT'S WHAT A FLOOR AREA, UH, RATIO MEANS. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT ON THE WHOLE OF THE PROPERTY, IT'S JUST ON THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDINGS. SO YOU HAVE SIDEWALKS, YOU HAVE A TRANSECT STREET DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THINGS. YOU TAKE OUT 10, 20% OF THE OVERALL PROPERTY THERE. AND THEN YOU SAY THAT'S WHAT CAN BE FIVE STORIES EVERYWHERE, OR YOU CAN BE THREE STORIES, FIVE STORIES, EIGHT STORIES. YOU CAN TIER IT, MAKE IT INTERESTING, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS ALLOWED CREATIVITY AND OPPORTUNITY AND, AND WHAT WE FOUND TO TODAY IS THAT NOBODY'S BUILT ON THAT PROPERTY FOR, YOU KNOW, WAS FOR, SINCE IT WAS A RAIL YARD. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF WE SHOWED MORE WILLINGNESS TO ACCEPT CREATIVITY, WHAT IF WE LOOKED AT IT DIFFERENTLY? WOULD WE GET A DIFFERENT RESULT OR WOULD IT STILL NOT HAPPEN? AND I'M THINKING, TRYING IS BETTER THAN CONTINUING TO HAVE VACANT LOTS ALL OVER TOWN. UM, AND THAT IS, AGAIN, THE STRATEGIC PART. IT'S JUST THE ONE LOT WHERE WE ARE PUTTING A TOE IN THE WATER TO FIND OUT IF THAT'S THE SECRET THAT UNLOCKS SOME HOUSING IN PETALUMA. NOW WE HAD, I THINK, FOUR DIFFERENT AREAS, UH, THAT WE NEEDED TO GIVE STAFF FEEDBACK ON, OR WERE THERE. SO THE WINDS I HAVE LISTED ARE PUM BOULEVARD, NORTH AREA CENTER, BAR AREA, UM, THE FRIENDS, UM, THE GREENWAY AND I, MAYBE THAT WAS JUST THE THREE 30 BUFFER WAS JUST MORE OF A COMMENTARY. SO YOU HAVE THE EXHIBIT IN YOUR THAT, CAN YOU POP UP THE EXHIBIT? SURE. [05:00:02] THE, YEAH. UM, SO UNLESS THERE'S, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY OPPOSITION TO ANYTHING THAT'S IN THERE, I'M GONNA ASK POINT BLANK. OKAY. SO IF THERE'S OPPOSITION TO ANYTHING IN THERE, UM, WE WOULD NEED THAT FEEDBACK. UM, AND THEN I THINK THE ONE THING I HAD NOTED AS A POTENTIAL ADDITION TO THAT, JUST BASED ON LISTENING TO COMMENTS, UM, WAS PULLING THE MAKER MICRO, UM, TO CAPTURE THE SHOTWELL PROPERTY ON C BAR. UM, AND THEN ONE THING I JUST FOR SRI'S, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER SRI'S, THERE IS A POLICY ABOUT FOOD TRUCKS IN THE GENERAL PLAN. IT'S, UM, LAND USE POLICY 8.5, AND IT'S, AND IT DIRECTS FOR ESTABLISHING A REGULATORY FRAMEWORK FOR PERMITTING MOBILE VENDORS LIKE FOOD TRUCKS. SO SOMETHING YOU BROUGHT UP, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU KNEW WHAT WAS IN THERE. UM, SO THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE WHAT I HAVE THAT I'M KIND OF TRACKING ON, ON MY END. OKAY. SO LET ME, UM, THEN START, UH, STRAW POLLING QUESTIONS. SURE. AND THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE THE SHOT WELLS MAKE MICRO, AND, UM, I'M GONNA LOOK STRAW POLL ALL IS IN FAVOR OF ADDING SHOT WELLS INTO THE MAKER MICRO DESIGNATION. RAISE YOUR HAND. AND THAT'S, UM, SIX OF SEVEN. WHY ARE THE MAKING THAT THEIR DECISION? UH, IT'S A BENEFIT. IT ENHANCES THE, UM, BREADTH OF THEIR OPPORTUNITY. SO IT'S, UM, IF WE WERE REDUCING, WE WOULD ASK IF THEY WANTED TO REDUCE, BUT I THINK TO ADD A BENEFIT TO THEM IS, UM, NOT NECESSARY. AND UM, ALSO, UM, STOPPING THIS TONIGHT WOULD BE ALSO A MOTION OF NOT APPROVING TONIGHT. SO I AM SUGGESTING THAT OKAY. IF WE FIND TO THEM AND, AND HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH SNAP OR, UH, WITH SHOTWELL? NO, I DO, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT'S THE ONE WE COULDN'T, YEAH. BUT CONNECT THE COMMENT FROM, UM, THE REPRESENTATIVE MI MR. SHOTWELL WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EXISTING BUSINESS, UM, DID NOT BECOME A NON-CONFORMITY. AND SO THE CHANGE TO MAKER MICRO WOULD ADDRESS HIS REQUEST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T BECOME A NON-CONFORMITY BY CHANGING IT TO A MIXED USE DESIGNATION. OKAY. AND YOU'LL WRITE THEM A LETTER? YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THEN, UM, THE, THE, UH, RIVER PARK WAS IN THE CONVERSATION IN THE AIRPORT, AND THERE'S NO ONE WHO HAS MENTIONED ANY, UM, COMMENT ON THAT. SO I'M, I'M SAYING THAT'S MOVING RIGHT THROUGH. AND, UM, WHAT ABOUT THE RIVER PARK? UH, PLEASE RECAP ON ON THAT. UH, THE, TO CHANGE THE LAND USE TO NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE FOR THE RIVER PARK FOUNDATION'S, UM, PROPERTY ON THE EAST SIDE. UM, SO THE 500 HOPPER STREET PROPERTY, WHICH WAS THEIR REQUEST, IT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT. YEAH, I MEAN, IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE THAT DECISION, YOU KNOW, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAT THAT RDI. RIGHT. OKAY. LET'S DO THAT BY, UM, A STRAW POLL TOO. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE RIVER PARK HAVING A, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER MIXED USE DESIGNATION. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. UH, SAY AYE. OKAY. SO, UM, THERE WE ARE. AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER ONE WAS, UM, I, I, UH, PROMISED A, UM, WAY IN ON THE EIGHT STORIES. UM, AND SO, UM, THAT ONE ALSO LET'S, UM, SAY IF WE'RE STAYING WITH THE PLAN AT AT EIGHT STORIES, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE, MR. MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT OR JUST MAKE A COMMENT. UM, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEIGHT, CAN I, CAN I SAY THAT WAS FIVE VOTES? YES. FIVE VOTES A COMMENT. WELL, MY COMMENT IS THAT MICROPHONE. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, WELL FIRST OF ALL, I FEEL AS THOUGH WHEN WE'RE TALK, I'M, I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT A FEW THINGS. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUSINESSES THAT CAME IN TODAY, MR. DI CARLY, YOU'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL WITH TWO YEARS. YOU WENT TO THEM AT THE LAST MINUTE, AND YOU COULD HAVE GONE TO THEM EARLY ON IF YOU WERE SO CONCERNED BECAUSE YOU KNEW WHAT THESE ZONING CHANGES WERE. WE'RE, WE'RE HOME STRETCH ON THIS. OKAY, FINISH THAT THEN. I WANNA FINISH THIS. I'M, I'M THINKING IN TERMS OF A A, A VOTE AND A CALLING OF THE NEXT ITEM UP HERE. I'M THINKING WE'RE MOVING THROUGH IN GENERAL. THANK YOU. UM, SO I THINK THAT'S ALL THE DIRECTION STAFF WAS LOOKING FOR IN THIS, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. I HAVE, UNRELATED TO WHAT SHE JUST SAID, I DO HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT THE GATE STORIES, UM, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO DEMYSTIFY SOMETHING AROUND [05:05:01] THAT SMART PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, SMART DOES OWN IT. SMART DID WANT TO DEVELOP IT. YES. THEY WANNA PUT THEIR HEADQUARTERS THERE. YES. BUILD HOUSING ON TOP. YES. AND THAT WAS SHUT DOWN. SO, UM, SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR SOURCE IS. YOU KNOW, I PROBABLY HAVE EQUAL SOURCE. SOMEONE TOLD ME. UM, SO SHALL WE, YOUR SOURCE, SHALL WE? I HEARD IT WAS COST. OKAY. IT WAS SHUT DOWN ON COST. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I, I HEARD DIFFERENTLY ABOUT IT, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH DISCUSSION AROUND NOTHING'S EVER BEEN BUILT THERE, BUT THERE'S THINGS THAT HAPPEN BEHIND THE SCENES THAT THE PUBLIC NEVER HEARS ABOUT. I'LL ADMIT. ALL, UM, ALL UM, DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES ARE ALL BEHIND THE VEIL. THAT'S TRUE. AND STAYING ON TOPIC HERE, I KNOW, I'M, I'M, OKAY. SMART BOARD OF DIRECTORS. UM, AND THERE HAS BEEN ON SMART AT THE TIME THINGS THAT HAVE TRIED TO GET BUILT THERE, BUT PART OF THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH OUR GENERAL PLAN AND THERE IS COST INVOLVED AND THEIR TAX HAD TO BE PASSED. AND SO THE TAX PASSED THIS LAST YEAR. GOOD. GOOD. SO GOOD INPUT. THANK YOU. INFORMATION THERE. THANK YOU. MEMBER BARNACLE. YEAH. UM, SO I JUST, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION IN A SECOND, BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING, UH, ABOUT THE, THE STATIONARY MIXED USE. THE, THE GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION BOTH RECOMMENDED THAT TO US. THAT'S HOW IT CAME TO US IN MARCH OF 2025. WE GOT THE ORIGINAL LAND USE PACKETS, AND IT WAS INCLUDED IN THAT IN JUNE, AFTER THREE DIFFERENT WORKSHOPS IN JUNE OF 2025, WE DECIDED TO ZONE DOWN, ZONE IT IN NOVEMBER OF 2025. THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD IT AND THEY THOUGHT WE GOT IT WRONG, AND THEY ADOPTED A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING BACK TO US AND SAID, PLEASE RECONSIDER THAT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT. AND AGENDIZED, UM, IN THE DECEMBER, 2025 COUNCIL MEETING THAT PEOPLE SAY WAS THIS BIG BEHIND CLOSED DOORS THING, IT ACTUALLY WASN'T, IT WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THAT WE RECONSIDER IT AND WE HEARD IT IN DECEMBER, AND THAT'S WHEN WE ADOPTED IT. AND THEN IN MAY OF 2025, WE UPHELD THAT. SO THE IDEA THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE GENERAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE TOLD US TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH THAT IS ACTUALLY NOT THE CASE. IT'S ACTUALLY THE EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE. UM, AND SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE, UH, I'M GONNA, I THINK WE'RE TALKING THE EIR MAKE A MOTION TO, I'M GONNA JUST GET THE RIGHT WORDING 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT MATTERS IN THIS CASE. UM, TO CERTIFY THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, UM, FOR THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE PETALUMA GENERAL PLAN 2050 AND ADOPTING THE PETALUMA GENERAL PLAN 2050, RESCINDING THE GENERAL PLAN 2025, ADOPTING THE FINDINGS OF FACT STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS AND THE MITIGATION AND MONITORING REPORTING PROGRAM WITH THE, UH, FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GIVEN, UH, TO STAFF ON THE PROPERTIES. UM, IN QUESTION. AND, UM, QUESTION IS THIS, ARE WE TAKING TWO SEPARATE VOTES ON THIS TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS? I THINK IF THE VOTE'S GONNA BE DIFFERENT, YOU NEED TWO MOTIONS. IF THE VOTE IS GONNA BE THE SAME ON BOTH, I THINK I THINK WE'RE GONNA ALLOW FOR, IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT AND, AND GO WITH, UH, REQUEST. SO I REVERSED? YES. OKAY. I DID ASK YOU AT THE BEGINNING IF I COULD MAKE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION. UM, IF THIS MOTION DOESN'T FAIL, YOU GET TO MAKE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION. I MEAN ALTERNATIVE, AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION THAT ENCOMPASSES BOTH THE FBIR AND THE GENERAL PLAN ADOPTION. IS IT SOMETHING WE CAN AMEND THE PROPOSED MOTION? I MEAN, I, I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND IT TO, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE GOT SEVERAL THINGS HERE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT I FEEL THAT WE NEED IN, IN ORDER TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE A RESPONSIBLE AND INFORMED DECISION. THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR JOB HERE, YOU KNOW, SO I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE NEEDS TO BE A CONGESTION STUDY AROUND THAT WHOLE AREA. SO INSTEAD OF IN, UM, SO THE PROCESS START HERE TO, TO ALLOW FOR THIS TO COME IN IS TO HAVE THE MOTION MADE AND THEN ASK TO AMEND THE MOTION. AND YOU AMEND THE MOTION WITH THE DETAILS YOU'RE SUGGESTING, AND WE CAN VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT, AND THEN WE CAN, UM, MOVE INTO THE, THE MAIN MOTION. WE NEED A MOTION TO GO PAST 11 O'CLOCK . I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. THANK YOU. THAT SECOND. AND, UM, LET'S DO THIS BY A CLAIM. ALL THOSE WILL WANT TO GO PAST 11 O'CLOCK. RAISE YOUR HAND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, AND LET THE RECORD SHOW, UM, THAT UNDER UNDERSTOOD. AND SO THE MOTION IS ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT. IS YOUR MOTION, YOUR AMENDMENT? I'M SORRY. SO [05:10:01] WHO DO WE DO WHO DO WE HAVE FOR A SECOND ON THE THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION BY BARNACLE, A SECOND BY A Cader Thompson TO CERTIFY THE EIR. AND THEN ARE YOU PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT TO THIS OR THE OTHER MOTION? I AM PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT THAT WE POSTPONE BOTH THE FEIR AND THE GENERAL PLAN, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THEM. I WOULD LIKE TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION UNANIMOUSLY, BUT I'M LOOKING AT DIFFERENT THINGS, AND THIS GENERAL PLAN AS IT SITS TO ME IS INCOMPLETE. MY, UM, OKAY. CAN I, I JUST WANT TO CALL A QUESTION ON THE VOTE FOR THE EIR. UM, LET'S GO TO THE ATTORNEY FIRST. SO YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. UM, MR. DI CARLY WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION, UM, THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, THE SECOND COULD A, ACCEPT A PROPOSED AMENDMENT, BUT WHAT HE'S PROPOSING IS A A COM IT SOUNDS LIKE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MOTION ON BOTH THE EIR AND ANTICIPATING THE, UM, THE GENERAL PLAN ITSELF. SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU HAVE A, A MEMBER WHO WANTS TO STOP DEBATE, IS THAT YOU CALL FOR A VOTE ON THE MOTION THAT'S ON THE FLOOR THAT HAS A SECOND. AND IF IT FAILS, THEN YOU CAN ENTERTAIN ALTERNATIVE MOTIONS. RIGHT? I, I THINK I DO HAVE A RIGHT THOUGH, UNDER THE RULES AND PROCEDURES TO MAKE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION. YOU KNOW, MY, UM, MY ROBERTS RULES ISN'T STRONG ENOUGH WHETHER, HOW A MOTION PREVIOUS QUESTION AND IT NEEDS A SECOND, RIGHT? ANY MOTION TO BE CONSIDERED NEEDS NEEDS A SECOND. RIGHT? SO THERE'S SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO CALL THE QUESTION, JUST SAY SECOND. I'M SORRY. WELL, HOLD ON A SECOND HERE. THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WERE SAYING HERE. SO, UM, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IT'S EITHER AN AMENDMENT TO THE ACTION THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, BUT IT CAN'T REALLY BE, WELL, THE, THE ACTION IS TO AMENDMENT TO NOT DO THE ACTION. THE ACTION IS TO ACCEPT THE FEIR TONIGHT. YES. MY MODIFICATION IS TO POSTPONE IT TO A DATE UNCERTAIN BASED ON GETTING A FEW MORE THINGS IN THERE AS STUDIES AND INFORMATION THAT I FEEL WE NEED TO MAKE THAT DECISION. SO WHAT, SO YOU WANNA PROPOSE AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION, BUT IT, DO YOU NEED A SECOND FOR THAT? RIGHT. BUT I'M TRYING TO GET IT OUT THERE ON, ON MO WHAT THAT MOTION IS. AMENDMENT OR DIES OR IT DIES. DO, UM, SO IT'S PROPOSING A, AN AND, AND, UM, AN AMENDMENT, AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION OR AN AMENDMENT. YEAH. I'M, I'M REALLY WISHING I HAD OUR YEAH, OUR RULES HANDY, WHICH I DON'T RIGHT NOW. I'LL, I'LL, I'LL PULL 'EM UP. BUT, BUT, BUT I, I DON'T THINK, I THINK, UM, I THINK WE OWE ATTENTION TO THE MOTION, THE SECOND BETTER ON THE FLOOR AND THE QUESTION. AND WE DO, YES. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE A MOTION. SECOND. AND CALL FOR THE QUESTION. CALL FOR THE QUESTION, UH, FROM QUINT. AND I'D LIKE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE EIR ARLE. AYE. PETER THOMPSON? YES. DI CARLY? NO. NOW YES. QUINT? YES. I'LL GO WITH YES. McDonnell? YES. MOTION CARRIE. SIX TO ONE. I'M LOOKING FOR ANOTHER MOTION ABOUT THE GENERAL PLAN COUNCIL MEMBER DI CARLY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE ADOPTING THE GENERAL PLAN TO A DATE UNCERTAIN BASED ON THE, BASED ON US GETTING MORE INFORMATION ON A CONGESTION STUDY IN THE AREA AROUND WASHINGTON D STREET AND LAKEVILLE, UH, A WATER STUDY, A MORE CONCLUSIVE WATER STUDY. AND, YOU KNOW, AN ALTERNATIVE IF WE, IN THE EIR, IF WE ADOPT THE GENERAL PLAN AND DO NOT INCREASE HEIGHT AND DENSITY, IF WE REMOVE THE EIGHT STORIES AND GO BACK TO FOUR STORIES AS THE PUBLIC WANTED, IF WE SORT OUT ALL THE PROPERTIES, ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT CAME TONIGHT, IF WE SORT ALL THAT OUT IN THAT TIME UNTIL WE COME BACK AND EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH THEIR, WITH THE DECISIONS. AND IF WE COMPLETE IZO UPDATES FOR NEW LAND USE DESIGNATIONS THAT WILL AFFECT PARCELS AND PROPERTIES IN THIS TOWN RIGHT NOW, WE FULLY DEFINE THAT AND THEN COME BACK. AND THEN THAT'S, THAT'S MY LIST. YEAH. SO I THINK THAT'S PRETTY REASONABLE. THAT'S THE MOTION. UH, MOTION IS LOOKING FOR A SECOND. NOT SEEING A SECOND. THE MOTION DIES FOR LACK OF A SECOND. COUNCILMAN BARNICLE. ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT, [05:15:01] UM, UH, TO ADOPT GENERAL PLAN 2050 RESCIND GENERAL PLAN 2025. ADOPT THE FINDINGS OF FACTS, STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS AND THE MITIGATION OF MONITORING REPORTING PROGRAM. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. MOTION BY BARNACLE SECOND BY NOW. AND COMMENT BY STAFF. WHAT DO WE MISS? JUST CLARIFYING THAT, THAT IN INCLUDES, UH, CHANGE TO THE RECOMMENDED MODIFICATIONS TO, UH, CORRECT ALL THE SHOT WALL PROPERTY CHANGES. THE MAKER MICRO YES. YES. AND THE RIVER PARK PROPERTY AS WELL. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE, UM, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. BARNACLE. AYE. PETER THOMPSON? YES. DI CARLY? NO. NOW? YES. QUINT? YES. SHRIVES? YES. McDonnell? YES. MOTION CARRIES. SIX TO ONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THEN, MR. MAYOR AND COUNSEL, I JUST, IN THE BACKGROUND, I PULLED UP OUR RULES AND THAT WAS PROPER PROCEDURE TO GIVE PRECEDENT TO THE MOTION WITH THE SECOND, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE QUESTION WAS CALLED. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO FINISH MY STATEMENT. NO, NO, I'M GOING TO, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT 55 BUSINESS OWNERS SUPPORTED THE SIX STORY HOTEL AND WE NOW WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A FOUR STORY HOTEL. OKAY. SO IT'S GONE, . ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU STAFF. GREAT NIGHT. STAFF. UM, AND WE ARE MOVING TO THE, UM, RESOLUTION, IMPROVING AGREEMENTS WITH SONOMA COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES, HUMANE SOCIETY OF SONOMA COUNTY FOR THE ANIMAL FIELDS, SHELTER, VETERINARY, AND, AND, UH, COMMUNITY SERVICES. WE ARE GONNA TAKE, UH, UM, FIVE MINUTES TO GET, UH, OUR TECHNICAL ISSUES TOGETHER. PLEASE RECORD FIVE MINUTES. ALRIGHT, LET'S CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER. AND, UM, YOU MISSING SOMEBODY YOU MISSING JUST TRIPS? YEAH. GOTAN, THANKS FOR THE TIP. YEAH, I'M STALLING, BUT WE, WE COULDN'T GO WITHOUT YOU. UM, SO, UM, HERE [17. Resolution Approving Agreements with Sonoma County Animal Services and the Humane Society of Sonoma County for Animal Field, Sheltering, Veterinary, and Community Services] WE ARE WITH ITEM 17 RESOLUTION I APPROVING AGREEMENTS WITH SONOMA COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES IN THE MAIN SOCIETY OF SONOMA COUNTY FOR ANIMAL FIELD SHELTER, VETERINARY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. AND TO HELP US WITH THIS, BRIAN COCHRAN, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH, TONIGHT WE'RE PLEASED TO BRING FORWARD WHAT WE THINK IS, UH, AN IMPORTANT NEXT STEP FOR THE CITY OF PETALUMA IN OUR ANIMAL SERVICES WORK. UH, AS THE COUNCIL KNOWS, THIS HAS BEEN AN AREA OF SIGNIFICANT ATTENTION OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS AND, AND FRANKLY, THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS SINCE THE END OF OUR PRIOR SERVICE ARRANGEMENTS, STAFF HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON SEVERAL THINGS AT ONCE. FIRST, UH, MAKING SURE THAT THERE WAS NO INTERRUPTION IN SERVICE FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND THEN ALSO TAKING THE TIME TO DEVELOP A STRONGER AND MORE SUSTAINABLE LONG-TERM MODEL FOR ANIMAL SERVICES. SO OUR GOALS HAVE BEEN PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT THIS HAS BEEN COMPLEX AND WE'VE HAD TO MANAGE MULTIPLE THINGS. UH, AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANT PETALUMA RESIDENTS TO HAVE RELIABLE ANIMAL CONTROL AND FIELD SERVICES WHEN THEY NEED THEM. WE WANT ANIMALS IN OUR CARE TO RECEIVE HIGH QUALITY, SHELTERING VETERINARY CARE, ADOPTION, AND REUNIFICATION SERVICES. AND WE WANT A SYSTEM THAT GIVES THE CITY MUCH STRONGER VISIBILITY INTO PERFORMANCE, FINANCES, COMPLAINTS, RECORDS, AND OVERALL CONTRACT COMPLIANCE. AND THAT LAST POINT, UH, IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT. ONE OF THE CONSISTENT THEMES IN THE WORK THAT WE HAVE BEEN, THAT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON OVER THE PAST YEAR AND INCLUDING, UH, OUR RESPONSES TO TWO CIVIL, GRAND JURY REPORTS, HAS BEEN THE NEED FOR STRONGER REPORTING, CLEARER RECORDS, BETTER COMPLAINT TRACKING, AND MORE FORMAL CONTRACT OVERSIGHT. THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE BUILT INTO THE NEW SERVICE MODEL THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TONIGHT, AND THAT, UH, IS IN THE, UH, AGENDA PACKAGE BEFORE YOU. AND ONE OF THE [05:20:01] BIGGEST CHANGES IS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING GOING TO A TWO PROVIDER MODEL. SO RATHER THAN ASKING ONE ORGANIZATION TO PROVIDE EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF ANIMAL SERVICES, UH, THE PROPOSAL WOULD DIVIDE THE WORK BETWEEN TWO ESTABLISHED REGIONAL PARTNERS WHO ALSO WILL BE COORDINATING AND COLLABORATING WITH ONE ANOTHER. SO SONOMA COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES WOULD PROVIDE ANIMAL CONTROL AND FIELD SERVICES, UH, THINGS LIKE RESPONDING TO CALLS IN THE COMMUNITY, ENFORCEMENT OF ANIMAL RELATED LAWS, ANIMAL PICKUP AND TRANSPORT, AND RELATED FIELD FUNCTIONS. UH, WHILE THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF SONOMA COUNTY WOULD OPERATE OUR PETALUMA SHELTER PROVIDE THE CORE SHELTERING FUNCTIONS LIKE ANIMAL CARE, VETERINARY SERVICES, ADOPTIONS, REUNIFICATION, AND RELATED COMMUNITY PROGRAMS. AND ADDITIONALLY, THROUGH A SUBCONTRACT, THE HUMANE SOCIETY WOULD ALSO, UH, WORK WITH FORGOTTEN FELINES ORGANIZATION ON ITS COMMUNITY CAT SERVICES PROGRAM. AND WE THINK THE STRUCTURE HAS SOME ADVANTAGES. IT ALLOWS EACH ORGANIZATION TO FOCUS ON THE WORK THAT IT'S BEST EQUIPPED TO PERFORM, CREATES CLEAR LINES OF RESPONSIBILITY, AND IT GIVES US THE BENEFIT OF WORKING WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALREADY HAVE SUBSTANTIAL EXPERTISE, EXPERIENCE STAFFING, UH, SYSTEMS AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO PROVIDE EXCELLENT SERVICES IN THEIR DIFFERENT, UH, AREAS OF EXPERTISE. WE ALSO THINK THE NEW AG AGREEMENTS, UH, IMPROVE ACCOUNTABILITY. SO THEY INCLUDE MORE FORMAL EXPECTATIONS AROUND REPORTING AND PERFORMANCE. THEY INCLUDE BETTER TRACKING OF LICENSING ACTIVITY, UH, COMPLAINTS, AND A COMPLAINT RESOLUTION, FINANCIAL INFORMATION SERVICE LEVEL, DATA RECORDS, RETENTION, AND ACCESS TO PUBLIC RECORDS. AND THOSE ARE ALL AREAS THAT WE HAVE SAID PUBLICLY, UH, AND THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS SAID, UH, WE NEED TO EXPECT MORE FROM OUR ANIMAL SERVICES CONTRACTS GOING FORWARD. SO THE GOAL IS TO NOT JUST COLLECT MORE REPORTS, COLLECT MORE DATA, ET CETERA. IT'S REALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNCIL HAVE INFORMATION NECESSARY TO, UH, IDENTIFY WHAT'S GOING RIGHT, IDENTIFY ISSUES, IDENTIFY THOSE EARLY, AND EVALUATE WHETHER THE CONTRACTS ARE PERFORMING AS INTENDED, AND GIVE THE PUBLIC A MUCH CLEARER PICTURE OF HOW THE OVERALL SYSTEM HERE IN PETALUMA IS WORKING. THERE'S ALSO AN IMPORTANT COMMUNITY CONNECTION AS, AS WE'VE SEEN, PETALUMA HAS A LONG HISTORY OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN ANIMAL WELFARE. UH, THERE ARE EMPLOYEES, VOLUNTEERS, UH, ADVOCATES AND RESIDENTS WHO CLEARLY CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE SHELTER HAVING A SHELTER HERE IN PETALUMA, AND THE ANIMALS WHO, WHO COME THROUGH THAT SYSTEM. WE WANT TO PRESERVE THAT LOCAL CONNECTION. AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE WANT TO, UH, PAIR, UH, WITH THESE PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS AND PROFESSIONAL SYSTEMS, STAFFING DEPTH THAT THEY BRING TO THE TABLE AND THEIR, THEIR ORGANIZATIONAL CAPACITY, UH, THAT WE THINK THERE ARE THESE MORE REGIONAL PARTNERS CAN PROVIDE. THERE IS A FINANCIAL IMPACT TO THE DECISION. UH, WE DO WANT TO MENTION THAT, AND I'VE GOT SOME MORE DETAIL ON A FEW SLIDES. UH, COMING UP HERE, BUT THIS IS A GREATER GENERAL FUND INVESTMENT, AND WE JUST NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND ENSURE THAT THIS IS THE SERVICE LEVEL THAT WE WANT FOR THAT LEVEL OF, OF ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT THAT THE GENERAL FUND, UH, WILL BEAR FOR, FOR YEARS TO COME. BUT, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THESE NEW CONTRACTS IS BASED ON THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE THINK THE COMMUNITY EXPECTS, AND THAT THE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE THE PROFESSIONAL CAPACITY TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES CONSISTENTLY, ALONG WITH BEING ABLE TO MEET THE STRONGER REPORTING, UH, AND OVERSIGHT REQUIREMENTS. SO, UH, WANTED TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS HAS BEEN, UH, A LONG PROCESS. IT'S BEEN A FAIRLY COMPLICATED TRANSITION, UH, AS WE MOVE FROM OUR PRIOR PROVIDER TO OUR INTERIM PROVIDER IN MARIN HUMANE, AND THEN MOVING ON TO OUR LONGER TERM PROVIDERS. AND IT'S BEEN A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF, UH, COORDINATION AMONGST MANY CITY STAFF AND MULTIPLE CITY DEPARTMENTS TO, TO GET US TO THIS POINT. AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO REQUIRE THAT COLLABORATION WITH OUR, UH, AND, AND IT'S ALSO INCLUDED OUR INTERIM PROVIDER, MARIN HUMANE, SONOMA COUNTY, AND SONOMA COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES, HUMANE SOCIETY, FORGOTTEN FELINES, ET CETERA. SO IT HAS BEEN, UH, BEEN A, A VERY COLLABORATIVE EFFORT THUS FAR, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL MOVE US FROM THE INTERIM MODEL, UH, AND FROM THE PRIOR PROVIDER INTO A MORE STABLE, LONG-TERM OPERATING MODEL THAT WILL PROVIDE HIGH QUALITY SERVICE AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT WE'VE MENTIONED A FEW TIMES TONIGHT. SO, HAVE JUST A FEW SLIDES AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND SHARE SCREEN TO TALK THROUGH, JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE [05:25:01] DETAIL ABOUT SOME OF THE SERVICES, UH, AS WELL AS THE BUDGET NUMBERS. SO JUST GIVE ME ONE MOMENT HERE. I, OKAY. SO, UH, I'VE, I'VE MENTIONED SOME OF THIS, BUT JUST TO REITERATE, THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO MOVE FROM THE INTERIM, UH, SOLUTION THAT WE'VE HAD IN PLACE FOR THE LAST FIVE MONTHS TO ENSURE A STABLE, ACCOUNTABLE, LONG-TERM, UH, SERVICE PROVIDER, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'VE MENTIONED, SONOMA COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES, AND HUMANE SOCIETY OF SONOMA COUNTY. THAT WOULD, UM, UH, IN TURN PROVIDE THE FIELD RESPONSE SIDE AS WELL AS THE SHELTERING AND, UH, SERVICES SIDE. UH, ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE FORGOTTEN FELINES TO PROVIDE THE SPECIALIZED COMMUNITY CAT SERVICES. AND THE, UH, THE REQUESTED COUNSEL ACTION TONIGHT IS TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION. THERE ARE SEVERAL PARTS TO THAT RESOLUTION, AND I'LL GET TO A LITTLE BIT OF THE COMPLEXITY ON AROUND THAT AT THE, UH, THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION. SO, AGAIN, WE'VE KIND OF SPLIT THIS UP WITH FIELD SERVICES. SONOMA COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES WILL ALSO BE DOING ALL OF OUR LICENSING, OUR RABIES CONTROL, ENFORCEMENT OF LAWS, UH, DEALING WITH DANGEROUS ANIMALS. ALL OF THOSE SERVICES THAT YOU'D EXPECT FROM ANIMAL CONTROL HUMANE SOCIETY WILL BE, UH, PROVIDING THE SHELTER OPERATIONS, VETERINARY CARE ADOPTIONS, REUNIFICATION. AND WE THINK THAT THE AGREEMENTS DO, THEY DO CREATE CLEAR ROLES AND THEY CREATE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THOSE VARIOUS SERVICES. UH, SO AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A LONGER LIST OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SON COUNTY WILL BE DOING, UH, ON THE CONTRACT TERM. THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BETWEEN THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS. SO SONOMA COUNTY IS BASICALLY JUST ONE YEAR TERMS WITH RENEWAL PERIODS. SO EACH YEAR WE WOULD GO THROUGH AND RENEW THE CONTRACT WITH THE UPDATED FEES, UH, FOR THE CURRENT YEAR. OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT A FULL YEAR OF SERVICE BECAUSE WE ARE IN SEPTEMBER, UH, BUT IT'D BE JUST OVER $500,000. AND THEN THERE ARE, UH, SOME POTENTIAL ESCALATORS FOR INFLATION, STAFF SALARIES, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO THIS CONTRACT DOES GET UP CLOSER TO $600,000 FOR A FULL YEAR, UH, AS WE MOVE FORWARD. HUMANE SOCIETY OF SONOMA COUNTY, UH, THIS CONTRACT, THE INITIAL TERM, UH, IS ACTUALLY ABOUT ONE YEAR AND NINE MONTHS. SO IT GETS US THROUGH ALL OF THIS FISCAL YEAR PLUS THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. THAT INITIAL TERM IS ABOUT $1.6 MILLION. WE DID ALSO ADD TWO ONE YEAR RENEWALS, BUT THOSE COSTS WOULD NEED TO BE REVIEWED AND NEGOTIATED AND DISCUSSED IN SOME SORT OF AMENDMENT BETWEEN THE ORGANIZATIONS TO ENSURE THAT THE BUDGET IS IN LINE WITH THE EXPECTED SERVICE LEVELS. AND THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY HERE ASSOCIATED WITH HUMANE SOCIETY, INCLUDING ALL OF THE SHELTERING. UH, BUT THERE ARE ALSO SOME PROPOSED POTENTIAL COMMUNITY PROGRAMS IN THE FUTURE, SUCH AS ACCESS TO VETERINARY CARE, UH, YOUTH EDUCATION PROGRAMS, FOOD PANTRY, THEY'D BE COORDINATING VOLUNTEERS, ET CETERA. UH, AND THEN THE, UH, THE SERVICES THROUGH FORGOTTEN FELINES WOULD INCLUDE THE, THE TRAP NEUTER AND RELEASE SERVICES FOR PETALUMA COMMUNITY CATS, UP TO A SPECIFIED NUMBER OF THOSE CATS PER YEAR. AND YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE STAFF REPORT AND IN SOME OF THE ATTACHMENTS, THERE ARE SEVERAL RELATED DOCUMENTS HERE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, UH, HUMANE SOCIETY CONTRACT, INCLUDING THE SITE LICENSE, WHICH ACTUALLY, UH, PERMITS 'EM TO OPERATE ON CITY PROPERTY. AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER SITE ITSELF, THERE'S A LIST OF INVENTORY INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS, AND THEN SOME, UH, THE FEE SCHEDULE ASSOCIATED WITH ANIMAL CARE. WE DO HAVE A VARIETY OF ACCOUNTABILITY PROVISIONS. I DID WANNA MENTION THESE SPECIFICALLY, UH, IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE REPORTING. SO THE WORKLOAD SERVICE LEVELS CALL VOLUMES, RESPONSE TIMES SHELTER ACTIVITY, AND THERE COULD BE MANY OTHERS. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IN THE CONTRACT IS LOCK INTO VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO KIND OF CUSTOMIZE AND CRAFT IT AS, AS WE GO. SO THERE ARE EXAMPLE METRICS LISTED IN THE HUMANE SOCIETY'S PROPOSAL, BUT STAFF WILL BE WORKING WITH 'EM AS THEY BUILD OUT THEIR QUARTERLY REPORTING MECHANISM TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THOSE METRICS THAT WE WOULD LIKE. LIKE FOR PETALUMA CITY OVERSIGHT, WE DO HAVE, UH, ACCESS TO RECORDS. WE'LL BE HAVING REGULAR COORDINATION MEETINGS, THE ABILITY TO, UH, UH, ESCALATE ISSUES, AND THEN JUST OVERALL MONITOR THE CONTRACT AS AS WE MOVE FORWARD. WE DO THINK THE DEFINED SCOPES HELP DEFINE THOSE DUTIES A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THE ONE COMBINED SCOPE THAT WE HAD BEFORE. ONE THING THAT WE SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR IN THE RFP AND THAT BOTH ORGANIZATIONS HAVE RESPONDED TO IS, UH, AND ACTUALLY I SHOULD MENTION, WAS, UH, WAS DETAILED IN THE GRAND JURY REPORT AS WELL, IS COMPLAINT TRACKING. SO DOCUMENTING COMPLAINTS, HAVING A CLEAR ESCALATION PROCESS WHEN SOMEBODY ISN'T SATISFIED WITH [05:30:01] THE RESPONSE THAT THEY GOT, HOW DOES THAT KIND OF GO UP THE CHAIN? SO THERE ARE MORE DETAILED PROCEDURES FOR THAT. UH, IN TERMS OF FINANCE AND RISK CONTROLS, WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED STRONGER FINANCIAL REPORTING. I MENTIONED QUARTERLY REPORTING. ONE ADDITIONAL DETAIL THERE IS THAT WE DO PLAN TO BRING THOSE QUARTERLY REPORTS ON FUTURE COUNCIL CONSENT AGENDAS, SO THAT THOSE ARE CLEARLY PUBLIC, THEY COULD BE DISCUSSED OR COMMENTED ON AT THESE MEETINGS, AS WELL AS PLACING 'EM, UH, OBVIOUSLY ON OUR WEBSITE, HUMANE SOCIETIES WEBSITE, ET CETERA. UH, WE REQUIRE ALL OF THE, THE TYPICAL INSURANCE INDEMNIFICATION, THE SITE LICENSE, AND THEN, UH, WE HAVE OUR, UH, RENEWAL AND TERMINATION PROVISIONS AS WE WOULD WITH, WITH ANY AGREEMENT, RECORDS MANAGEMENT AND OTHER AREA THAT WE WANTED TO EMPHASIZE, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THAT WAS NOT WORKING WELL WITH OUR PRIOR PROVIDER. UH, BOTH OF THESE AGENCIES, I BELIEVE, ARE VERY ACCUSTOMED TO RESPONDING TO PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS, UH, AND WOULD CONTINUE TO BE A STRONG PROVIDER, UH, IN, IN THE, IN THAT, THAT AREA. SO I THINK THERE'S A THEME HERE. WE HAVE GOOD CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS, BETTER DATA MOVING FORWARD, AND WE HAVE, UM, ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE USED TO PROVIDING DATA, PROVIDING REPORTING, AND, UH, AND MEETING THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE CONTRACTS THAT THEY'VE EXECUTED WITH OTHER PUBLIC ENTITIES. SO, UH, WE'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS I MENTIONED. THERE WERE A FEW COMPLEXITIES IN THESE CONTRACTS, SO I WANTED TO JUST OUTLINE THEM. THEY ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT AND IN THE RESOLUTION. UH, BUT WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT MARIN HUMANE DID FINISH ITS ASSIGNMENT ON AUGUST 31. AND SO WE DID, WE HAD A NEED FOR ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES BEGINNING SEPTEMBER 1ST. WE COULDN'T HAVE A GAP WHERE THERE WAS NO SERVICE, UH, AT THAT TIME. SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS WE HAD A PLACEHOLDER AGREEMENT THAT WAS KIND OF THE INITIAL DRAFT, UH, WITH SONOMA COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES. BUT BECAUSE OF TIMING AND THE NEED TO GO TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, OR EXCUSE ME, UH, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, UH, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FULLY NEGOTIATE SORT OF A ROBUST PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THEM AT THE TIME, BASED ON THEIR AGENDA, UM, PUBLISHING DEADLINES. SO THEY TOOK FORWARD THE, WHAT I'M JUST CALLING HERE INFORMALLY IS THE PLACEHOLDER AGREEMENT. UM, AND THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, SON, COUNTY, CITY MANAGER, DID SIGN THAT AGREEMENT. SO THAT'S IN PLACE NOW. THEY'RE PROVIDING SERVICES, UH, TO FTES HERE LOCALLY IN, IN PETALUMA, KIND OF IN THAT INTERIM PERIOD, WE, WE BELIEVE WE HAVE FULLY LANDED ON THE NEGOTIATED TERMS OF THE, OF, OF THE MORE ROBUST AGREEMENT. SO AGAIN, THERE'S JUST KIND OF A TIMING ISSUE THERE THAT WILL GO BACK TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO, TO GET THAT FULL AGREEMENT AMENDED AND RESTATED AGREEMENT EXECUTED, UH, LOOKING AT LATE OCTOBER, BUT THAT DATE MAY FLUCTUATE A LITTLE BIT, JUST DEPENDING ON THEIR AGENDA MANAGEMENT SCHEDULE, THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU, IT DOES A NUMBER OF THINGS. IT RATIFIES THE, UH, THE CITY MANAGER'S SIGNATURE ON THE PLACEHOLDER AGREEMENT, AND IT ALSO AUTHORIZES THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN THE FUTURE AGREEMENT, THE AMENDED AND RESTATED AGREEMENT WHEN THAT IS READY TO BE EXECUTED. AND THEN ONE FINAL THING TO MENTION, THE FEE SCHEDULE, UH, HAS LANGUISHED AND HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED IN A NUMBER OF YEARS. SO WHEN, UH, NORTH BAY ANIMAL SERVICES ORIGINALLY CAME INTO THE ROLE 2018, THERE WAS A FEE SCHEDULE IN THAT PACKET. IT ALLOWED FOR FEE UPDATES BASED ON CONSUMER PRICE INDEX, AND THOSE WERE NOT UPDATED. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THIS PACKET, UH, BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TAKEN THOSE, CALL IT EIGHT YEARS WORTH OF CPI INCREASES, ESCALATED THE FEES FORWARD. AND SO NOW WE'RE RE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT NEW FEE SCHEDULE ALONG WITH, WITH THIS AGREEMENT, IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL FEES OR THAT THAT NEED TO BE SYNCED UP OR CHANGED BASED ON SYN HUMANE'S, UH, STANDARD FEES, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AND THEN COME BACK TO COUNCIL AT A FUTURE DATE FOR THOSE CHANGES. SO, JUST ON THE FISCAL SIDE, AND TO WRAP UP, UH, AS THE COUNCIL MAY KNOW, OUR, AND I THINK THE MAYOR ACTUALLY MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, THE, THE PRIOR ANIMAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WAS UNDER $500,000, THE CURRENT BUDGET, BECAUSE WE KNEW SOME OF THESE CHANGES WERE HAPPENING WHEN THE CITY ADOPTED THE BUDGET, UH, FOR 26 27, WE PUT JUST KIND OF A BALLPARK PLACEHOLDER IN OF AROUND $900,000. WHAT'S COME BACK FROM THE RFP AND FROM THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'VE SELECTED TO MOVE FORWARD IS THAT IN THE CURRENT YEAR, WE'RE ESTIMATING AT LEAST 1.2 MILLION IN ANNUAL, UH, AIR IN CURRENT FISCAL YEAR ANIMAL SERVICES COSTS. AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE A FULL YEAR, AND BOTH ORGANIZATIONS ARE ON BOARD, UH, BE BASICALLY BEGINNING 27, 28 FISCAL YEAR. WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT THE POTENTIAL ONGOING COSTS MAY BE IN THE BALLPARK OF 1.5 MILLION. SO DEFINITELY [05:35:01] A SIGNIFICANT ESCALATION OF THE CITY'S OVERALL INVESTMENT IN ANIMAL SERVICES. AND WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOT, UH, ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT WILL PROVIDE THAT HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT, THAT PETALUMA EXPECTS. SO, UH, WITH THAT, I THINK I WILL WRAP UP AND TURN IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL. AND STAFF'S HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M LOOKING TO COUNCIL FOR ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PRESENTATION, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. COUNCIL MEMBER REPPS. OKAY. FIRST QUESTION IS JUST ON THE, UH, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT MORE MONEY, UH, GO THIS, GO AROUND THAT WE'RE HAVING, OH, WHAT IMPACT IS THAT GOING TO HAVE ON OUR CURRENT BUDGET FOR, FOR THE WHOLE CITY? UH, WHAT, WHAT DO WE, WHAT DO WE MIGHT LOSE OR CHANGE OR MODIFY OR PULL MONEY AWAY FROM? I DON'T THINK WE CAN SAY THAT SPECIFICALLY NOW, BUT WHAT I WILL ADD IS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE HAD ANTICIPATED SOME OF THIS, THE IMPACT IS REALLY CLOSER TO $300,000 ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. SO WHEN WE, UM, UH, AS I MENTIONED, THE, THE NEW BUDGET IS AROUND 900,000 FOR THE CURRENT YEAR, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 1.2. SO AGAIN, THAT'S A $300,000 CHANGE. AND THEN SIMILARLY, IN 27, 28, IN THE LAST GENERAL FUND FORECAST THAT THE COUNCIL SAW, WE HAD ANTICIPATED AND FORECASTED 1.2 MILLION, AND IT'S LOOKING LIKE 1.5. SO BOTH OF THOSE, IN THOSE EXAMPLES, IT'S ABOUT A $300,000 ANNUAL SWING. UM, WHICH WE REALLY JUST NEED TO FACTOR THAT INTO THE OVERALL, UH, GENERAL FUND DEFICIT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND I WOULD JUST SAY OVERALL IN THAT, IN THAT ARENA, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS CHANGING. YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL HAS RECENTLY APPROVED, UH, NEW BARGAINING AGREEMENTS WITH ALL OF OUR LABOR GROUPS. WE'VE WE'RE LOOKING AT UPDATED REVENUE NUMBERS ALL THE TIME, QUARTERLY SALES, TAX PERFORMANCE, ET CETERA. SO IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, DOING THIS. UM, SO THIS OVERALL $300,000 HIT WILL BE FACTORED INTO THAT, AND WE'LL BE, WE USUALLY COME BACK AFTER THE MID MIDDLE OF THE FISCAL YEAR WITH AN UPDATED FORECAST, AND WE CAN ROLL THIS INTO THAT. OKAY. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S MANAGEABLE. UM, THEN NOW THAT WE'RE GONNA USE, LIKE, UH, SONOMA COUNTY SERVICES, UM, UH, LOOKING AT THE RESPONSE TIME, ESPECIALLY FOR ANIMAL SERVICES, WE USED TO HAVE TRUCKS HERE ON OUR SITE GOING OUT. WILL THE, WILL THERE ALSO BE STAFF ON OUR SITE HERE, UH, FOR THE ANIMAL SERVICES, OR DO THEY HAVE TO COME FROM LIKE, UH, SONOMA OR SANTA ROSA? THEY WILL BE ASSIGNED TO BASICALLY THE PETALUMA PATROL BEAT. UM, THEY MAY NOT BE LOCATED PHYSICALLY AT THE SHELTER, ALTHOUGH THEY MAY STOP IN THERE IF THEY'RE COMING TO OR FROM CALLS. UM, BUT GENERALLY THE RESPONSE GUIDELINE IS ON A PRIORITY ONE CALL, LIKE AN URGENT, UH, EMERGENCY TYPE SITUATION. IT'S, UM, IT'S UNDER 30 MINUTES IS, IS THE, IS THE GOAL. THEY MAY BE LONGER IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST A, UM, A LOWER PRIORITY CALL, BUT THEY, THEY DO HAVE TARGETS THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE, UH, THEIR RFP RESPONSE FOR THOSE RESPONSE TIMES. OKAY. SO WE'RE, SO WE'RE NOT LOSING, UH, UH, THINGS LIKE KNOW FOR FIRE RESPONSE TIME IS REALLY IMPORTANT. UM, AND WE THINK FOR THIS COULD BE, SO IS, IS THAT A CHANGE FROM PRIOR? UH, I'M, I'M NOT SURE WE CAN POSITIVELY SAY WHAT THE RESPONSE TIMES WERE FOR NORTH BAY ANIMAL SERVICES. OKAY. BUT THIS APPEARS TO BE THE STANDARD THAT SONOMA COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES APPLIES TO ALL OF ITS PUBLIC ENTITY CLIENTS. OKAY, GOOD. I JUST WANNA JUST CHECK AND MAKE SURE WE QUALIFY ALL THAT. UM, AND, UH, THE QUESTIONS HAVE COME UP ABOUT, UM, UM, BESIDES THE CITY LOOKING AT RECORDS AND THE, LIKE, IS THERE ANY, UM, LIKE A, A BOARD OR A CITIZEN OVERSIGHT GROUP, OR IS ANY OTHER ANYBODY GOING TO BE, UM, LOOKING OVER THEIR SHOULDER AT THE SAME TIME? WELL, BOTH ENTITIES HAVE THEIR OWN GOVERNING BODIES. SO, UM, SONOMA HUMANE HAS ITS OWN BOARD OF DIRECTORS THAT, UH, IS, ITS GOVERNING BODY, AND THEN IN THE CASE OF THE COUNTY, IT'S THE COUNTY. SO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, BUT ADDITIONALLY, UH, THE ANIMAL CONTROL OR ANIMAL SERVICES DIVISION IS, IS A DIVISION UNDERNEATH THE HEALTH SERVICES DEPARTMENT. SO BE THE DIRECTOR OF HEALTH SERVICES ULTIMATELY. OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU. I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT CLEAR IS THAT THERE IS, UH, PLENTY OF OVERSIGHT. YEAH. UH, FOLKS LOOKING AT THIS THING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER NOW. UM, THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU, BRIAN, FOR, FOR YOUR REPORT AND ALL THE WORK THAT WENT INTO IT. AND I SEE OUR FUTURE WITH OUR ANIMAL SERVICES, MUCH, YOU KNOW, BETTER. AND, UM, IT IS A HIGH PRIORITY. WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY ON WHAT THEY EXPECT FOR A LEVEL OF SERVICE FROM THE CITY AND FROM WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTOR WE USE. BUT THEY REALLY NEED TO HAVE A CITY OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, AN ANIMAL SERVICES, UM, COMMITTEE COME BACK AND THEY WOULD ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY WHEN THEY HAVE [05:40:01] FUTURE ISSUES WITH DOG BITES, OR MANAGE RECORD KEEPING AND MANAGE COMPLAINTS QUICKER TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE PUBLIC. HOW CAN WE GET THERE? WHAT CAN WE DO TO BRING BACK THE, A, THE CITY ANIMAL SHELTER OR ANIMAL SERVICES COMMITTEE? SO I'LL START, AND MAYBE THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN HELP WITH THIS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAW AS AN ISSUE WITH THE PRIOR ANIMAL SERVICES COMMITTEE, AND I THINK IT IT RELATES TO KIND OF THE FORMALIZED CONTRACT OVERSIGHT STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY, IS THAT THE, THE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THAT COMMITTEE SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED ANY OVERSIGHT OF THE OPERATIONS OF THE ANIMAL SERVICES PROVIDER AND THE FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE. SO BOTH THE OPERATIONAL PERFORMANCE AND THE FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE OF THE ANIMAL SERVICES PROVIDER. UM, WHICH MAY SOUND LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF A HEAD SCRATCHER AT FIRST BECAUSE IT IS THE ANIMAL SERVICES COMMITTEE, YOU WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE OVERSEEING THE ANIMAL SERVICES PROVIDER. BUT AGAIN, I BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE OF THE STRUCTURE ULT, THE, THE WAY THE REPORTING RELATIONSHIPS ARE, ULTIMATELY IT'S THE CITY COUNCIL THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONTRACT THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER AND SUBORDINATE STAFF MEMBERS, UH, THE COMMITTEES AND, UH, AND COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS ARE TYPICALLY ADVISORY IN NATURE ONLY TO THE CITY COUNCIL, EXCEPT FOR INSTANCES LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ET CETERA, THAT MAY HAVE SOME DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY. SO THAT'S HOW IT WAS SET UP. I THINK THERE WERE SOME REASONS FOR THAT. UH, AND, AND I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT A, A FUTURE COMMITTEE WOULD LOOK LIKE THAT WOULD BE ANY DIFFERENT THAN THAT. THANKS, BRIAN. SO, UM, YEAH, I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DESCRIBING IS, UM, A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE, UM, CONTRACT MODEL FOR PROVISION OF CITY SERVICES. UM, AND THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THOSE IS, UM, FOR OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES IS, IS SOMETHING YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH. AND THAT IS, THERE'S DELEGATED CONTRACTING AUTHORITY TO THE CITY MANAGER FOR THOSE KINDS OF AGREEMENTS. SOME OF, SOME OF THE CONTRACTING AUTHORITY, THE COUNCILS RETAINED LIFE FOR PUBLIC SERVICE, I'M SORRY, PUBLIC WORKS CONTRACTS, UM, OTHER CONTRACTS THAT WE DO. SO THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A BIFURCATION, UH, A KIND OF A STRUCTURAL ONE, UM, WHERE THE CITY STAFF ACCOUNTABLE WITH COUNCIL RETAINED THE CONTRACT MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY, JUST LIKE WE OUGHT TO BECAUSE IT'S PUBLIC FUNDS BEING SPENT. AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, UM, THERE ARE NO CONTRACTS OR CONTRACTORS THAT OUR OTHER SUBORDINATE BODIES MANAGE. THEY OVERSEE PROGRAMS, THEY ADVISE THE COUNCIL, UM, THEY, THEY'RE ALL PRECLUDED IN THEIR ENABLING LEGISLATION, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM HIRING ANYBODY OR SUPERVISING ANYBODY. SO ONE, ONE QUE WE COULD GO BACK AND IT'LL BE EASY FOR US TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT THAT ENABLING LEGISLATION SAID, BUT THERE WASN'T, I'M NOT SURE THERE WAS LIKE SUCH A CLEAR OR PARTICULARLY NECESSARILY HELPFUL OR MEANINGFUL ROLE THAT WAS SET OUT FOR THE ANIMAL SERVICE COMMITTEE TO PLAY. UM, SO, UM, THAT IS ONE REASON. AND, AND, AND SO THAT'S NOT UNIQUE TO THIS, UM, THIS, THIS FORM OF EXPANDING EXISTING STAFFING CAPABILITY BY PROVIDING FOR CONTRACT SERVICES IN THE CITY. THAT'S CONTRACT SERVICES IN THE CITY ARE HOW WE EXPAND THE SERVICES THAT WE CAN PROVIDE WITH OUR EXISTING STAFF, AND ALSO HOW WE, UM, CONTROL AND MANAGE RISK BECAUSE WE, UM, IN OUR CONTRACTS ROUTINELY ENSURE THAT THE CONTRACT SERVICE PROVIDERS HAVE THE PERMITS AND THE LICENSES THAT THEY NEED, THAT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN INSURANCE, THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES, UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT, ET CETERA. SO, UM, THAT IS ALSO A REASON WHY THE OVERSIGHT AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY TO STAFF AS PRO PROGRAM MANAGERS OF CONTRACT SERVICES, AND ULTIMATELY THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT'S EMBEDDED IN THESE SCOPES OF WORK IS SO IMPORTANT. BECAUSE LIKE ANY OTHER CONTRACTS WE DO, WE DON'T REALLY, THE COUNCIL DOESN'T DELEGATE AUTHORITY TO ANOTHER BODY, UH, THE CITY MANAGER DOES. OKAY. GOOD ANSWER. GOOD. WELL, THE ANIMAL SERVICES COMMITTEE 20 YEARS AGO WAS DEALING WITH MORE THAN JUST DOG BITES OR RECORD KEEPING OR FERAL CATS. THEY HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC WHEN THERE WAS HOMEOWNERS THAT WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORS WITH POTBELLY PIGS AND ORDINANCES NEEDED TO BE CHANGED, IT'S GONNA BRING BACK SOME MEMORIES. RIGHT? RIGHT. AND THERE WAS A BEEKEEPING [05:45:01] SITUATION. IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, CAN YOU HAVE BEES IN THE CITY LIMITS? MM-HMM . SANTA ROSA'S DEALING WITH THAT RIGHT NOW. MM-HMM . IT'S AN ORDINANCE ISSUE, BUT IT WAS BROUGHT TO THE COMMITTEE LIKE MANY OTHER THINGS. AND EVEN THE PARKS AND RECS, WHEN SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE CHANGED IN AN ORDINANCE, IT FIRST GOES TO THAT COMMUNITY BODY MM-HMM . AND THEN THE LIAISON BRINGS IT TO THE COUNCIL, AND THEN IT EVENTUALLY GETS ON AN AGENDA AND IT EVENTUALLY GOES THROUGH YOUR OFFICE AND MAYBE AN ORDINANCE GETS WRITTEN, IT MIGHT TAKE A WHILE BECAUSE THERE'S LEGAL ISSUES. AND THEN THE CITY COUNCIL EVENTUALLY VOTES ON IT. SO THEY COULD PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING REGULATIONS LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES, FOR EXAMPLE. AND, AND IS IS IN THE PROCESS OF DOING, FOR EXAMPLE, CONCERNING THE, THE ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATES. UM, BUT THE FOCUS OF, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT WE'VE BEEN FOCUSED IN THIS CHANGE OF CONTRACT SERVICE PROVIDERS AND THE AGREEMENTS, UM, THAT ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THOSE SERVICES ON, ON SERVICE DELIVERY CONTROLS. AND THAT IS NOT THE PROVINCE OF A COMMITTEE. SO, UM, SO I, WHAT I WOULD RES RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT TO THE COUNCIL IS I THINK IT'S GONNA BE HELPFUL AND IMPORTANT TO DISTINGUISH WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'D LIKE THE COMMITTEE TO DO AND TO RECOGNIZE THAT IT PROBABLY IS NOT APPROPRIATE TO LOOK TO THEM TO MANAGE AND OVERSEE THE CONTRACT PERFORMANCE. THAT'S, THAT'S A STAFF JOB AND A COUNCIL JOB OVERSEEING STAFF. UM, AND IF THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT A ANOTHER SUBORDINATE BODY TO DO, THEN WE, WE CAN CERTAINLY ASSIST WITH THAT. WE'VE HAD ENABLING LEGISLATION FOR THEM BEFORE WE CAN CREATE NEW ENABLING LEGISLATION. UMS, LET'S EXPLORE THAT. BUT THAT'S MY ANSWER'S OFFLINE. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE THAT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE US, UM, LOOK INTO IT AND THINK ABOUT HAVING A COMMUNITY BASED ANIMAL SERVICES COMMITTEE SO THAT THE PUBLIC HAS MORE INPUT TO WHAT WE ARE DOING. IS THAT MY, SO, SO NOTED AND, AND, AND, AND WHAT ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE USED TO HEARING ME SAY IS, UM, 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S HELPFUL FOR US TO FOCUS ON WHAT OUR LEGISLATIVE OR REGULATORY OR POLICY OBJECTIVE IS AND THEN IMPLEMENT THAT. AND SO WHAT MY, MY RESPONSE TO YOU WOULD BE, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE HELPFUL FOR US TO NOODLE A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT YOU'D LIKE THEM TO DO, AND ONCE WE HAVE A PRETTY CLEAR IDEA ABOUT THAT AND SOME DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO IMPLEMENT THAT. OKAY. BUT FOR NOW, OUR FOCUS IS ON MANAGING CONTRACT SERVICE DELIVERY AND HAVING ADEQUATE CONTROLS SO THAT STAFF HOLD THE PROVIDERS ACCOUNTABLE AND YOU HOLD STAFF ACCOUNTABLE TO, WELL, I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE TO THE, TO THE COMMUNITY, TO HERE AND TO STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SOMETHING TO LOOK AT FOR THE FUTURE SO THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS MORE INPUT TO A COMMITTEE THAT CAN REPORT BACK TO THE COUNCIL. BECAUSE WE WERE KIND OF, UM, WE WEREN'T REALLY INFORMED ON EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING DOWN THE LAST YEAR. THANK YOU. UM, AND QUESTIONS I HAVE ONE QUESTION. UM, I HAD SIMILAR THOUGHTS, COUNCILMEMBER NOW, UM, BUT THEN I LOOKED AND I DIDN'T SEE OTHER CITIES THAT HAD ANIMAL SERVICES COMMITTEES. AND MY QUESTION IS, FOR OUR INCOMING PROVIDERS, HOW MANY OF YOUR CITIES OR JURISDICTIONS, UM, CAN YOU SOMEONE COME UP AND JUST SAY LIKE, DO YOU HAVE, IS THIS A REGULAR THING? UM, THAT'S MY MY QUESTION I GUESS. UM, I'M THE, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT HUMAN SOCIETY. UM, WE HAVE FOUR CITY CONTRACTS NOW, AND, AND WE DON'T HAVE, UM, ANYTHING IN THE WORKS LIKE THAT CURRENTLY. UM, THIS IS THE LARGEST CITY, WHICH COULD BE A CONSIDERATION, BUT I THINK THE DISTINCTION IS, UM, THE ROLE, RIGHT? LIKE WE'RE HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE IN A GROUP, BUT IF IT'S OVERSIGHT, I KNOW BEFORE THE CITY MANAGER, ASSISTANT MANAGER HAD TO FACILITATE THE GROUP VERSUS US FACILITATING THE GROUP. I THINK THAT'S SORT OF THE DISTINCTION IS WHO'S MANAGING IT AND WHO'S FOLLOWING UP. APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IT'S ALL FOR ME. THEN WE'LL GO TO THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT AND COME BACK TO COUNCIL AT THIS TIME. WHAT, UM, UH, SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, DI CARLY, UM, HAS RAISED HIS HAND. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO MY QUESTIONS ARE KIND OF AROUND REPORTING AND TRANSPARENCY, AND TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, THERE WILL BE QUARTERLY REPORTS THAT COME OUT AND WE'LL GO THROUGH [05:50:01] THE CONSENT CALENDAR SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN VIEW THEM. CORRECT. AND WHAT SORT OF METRICS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THOSE REPORTS FOR THEM TO READ? UH, WE CAN HONESTLY DEFINE OUR OWN METRICS. I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME PROB SOME INDUSTRY STANDARD ONES, UM, THAT, THAT WE COULD DEFINITELY INCLUDE. BUT I THINK REALLY THE, THE ONLY LIMITATION IS ON THE, THE DATA THAT'S, THAT'S ROUTINELY COLLECTED BY OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS. UH, THERE WERE SOME LISTS OF EXAMPLE METRICS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THEIR, UH, RFP RESPONSES. I DON'T HAVE IT PULLED UP THIS SECOND. I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, CYNTHIA OR CARRIE, DO YOU WANNA JUST CHIME IN ON KIND OF WHAT YOUR OTHER QUARTERLY REPORTS LOOK LIKE FOR SOME OF YOUR OTHER JURISDICTIONS ON WHAT THE METRICS ARE? YEAH, THERE'S, UM, STANDARDIZED DATA THROUGH, UH, SHELTER COUNTS, WHICH IS A NATIONAL DATA SET THAT, UM, WE ALL REPORT TO. AND SO THAT'S THE MINIMUM DATA, UM, INTAKE OUTCOMES, ADOPTIONS, UM, SO THE STATUS OF THE ANIMALS THAT COME IN AND GO OUT AND THEN, UH, THEIR LENGTH OF STAY, THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THAT WE DON'T HAVE IMMEDIATE DATA ON, OR MORE OF THE OPTIONAL SERVICES, LIKE BEHAVIORAL SUPPORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT INTERNALLY, BUT WE HAVE A VERY COMPLETE AND ROBUST DATA, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO, UM, WE'LL BE MEETING AND WORKING ON, UM, ENHANCING THE REPORTS IN ANY WAY, UM, THAT ARE NECESSARY, BUT IT'LL INCLUDES SOME QUALITATIVE DATA TO THE STORIES, THAT KIND OF THING. OH, THANK YOU. MM-HMM . AND GIVEN THIS SITUATION WE JUST WENT THROUGH, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL METRICS WE SHOULD BE INCLUDING BESIDES, UM, STANDARD ONES AND WHAT WAS JUST MENTIONED? WELL, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE QUESTION ON RESPONSE TIMES IS A GOOD ONE. UM, I THINK WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO TRACK THAT AS BEST WE CAN. I KNOW THE GRAND JURY WAS REALLY FOCUSED ON LICENSING PERFORMANCE, SO THAT, THAT APPEARS TO BE ONE THAT, UH, AND SON COUNTY ISN'T, ISN'T HERE TONIGHT. UM, BUT THAT'S ONE THAT I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT MORE CLOSELY BECAUSE THEY DID THE, UH, INVESTIGATION FOR ALL SON COUNTY JURISDICTIONS IN TERMS OF LICENSING PERFORMANCE. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REALLY BEEF UP. UM, JUST GOING TO THE DOCU PET SOFTWARE HAS ONLINE RENEWALS, YOU KNOW, EMAIL NOTIFICATIONS, ALL THOSE SORTS OF MODERN CONVENIENCES THAT WE, WE'VE COME TO EXPECT. I THINK WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THAT CAN REALLY BE AMPED UP. SO THAT'S JUST ONE OTHER EXAMPLE AREA WHERE, WHERE WE CAN DO A MUCH BETTER JOB OF, OF REPORTING. UM, I THINK WE WOULD WANNA WORK WITH OUR PROVIDERS ON MORE, UM, PERFORMANCE TYPE METRICS, SO INCOMES, OUTCOMES, ET CETERA. THOSE ARE, UM, THOSE ARE MORE NUMERIC, YOU KNOW, UH, DATA POINTS. BUT IN TERMS OF TIME TO ADOPTION OR RESPONSE TIMES OR THINGS WHERE, UH, THERE'S A CALCULATED METRIC, THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE WANT TO HEAD SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AND HOW IS THAT METRIC TRENDING OVER TIME. THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL ONCE WE CAN GET ENOUGH OF THESE QUARTERLY REPORTS UNDER OUR BELT TO, TO, TO HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON THE DATA AT HAND. WELL, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD EIGHT YEARS TO LEARN FROM THIS. UM, SO THOSE METRICS SHOULD BE WELL DEFINED AND ESTABLISHED ON REPORTS THAT WERE OR WEREN'T GIVEN OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GET AN ANNUAL ASSESSMENT AS WELL, RIGHT? OR IS IT ONLY GONNA BE QUARTERLY? YEAH, SO THERE'S AN ANNUAL REPORT THAT THAT WOULD BE EXPECTED AS WELL. AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD, COULD LOOK LIKE A LOT OF THINGS, BUT AT A MINIMUM THERE WOULD BE FOUR QUARTERLY REPORTS, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY THAT WOULD SORT OF SUM UP TO AN ANNUAL REPORT AS WELL AS, UH, SONOMA CA, OR EXCUSE ME, UH, SONOMA HUMANE WILL, UH, GIVE US THEIR AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AS WELL AS THEIR FORM NINE 90, UH, SUBMITTALS TO THE IRS. SO THAT WHOLE PACKAGE IS EFFECTIVELY AN ANNUAL REPORT. AND, UM, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD WELCOME, YOU KNOW, ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, INFORMATION OR REPORTING FROM THEM AS WELL. SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET A LOT MORE OFTEN, MORE REGULARLY, AND THAT, UH, WILL BE ULTIMATELY WAY MORE HELPFUL, UH, I THINK, THAN AN ANNUAL REPORT THAT MIGHT BE EXTREMELY LATE IN COMING TO YOU. SO THE MORE TIMELY THE INFORMATION, THE BETTER DECISIONS CAN BE MADE IN TERMS OF IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE KIND OF GETTING DOWN TO THE DOLLARS OF IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, YES, THERE ARE CHECK-INS IN TERMS OF THE BUDGETS FOR BOTH ORGANIZATIONS. AS I MENTIONED, SON COUNTY IS ANNUAL BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT, UH, WHAT ARE THE CONTRACTED STAFF INCREASES WITH THEIR BARGAINING UNITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT ON THE GOVERNMENT SIDE. BUT, UM, SYN HUMANE, WE HAVE THAT INITIAL ONE YEAR, NINE MONTH CONTRACT TO GET US THROUGH 2028, AND THEN IF WE WANTED TO CONTINUE, WE WOULD HAVE A, A CONVERSATION AND RE-LOOK AT THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WORKING, WHAT'S NOT, DO WE NEED TO GO UP OR DOWN IN TERMS OF SERVICE AND THEN, UH, ESTABLISH A NEW BUDGET FOR THAT RENEWAL PERIOD. YEAH, I GUESS WHAT I'M WONDERING IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS, WE GET THOSE ANNUAL AUDITS AND REPORTS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC. I MEAN, THEN THAT'S, I I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SEE. SO [05:55:01] I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT SORT OF PRESENTATION IS THAT GOING TO BE WHERE THERE'S ACTUAL DIALOGUE AND COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH? WE COULD DO THAT FOR THE ANNUAL REPORT. YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS WITH THE ANNUAL REPORT. UM, AND THEN I, I MIGHT'VE MISSED IT, BUT ARE THERE GOING TO BE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS AND I, I DIDN'T NOTICE THEM IN THE SCOPE OF SERVICE, UM, AGAIN, UNLESS I MISSED IT, BUT FOR POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS DOGS OR DANGEROUS DOGS, UM, I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF SCRUTINY AROUND BITE, BITE CASES, SIMILAR THINGS. UM, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO AS FAR AS ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS? YES, WE ABSOLUTELY, THAT WOULD BE, UM, MOSTLY ON THE PURVIEW OF SON COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES. SO THEY ARE, THEY'RE ON THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE, SO IF THEY DO RESPOND TO A CALL, THERE IS A DANGEROUS DOG, THERE'S A, A, YOU KNOW, A BITE INVESTIGATION THAT OCCURS, THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR KIND OF TAKING THAT THROUGH CRADLE TO GRAVE IN TERMS OF DOING THE INVESTING, THE INITIAL REPORT, DOING THE INVESTIGATION, UH, QUARANTINING THE ANIMAL IF NEEDED, AND THEN, UH, PLACING THE, UH, THE PRELIMINARY ABATEMENT ORDER, WHICH BASICALLY OUTLINES ALL THE DIFFERENT SANCTIONS THAT THAT ANIMAL OWNER HAS TO ABIDE BY. AND THEN, UM, IN OUR CODE, THERE IS A REQUIRED HEARING. SO FOR EACH OF THOSE, THERE WOULD BE A HEARING NOW, UH, THAT WE, WE HAVE TRADITIONALLY GIVEN FOLKS THE OPTION TO WAIVE THE HEARING, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT THOSE SANCTIONS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE UNDER THE, UH, PROVISIONAL ABATEMENT ORDER WOULD JUST CONTINUE FOR THE MANDATORY PERIOD THAT THEY HAVE TO BE IN PLACE FOR. SO, YES, BUT, BUT THE, THE SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES, THERE WILL BE HEARINGS AND THEY'LL BE ADMINISTERED BY SONOMA COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES. NOW, UH, WE HAVE DONE SEVERAL OF THESE OVER THE SUMMERTIME. WE'VE HAD, I THINK THREE OVER THE LAST, SAY TWO MONTHS. THEY DO COME THROUGH THE CITY. UH, WE DO USE OUR ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICERS THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS CONTRACTED WITH. AND SO THAT'S THE NEUTRAL THIRD PARTY HEARING OFFICER THAT HEARS THE CASE AND THEN MAKES THE DECISION. I WAS GONNA ASK IF THERE'S A THIRD PARTY INVOLVED. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. AND THEN I GUESS MY LAST QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU, THE TRANSITION IS CONCLUDED WITH NBAS, SO RIGHT, OR IS IT, BECAUSE I'M CURIOUS ABOUT, ABOUT THE TRUCK AND THE FATE OF THE TRUCK. I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS YOUR INITIAL QUESTION? I, WELL, YOU, YOU HAD MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS TRANSITION FROM NBAS TO NOW SONOMA COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES IS, IS IT CONCLUDED OR ARE WE STILL DEALING WITH THAT BESIDES AN INVESTIGATION? WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT. WE ARE REVIEWING SOME OF THE FINANCIAL DATA, AS I THINK I MENTIONED LAST TIME. WE'RE HAVING AN OUTSIDE ACCOUNTING FIRM LOOK AT SOME OF THAT. UH, SO WE ARE STILL KIND OF IN A HOLDING PATTERN UNTIL WE CAN GET THE, THE FINALIZED, THE FINAL QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND DATA BACK AND, UH, RESPONSES TO QUESTIONS BACK FROM NBAS. SO THAT IS STILL SITTING OUT THERE, BUT WE HAVE, WE, WE KNOW WHAT SOME OF THE DOLLARS ARE FOR THE TRUCK AS AN, AS AN EXAMPLE, AND SOME OF THE OTHER EQUIPMENT. I THINK AS WE, WE MENTIONED IN AN EMAIL TO COUNCIL, UH, OR A COMMUNICATION TO COUNCIL THAT WE DO HAVE EQUIPMENT KIND OF GOING BOTH DIRECTIONS. THERE IS SOME EQUIPMENT THAT WE WANTED TO RETAIN THAT WAS OWNED BY NBAS, AND THEN WE AGREED TO, UH, TO SELL SOME EQUIPMENT TO NBAS SO THAT THAT CRISSCROSS OF EQUIPMENT, UH, WON'T BE FINALIZED UNTIL WE SORT OF OFFICIALLY SAY THE AGREEMENT IS CLOSED OUT AND, AND WE'RE DONE. O OKAY. BUT THEY STILL DO HAVE EQUIPMENT REGISTERED TO THE CITY? INSURED TO THE CITY? THEY DO, OR, UH, THEY, THEY DO. HOWEVER, THEY DID SIGN A RELEASE OF LIABILITY FOR THAT EQUIPMENT, AND THEY HAVE REMOVED THE LICENSE PLATES FROM ANY OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT HAD LICENSE PLATES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. THANK YOU. YEAH. TO PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE. AT THIS TIME, I WILL START A 32ND CLOCK MAYBE. UH, AND DURING THESE 30 SECONDS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING IN PERSON SHOULD BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO MY DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ATTENDING ONLINE SHOULD RAISE THEIR VIRTUAL HAND, AND THOSE ATTENDING VIA PHONE SHOULD PRESS NINE TO RAISE THEIR HAND. SPEAKER REQUEST RECEIVED AFTER THESE 30 SECONDS, UH, MAY NOT BE ACCOMMODATED. UH, WE DID RECEIVE ONE COMMENT, UH, UH, AHEAD OF THE MEETING, AND THAT'S POSTED ONLINE, AND WE HAVE SEVEN FOLKS STILL HANGING OUT WITH US ON ZOOM. FIRST SPEAKER TONIGHT IS SIERRA MORANZ TO BE FOLLOWED BY TYLER TERRELL. ALL RIGHT, SO I'M BACK [06:00:01] AGAIN. I SUPPORT THE CITY IN MOVING TO SONOMA COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES AS THEIR NEW ANIMAL CONTROL PROVIDER, BUT THE CITY HAS NEGLECTED TO INCLUDE SOME IMPORTANT ITEMS. THE LACK OF REQUIREMENTS ABOUT DANGEROUS DOGS AND ABATEMENTS IS NOTABLY MISSING. WHAT YOU'RE EFFECTIVELY DOING IS SETTING THE STAGE TO FURTHER WEAKEN PUBLIC SAFETY AND DEPRIVE CITIZENS AS DUE OF DUE PROCESS LIKE THE GRAND JURY FOUND. WHEN YOU KNOW HOW TERRIBLY CASES LIKE MINE HAVE BEEN HANDLED BY BOTH YOUR SERVICE PROVIDERS AND BY CITY STAFF, YOU SHOULD BE ACTIVELY WORKING TO STRENGTHEN ABATEMENT PROTOCOLS DOING OTHERWISE IS SHAMEFUL. AS YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH SONOMA COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES, IT'S TIME FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE A MORE ACTIVE ROLE IN OVERSEEING BOTH YOUR CONTRACTOR AND STAFF ON ANIMAL SERVICES RELATED TOPICS. INVESTIGATION INTO N-B-A-S-S ASIDE, IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT GAS IS DOING A FULL INVESTIGATION OF ONGOING CASES AND THAT CITY STAFF IS GIVING THEM THE ATTENTION AND TIMELY RESPONSE THAT THEY DESERVE. YOU'VE GOT PLENTY TO PICK FROM, PICK FROM REPEAT OFFENDER ANIMALS, ANIMALS WHO BIT CHILDREN, ANIMALS WHOSE RABIES VACCINATION IS HISTORY IS UNCLEAR AND MORE. THE CITY HAS ALL THESE RECORDS AND MANY MORE. ALSO, MANY OF THOSE ANIMALS ARE STILL IN PETALUMA WITHOUT ABATEMENTS OR IN ACT, OR, SORRY, I'M VERY TIRED, UH, WITHOUT ABATEMENTS OR ACTIONS THAT WOULD MITIGATE, MITIGATE RISK OF FUTURE INCIDENTS. KEEP IN MIND THAT PETALUMA HAS BEEN EXTREMELY LUCKY OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, AND IT'S NOT WORTH PUSHING YOUR LUCK. NOW, A MAN IN CLEAR LAKE DIED IN AUGUST AFTER BEING ATTACKED BY A DOG AND A WOMAN IN SAN FRANCISCO RECEIVED LIFE-THREATENING INJURIES THIS MONTH. AS YOU ALL KNOW AND HAVE SEEN THE PICTURES, IF MY INJURIES HAD BEEN SIX INCHES HIGHER, I WOULD'VE BEEN ONE OF THOSE VICTIMS ON THE RABIES FRONT. A DOMESTIC CAT IN ALAMEDA COUNTY WAS EUTHANIZED THIS SUMMER AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR RABIES. AND THE COUNTY OF SONOMA HAS RECORDED SIX CASES OF RABIES SO FAR THIS YEAR. IF YOU AREN'T MOVED BY THE POTENTIAL THREATS TO PUBLIC SAFETY, I'D ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE POTENTIAL LIABILITY YOU COULD INCUR FINALLY, TO MAKE SURE THIS STAYS ON TOP OF MIND AND TO START TO GAIN ANY TRUST BACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. IT IS TIME TO RESTART THE ANIMAL SERVICES COMMITTEE. PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO BRING THEIR CONCERNS TO THE, ABOUT THE PROVIDER AND ABOUT THE CITY TO A REGULAR FORUM AS SENDING EMAILS TO STAFF AND YOUR PRIOR PROVIDERS HASN'T BEEN SUFFICIENT. AND YOU NEED TO ALSO BE INFORMED AND BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR SONOMA COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES AND SONOMA HUMANE TO BE ABLE TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY, PROVIDE UPDATES IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY, AND FIND WAYS TO IMPROVE IF SOMETHING ISN'T GOING WELL. I APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENTS ABOUT NOT SWEEPING THINGS UNDER THE RUG, BUT YOU HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, TYLER TERRELL TO BE FOLLOWED BY JEFF CHARTER. HI. HELLO AND GOOD MORNING. THE CITY OF PETALUMA'S RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ADMINISTER THE ANIMAL CONTROL. CONTRACTED SERVICES WERE BEING DELIVERED AS AGREED UPON AND PROTECT THE CITY'S INTEREST. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT RESPONSIBILITY WAS NOT FULFILLED. THE INTEREST OF THE CITY AND THE WELFARE OF THE ANIMAL SHOULD BE ALIGNED. BUT IN THE PAST, THEY APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN TREATED AS SEPARATE PRIORITIES. THE CITY OF PETALUMA FAILED TO PROPERLY COLLECT AND RETAIN DOCUMENTATION REGARDING DOG BITE INCIDENTS. AS A RESULT, VICTIMS WERE UNABLE TO ACCESS CRITICAL INFORMATION NEEDED FOR FURTHER ACTION, AND THE CITY WAS UNABLE TO ADEQUATELY EVALUATE WHETHER ITS ANIMAL CONTROL PROVIDER WAS COMPLYING WITH THE PENA MUNICIPAL CODE. THE GRAND JURY DOCUMENTED THAT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND CITY ATTORNEY CONFIRMED THAT NO ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS HAD BEEN CONDUCTED TO ESTABLISH ABATEMENT CONDITIONS, EVEN IN CASES INVOLVING PERSONAL INJURY, EVEN THOUGH IT IS CITY CODE. ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE FAILED TO CREATE AN EFFECTIVE SYSTEM FOR DOCUMENTING AND RESPONDING TO CITIZENS' COMPLAINTS. THIS RESULTED IN MISSED OPPORTUNITIES TO HEAR COMMUNITY CONCERNS AND RESPOND APPROPRIATELY. IT ALSO REPRESENTED A FAILURE TO FULFILL ITS FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY TO REVIEW THE FINANCIAL STABILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY OF NBAS. TO DATE, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND MAYOR KEVIN McDonnell HAVE NOT ORDERED A FORENSIC AUDIT OF THE PREVIOUS ANIMAL SERVICES. UM, UM, PETAL AND RESIDENTS DESERVE STRONG OVERSIGHT, INCLUDING AN ANIMAL SERVICES INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE. THIS WORKED IN THE PAST. IT CLEARLY [06:05:01] DID NOT WORK THE LAST EIGHT YEARS WITHOUT ONE PETAL RESIDENT RESIDENTS ALSO DESERVE A CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THAT ACTIVELY LISTENS AND RESPONDS TO RESIDENTS WITH RESPECT, ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO TAKE CITIZEN CONCERN SERIOUSLY, AND A THOROUGH FORENSIC AUDIT OF N BS S. AGAIN, THESE ARE THE ISSUES VOTERS SHOULD CONSIDER WHEN CHOOSING THE REPRESENTATIVES THIS NOVEMBER. AND I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK VICE MAYOR DE CARLY AND REBS FOR YOUR TIME WITH ANIMAL ADVOCATES AND LISTENING TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL BUILT THIS COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL BEFORE OVER THE EIGHT YEARS DID NOT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JEFF CHARTER TO BE FOLLOWED BY AMY TAYLOR. WELL, I HAD A DIFFERENT TOPIC THAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS TONIGHT, BUT YOUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER STOOD UP HERE AND TOLD YOU MANY, MANY LIES OF OMISSION. TOLD YOU THAT WE HAVE ALL THESE NEW THINGS, THESE NEW THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BE MORE ROBUST IN THE REPORTING THAT, UH, COMPLAINT TRACKING IS INCLUDED. NOW, LIKE A NEWS FOR YOU, NORTH BAY INCLUDED THAT IN THE 2018 RFP RESPONSE THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO YOU. YOU JUST DIDN'T ASK FOR IT. OKAY? THE REPORTING, THE QUARTERLY REPORTING, THE YEARLY REPORTING WAS ALL THERE ALL ALONG. YOU JUST DIDN'T ASK FOR IT, BRIAN. 'CAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW. 'CAUSE YOU HELPED COVER IT UP FOR EIGHT YEARS. EIGHT YEARS. THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS IMPORTANT. I CAME HERE FOR YEARS, 15 YEARS AND TALKED TO THAT COMMITTEE, TALKED TO THE PEOPLE, TALKED TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS TOWN WHO HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER. IT'S ALL BEEN AVAILABLE TO YOU. YOU JUST DON'T ASK. YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE YOU SHUT THAT COMMITTEE DOWN. YOU DID. THAT WAS YOUR DECISION. YOU MADE THE DECISIONS NOT TO ASK. THIS COUNCIL HAS MADE A DECISION TO ACCEPT THOSE LIES. LET'S FOCUS ON THE FUTURE. LET'S ACT LIKE IT WASN'T THERE ALL ALONG. IT HAS BEEN START TO FINISH. YOU FAILED. AND WHEN STAFF FAILS AND CREATES A SITUATION THAT COSTS YOU A MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF YOUR GENERAL FUND TO FIX, SOMEONE SHOULD BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT. AND THEY'RE SITTING HERE TONIGHT. AMY TAYLOR, TO BE FOLLOWED BY MARK KIMBERLY. I CAME HERE TO TALK ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY. WHEN I CAME HERE IN FEBRUARY, I WAS SO HOPEFUL. THE CLEAR LAKE PICTURES HAD ME ON THE NEXT LEVEL OF RAGE. I MADE A SIGN, I SAT HERE AND I WAITED TO SPEAK. I JUST FIGURED THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT SOMEBODY WOULD TAKE BECAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT I WAS DOING. I THOUGHT FOR SURE THAT MARK SCOTT WOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. HE WAS IN CHARGE OF NORTH BAY ANIMAL SER SERVICES. SO TO ME, IT WAS QUITE CLEAR. I CAME BACK IN MARCH, THE MEETING THAT NORTH BAY ANIMAL SERVICES WAS VOTED OUT. GREAT. NOW THEY WILL HOLD MARK SCOTT ACCOUNTABLE. NOPE, THE MAYOR KEVIN PROCLAIMS, WE WILL GET THOSE RECORDS EVEN IF THE POLICE NEED TO BE INVOLVED. WHAT HAPPENED? NOTHING. NO RECORDS, NO ACCOUNTABILITY. AND HERE WE ARE. HAVE A TRUCK. NOW, FORMER EMPLOYEES ARE FACING IRS ISSUES. THESE ARE YOUNG WOMEN THAT STARTED THEIR CAREER AND NOW HAVE THE IRS ON THEIR BACK BECAUSE OF MARK SCOTT AND HIS FAILURE TO BOOKKEEP ANYTHING. THE MEETINGS THAT FOLLOWED WHISTLEBLOWERS SPOKE. THE SPEECHES WERE READ, BITE VICTIMS CAME FORWARD. RABIES WAS DISCUSSED. EVEN JANICE Cader Thompson PROCLAIMED AFTER HER DAUGHTER WAS BIT BY A DOG. FORTUNATELY THE DOG DIDN'T HAVE RABIES. FOR SURE. SOMEBODY NOW WOULD HOLD MARK SCOTT ACCOUNTABLE. NOPE. BRIAN BARNACLE AGREED TO A FORENSIC AUDIT. THERE WILL BE AN AUDIT HE PROCLAIMED MARCH OF 2026. WELL, WHAT HAPPENED, BRIAN? NO ACCOUNTABILITY, NO RELEASE OF PUBLIC RECORDS. WE CAN ALL SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. AND YES, WE ALL WANNA MOVE FORWARD. I GET IT. WE ALL WANNA MOVE FORWARD, TRUST ME. BUT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT THIS HAS AFFECTED BITE [06:10:01] VICTIMS, PE I MEAN MULTIPLE PEOPLE, THE CLEAR LAKE DOGS, THIS HAS AFFECTED PEOPLE'S LIVES. BUT YET THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY. LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD. IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE TO SOMEBODY WHO THOUGHT THEY COULD COME HERE AND JUST SAY THERE'S A PROBLEM AND YOU NEED TO SOLVE IT. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAID AND I WAS SO HOPEFUL. AND THEN OVER ALL THESE MONTHS, I'VE LEARNED SO MANY THINGS THAT I REALLY DIDN'T WANNA LEARN ABOUT. I DIDN'T WANNA KNOW THAT THIS WAS SO POLITICAL AND THAT MARK SCOTT'S JUST LAYING HIS HEAD DOWN RIGHT NOW WHILE WE'RE ALL SITTING HERE AT ONE IN THE MORNING TRYING TO FIGHT FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE IS RIGHT. AND MARK SCOTT NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. AND YOU NEED TO DO A FORENSIC AUDIT, MARK KIMBERLY TO BE FOLLOWED BY CYNTHIA KING. NOW THAT YOU FIRED THE OLD SERVICES PROVIDER AND YOU'RE HIRING A NEW ONE, YOU MIGHT THINK IT'S ALL JUST WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE. IT ISN'T. JUSTICE HASN'T BEEN DONE. SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR EIGHT YEARS OF THE NIGHTMARE OF NORTH BAY ANIMAL SERVICES ABUSE, ANIMAL ABUSE AND EMBEZZLEMENT. WE CAN'T TRUST YOU TO PROVIDE ANY BETTER OVERSIGHT OF THE NEW PROVIDER THAN YOU DID WITH THE LAST. YOU HAVE A HISTORY OF DISHONESTY AND COVERING UP. LET'S LOOK AT A FEW EXAMPLES. DURING KEVIN'S LAST CAMPAIGN, HE SET UP A WEBSITE WHERE CITIZENS COULD WRITE IN AND ASK QUESTIONS. I WROTE IN, I LISTED ALL THE ALLEGATIONS BEING LEVELED, UM, AGAINST NBAS. AND I ASKED IF HE WOULD INVESTIGATE THAT WERE HE ELECTED? HE WROTE BACK, SAID HE HAD ALREADY INVESTIGATED THAT AND FOUND ALL THE ALLEGATIONS TO BE FALSE. BUT THAT WAS A LIE. KEVIN, I HAVE HERE AN EMAIL FROM HIM TO PEGGY WITH A COPY OF MY MESSAGE. AND HE SAID TO HER QUOTE, I WAS SENT THE FOLLOWING. I WANT TO SAY THAT IT'S ALL BEEN CHECKED OUT AND IT IS FINE. IS THAT CORRECT, PEGGY? THANKS. HE NEVER INVESTIGATED A SINGLE THING. HE SIMPLY ASKED HIS HANDLER WHAT TO SAY AND SHE TOLD HIM TO LIE TO ME AND HE DID IT. THIS PROVES NOT ONLY THAT HE IS A LIAR, BUT THAT MEANS THERE'S A CONSPIRACY BETWEEN HIM AND PEGGY THE OTHER LIAR TO COVER UP AND LIE TO THE CITIZENS. BUT IT'S NOT JUST THEM. BRIAN COCHRAN, YOU WERE IN ON IT TOO. HERE'S ANOTHER EMAIL I'VE GOT THAT HE SENT TO MANY CITIZENS WHO INQUIRED. HE SAID IN PART QUOTE, CITY STAFF ARE SUPPORTIVE OF NBAS EFFORTS IN PETALUMA AND FEEL THAT THEY'RE PERFORMING HIGH QUALITY SERVICES. MANY OF THE ALLEGATIONS ARE FACTUALLY INACCURATE. END QUOTE. BUT HE NEVER INVESTIGATED A DAMN THING. BUT ON THE ORDER OF HIS BOSS, PEGGY FLYNN, HE DENIED ALL THE ALLEGATIONS TOO. NOW IT'S A THREE CONSPIRACY. IT DOESN'T STOP THERE. I'VE GOT ANOTHER EMAIL FROM THERESA BARRETT TO SAMANTHA PASCO ON THE SUBJECT OF A CITIZEN'S REQUEST FOR PUBLIC RECORDS ABOUT THAT SHELTER. SHE SAID, QUOTE, SAM, CAN I GET A CONFIRMATION THAT MY EMAILS HAVE BEEN CALLED FROM MY ACCOUNT ON BOTH DISC PRA REQUEST AND THE ONE REGARDING THE NAME REDACTED END QUOTE. SO NOT ONLY DOES CITY HALL LIE TO US, THEY ALSO DESTROY INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE. AND CHECK THIS OUT. WHEN A PRIVATE CITIZEN HAD A LAWSUIT GOING AGAINST THE ANIMAL SHELTER, NOT THE CITY, JUST THE SHELTER, THE CITY WAS SO WORRIED ABOUT THE TRUTH COMING OUT, THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAD A CITY ATTORNEY CONTACT THE DEFENDANT'S ATTORNEY AND ASK TO CONSULT WITH THEM ABOUT THAT PRIVATE CITIZEN'S. THE EMAIL THAT I HAVE SAYS IN PART, DO YOU HAVE A FEW MINUTES TO DISCUSS THE STATUS OF NAME REDACTED LAWSUIT AGAINST NBAS? HE SERVES US WITH SEVERAL PRAS AND IS THREATENED TO DEPOSE OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, UM, UH, CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY. SO IT WOULD BE GOOD TO TOUCH BASE. THANK YOU. NO CITY WOULD DO THAT UNLESS THEY HAD A LOT TO HIDE AND YOU HAVE A LOT TO HIDE. THANK YOU. OUR LAST SPEAKER IS CYNTHIA KING. HELLO AGAIN. UM, I DON'T USUALLY READ THINGS, BUT I'M GLAD I HAVE THIS WRITTEN 'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE I COULD BE COHERENT OTHERWISE. UM, AS WE BUILD THIS PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND COMMUNITY AT PETALUMA, WE WANNA FIRST EXPRESS OUR DEEP APPRECIATION FOR MARIN HUMANE AND THE DIFFICULT WORK THEY'VE DONE OVER THE PAST FOUR MONTHS TO MAINTAIN AND IMPROVED SHELTER SERVICES AND ANIMAL CONTROL. WE ALSO LOOK FORWARD TO EXPANDING OUR STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH SCS THAT WE HAVE IN HEALDSBURG AND TO COLLABORATE WITH FORGOTTEN FELINES. THIS KIND OF COLLABORATION AND ALIGNMENT ADDRESSES SOME OF THE GRAND JURY CONCERNS IN THEIR REPORT. EARLIER TODAY, THE COUNCIL ASKED FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MY AGENCY IS HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THE ASSOCIATION OF SHELTER VET STANDARDS OR THE A SV [06:15:01] STANDARDS. THE REALITY IS THAT CALIFORNIA DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A STATE AGENCY THAT REGULATES ANIMAL SHELTERS OR RESCUES BEYOND A LIMITED NUMBER OF STATE LAWS AND LOCAL CODES. MOST ANIMAL CARE STANDARDS ARE VOLUNTARY. THE ONLY EXTERNAL OVERSIGHT. OUR ORGANIZATION COMES FROM THE CALIFORNIA VETERINARY MEDICAL BOARD, WHICH OVERSEES OUR VETERINARY MEDICINE, BUT NOT THE OVERALL SHELTER OPERATIONS. HONESTLY, MY NONPROFIT BACKGROUND DID NOT PREPARE ME FOR THE REALITY THAT F FACILITIES, FACILITIES, HOUSING, YOU KNOW, A HANDFUL OR HUNDREDS OF ANIMALS OPERATE WITHOUT ROUTINE LICENSING. AFTER YEARS OF WORK IN OTHER FIELDS WITH FEDERAL, STATE AND COUNTY OVERSIGHT, I WAS SHOCKED TO LEARN THAT MY RESPONSIBILITY FOR TWO FACILITIES CAPABLE OF HOUSING UP TO 300 ANIMALS AT A TIME REQUIRES NEITHER LICENSING NOR ROUTINE INSPEC INSPECTIONS. THAT SHOULD CONCERN ALL OF US BECAUSE THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT ANIMAL WELFARE, IT'S ALSO A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE INVOLVING SANITATION, DISEASE PREVENTION, AND COMMUNITY SAFETY. THE CATASTROPHIC FAILURES REVEALED THROUGH CLEAR LAKE AND MIRANDAS ILLUSTRATES THE URGENT NEED FOR STATEWIDE OVERSIGHT. AND THAT THIS ISSUE EXTENDS FAR BEYOND JUST PETALUMA OR OUR REGION LEGISLATION PROPOSED BY CAL ANIMALS. OUR STATEWIDE ORGANIZATION WOULD ESTABLISH A STATE BUREAU RESPONSIBLE FOR LICENSING INSPECTIONS AND DATA REPORTING. WE ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS, ORGANIZATIONS, AND ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO SUPPORT THIS REFORM. FINALLY, I APPRECIATE YOUR EARLIER STATEMENT ABOUT COMMITTING TO ACCOUNTABILITY. WE SHARE THAT COMMITMENT. I CAN TELL YOU WITH CONFIDENCE THAT WE RUN ONE OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY SHELTERS IN THE STATE BECAUSE OF OUR EXCELLENT STAFF, THE HELP AND THE HELP THEY RECEIVE FROM THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING VOLUNTEERS, ADOPTERS, AND FUNDERS. MY TEAM HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB PREPARING FOR THIS TRANSITION AND WE ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONTRACT, REOPEN THE SHELTER, AND SERVE THE ANIMALS AND PEOPLE OF PETALUMA. WE APPRECIATE THE CITY'S PARTNERSHIP INSUR IN ENSURING THAT OUR CAPACITY AND THE FACILITY MEET THE STANDARDS THAT BOTH THE CITY AND THE HUMANE SOCIETY HAVE COMMITTED TO UPHOLD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND OVER TO THE CLERK? YES, WE DO HAVE ONE REMOTE COMMENTER, UH, SAIL WHITE. IF YOU COULD UNMUTE YOURSELF AND MAKE YOUR COMMENT SALE. ARE YOU ABLE TO UNMUTE? HELLO? YES, I'M UNMUTED. AND ACTUALLY I WAS NOT INTENDING TO COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE. I WAS INTENDING TO COMMENT ON THE PREVIOUS ISSUE AND I'M REALLY, REALLY ACTUALLY QUITE UPSET THAT I WASN'T ALLOWED TO COMMENT EARLIER WHEN I INITIALLY RAISED MY HAND BECAUSE I HAD A LOT TO SAY ABOUT ZONING. UM, UH, UNFORTUNATELY YOU FAILED TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND I, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE MY COMMENT NOW, WHICH WAS THAT I VERY, VERY MUCH SUPPORTED WHAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, DI, CARLY AND REBS HAD TO SAY ABOUT ZONING. OKAY. SO, AND UM, AND ALSO I'M REALLY HOPING THAT EVERYONE WAS ABLE TO READ DARREN REIN'S, UM, PDF FILE REGARDING ZONING BECAUSE I'M THIS, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, THE, THAT ITEM HAS BEEN CLOSED AND WE'RE ON THE NEXT ITEM AND THE COMMENT DOESN'T TRAVEL FROM. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO ADD ON THIS ITEM? NO, THERE'S NOTHING I WISH TO ADD ON THIS ITEM. I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT THIS ITEM. OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU FAILED. THANK YOU. GOODNIGHT. AND WITH THAT, UH, THAT WAS OUR LAST SPEAKER ON THE, UM, PUBLIC SIDE. AND WE CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRING IT BACK UP TO COUNCIL. ANY COMMENT FROM COUNCIL? COUNCIL MEMBER DI CARLY? SO I THINK THE MISTAKES AND THINGS THAT WENT VERY, VERY WRONG WERE CONTRACT BASED. WERE NOT CONTRACT BASED, BUT WERE HUMAN BASED AND SO WE CAN HAVE AN AIRTIGHT, AIRTIGHT CONTRACT, BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER UNLESS THE CITY REMAINS ACCOUNTABLE TO UPHOLDING THAT CONTRACT. AND I HAVEN'T SEEN IT DEMONSTRATED THAT ANYTHING IS GOING TO ACTUALLY CHANGE FROM THE CITY SIDE BECAUSE THE, THE STORY WITH NBAS HAS BEEN SWEPT UNDER THE RUG. SO, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THIS CONTRACT. I THINK THE CONTRACT IS FINE AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY. BUT, UM, I THINK THE PROBLEM LIES ON THIS SIDE OF THE FENCE, SO THANK YOU. ANY, ANY, UM, MOTION? ANYONE? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. AM I READING THE, THE RESOLUTION? UH, I THINK, UH, IT'S SUFFICIENT TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION FOR THE RESOLUTION LISTED IN THE PACKET OF THE CITY COUNCIL [06:20:02] OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA APPROVING AGREEMENTS WITH SONOMA COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES AND HUMANE SOCIETY OF SONOMA COUNTY FOR ANIMAL FIELD SHELTERING VETERINARY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S THE, I SECOND THAT MOTION BY NOW. SECOND BY, UH, Cader Thompson. AND ROLL CALL VOTE BARNACLE. AYE. Cader Thompson? YES. TO CARLY? YES. NOW YES. QUINT? YES. SHRIVES? YES. McDonnell? YES. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TILL THIS HOUR OF THE EVENING. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.