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mar, 19 de mayo de 2026
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RESUMEN DE REUNIÓNGenerado por IA
Comisión Aeroportuaria de Petaluma — 19 de mayo de 2026
Esta fue una reunión ordinaria de la Comisión Aeroportuaria celebrada con quórum reducido (los comisionados Anna y Marcus estaban ausentes). La sesión estuvo dominada por una presentación detallada sobre el próximo Proyecto de Rehabilitación de la Calle de Rodaje A e incluyó comentarios sustanciales del público por parte de los principales arrendatarios del aeropuerto.
Proyecto de Rehabilitación de la Calle de Rodaje A — Presentación y Debate
El personal del aeropuerto — encabezado por la Directora Asistente Gina (apellido no registrado en la transcripción) y el Ingeniero Principal/Director de Proyecto Josh Minshaw — presentó el estado actual y el borrador del calendario de construcción del Proyecto de Rehabilitación de la Calle de Rodaje A. Un segundo proyecto relacionado, la Rehabilitación del Carril de Rodaje B, seguirá inmediatamente después.
Antecedentes: Una evaluación del pavimento realizada en 2017 determinó que tanto la Calle de Rodaje A como el Carril de Rodaje B se encontraban en muy mal estado. El deterioro se concentra en los bordes, donde el suelo de arcilla adobe nunca fue estabilizado correctamente — el tratamiento original de humedad no funcionó. La solución requiere excavar aproximadamente 10 pies a cada lado de la calle de rodaje, mezclar el material extraído con tratamiento de cemento in situ (en dos capas), dejar que cure y luego recubrir toda la calle de rodaje con pavimento nuevo. El contratista Gel Brothers de San Rafael obtuvo el contrato otorgado por el Concejo Municipal en noviembre. La empresa consultora de diseño Mead and Hunt apoya el proyecto.
Por qué debe cerrarse la pista: Cinco calles de rodaje de conexión unen la Calle de Rodaje A con la pista. Los trabajos en los extremos de esos conectores del lado de la pista se encuentran dentro de un Área de Seguridad de Objetos regulada por la FAA, y las normas de la FAA exigen el cierre de la pista siempre que haya equipo de construcción o excavaciones abiertas en esa zona. No existe solución alternativa — ni siquiera un acceso alterno temporal — porque una excavación de más de 30 pulgadas de profundidad no puede dejarse abierta en la zona de seguridad, y la construcción de un camino temporal requeriría por sí misma cierres adicionales.
Borrador del calendario (aún no finalizado):
Movilización de la construcción/trabajos preparatorios: antes del 15 de junio
Inicio de la construcción (comienzo de la excavación): 15 de junio
Calle de Rodaje A cerrada: del 15 de junio hasta aproximadamente el 24 de julio
Primer cierre de pista: 22–26 de junio (lunes a viernes, 5 días) — para trabajos de tratamiento de cemento cerca de los conectores
Pausa de dos semanas (curado del cemento + franja de prueba de pavimentación en la calle de rodaje); la pista reabre; esta pausa abarca intencionalmente el feriado del Cuatro de Julio para que la pista permanezca abierta durante ese período
Segundo cierre de pista: 13–17 de julio (lunes a viernes, 5 días) — para la fase de pavimentación cerca de los conectores
Lista de pendientes/finalización de señalización: aproximadamente el 4 de septiembre
El personal subrayó que el calendario sigue siendo un borrador pendiente de confirmación final por parte de los subcontratistas de Gel Brothers. El contrato original permitía hasta 23 días en total de cierre de pista; mediante negociaciones iterativas, el personal logró reducir ese número a 10 días. El horario estándar de trabajo es de 7 a.m. a 4 p.m., con posibilidad de horario extendido (con aprobación por escrito) durante los períodos de cierre para comprimir el cronograma. Por el momento no se planea ningún trabajo de pavimentación nocturno, aunque sí se anticipa cierta actividad vespertina.
Debate de la Comisión se centró en: la estructura de la oferta alternativa (la FAA indicó inicialmente que podría no financiar la longitud completa del proyecto, por lo que se dividió en una oferta base y una alternativa; la FAA finalmente financió ambas); la importancia de actualizar los NOTAMs y el ATIS en cuanto se finalice el calendario; la colocación de señalización física en todas las puertas del aeropuerto; la comunicación proactiva a la lista de distribución de correo electrónico de los arrendatarios; y si el contrato incluye daños y perjuicios liquidados (el personal indicó que lo confirmaría — el contrato sí incluye disposiciones para excedentes más allá de las ventanas de cierre acordadas).
Comentarios del público:
*Mark Ashton* (Petaluma Pilot Training Center, uno de los mayores empleadores del aeropuerto con 13 empleados, 11 instructores de vuelo, 7 aeronaves y aproximadamente 196 vuelos por semana) expresó un fuerte apoyo al proyecto, pero destacó el efecto económico en cadena de los cierres: los instructores no perciben ingresos, los propietarios de aeronaves pierden ganancias, el taller de mantenimiento pierde trabajo y el aeropuerto pierde ventas de combustible. Describió los intentos anteriores de operar desde otros aeropuertos durante los cierres como logísticamente inviables y comercialmente incómodos (invadiendo el territorio de los competidores). Instó a que las comunicaciones fueran oportunas y abundantes, y elogió al personal por comprimir el calendario.
*Ron Mangan* (Mangan Aircraft y Petaluma Pilot Training Center) expresó su preocupación por los retrasos en el calendario, citando el ejemplo de Gnoss Field, donde una rehabilitación de pista de 30 días se extendió a 98 días tras hallarse asbesto inesperado en el material de base. Preguntó si el contrato incluye daños y perjuicios liquidados (incentivos/penalizaciones) para mantener al contratista en el cronograma, si existe un plan de contingencia para los arrendatarios y si la ciudad ofrecería alguna compensación por pérdidas comerciales durante los cierres. El personal respondió que la ciudad no compensa a los arrendatarios por pérdidas comerciales durante los cierres de mantenimiento necesarios — esta ha sido la política consistente — y confirmó que el proyecto incluye disposiciones para recuperación si el contratista excede la ventana de cierre acordada.
El personal se comprometió a: colocar señalización del calendario en las puertas del aeropuerto en cuanto se confirme el calendario final, emitir NOTAMs con suficiente anticipación, actualizar la lista de distribución de los arrendatarios en los hitos clave y considerar la realización de una reunión comunitaria con Mead and Hunt si surgen más preguntas técnicas. El personal también confirmó que se colocarán marcadores de cierre de pista iluminados, exigidos por la FAA, en ambos extremos de la pista durante los períodos de cierre.
Votación: No se realizó votación formal (presentación informativa).
Aprobación de las Actas — 5 de marzo de 2026
Las actas fueron propuestas y secundadas sin debate.
Votación: Aprobadas por unanimidad.
Actualización del Concejo
La representante del concejo señaló que recientemente muy pocos asuntos relacionados con el aeropuerto habían llegado ante el Concejo Municipal. Transmitió la solicitud de un miembro de la comunidad para agradecer al aeropuerto su apoyo a "Flying Tails", un grupo que utilizó el aeropuerto para transportar cachorros de tejón huérfanos a un lugar más seguro.
Actualizaciones de los Subcomités Ad Hoc
No se presentaron actualizaciones sobre los subcomités de Desarrollo de Hangares, Mantenimiento de Hangares ni Política de Lista de Espera de Hangares. El personal señaló que estos temas se mantienen en espera hasta que el nuevo gerente del aeropuerto esté incorporado, y que se espera un debate sustancial en la reunión de julio o agosto.
Comentario de los Comisionados
El Comisionado Tom (apellido no registrado) anunció que la reunión del próximo mes será la última de su mandato, tras incorporarse a la comisión en 1997. Reflexionó sobre la importancia económica del aeropuerto — citando un análisis de 2023 que muestra un impacto económico de $45 millones anuales en Petaluma utilizando la metodología de la AOPA, con aproximadamente 42 empleados en ese momento — y señaló que alrededor de 2005–2006, la AOPA nombró al Aeropuerto Municipal de Petaluma como modelo para aeropuertos de todo el país. Se ofreció a permanecer disponible como recurso informal junto al comisionado retirado Barry Lawrence.
Informe de la Directora Asistente
Puntos principales del informe del personal:
Seguimiento de precios de combustible: El personal presentó un nuevo documento de seguimiento que muestra los cambios en los precios del combustible (tanto combustible para jets como avgas) de Titan Aviation durante los últimos meses, señalando múltiples aumentos desde que se elaboró el documento. El seguimiento se actualizará en lo sucesivo.
Contratación del gerente del aeropuerto: Las verificaciones de antecedentes han concluido. El nuevo gerente del aeropuerto tiene como fecha oficial de inicio el 8 de junio. Ya ha visitado el aeropuerto y se ha reunido con el personal. La directora asistente seguirá apoyando la transición.
Inspecciones de incendios: Se han completado dos rondas de inspecciones de incendios en los hangares arrendados. Las filas 14–18 están pendientes; se notificará a los arrendatarios por correo electrónico la fecha de inspección y podrán estar presentes. Las inspecciones de hangares privados comenzarán a finales de junio. Los hallazgos hasta la fecha son de rutina (objetos colgados de las vigas, detalles menores). Un problema conocido — la necesidad de rociadores contra incendios en algunos hangares comerciales — ya estaba previsto y se está elaborando un plan de trabajo.
Presupuesto CIP para el año fiscal 2026–27 (aprobado por el Concejo Municipal el 12 de mayo): Cinco proyectos CIP del aeropuerto con financiamiento están incluidos en el presupuesto aprobado: Rehabilitación de la Calle de Rodaje A ($2.577M, construcción); Rehabilitación del Carril de Rodaje B ($1.121M, construcción); Mantenimiento del Pavimento de Hangares del Aeropuerto (fase de diseño — probablemente incluye el tratamiento de sellado para las Filas de Hangares 14–18, largamente debatido, que nunca recibió tratamiento original); Mejoras de la Zona de Seguridad (provenientes de la planificación anterior); y Sellado de la Pista ($166K para diseño en el año fiscal 26–27, con ~$1.3M de construcción presupuestado para dos años después). Dos proyectos adicionales — Revestimiento de la Rampa Norte de Hangares (~$1.25M) y Respaldo de Energía de Emergencia del Aeropuerto (~$600K) — figuran en una lista futura sin financiamiento, pendientes de aprobación de fondos.
Rehabilitación de la planta de combustible: Este proyecto ha sido retirado del proceso CIP y será gestionado a través del presupuesto operativo por el equipo de Instalaciones de Obras Públicas, aunque el trabajo seguirá siendo contratado externamente.
Reparación de la puerta del Hangar 18C: Completada. El Concejo Municipal aceptó la finalización del proyecto el 4 de mayo. El hangar ha sido arrendado.
Estudio de viabilidad de hangares: En suspenso hasta la incorporación del nuevo gerente.
Puntos clave
La construcción de la Calle de Rodaje A comienza el 15 de junio, con dos cierres de pista de cinco días planificados: del 22 al 26 de junio y del 13 al 17 de julio. El feriado del Cuatro de Julio se mantiene intencionalmente abierto. El calendario aún está siendo finalizado esta semana.
Los arrendatarios deben estar atentos a su correo electrónico para recibir el calendario definitivo, y pendientes de los NOTAMs y la señalización en las puertas — el personal se comprometió a una comunicación proactiva y continua durante todo el proyecto.
La ciudad no compensará a los arrendatarios por pérdidas comerciales durante los cierres; el personal enmarcó el proyecto como una necesidad de seguridad que protege la viabilidad a largo plazo del aeropuerto.
Un nuevo gerente del aeropuerto comienza el 8 de junio, lo que permitirá avanzar en varios asuntos diferidos (trabajo de los subcomités de hangares, estudio de viabilidad), probablemente en la reunión de julio o agosto.
Cinco proyectos CIP del aeropuerto cuentan ahora con financiamiento en el presupuesto del año fiscal 26–27, desde las rehabilitaciones actuales de calles de rodaje hasta un futuro sellado de la pista, con dos proyectos mayores adicionales (revestimiento de rampa y energía de emergencia) aún en busca de financiamiento.
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Qué ocurrió en esta reunión
Presentation on Taxiway A Rehabilitation Project (Updated 5/19/2026)
# Summary: Presentation on Taxiway A Rehabilitation Project (Updated 5/19/2026)
Staff presented the Taxiway A Rehabilitation Project, explaining that contractor GEL Brothers will address edge cracking through soil excavation and cement stabilization, with construction starting June 15, 2026, and two scheduled runway shutdowns (June 22-26 and July 13-17) with taxiway closure through July 24. Project Manager Josh Minshaw and staff emphasized their coordination efforts with the contractor to minimize disruptions and noted they have refined the schedule over one month to reduce impacts on airport tenants. Public commenters, including Ron Mangan of Petaluma Flight Training Center and Mark Ashton of Helum Pilot Training Center, expressed concerns about business disruption, inadequate advance notice, and potential extended delays based on past construction project overruns, while requesting compensation plans and stronger penalty clauses for contractor delays. Commissioners recommended enhanced communication through signage at all gates, daily updates to the Airport Operations Specialist system, FAA NOTAMs, and a mailing list notification system, while also expressing concerns about loose gravel on open taxiways and requesting deployment of sweeping equipment. Staff clarified that the City cannot provide tenant compensation during closures, confirmed FAA safety regulations require runway closures for the connector work, and indicated the final schedule would be confirmed by week's end, with a total project budget of $2,577,000.
Staff presented the Taxiway A Rehabilitation Project, explaining that contractor GEL Brothers will address edge cracking through soil excavation and cement stabilization, with construction starting June 15, 2026, and two scheduled runway shutdowns (June 22-26 and July 13-17) with taxiway closure through July 24. Project Manager Josh Minshaw and staff emphasized their coordination efforts with the contractor to minimize disruptions and noted they have refined the schedule over one month to reduce impacts on airport tenants. Public commenters, including Ron Mangan of Petaluma Flight Training Center and Mark Ashton of Helum Pilot Training Center, expressed concerns about business disruption, inadequate advance notice, and potential extended delays based on past construction project overruns, while requesting compensation plans and stronger penalty clauses for contractor delays. Commissioners recommended enhanced communication through signage at all gates, daily updates to the Airport Operations Specialist system, FAA NOTAMs, and a mailing list notification system, while also expressing concerns about loose gravel on open taxiways and requesting deployment of sweeping equipment. Staff clarified that the City cannot provide tenant compensation during closures, confirmed FAA safety regulations require runway closures for the connector work, and indicated the final schedule would be confirmed by week's end, with a total project budget of $2,577,000.
Approval of Minutes for the meeting of March 5, 2026
The commission moved to approve the minutes from the March 5, 2026 meeting. A commissioner made a motion to approve the minutes as provided, noting appreciation for staff's efforts in minimizing closure time and pushing dates out. Another commissioner seconded the motion, and the minutes were approved unanimously.
Council Update
The Council Update covered minimal business activity. A commissioner reported receiving community notification about Flying Tails, a wildlife organization, which rescued orphaned badger cubs at Petaluma Airport and transported them to a safer location, and the community member requested the airport be thanked for their cooperation in this effort.
Ad Hoc Subcommittee Updates Hangar Development Hangar Maintenance Hangar Waitlist Policy
Ad Hoc Subcommittee Updates were deferred, with the chair noting that no substantial updates were provided on hangar development, hangar maintenance, or the hangar waitlist policy. The commission decided to wait until the new airport manager is fully on board to provide updates, with expectations for substantive reports at the July or August meeting.
Commissioner Comment
# Commissioner Comment Summary
As his 20+ year tenure as Airport Commissioner ends next month, Tom delivered farewell remarks reflecting on his contributions to Petaluma Municipal Airport's development and legacy. He highlighted a hangar project completed around 2005-2006 that helped earn the airport AOPA recognition as a model other airports should aspire to emulate, and noted that a 2023 economic impact analysis shows the airport generates approximately $45 million annually for the Petaluma community while supporting 42 employees. Tom authored an Aircraft Hangar Development Guide published by AOPA that addresses business planning, financial analysis, project scope, stakeholder integration, and project execution, which he recommended as a resource for future airport development. He expressed his commitment to preserving the airport's legacy established by early Petaluma area pilots and offered to continue assisting through an ad hoc committee working with city department heads and managers, stating he will attend next month's meeting.
As his 20+ year tenure as Airport Commissioner ends next month, Tom delivered farewell remarks reflecting on his contributions to Petaluma Municipal Airport's development and legacy. He highlighted a hangar project completed around 2005-2006 that helped earn the airport AOPA recognition as a model other airports should aspire to emulate, and noted that a 2023 economic impact analysis shows the airport generates approximately $45 million annually for the Petaluma community while supporting 42 employees. Tom authored an Aircraft Hangar Development Guide published by AOPA that addresses business planning, financial analysis, project scope, stakeholder integration, and project execution, which he recommended as a resource for future airport development. He expressed his commitment to preserving the airport's legacy established by early Petaluma area pilots and offered to continue assisting through an ad hoc committee working with city department heads and managers, stating he will attend next month's meeting.
Puntos de agenda (6)
General Business
1General BusinessPresentation on Taxiway A Rehabilitation Project (Updated 5/19/2026)
City staff will present an update on plans to rehabilitate Taxiway A at the airport, including any changes made since the last update in May 2026.
Qué ocurrió
# Summary: Presentation on Taxiway A Rehabilitation Project (Updated 5/19/2026)Staff presented the Taxiway A Rehabilitation Project, explaining that contractor GEL Brothers will address edge cracking through soil excavation and cement stabilization, with construction starting June 15, 2026, and two scheduled runway shutdowns (June 22-26 and July 13-17) with taxiway closure through July 24. Project Manager Josh Minshaw and staff emphasized their coordination efforts with the contractor to minimize disruptions and noted they have refined the schedule over one month to reduce impacts on airport tenants. Public commenters, including Ron Mangan of Petaluma Flight Training Center and Mark Ashton of Helum Pilot Training Center, expressed concerns about business disruption, inadequate advance notice, and potential extended delays based on past construction project overruns, while requesting compensation plans and stronger penalty clauses for contractor delays. Commissioners recommended enhanced communication through signage at all gates, daily updates to the Airport Operations Specialist system, FAA NOTAMs, and a mailing list notification system, while also expressing concerns about loose gravel on open taxiways and requesting deployment of sweeping equipment. Staff clarified that the City cannot provide tenant compensation during closures, confirmed FAA safety regulations require runway closures for the connector work, and indicated the final schedule would be confirmed by week's end, with a total project budget of $2,577,000.
Procedural (1)
2ProceduralApproval of Minutes for the meeting of March 5, 2026
The council will vote to approve the official written record of what was discussed and decided at the March 5, 2026 meeting.
Qué ocurrió
The commission moved to approve the minutes from the March 5, 2026 meeting. A commissioner made a motion to approve the minutes as provided, noting appreciation for staff's efforts in minimizing closure time and pushing dates out. Another commissioner seconded the motion, and the minutes were approved unanimously.Public Hearing
3Public HearingCouncil Update
This is a public hearing where the council will provide updates on city matters and residents may comment.
Qué ocurrió
The Council Update covered minimal business activity. A commissioner reported receiving community notification about Flying Tails, a wildlife organization, which rescued orphaned badger cubs at Petaluma Airport and transported them to a safer location, and the community member requested the airport be thanked for their cooperation in this effort.4Public HearingAd Hoc Subcommittee Updates Hangar Development Hangar Maintenance Hangar Waitlist Policy
An ad hoc subcommittee will present findings and recommendations on three airport hangar issues: how to develop new hangar space, how to maintain existing hangars, and how to manage the waitlist for hangar rentals.
Qué ocurrió
Ad Hoc Subcommittee Updates were deferred, with the chair noting that no substantial updates were provided on hangar development, hangar maintenance, or the hangar waitlist policy. The commission decided to wait until the new airport manager is fully on board to provide updates, with expectations for substantive reports at the July or August meeting.5Public HearingCommissioner Comment
This is a public hearing where commissioners can make comments on city business.
Qué ocurrió
# Commissioner Comment SummaryAs his 20+ year tenure as Airport Commissioner ends next month, Tom delivered farewell remarks reflecting on his contributions to Petaluma Municipal Airport's development and legacy. He highlighted a hangar project completed around 2005-2006 that helped earn the airport AOPA recognition as a model other airports should aspire to emulate, and noted that a 2023 economic impact analysis shows the airport generates approximately $45 million annually for the Petaluma community while supporting 42 employees. Tom authored an Aircraft Hangar Development Guide published by AOPA that addresses business planning, financial analysis, project scope, stakeholder integration, and project execution, which he recommended as a resource for future airport development. He expressed his commitment to preserving the airport's legacy established by early Petaluma area pilots and offered to continue assisting through an ad hoc committee working with city department heads and managers, stating he will attend next month's meeting.
6Public HearingAssistant Director Report
The Assistant Director will present a report on their department's activities and any relevant updates for the council and public.
Qué ocurrió
During the Assistant Director Report, Gina (the new airport manager) presented multiple updates regarding airport operations and finances. The report introduced a 2026 Fuel Price Tracker monitoring fuel price fluctuations over the past four to five months and noted that year-to-date expenditure reports were provided in standard format, though sales and cargo reports will be posted to the airport website before the next meeting due to technical delays. Gina also reported that fire inspections of leased hangars are underway with two large rounds completed, with only hangars 14-18 remaining, and confirmed staff will send email notices to tenants before final inspections occur. Additionally, Gina noted that the Fuel Farm Rehabilitation Project has been moved from the CIP process to internal management by the Public Works facilities team, the Hangar Feasibility Study will proceed once onboarding is complete, and the 18C Door Repair project was accepted by City Council on May 4th. Regarding the FY 2026-27 budget, Gina confirmed that five airport projects are funded, including Taxiway A and Taxiway Lane B rehabilitation projects in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, and acknowledged a commissioner's inquiry about a $20,000 overage in the "Other Pay Retirement Sick Vacation" line item that staff agreed to verify.Votos adicionales registrados en actas
Approve meeting minutes
aye 1
voice voteaye
Adjourn meeting
aye 1
voice voteaye
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[CALL TO ORDER] AND NANCY, JEFF HERE, AND ALEX HERE. AND, UH, LET IT BE. NO, ANNA AND MARCUS ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT. SO I GUESS WE CAN START WITH THIS PRESENTATION OR, UH, GENERAL, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS. GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS. UH, DO WE HAVE ANY GENERAL, DO ARE YOU GONNA READ THE RULES COMMENT? I'M SORRY. ANNA ALWAYS DOES THAT. OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. THEY CALL, UM, CAN YOU READ THE RULES FOR US? PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THANK YOU. ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE AIRPORT COMMISSION'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES, TOTALING NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES SUBJECT TO THE CHAIR'S DISCRETION. SO, UM, RYAN KURTZ, I WAS GONNA MY TIME TO MARK. HE HAD, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY NOT . ARE THOSE FOR THE AGENDA? ITEM? FOR THE AGENDA? OKAY. SO DO WE HAVE ANY, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC, FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT? DANIELLE, KURT? NO. RON MANGAN. UH, I, THIS GONNA BE FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. MARK ASHTON. I'M ONE. I'M ONE. SO NOTHING ELSE. WE GO [PRESENTATIONS] AHEAD AND START THE PRESENTATION. YEAH. CHAIR. UM, AT, AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE PRESENTATIONS DON'T USUALLY HAVE THEIR OWN UNIQUE PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, IT'S AT YOUR DISCRETION IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THE PRESENTATION OR BEFORE. UM, HOW ABOUT AFTER? ABSOLUTELY. THANKS. CAN YOU BRING THAT YES UP FOR US? THINKING IT'S THINKING. OKAY. SO, GOOD EVENING AIRPORT COMMISSIONERS AND COUNCIL MEMBER. UH, I HAVE TONIGHT A, UH, BRIEF PRESENTATION THAT IS, UH, LARGELY ECHOING NOTIFICATIONS THAT I'VE SENT OUT PREVIOUSLY, UH, IN BY EMAIL. UH, AND IT IS ADDRESSING THE UPCOMING TAXIWAY A, UM, REHABILITATION PROJECT. UH, AND THE, THERE, THERE ARE TWO PROJECTS THAT WILL BE, UM, UM, DOVETAILING WITH EACH OTHER.
OKAY. SO, GOOD EVENING AIRPORT COMMISSIONERS AND COUNCIL MEMBER. UH, I HAVE TONIGHT A, UH, BRIEF PRESENTATION THAT IS, UH, LARGELY ECHOING NOTIFICATIONS THAT I'VE SENT OUT PREVIOUSLY, UH, IN BY EMAIL. UH, AND IT IS ADDRESSING THE UPCOMING TAXIWAY A, UM, REHABILITATION PROJECT. UH, AND THE, THERE, THERE ARE TWO PROJECTS THAT WILL BE, UM, UM, DOVETAILING WITH EACH OTHER. TAXI LANE B WILL FOLLOW AFTER TAXIWAY A LATER IN THE SUMMER. AND THE PROJECT IS IN A PRE-CONSTRUCTION PHASE. UH, WE, THE CONTRACTOR IS, UM, STARTED TO MOBILIZE. UM, THEY, UH, DO NOT YET HAVE A NOTICE TO PROCEED. WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR SOME TIME NOW FOR CLOSE TO A MONTH, REFINING THEIR CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE AND, UH, WORKING TO, UH, REALLY, UM, REFINE THAT SCHEDULE, TRY AND OPTIMIZE IT FOR EFFICIENCY, TO MINIMIZE ANY SHUTDOWNS DOWNS AND, UM, AND REALLY, UH, MAKE THE PROJECT AS PALATABLE AS WE CAN TO THE AIRPORT COMMUNITY. UM, AND OUR, OUR STAFF AND OUR DESIGN TEAM AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT TEAM, UH, MEET AND HUNT, UH, ARE ALL VERY SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT THE IMPACTS OF ANY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AT THE AIRPORT, UH, ARE, ARE, UM, ACUTELY FELT BY OUR TENANTS AND AIRPORT USERS. AND I'VE MET WITH SOME OF YOU, UH, UP TO THIS POINT TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK. AND, UH, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING HARD TO RESPOND TO THE FEEDBACK I'VE RECEIVED, UH, ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE TEAM. UH, IT, IN 2017, AN EVALUATION WAS DONE ON THE PAVEMENT. AT THAT TIME, IT WAS IN, UH, IN VERY POOR CONDITION ON BOTH TAXIWAY AND TAXI LANE. AND, UM, IT, IT WAS AT THAT TIME THAT THESE TWO PROJECTS WERE CREATED, UH, FUNDING WAS SOUGHT FROM FAA APPROVED AND THE TWO PROJECTS, UM, THEN WENT INTO DESIGN IT. UM, IT HAS, UH, BEEN, UH, A FAIRLY SEAMLESS PROCESS AS FAR AS OUR CIP PROJECTS GO UP TO THIS POINT. AND I EXPECT IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE IN AS MUCH AS, UH, THE PROJECTS WERE NOTICED PUBLICLY BID. UH, MEEN HUNT, WHO IS, UH, OUR CONSULTANT AT THE AIRPORT WHO DOES, UH, UM, MUCH OF OUR, ALL OF OUR DESIGN WORK, WE DON'T DO THAT DESIGN WORK IN-HOUSE.
IT'S HIGHLY SPECIALIZED AND WE RELY ON THEIR, UH, ON THEIR EXPERTISE, UH, IN, IN, UM, IN AIRCRAFT, OR SORRY, IN AIRPORT DESIGN. AND, UH, THE PROJECT WAS AWARDED BY CITY COUNCIL BACK IN NOVEMBER TO GEL BROTHERS FROM SAN RAFAEL. THEY WERE THE SUCCESSFUL BIDDER. AND, UH, THAT IS WHO I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH AND WORKING WITH NOW, UH, WITH OUR TEAM TO WORK ON ON THE, THE DETAILS, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION DETAILS, THE ORDER OF EXECUTION, THE, UM, THE, THE WORK ITSELF AND HOW IT CAN BEST BE ACCOMPLISHED IN THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY AND THE SCHEDULE. AND IT'S LARGELY THAT SCHEDULE, THAT IMPACT THAT I WANTED TO PRESENT THIS EVENING AND SHARE PUBLICLY WITH, WITH THE COMMISSION. SO YOU ALL HAVE A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND, AND ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC TO RESPOND, UH, WITH QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. UH, WITH THAT SAID, I WANNA, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UH, MY COLLEAGUE JOSH MINSHAW. JOSH IS ONE OF OUR PRINCIPAL ENGINEERS IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM DEPARTMENT, AND HE'S ALSO THE PROJECT MANAGER ON THIS PROJECT AND HAS BEEN WORKING WITH ME AND WITH MEAD AND HUNT, UM, SEAMLESSLY THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. AND HE'S HERE TO HELP ME PRESENT. AND, UM, SO THE PROJECT, UH, I MENTIONED THAT WE'RE IN PRE-CONSTRUCTION. THERE'S BEEN, I'M SURE YOU'VE NOTICED SOME MOBILIZATION, A LITTLE BIT OF EQUIPMENT THAT THE CONTRACTORS BROUGHT IN, UH, AND STAGED AT THE NORTH END OF THE AIRPORT. THERE WILL BE MORE TO COME IN EVENTUALLY. THEY'VE ALSO BEEN ON SITE DOING, UH, PRE-CONSTRUCTION SURVEY WORK. THEY'VE HAD SURVEYORS OUT, UH, GATHERING DATA AND, UH, AND DOING THIS IN PARALLEL WITH THE BESIDE BEHIND THE SCENES WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, UH, DISCUSSING THE SCHEDULE AND THE WORK SCOPE. AND NEXT SLIDE.
THE, UH, THE EFFECTIVE, UH, SCHEDULE THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING TONIGHT IS STILL A DRAFT SCHEDULE. AND I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M, THAT I'M, YOU KNOW, VERY CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT FINALIZED. IT'S NOT FINALIZED, AND I WANNA BE CLEAR ABOUT IT BECAUSE OUR CONTRACTOR IS STILL VETTING WITH THEIR SUBCONTRACTORS AND THEIR EQUIPMENT SCHEDULES THAT THEY, UM, THAT THEY CAN COMMIT TO IT. BUT THIS WAS PRESENTED BY GEL BROTHERS IN RESPONSE TO, UM, A FEW ROUNDS, A FEW ITERATIONS OF DISCUSSIONS AND REFINEMENTS, UH, TO TRY AND MINIMIZE THOSE SHUTDOWNS. AND, UH, THEY FEEL, THEY FELT AT OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS LATE LAST WEEK, THAT THIS WAS ACHIEVABLE. IT WAS GONNA BE CHALLENGING. AND IT WAS, UH, DEFINITELY NOT AN EASY SCHEDULE TO ATTAIN. LIKE THEY'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE PUSHING, UH, THE ENVELOPE TO DO THIS, BUT THEY THOUGHT THAT, UH, ASSUMING THEY DON'T HIT ANYTHING CRAZY WHEN THEY START DIGGING ANYTHING THAT, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, UNEXPECTED CONDITIONS WHENEVER YOU'RE EXCAVATING ARE ALWAYS A RISK. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA WHAT'S OUT THERE. THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE WORK OUT THERE. AND, UH, OUR AS-BUILTS WE FEEL ARE, ARE PRETTY GOOD AND TIGHT, AND THEY WILL BE ULTIMATELY POTHOLING AND LOOKING TO MAKE SURE BEFORE THEY START THE PROJECT THAT THEY KNOW WHAT'S WHAT'S UNDER THERE. SO IT'S A, IT'S MY LONG WAY OF SAYING THAT IT'S A PRETTY GOOD SCHEDULE. WE THINK WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO MEET THIS. I HAVEN'T FINALIZED IT YET. I'M WAITING FOR THAT LAST THUMBS UP. SO WITH THAT, WITH THAT AS BACKGROUND, UM, YOU'RE, UM, WE CAN, UM, WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SCOPE NEXT AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE SCHEDULE. AND JOSH KNOWS THE SCOPE EVEN BETTER THAN I, SO I'LL LET YOU TAKE OVER ON THAT. . ALRIGHT. UM,
SO WITH THAT, WITH THAT AS BACKGROUND, UM, YOU'RE, UM, WE CAN, UM, WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SCOPE NEXT AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE SCHEDULE. AND JOSH KNOWS THE SCOPE EVEN BETTER THAN I, SO I'LL LET YOU TAKE OVER ON THAT. . ALRIGHT. UM, SO THE, THE OVERALL PROJECT, UM, WE WANTED TO ADDRESS THE EDGE CRACKING. SO THE ADOBE CLAY OIL IS VERY SOFT. UM, THE ORIGINAL DESIGN, UH, RELIED ON MOISTURE TREATMENT THAT DIDN'T WORK. UM, SO WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING IS DIGGING OUT A LARGE SECTION ON EITHER SIDE OF THE TAXIWAY, AND IN THAT ZONE, KIND OF A DEEP FILL WILL BE MIXED WITH CEMENT, UM, AS A SPECIALIZED TREATMENT TO STABILIZE THAT SOIL, UM, BEFORE WE START REPAVING. SO A LOT OF EXCAVATION WILL BE ALONG THE KIND OF 10 FOOT EDGE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE TAXIWAY. AND THAT KIND OF EXTENDS, AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE AERIAL, IT EXTENDS UP EACH OF THOSE CONNECTORS. AND THIS IS KIND OF WHAT COMPLICATES, UM, THE SHUTDOWN SCHEDULE, WHY IT'S CHALLENGING FOR THE CONTRACTOR. UM, SO THE, THE BREAKDOWN AS IT WAS DESIGNED WAS TO ALLOW THEM THE CENTER PART OF THE TAXIWAY, UH, FOR A MAJORITY OF THE WORK, AND THEN TO WORK ON THE EDGES OF THE CONNECTORS, UM, IN A MORE CONCENTRATED FASHION. UNFORTUNATELY, THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY NEED TO BRING THE SCHEDULING OVERLAP COORDINATION, UH, IN ORDER TO MAKE IT CONSTRUCTABLE, WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP IT AS SEAMLESS AS POSSIBLE. SO ONCE THEY START A TASK, THEY CAN FINISH THAT TASK. UM, SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS FRONT LOAD SOME OF THE WORK WITHIN THE TAXI WAY AND KEEP THOSE TWO ENDS OPEN. UH, AND I CAN JUMP INTO, UM, I'LL SKIP AHEAD AND COME BACK. SO THIS WOULD BE A SETUP WHERE, UM, THEY'RE WORKING WITHIN THE TAXI WAY. THE TAXIWAY ITSELF WOULD BE CLOSED AND THEY WOULD GET AS MUCH WORK AS THEY CAN IN THAT CENTER PORTION. UM, A LOT OF THAT DIG OUT WOULD ACTUALLY REMOVE, UH, THE ASPHALT MATERIAL AND THE BASE AND STOCK, PILOT IT ON THE TAXIWAY, UM, WHILE THEY DO THEIR WORK, LAY IT BACK.
UM, SO ALL OF THESE PROCESSES, UM, HAVE TO HAPPEN IN A VERY SPECIFIC SEQUENCE, UH, IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE OUR CONSTRUCTION GOALS. AND SO WHEN, UH, WE'VE GOT THE CEMENT TREATMENT, THEY'LL COME AND DO KIND OF BOTH OF THOSE SECTIONS, BOTH OF THOSE SETUPS. UM, AND ONCE THAT CEMENT TREATMENT IS DONE IN THAT FIRST SHUTDOWN, UM, THEY'LL REOPEN THE TWO ENDS AND ALLOW THE RUNWAY TO RESUME OPERATION, BUT THE TAXIWAY WOULD STAY CLOSED. AND THEN WHEN THEY COME BACK TO DO THE PAVING, THEY WILL BASICALLY REPEAT THE PROCESS. UM, IN BETWEEN ALL OF THAT IS A LOT OF, UM, UNDERGROUND IRRIGATION WORK, UM, THAT THEY WILL TRY AND DO ON THE FRONT END ALONG WITH THE POTHOLING. UM, AND THEN AS WE SEPARATE THE TWO PHASES OF, UM, THE CEMENT TREATMENT AND THE PAVING OVERLAY, UM, WE WILL TRY AND TIME THAT WITH THE 4TH OF JULY HOLIDAY. UM, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO GIA. THANKS. I HAVE A QUESTION. YES. UM, THE DIAGRAM THAT YOU WERE, THE SLIDE YOU WERE SHOWING PREVIOUSLY, UH, THAT SHOWED YEAH. CAN YOU EXPLAIN, I CAN'T READ THE LEGEND. UM, AFTER HOW CHARLIE, THE LAST, MORE THAN A THIRD OF THE, OF THE TAXIWAY IS KIND OF, IT SAYS, I GUESS IT SAYS BASE. CAN YOU, UM, EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND THE PART THAT SCREENED? YEAH. SO WHEN WE BID OUT THE PROJECT, UM, THERE WAS A, UM, BID ALTERNATE, UM, PROCESS WHERE, UM, WE WANTED TO SEE HOW MUCH WE COULD GET FUNDING, UM, THROUGH THE FA, UH, THROUGH THE STATE. AND SO IT WAS SET UP WHERE WE HAD THE OPTION TO DO A PORTION OF THE WORK OR ALL OF THE WORK. UM, OH, OKAY. AND SO WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS BOTH THE, THE ORANGE AND THE GREEN THAT'S BOTH INCLUDED WITH THIS PROJECT. IT'S THE SAME PROCESS. YEP. BASE JUST INDICATES THAT INITIALLY THAT WAS WHAT THE PROJECT ENCOMPASSED. CORRECT. IT'S THE SAME PROCESS. YEP.
AND SO IT WAS SET UP WHERE WE HAD THE OPTION TO DO A PORTION OF THE WORK OR ALL OF THE WORK. UM, OH, OKAY. AND SO WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS BOTH THE, THE ORANGE AND THE GREEN THAT'S BOTH INCLUDED WITH THIS PROJECT. IT'S THE SAME PROCESS. YEP. BASE JUST INDICATES THAT INITIALLY THAT WAS WHAT THE PROJECT ENCOMPASSED. CORRECT. IT'S THE SAME PROCESS. YEP. THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT TO ME. OUR, AS A, AS A CLARIFICATION POINT OF CLARIFICATION, OUR INITIAL INDICATIONS FROM THE FAA WHEN WE FIRST SUBMITTED THE PROJECT WERE THAT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND THE ENTIRE PROJECT. I REMEMBER THAT. YEAH. YEAH. AND SO WE BROKE IT INTO PIECES, INTO A BASE BID AND AN ALTERNATE SO THAT WE COULD BID THEM EACH MM-HMM . AND SO THAT IF THE FAA FOUND THE FUNDING TO SUPPORT BOTH, WE COULD SIMPLY ADD THE BID. WE'D ALREADY HAVE THE BIDS IN, WE'D HAVE ALL THE NUMBERS. WE COULD JUST ADD THAT TO THE SCOPE, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. EXCELLENT. YEAH. EXCELLENT. THAT'S GREAT NEWS. UH, ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SO FAR? SO, SO, UH, JOSH HAS, UM, TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, THE CEMENT TREATMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE, UH, APPLIED TO THE SUBGRADE ALONG THE FULL DISTANCE, EITHER SIDE OF THE TAXI WAY, BECAUSE THAT'S THE FAILED SOIL. THAT'S THE CLAY THAT WAS NEVER TREATED. THE MAIN, THE MAIN PAVED AREA OF THE TAXIWAY HASN'T FAILED TO THAT EXTENT. IT'S HELD UP WELL. AND WE DON'T HAVE TO CEMENT TREAT THAT WE JUST HAVE TO DO, WE HAVE TO EXCAVATE ALONG THE EDGES, PULL THE MATERIAL OUT, THEY'LL PUT IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TAXI WAY, THEY'LL MIX IT WITH A CEMENT TREATMENT, PUT IT BACK IN. THEY HAVE TO DO THAT IN TWO LIFTS, AND THEN IT'S READY TO BE OVERLAID WITH, UH, PAVED AND OVERLAID WITH THE REST OF THE TAXIWAY. AND WHAT, OKAY.
WHERE WE, WHERE WE HAVE, UM, WHERE WE HAVE A, UM, UH, A, A SAFETY, UH, AREA, UM, OVERLAY OR IMPACT IS AT THESE CONNECTORS MM-HMM . ALL THE, THERE'S HOW MANY? FIVE TOTAL TOTAL OF FIVE, UH, FIVE CONNECTORS THAT CONNECT THE TAXIWAY TO THE RUNWAY. AND ON THE RUNWAY SIDE OF THOSE CONNECTORS, IT'S WITHIN A SAFETY AREA, FA, A CONTROLLED SAFETY AREA, UH, AN OBJECT SAFETY AREA WHERE WE, UH, CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO THE WORK WE NEED TO DO WITHOUT, UM, BY THEIR REGULATIONS CLOSING DOWN RUNWAY OPERATIONS. AND THAT'S WHAT'S TRIGGERING IT. AND SO PART OF OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CONTRACTOR HAVE BEEN, OKAY, HOW CAN WE DO THIS WORK? HOW CAN WE PHASE IT? HOW CAN YOU MANAGE THIS TO MINIMIZE THE TIME THAT YOU'RE IN THOSE LITTLE RED AREAS ON THE CONNECTORS ON THE RUNWAY SIDE? THAT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, A HUGE PART OF OUR CONVERSATION. AND, UM, UH, WE LOOKED AT SOME SOLUTIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOUNDED GREAT, BUT, UM, AND, AND MIGHT HAVE SHAVED EVEN MORE TIME, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE THE EFFECT OF CREATING, UH, CONSTRUCTION JOINTS IN THE PAVEMENT THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY CAUSE WATER INTRUSION AND FASTER FAILURE OF THE SUBGRADE. RIGHT. WE WANT A REALLY, REALLY TIGHT, SEAMLESS PAVING JOB. AND SO WE DON'T WANNA CREATE ANY SEAMS, ANY VERTICAL SEAMS IN THAT. AND, UH, AND WE THINK WE'VE ARRIVED AT THE BEST SOLUTION TO MAINTAIN A GOOD, A, A GOOD SEAL ON, ON THIS OVERLAY WITHOUT CREATING ANY SEAMS AND ALLOW THEM TO DO THE WORK AND PROCESS THE WORK YEAH. AS QUICKLY AS THEY CAN. SO THEY'RE OVERLAPPING SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, TASKS, DOING SOME THINGS AT THE SAME TIME. WE'RE ADDING OVERTIME, UH, UH, AND SOME, UH, LATE DAYS, SOME WEEKENDS TO, UH, TO HELP, UH, HELP ACHIEVE THE SCHEDULE AND THE DATES. UM, CAN YOU PULL UP THOSE DATES IN THE, UH, PLEASE, JOSH? MM-HMM . UM, THE DATES OF THE PROPOSED SHUTDOWNS, UM, THE, UH, FOR THE, UH, SO THIS IS SHOWING OUR CONSTRUCTION START ON JUNE 15TH.
CONTRACTOR WILL ACTUALLY BE ON SITE A LITTLE SOONER, BUT THEY WON'T BE ACTUALLY DOING CONSTRUCTION. THEY'LL BE DOING SOME PREPARATORY WORK. THE DAY THEY'RE GONNA START DIGGING IS PROPOSED TO BE JUNE 15TH AND THE VERY LAST DAY OF THE CLOSEOUT OF THE PUNCH LIST ITEMS. SO BEYOND WHEN THEY EFFECTIVELY FINISH CONSTRUCTION, BUT MAY HAVE TO COME BACK IN AND DO SOME ODDS AND ENDS BECAUSE WE FOUND SOME, SOME ITEMS THAT EITHER NEED CORRECTION OR DIDN'T QUITE GET COMPLETED, ET CETERA. UM, THAT WOULD BE, UH, IN EARLY SEPTEMBER ON THE FOURTH. SO WELL, THE POT HOLDING, WILL THAT OCCUR OUTSIDE OF THE TIME PERIOD WHEN THE RUNWAY WILL BE CLOSED? AND IF SO, WILL IT BE? IT WILL NOT. IT, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IT WOULD MEAN SOME PARTIAL CLOSURES OF TAXIWAY ALPHA PRIOR TO THAT 5G SHOULD NOT BE. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE GIVES US THE, THE TAXIWAY SHUTDOWN. UH, SORRY, GO BACK ONE, I MISSED IT. YEP. UH, THANK YOU. SO THE PROPOSED SHUTDOWN FOR THE TAXIWAY ITSELF IS, IS THAT WHOLE PERIOD FROM THE START OF CONSTRUCTION TO THE END OF THE SECOND RUNWAY SHUTDOWN, BASICALLY. MM-HMM . TO THE 24TH, THAT'S WHEN THE TAXIWAY WILL BE DOWN. AND THEN WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME, THERE ARE TWO SMALLER RUNWAY SHUTDOWNS PROPOSED. AND, UH, THAT'S THE NEXT SLIDE. AND THE FIRST IS IN, UM, JUNE FROM THE 22ND, MONDAY TO FRIDAY THE 26TH. AND THEN THERE'S A TWO WEEK BREAK AND, UH, THAT'S ALLOWING SOME CURING TIME FOR THE CEMENT TREATMENT WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE IN THAT FIRST PIECE. AND IT'S ALSO ALLOWING SOME, UM, SOME TIME TO DO A TEST STRIP, RIGHT? YEP. SO THAT THEY CAN, UM, THEY CAN GET, UM, SOME TA A STRIP OF TAXIWAY PAVING TO, UM, TO PROVE OUT THE METHODOLOGY AND THE DESIGN AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ALL GOOD. RIGHT. SO THAT WHEN THEY DO GET OUT THERE TO PAVE, THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO EXPECT. OKAY. AND THEY CAN GO. SO THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT TWO WEEKS. AND THAT TWO WEEKS JUST HAPPENS TO COINCIDE, UH, WITH, UH, 4TH OF JULY HOLIDAY. SO WE'RE NOT DISRUPTING 4TH OF JULY HOLIDAY.
OKAY. AND THEY CAN GO. SO THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT TWO WEEKS. AND THAT TWO WEEKS JUST HAPPENS TO COINCIDE, UH, WITH, UH, 4TH OF JULY HOLIDAY. SO WE'RE NOT DISRUPTING 4TH OF JULY HOLIDAY. MM-HMM . IT WILL BE, UM, THE, THE, THE TA UH, SORRY, THE TAXIWAY WILL BE CLOSED THEN, BUT THE RUNWAY WILL BE OPEN. AND THEN THE SECOND RUNWAY CLOSURE IS AT THE END OF THAT PERIOD FROM JULY 13TH THROUGH JULY 17TH, AGAIN ON MONDAY TO FRIDAY. OKAY. AND I THINK THAT'S IT. YEP. PROBABLY GO TO QUESTIONS AFTER THAT. THANK YOU. AND I DID WANT TO CLARIFY THAT WHAT'S NOT ON THERE, UH, IS SOME FINAL STRIPING. UM, THAT'S PART OF WHY WE HAVE THAT LATE KIND OF SEPTEMBER TIMELINE. SO THERE WILL BE KIND OF THE INITIAL STRIPING AND THEN THAT'S GOT A SET FOR A WHILE BEFORE THEY TOUCH IT UP WITH THE FINAL. OKAY. UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION, UM, IF I CAN GO AHEAD. UH, WHEN DID WE EXPECT TO GET THE FINALIZATION OF THE SCHEDULE? YOU HAD SAID YOU, YOU, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I'M GLAD YOU ASKED. OKAY. I HAD HOPED I WOULD HAVE IT BY NOW, BY TODAY. YEAH. BUT WE KNOW THAT THE CONTRACTOR IS STILL CONFIRMING SOME, SOME DETAILS. NO, I EXPECT SOMETIME THIS WEEK. THIS WEEK. OKAY. YEAH. WHAT ARE THE PROPOSED WORKING HOURS FOR THE PROJECT WHILE THEY'LL ACTUALLY BE OUT THERE WORKING? WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING THAT WITH THE SCHEDULE, SO WE HAVEN'T HEARD YET FROM THE CONTRACTOR WHICH DAYS THEY WANT TO WORK LATE. RIGHT.
THIS WEEK. OKAY. YEAH. WHAT ARE THE PROPOSED WORKING HOURS FOR THE PROJECT WHILE THEY'LL ACTUALLY BE OUT THERE WORKING? WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING THAT WITH THE SCHEDULE, SO WE HAVEN'T HEARD YET FROM THE CONTRACTOR WHICH DAYS THEY WANT TO WORK LATE. RIGHT. WHAT, WHAT, UH, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY, UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE'RE NOT YET PROPOSING AND DON'T PLAN TO ANY FULL OVERNIGHT PAVING WORK OR OVERNIGHT WORK, BUT THERE WILL BE ELONG DAY, ELONGATED DAYS, SO PROBABLY WORKING INTO, WITH THE DAYLIGHT, WORKING INTO SOME EVENINGS. AND IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY WHILE THE WORK IS NOT BEING DONE OF ALLOWING TAKEOFFS AND LANDINGS DURING THOSE HOURS? UH, AS LONG, NOT ON THE DATES WHEN WE'RE SHOWING RUNWAY CLOSURES. SO NOT DURING THOSE WINDOW FRAMES, BECAUSE, BECAUSE THERE'LL BE EQUIPMENT OUT THERE. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T DEMOBILIZE AND MOBILIZE THEIR EQUIPMENT AT EVERY CONNECTOR EVERY DAY. SO, UM, SO THE, THE RUNWAY NEEDS OR THE, THE SHUTDOWNS ON THE RUNWAYS FOR THOSE DAYS TO, AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, NEED TO BE CONTINUOUS. I CAN RECONFIRM THAT AND CHECK, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S THE CASE. QUESTION IS, UH, THIS IS SCHEDULED TO START ON THE 22ND, OR IS THAT CORRECT? OR THE, SORRY, WHEN IS IT SCHEDULED TO START THE 15TH? THE CONSTRUCTION IS SCHEDULED TO START JUNE 15TH. OKAY. AND THEN A WEEK LATER, THE FIRST, UM, SORRY, IS THAT TRUE? YEAH. YEAH. JUNE 22ND. MM-HMM . A WEEK LATER. THE FIRST SHUTDOWN FOR THE RUNWAY WOULD BE SCHEDULED TO START FOR FIVE DAYS DURING THE WEEK. SO IT WON'T INTERRUPT WITH OUR, UH, BIG AIRPORT, UH, BASH ON THE 13TH. NO. NOPE. OKAY. SPECIFICALLY SET, SCHEDULED NOT TO . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, I DO, UH, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION, GINA, AND WORKING ON THIS WITH THE, UM, WITH ALL THE INTERSECTIONS BEING, SO THE, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, THE REASON THE RUNWAY WOULD BE CLOSED IS BECAUSE OF WORK ON THE INTERSECTIONS? YES.
NO. NOPE. OKAY. SPECIFICALLY SET, SCHEDULED NOT TO . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, I DO, UH, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION, GINA, AND WORKING ON THIS WITH THE, UM, WITH ALL THE INTERSECTIONS BEING, SO THE, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, THE REASON THE RUNWAY WOULD BE CLOSED IS BECAUSE OF WORK ON THE INTERSECTIONS? YES. OKAY. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE AT EITHER END OF THE RUNWAY TO CONSTRUCT A DIRT INTERSECTION OR GRAVEL OR SOME TYPE OF ROAD BASE SO THAT RUNWAY OPERATION COULD CONTINUE AND THEY COULD USE THAT TO EITHER TAXI, TAKE OFF LAND, UM, AND THEN HAVE A TEMPORARY ROAD ROAD BASE IN BETWEEN? THAT DOESN'T, EXCUSE ME, THAT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH CONSTRUCTION, THAT ALLOWS AIRPORT OPERATIONS TO CONTINUE? UH, UNFORTUNATELY THE CEMENT TREATMENT, THE CURE TIME OF THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL. UM, AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT SETS UP, 'CAUSE IT HAS TO DO A, UM, CHEMICAL PROCESS, UH, IT'S IN PLACE, UM, FOR SEVERAL DAYS. I BELIEVE IT'S A MINIMUM OF LIKE FOUR OR FIVE DAYS. UM, AND SO AFTER THAT IS WHEN WE CAN START REOPENING. AND SO WE'VE, WE'VE TAKEN IT TO THE BARE MINIMUM THERE. NO, I UNDERSTAND. AND I APPRECIATE THE TIMELINES BEING SHRUNK DOWN FROM, I THINK IT WAS 10 DAYS INITIALLY TO, IS IT FOUR OR FIVE NOW? UM, BUT, UM, I, I GUESS THE, AT LEAST THE FIRST CLOSURE PERIOD, UM, WHEN YOU'RE NOT DOING THE TEST STRIP OUT ON THE RUNWAY, COULD THERE BE SOME KIND OF TEMPORARY INTERSECTION AT THE VERY FAR END OF EITHER END OF THE, OF THE RUNWAY? SO THE TEST STRIP IS GONNA BE ON THE TAXI WAY, FIRST OF ALL. OH, I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO DO, YOU'RE DOING THE TEST PAVING IN PLACE WHERE ULTIMATELY IT WILL BE HAPPENING. SO IT'S THE TAXI WAY WHERE THEY'LL DO THAT. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO WORK HAPPENING ON THE RUNWAY. WE'RE NOT DOING, OH, EXCUSE ME. I THOUGHT I MIS I MISUNDERSTOOD THEN. YEAH, THERE'S NO WORK ON THE RUNWAY. OKAY.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO WORK HAPPENING ON THE RUNWAY. WE'RE NOT DOING, OH, EXCUSE ME. I THOUGHT I MIS I MISUNDERSTOOD THEN. YEAH, THERE'S NO WORK ON THE RUNWAY. OKAY. THERE'S JUST A CLOSURE UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE THE OTHER WORK IS WITHIN A SAFETY AREA FROM THE FAA THAT WHERE THEY PREVENT US FROM DOING WORK THAT CLOSE TO THE RUNWAY. OKAY. SO IT COMES DOWN TO LIABILITY IN THE END. IT COMES DOWN TO FAA REGULATIONS. REGULATIONS, YEAH. AND THEM SHUTTING DOWN THE AIRPORT IF IN VIOLATION. OKAY. YEAH. IT'S, IT'S WAY MORE SERIOUS THAN A FINE MM-HMM . AND IT IS TRULY A SAFETY ISSUE. MM-HMM . OKAY. NO, I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. YEAH. YEAH. I DO HAVE, UH, ONE OTHER COMMENT, WHICH IS, UM, AND I TALKED TO JOSH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS, BUT I HIGHLY RECOMMEND PUTTING SIGNAGE AS SOON AS YOU KNOW, THE SCHEDULE, JUST PUTTING SIGNS UP ON ALL OF THE GATES. AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, JUST LEAN HEAVY INTO THE COMMUNICATION BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE TENANTS OUT THERE IS THAT NOBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON. AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON. IF YOU PUT IT ON THE GATE, THEN THE PEOPLE WILL GO THROUGH, THEN THEY'LL TALK TO THEIR HANGAR NEIGHBORS. AND I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA BASICALLY BE USING THE RUMOR MILL, BUT AT LEAST THEY'LL HAVE THE ACCURATE INFORMATION BECAUSE IT'LL BE POSTED ON THE GATES. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. YEAH. HAPPILY, WE WILL DO THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UM, MAYBE DO A STATUS UPDATE TO THE MAILING LIST THAT YOU SENT THE, UH, NOTIFICATIONS OUT TODAY? EVERY COUPLE OF DAYS OR, YOU KNOW, PRETTY FREQUENTLY. SO IF, I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF WORK, BUT I CAN'T MANAGE EVERY COUPLE OF DAYS. I THINK I'D BE, I'D BE KIDDING MYSELF IF I THOUGHT I COULD. OKAY.
THANK YOU. AND THEN, UM, MAYBE DO A STATUS UPDATE TO THE MAILING LIST THAT YOU SENT THE, UH, NOTIFICATIONS OUT TODAY? EVERY COUPLE OF DAYS OR, YOU KNOW, PRETTY FREQUENTLY. SO IF, I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF WORK, BUT I CAN'T MANAGE EVERY COUPLE OF DAYS. I THINK I'D BE, I'D BE KIDDING MYSELF IF I THOUGHT I COULD. OKAY. BUT I, BUT CERTAINLY SOON AS I HAVE A FINAL SCHEDULE, I WILL UP UPDATE THAT. YEAH, YEAH. UM, PUBLICLY TO, TO THE GROUP THAT, THAT I'VE BEEN REACHING OUT TO. AND, AND, UM, AND THEN SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, UM, I CAN, I'D SAY, UH, BETWEEN, I, I COULD DO ANOTHER UPDATE PARTWAY BETWEEN THAT POINT AND THE CONSTRUCTION START. THAT'D BE GREAT. AND THEN ONCE THE CONSTRUCTION START IS HAPPENING, I'M PROBABLY NOT GOING TO UPDATE UNLESS WE HAVE, IF WE, UM, ENCOUNTER CHANGE CONDITIONS. YEAH. IF ANYTHING IS, YOU KNOW, ANY SURPRISES, CHANGES CERTAINLY TO THE SCHEDULE. YEAH. UH, OR TO THE WORK. IF WE FIND THAT, UM, UH, I DON'T, I CAN'T IMAGINE, BUT IF THE GEOTECH ENGINEER COMES OUT AND INSPECTS THE DIG OUT AND SAYS, OH, I WANT YOU TO GO ANOTHER SIX INCHES, I DON'T THINK WE GOT DEEP ENOUGH. YEAH. A GEOTECH MIGHT DO THAT, RIGHT. FOR A LYME TREAT PROJECT LIKE THIS. AND THAT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE MORE TIME. IT MIGHT, IT MIGHT PUSH THINGS A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T KNOW. IT, IT'S A LONG SHOT. I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT BECAUSE OUR GEOTECH REPORT IS, IS UM, IS UM, UH, A PRETTY KNOWN QUANTITY. THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE THIS OUT THERE. YEAH. AND, UM, SO I'M NOT EXPECTING UNFORESEEN CONDITIONS, BUT I'D BE FOOLISH IF I DIDN'T, IF I DIDN'T WARN AGAINST IT, JUST IN CASE. YEAH. AND IT JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST LOTS OF COMMUNICATION OUT TO THE, AT LEAST THE DISTRIBUTION LIST YOU HAVE SO FAR, UM, OF ANYTHING THAT GOES UNEXPECTED OR EVEN JUST, YOU KNOW, AN UPDATE.
THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME WE'VE DONE THIS OUT THERE. YEAH. AND, UM, SO I'M NOT EXPECTING UNFORESEEN CONDITIONS, BUT I'D BE FOOLISH IF I DIDN'T, IF I DIDN'T WARN AGAINST IT, JUST IN CASE. YEAH. AND IT JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST LOTS OF COMMUNICATION OUT TO THE, AT LEAST THE DISTRIBUTION LIST YOU HAVE SO FAR, UM, OF ANYTHING THAT GOES UNEXPECTED OR EVEN JUST, YOU KNOW, AN UPDATE. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK EVEN AN UPDATE THAT SAYS THERE'S NO UPDATE, EVERYTHING'S GOING, EVERYTHING'S, EVERYTHING'S GOING. YEAH. EVERYTHING IS ON SCHEDULE. THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW AND JUST KIND OF KEEPING IN THEIR MIND THE CLOSURE DATES AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON SCHEDULE ON THIS AND WE'VE MADE PROGRESS, WE'VE COMPLETED THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST TRYING TO FLOOD THE ZONE WITH INFORMATION . RIGHT. THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF OTHER, UM, ITEMS IN, IN THAT REGARD, UM, I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE, GINA, THAT, UH, THE FAA ISSUES, NOTAMS NOTICES TO AIRMEN OR AIR PERSONS, DEPENDING, UM, IF SOMETHING WERE TO IMPACT, UM, OPERATIONS AT A SPECIFIC AIRPORT. I WENT UP TO, FLEW UP TO SANTA ROSA THIS MORNING, AND THE NOTE FROM WHEN I GOT MY BRIEFING WAS THAT THE ILS WAS UNDER REWORK AND NOT AVAILABLE. SO NO PROBLEM.
I FLEW THE RAF, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE, AND I'M SURE YOU'VE GOT THIS IN YOUR PLAN, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FAA ISSUES US ONE OTHER ITEM, UH, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME FOLKS, UH, MAY NOT HAVE AN ELECTRIC SYSTEM IN THEIR AIRCRAFT. THEY MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, PAY ATTENTION TO THE RADIO. UH, I'VE SEEN AT OTHER AIRPORTS WHERE WE'VE ACTUALLY, THEY'VE ACTUALLY PUT A SIGN ON EACH END OF THE RUNWAY, SORT OF A REALLY LARGE, SORT OF A TRIPOD LOOKING THING, UH, WHICH RUNWAY CLOSE, AND THEN A RED LINE ACROSS AT A CIRCLE WITH A RED LINE RUNWAY CLOSE, SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE COMING IN, MAYBE THEY HADN'T HAVE PAID ATTENTION TO NOTOMS, THEY SEE THAT AND THEY GO, OOPS. 'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT WHEN WE'VE GOT CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES NEARBY AND, UH, POTENTIALLY SOMEBODY GETTING HURT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WORKED THAT INTO YOUR PLAN, BUT DO WE HAVE THAT KIND OF SIGNAGE? IT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT BLURRY, BUT YOU, UM, WE DO HAVE , UH, LIGHTED, UH, RUNWAY CLOSURE MARKER ON BOTH ENDS DURING THAT TIME. OKAY, GREAT. YEAH, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND CAN WE GET THE NOTE AMOUNT AS SOON AS YOU HAVE A FINAL SCHEDULE? UM, 'CAUSE THERE'LL BE PEOPLE WHO ARE PLANNING TO COME TO PETALUMA THOSE WEEKS, YOU KNOW, THEIR SUMMER VACATIONS OR WHAT HAVE YOU. AND THAT'S, WE'VE GOTTA, THEY WILL GET THE NOTE IN ADVANCE AND THEY'LL KNOW THEY NEED TO REWORK THEIR PLANS. RIGHT? YEP. THANK YOU. DO THAT. UH, A SMALL QUESTION. UH, DO WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CAN UPDATE THE A OS OH'S GREAT. ON A DAILY BASIS? AH, OKAY. YEAH. AND EVEN GETTING IT ON THE A OS NOW SAYING, AS SOON AS YOU HAVE THE FINAL PLAN, JUST NOTE THE AIRPORT WILL BE CLOSED. YOU KNOW, SO WE'VE, PEOPLE HAVE THREE WEEKS OF EVERYBODY LISTENS TO THAT, OR SHOULD BE AT LEAST THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, SHOULD BE NOTED. GOOD ONE. PAUL. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMENT, REMOVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. YEAH, SO PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, MARK ASHTON, GOOD EVENING.
GOOD ONE. PAUL. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMENT, REMOVE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. YEAH, SO PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, MARK ASHTON, GOOD EVENING. HI, AT THE PETALUMA AIRPORT, AND I BELIEVE WE ARE PROBABLY THE LARGEST EMPLOYER AT THE AIRPORT. UM, THERE MIGHT BE SOMEONE ELSE A LITTLE BIT LARGER, BUT CURRENTLY WE HAVE A STAFF OF 13 AND 11 OF THOSE, UM, EMPLOYEES ARE FLIGHT INSTRUCTORS. WE FLY, UM, ALL YEAR LONG, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. OUR BASIC BUSINESS HOURS ARE FROM 10 TO SIX, AND EACH FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR MAY DO UP TO FOUR FLIGHTS A DAY. AND SO IF YOU START DOING SOME NUMBERS, 11 INSTRUCTORS, AND WE LIKE TO SEE OUR INSTRUCTORS HAVE ABOUT 15 CLIENTS. SO THAT'S 165 CLIENTS RIGHT THERE. SEVEN AIRCRAFT, FOUR FLIGHTS A DAY, THAT'S 28 FLIGHTS A DAY. AND THEN YOU GET 28 TIMES SEVEN FOR THE WEEK. THAT COMES OUT TO 196 IN THE MONTH. SO I WANT TO JUST DISPEL MY, MY MAIN THOUGHT HERE TONIGHT IS TO DISPEL A LOT OF THE, UM, PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY HAVE THE FACTS ABOUT THE PETALUMA AIRPORT. AND THEY BELIEVE IT'S JUST FOR A BUNCH OF PEOPLE RUNNING AROUND FOR, FOR JOY, JOY WRITING, WHICH IS FAR FROM TRUE. AND WE TRAIN PILOTS FROM THE VERY START, THE STUDENT PILOT, ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH THE AIRLINE POSITION. UM, IN FACT, RIGHT NOW, NEXT MONTH, I'VE ANTICIPATING ONE OF MY FLIGHT INSTRUCTORS TO MOVE ON TO THE AIRLINES. JUST THIS PAST WEEK WE HIRED TWO NEW FLIGHT INSTRUCTORS. WE ARE VERY BUSY. WE ARE VERY BUSY. DURING COVI, WE WENT FROM THIS KIND OF BUSY TO COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN. AND THEN WHEN WE STARTED BACK UP AS COVID, YOU KNOW, RAMPED OFF, GOT, GOT OUT OF OUR, OUR LIVES, IT WAS JUST TWO OF US INSTRUCTING. WE LOST 80% OF OUR BUSINESS. BUT WHEN THE AIRPORT IS SHUT DOWN, FOR WHATEVER REASON, AND I, I TOTALLY SUPPORT THIS, THIS PAVEMENT PROJECT, I USE THE AIRPORT EVERY DAY. I SEE IT. I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE AIRPORT. I REMEMBER ALONG, UM, WITH I'M SURE RON MANGON WHEN THE AIRPORT WAS BUILT. I'VE GOT A LOT OF PICTURES BACK, BACK HOME OF ALL THE CONSTRUCTION.
BUT WHEN THE AIRPORT IS SHUT DOWN, FOR WHATEVER REASON, AND I, I TOTALLY SUPPORT THIS, THIS PAVEMENT PROJECT, I USE THE AIRPORT EVERY DAY. I SEE IT. I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE AIRPORT. I REMEMBER ALONG, UM, WITH I'M SURE RON MANGON WHEN THE AIRPORT WAS BUILT. I'VE GOT A LOT OF PICTURES BACK, BACK HOME OF ALL THE CONSTRUCTION. AND, UM, I SEE THE CONDITION THAT OUR TAXIWAYS ARE IN. I CAN'T OFFHAND REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD SUCH A PROJECT ON OUR TAXIWAYS. I KNOW WE REHABBED THE RUNWAY ITSELF. IT NEEDED IT. NOW THE TAXIWAYS ARE DUE, IT NEEDS IT. I SUPPORT THIS. BUT I WANT TO HAVE, UM, COMMISSION KNOW THAT WE NEED SOME NOTIFICATION. I'VE GOT THESE 13 PEOPLE TO LOOK AFTER TO TELL 'EM, HEY, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A COUPLE WEEKS OFF. RIGHT? AND FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE, FOR EACH PERSON, THAT PERSON IS AFFECTED BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GETTING PAID. THE AIRCRAFT OWNER IS NOT GETTING PAID. 'CAUSE THE AIRPLANE IS NOT BEING USED, THE FLIGHT SCHOOL IS NOT GETTING PAID. AND THEN GUESS WHO ELSE? THE MAINTENANCE SHOP IS NOT GETTING WORK BECAUSE THE AIRPLANES AREN'T FLYING. SO YOU TALK ABOUT THE OLD TRICKLE DOWN AND SNOWBALL EFFECT. HERE IT IS RIGHT HERE IN RIVER CITY. AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE AIRPORT'S NOT GETTING PAID BECAUSE WE'RE NOT BUYING FUEL, RIGHT? WE'RE PROBABLY THE BIGGEST PURCHASER OF FUEL ON THE FIELD, I WOULD IMAGINE WE'D PROBABLY BUY MORE FUEL THAN ANYONE. SO HAVING THE AIRPORT OPERATIONAL, VERY IMPORTANT FOR US. TIMELY NOTICE, WE LIKE TO, TO WORK WITH, UM, STAFF ON THIS AND, UM, LET OUR CLIENTS KNOW. SO WE'VE GOT A, YOU KNOW, AN EMAIL THAT WE'VE GOTTA SEND OUT. WE'VE GOT STAFF THAT WE HAVE TO SAY, HEY, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LITTLE VACATION. I'VE ALREADY GOT ONE, UM, STAFF MEMBER THAT'S, UH, RENTING AN AIRSTREAM, AND HE'S GOING BACK TO, UM, I THINK HE SAID ZION NATIONAL PARK DURING OUR, OUR TIME OFF.
SO THE AIRPORT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT, BUT I HAVE TO LOOK BACK TO EMERGENCY SITUATIONS. LOMA PRITA EARTHQUAKE, WE HAD PEOPLE, A GROUP OF PEOPLE FLYING SUPPLIES FROM HERE TO WATSONVILLE, RIGHT? THE NEXT, WHAT WAS OUR NEXT LARGE DISASTER THAT WE HAD, UM, PEOPLE FLYING OUT OF. I'M SURE TOM REMEMBERS WE'VE HAD SEVERAL, BUT MOST RECENTLY, THE FIRES, RIGHT? THE AIRPORT WAS SHUT DOWN FOR WHAT, TWO WEEKS? IT BECAME A HELI ATTACK BASE. WE HAD 30 HELICOPTERS AT THE AIRPORT WITH ALL THE SUPPORT EQUIPMENT, THE CREWS, THE TRUCKS. I MEAN, THE AIRPORT WAS JUST A FANTASTIC, UM, USE OF, OF MATERIAL AND PEOPLE. SO THE AIRPORT IS, IS VERY VITAL TO BE IN OPEN. AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE SOME SMALL INCONVENIENT TYPE OF SHUTDOWNS THAT COST THE AIRPORT IN THE WAY OF THE FUEL. I KNOW OVER THE YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THIS, THIS AIRPORT, WE'RE PROBABLY ON THE FOURTH OR FIFTH GENERATION OF OUR FUEL FARM. WE'VE HAD ISSUES OVER THE YEARS THAT'S BEEN PAINFUL. WHENEVER THE FUEL FARM'S DOWN, THAT MEANS WE'RE NOT OUTTA BUSINESS, BUT IT DOES MEAN WE'VE GOTTA FLY ELSEWHERE TO BUY FUEL. SO I USUALLY FLY OVER TO SONOMA SKY PARK, WE GET OUR FUEL THERE, THEY HAVE COMPARABLE PRICES, AND THAT TAKES TIME OUT OF OUR INSTRUCTOR'S ABILITY TO HAVE A LESSON WITH THEIR CLIENT. WE TYPICALLY SCHEDULE A TWO HOUR LESSON. SO IF I'M SPENDING TIME FLYING OVER TO SONOMA SKY PARK, THAT'S TIME OUT OF THE CLIENT'S LESSON. THAT'S REALLY NOT FAIR TO THEM. SO I HOPE IN THE FUTURE WE THINK AHEAD FOR THAT, THAT NEXT FUEL FARM ISSUE THAT INEVITABLY IS GONNA COME UP. SO LET'S, LET'S HOPE WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO THAT AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET FUEL OUT OF OUR TANKS. WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IN THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE A MAJOR EMERGENCY AROUND HERE? WHAT IF THERE'S NO ELECTRICITY? WHAT IF THE PUMPS FAIL AND WE'VE GOT 8,000 GALLONS SITTING IN THE TANK AND WE CAN'T GET IT OUT. SO LET'S LOOK AHEAD FOR THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
THERE IS A, A CIVIC GROUP, I THINK HERE IN THE NORTH BAY THAT IS, UM, WORKING TOWARDS DISASTER RELIEF. I THINK THAT'S PART OF THEIR NAME. DART IS, IS NANCY PROBABLY KNOWS AND THEY'RE COORDINATING WITH A NUMBER OF THE LOCAL AIRPORTS. SO IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO FLY DISASTER MISSIONS. OH, THE OTHER THING I WAS THINKING ABOUT IN, UM, EMERGENCY TYPE OF THINGS. SOME OF YOU WERE HERE FOR THE POLY CLASS SITUATION, AND THERE WAS A GROUP OF PILOTS BACK THEN THAT ORGANIZED AND FLEW SEARCH MISSIONS LOOKING FOR POLY. OF COURSE, THAT THAT DIDN'T COME TO FRUITION. BUT THEY WERE THERE. PILOTS ARE VERY GENEROUS IN NATURE. THEY FLEW THOSE MISSIONS ON THEIR OWN, PAID FOR IT ON THEIR OWN. SO OUR AIRPORT IS AN ABSOLUTE VITAL TOOL, AND IT'S A PART OF THIS, THIS NORTH BAY. AND WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN, WHEN WE ARE GOING FORWARD, WHEN WE HAVE THESE KIND OF PROJECTS. AND AGAIN, I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING THE AIRPORT. UM, OUR AIRPORT IS A GEM. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I'VE GONE SOMEWHERE AND YOU GET TALKING WITH PILOTS, WE ALL LOVE TO TALK. AND THEY SAY, WELL, WHERE ARE YOU FROM? YOU SAY, PETALUMA. THEY GO, OH MY GOD, THAT'S SUCH A BEAUTIFUL AIRPORT. AND THEY GO ON AND ON ABOUT IT. AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE. WE'VE HAD SOME PEOPLE MOVE FROM OTHER AIRPORTS COME TO OUR AIRPORT JUST BECAUSE OF HOW FRIENDLY IT IS. THE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE. IT IS WHAT WE'D CALL AN ALL WEATHER AIRPORT. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF INSTRUMENT APPROACHES. SO YOU CAN FLY IN WHEN THE WEATHER'S BAD. WE HAVE THE A OS YOU WERE SPEAKING TO THAT.
THE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE. IT IS WHAT WE'D CALL AN ALL WEATHER AIRPORT. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF INSTRUMENT APPROACHES. SO YOU CAN FLY IN WHEN THE WEATHER'S BAD. WE HAVE THE A OS YOU WERE SPEAKING TO THAT. AND I HOPE THAT MESSAGE GOES OUT ON THE A OS NOTAMS YOU WERE SPEAKING TO, THAT IT IS A NOAM. GET THAT MESSAGE OUT BECAUSE THE CHARTER COMPANIES THAT COME IN THEIR DISPATCHERS BY REGULATION HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NOAM S THEY HAVE TO, THAT'S A PART OF THEIR DISPATCHING RESPONSIBILITY. AND SO IT'S GONNA BE THERE THAT THEY'RE GONNA FIND OUT THAT THE RUNWAY IS IS CLOSED. SO WE NEED TO GET THAT WORD OUT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK THANKS, MARK. UM, RON MANGAN. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, COUNCIL MEMBER. UH, MY NAME'S RON. RON MANGON. I AM THE OWNER OF MANGA MANGON AIRCRAFT AND PELHAM PIE TRAINING CENTER. UH, THIS IS A SIDE NOTE, I FIND OUT IRONIC, THE TWO DATES THAT YOU SHOWED CLOSURE AND YOU GOT AIRPLANES ON THOSE. BOTH OF THOSE ARE MY AIRPLANES. THE ONE FOR THE TAXIWAY IS A MAINTENANCE CUSTOMER, COMES UP FROM LA. THE OTHER ONE FOR RUNWAY IS ONE OF MY, UH, FLIGHT SCHOOL AIRPLANES THAT, UH, FLIES EVERY DAY, NOT . YEAH. SO ANYWAYS, UH, KIND KIND OF SET THE TONE THAT SEND THE TONE. IRONIC, I WAS HOPING THAT SOMEBODY FROM MEAD HUNT WOULD BE HERE TONIGHT TOO. I'M KIND OF DISAPPOINTED, UH, BEING THEY'RE SUCH A KEY PLAYER THAT THEY'RE NOT HERE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, LEADS ME TO, UH, MORE WORRY BECAUSE, UH, HISTORY, UH, NOSS FIELD, NOSS FIELD HAD A CLOSURE FOR RUNWAY, UH, REHABILITATION. AND IT WAS ONLY SUPPOSED TO LAST 30 DAYS. IT LASTED 98 DAYS, AND THEY DID SOIL SAMPLING AND ALL THAT. AND EVIDENTLY, UH, THEY DID CORES, I GUESS ALL THE WAY DOWN THE RUNWAY, CORE SAMPLING. BUT WHEN THEY ACTUALLY TURNED DIRT, UH, THEY FOUND THAT THE UNDERLYING, UH, BASE MATERIAL HAS ASBESTOS IN IT. AND SO, UH, GINA, UH, UH, TOUCHED ON, YOU KNOW, A GEOTECH REPORT.
AND IT WAS ONLY SUPPOSED TO LAST 30 DAYS. IT LASTED 98 DAYS, AND THEY DID SOIL SAMPLING AND ALL THAT. AND EVIDENTLY, UH, THEY DID CORES, I GUESS ALL THE WAY DOWN THE RUNWAY, CORE SAMPLING. BUT WHEN THEY ACTUALLY TURNED DIRT, UH, THEY FOUND THAT THE UNDERLYING, UH, BASE MATERIAL HAS ASBESTOS IN IT. AND SO, UH, GINA, UH, UH, TOUCHED ON, YOU KNOW, A GEOTECH REPORT. WELL, WHAT THE GEOTECH REPORT'S WRONG. AND SO ALL OF A SUDDEN WE WE GO, UH, I KNOW WE'RE NOT SHUTTING OUT FOR 30 DAYS AND HOPEFULLY NOT 98 DAYS, BUT, UH, ARE WE GONNA TRIPLE IT? LIKE, LIKE NOSS FIELD DID, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S AN AN UNVARIABLE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE GOT PLANNED FOR, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE DISRUPTION PLAN FOR THE BUSINESSES? DOES THE CITY HAVE, YOU KNOW, I PAY MY LEASE OR LICENSE OR WHERE, UH, POLITICALLY LIKE TO CALL IT, I PAY THAT, UH, PRIVILEGE TO HAVE A RUNWAY AND HAVE A TAX AWAY. MY BUSINESS BOTH FOR MAINTENANCE AND THE FLIGHT SCHOOL COME IN FROM RUNWAY. THOSE COME IN FROM SKY RANCH, DR. UH, DRIVE. AND SO WHERE'S THE CITY GONNA COMPENSATE? UH, MYSELF AND THE OTHER TENANTS, THEY'RE PAYING, YOU KNOW, HANGER FEES, TIE DOWN FEES TO USE RUNWAY. THEY'RE NOT, UH, PAYING THOSE FEES TO STORE AN AIR AIRPLANE THERE TO SAY, I HAVE AN AIRPLANE. LOOK AT ME. THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THERE TO USE IT.
AND SO WHERE'S THE CITY GONNA COMPENSATE? UH, MYSELF AND THE OTHER TENANTS, THEY'RE PAYING, YOU KNOW, HANGER FEES, TIE DOWN FEES TO USE RUNWAY. THEY'RE NOT, UH, PAYING THOSE FEES TO STORE AN AIR AIRPLANE THERE TO SAY, I HAVE AN AIRPLANE. LOOK AT ME. THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THERE TO USE IT. AND THEN WHEN YOU NEGOTIATE THE, UH, CONTRACT WITH THE, UH, CONTRACTOR, UH, WITHDRAWAL, IS THERE ANY CLAUSE OR ANYTHING IN THERE? IF THEY DON'T DO STUFF ON TIME, DO THEY HAVE ANY SKIN IN THE GAME AS FAR AS A PENALIZED UH, PAYMENT OR SOMETHING, UH, YOU KNOW, GIVE 'EM MOTIVATION TO FINISH THE PROJECT? DO THEY HAVE MOTIVATION? WHO, WHO NEGOTIATED A CONTRACT AND YOU, US KNOW, YOU KNOW, IS THAT, UH, BRENDAN? AND THEN, UH, UH, NANCY, I LO LOVE YOUR UP, YOU KNOW, UPDATES. UH, YOUR UPS ARE RIGHT. EVEN THERE'S, IF THERE'S NO UPDATES, GIMME AN UPDATE. I, I LEARNED EARLY IN LIFE THAT, UH, COMMUNICATION IS THE AXLE GREASE OF COMMAND, AND IT MAKES YOU'VE, UH, I NEED TO CALL A CUSTOMER. GO, LOOK, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR YOU, BUT YOU'RE ON MY MIND. I YOU'RE IMPORTANT TO ME. IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT DISRUPTION PLAN AND ABOUT, UH, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE, THE CONTRACT WITH THE, UH, CON CONTRACTOR WITH JULY, IF YOU KNOW, MOTIVATION TO FINISH EARLY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, RON. UH, NEXT SPEAKER. DANIELLE, IF YOU'D LIKE. YES, RYAN? NO. OKAY. SO PUBLIC COMMENTS, CLOSED CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO SPEAK TO SOME, SOME OF THE COMMENTS? UM, SURE WOULD LOVE THAT. YEAH.
DANIELLE, IF YOU'D LIKE. YES, RYAN? NO. OKAY. SO PUBLIC COMMENTS, CLOSED CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO SPEAK TO SOME, SOME OF THE COMMENTS? UM, SURE WOULD LOVE THAT. YEAH. SO, UH, ME, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS, I'M NOT GONNA DO THESE IN ORDER BECAUSE I DIDN'T WRITE THEM DOWN IN ORDER, BUT, UM, ME AND HUNT, THE QUESTION CAME UP, WHY ARE THEY NOT HERE TONIGHT? THEY'RE NOT HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE, UM, I, THEY OFFERED, AND I THOUGHT THAT WITH OUR PRINCIPAL ENGINEER AND MYSELF, WE COULD ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP. UH, THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY, THEY OFFERED TO BE HERE. THEY, AND THEY'RE HAPPY TO ENGAGE. AND, AND IF AT ANY POINT, UM, WE FEEL THAT DOING, UH, A, A, UH, A COMMUNI, UM, AN AIRPORT COMMUNITY MEETING, UH, AT THE AIRPORT WITH, WITH TENANTS, UM, THAT WE COULD BRING THEM IN ON AND, UH, AND BE AVAILABLE, WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN. UM, IT, IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT WAS NEEDED THIS EVENING, AND SO I LET THEM TAKE THE EVENING OFF, BUT WE CAN BACKFILL IF THERE'S A NEED OR, UH, OR, YOU KNOW, UH, A REASON TO DO SO. SO THEY'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. WE, WE WERE ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT THIS IS A IN-PERSON MEETING, AND SO WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET BETTER ENGAGEMENT IF WE HELD THAT VIRTUALLY AS WELL. GREAT. UM, AS, UH, UH, THE QUESTION CAME UP ABOUT COMPENSATION CITY COMP COMPENSATING, UH, LOSSES DURING THE RUNWAY SHUTDOWN. THE CITY, UH, IS NOT IN THE POSITION TO COMPENSATE LOSSES. NEVER HAS. I THINK THE LAST SHUTDOWN I I MENTIONED IN MY REPORT WAS, WAS A 30 DAY-ISH SHUTDOWN. AND I'M SURE WE DID NOT COMPENSATE DURING THAT SHUTDOWN EITHER. UM, AND, UH, WHILE I CAN APPRECIATE AND, AND SYMPATHIZE WITH, UH, UH, WITH THE STRESS THAT THIS PUTS ON OUR TENANTS, AND PARTICULARLY OUR COMMERCIAL TENANTS, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT AN UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE TO NEED TO MAINTAIN FOR SAFETY. OUR AIRPORT RUNWAYS AND TAXIWAYS.
IF WE DON'T DO THESE PROJECTS, IF WE CONTINUE RUNNING ON OUR RUNWAYS WITH NO SHUTDOWNS, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO SHUT THEM DOWN BECAUSE OF, OF THE INCONVENIENCE AND THE FINANCIAL COST, WE WILL NOT HAVE AN AIRPORT TO, TO LAND OUR AIRPLANES ON. UM, AND, AND IT, IT, THE PROJECT NEEDS TO BE SEEN FROM THAT SAFETY STANDPOINT AND FROM A, AN, UH, THE PERSPECTIVE OF, UH, OPERATIONAL NECESSITY. AND I, I AM, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW A BETTER WAY TO UNDERSTAND THAT. UM, AND, AND THAT IS WHY WE'VE APPROACHED THESE PROJECTS, UH, THE WAY WE HAVE. UM, UH, WAS THERE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES IN THE CONTRACT? THAT WASN'T THE EXPRESSION THAT WAS USED, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE QUESTION IS. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT ANSWER. JOSH, DO YOU KNOW, WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK THAT DOUBLE CHECK THAT IN THE SPECS AND GET BACK TO YOU. UM, LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE LOOKING IT UP NOW, . I AM. BUT, UM, I, I WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT, UM, OUR, THE CONTRACT AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY BID DID INCLUDE A LOT MORE RUNWAY SHUTDOWN, UM, PERMISSIBLE. AND WE BROUGHT THAT DOWN FROM, YOU KNOW, THE, WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY 23 DAYS DOWN TO 10 DAYS TOTAL. UM, SO I THINK THAT'S A, A SIGNIFICANT, UH, ACHIEVEMENT. BUT WITH THAT SAID, I THINK WITHIN THE CONTRACT THERE ARE CERTAIN LIMITS TO WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT RECOUP. UM, SO GOING BEYOND THAT, WE DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE THOSE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES AVAILABLE. OKAY. THANKS. UM, I ALSO, UM, UM, KEENLY AWARE OF, OF THE, THE COMMENT MADE ABOUT NOTICING BEING AN IMPERATIVE AND, UM, REALLY A, YOU KNOW, FOR ANY BUSINESS, BEING ABLE TO ANTICIPATE AND PLAN IS 90% OF THE BATTLE. AND IT'S WHY THIS SCHEDULE IS PUSHED OUT A MONTH PLUS FROM WHERE WE ORIGINALLY HAD IT. AND, AND, UM, I, I HAVE, I HAVE TO BE, UM, I HAD TO BE MINDFUL THAT IF WE PUSHED THE PROJECT OUT TOO FAR TO PROVIDE EVEN MORE NOTICE THEN THE TAXI WAY, TAXI LANE B PROJECT, WHICH, UM, CAN'T START TILL THIS PROJECT FINISHES WOULD BE PUSHED OUT SO FAR THAT WE WOULD BE RISKING, UM, ENTERING INTO THE NEXT WET WEATHER WINDOW.
AND AGAIN, JEOPARDIZING THE COMPLETION OF THAT PROJECT. SO WE, WE TRIED TO PUSH THIS OUT TO A, A, A REASONABLE LIMIT WHERE WE COULD KNOW WE COULD STILL COMPLETE BOTH PROJECTS AND STAY WELL WITHIN THE DRY WEATHER WINDOW AND, UH, AND PROVIDE A GOOD MONTH PLUS NOTICE FOR THE, FOR THE SHUTDOWN WINDOWS. UM, UH, I'VE, UH, I'VE DONE MY BEST TO ADDRESS THE NOTICING, BUT I REALIZE IT'S NEVER GONNA FEEL LIKE ENOUGH. UH, AND, UH, I, I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. AND AM I MISSING SOMETHING? HELP ME, UM, IS, THERE WAS AN EARLIER QUESTION ABOUT WORK HOURS, UM, WHILE I WAS LOOKING SOMETHING ELSE UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, SO THE, THE CONTRACT STANDARD HOURS ARE 7:00 AM TO 4:00 PM UM, BUT WITH THAT, WE HAVE SOME DISCRETION TO ALLOW WITH WRITTEN APPROVAL, UM, THE EXTENDED WORK HOURS, WHICH WOULD BE FOCUSED DURING THOSE SHUTDOWNS IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE OUR TIGHT TIMELINES. UM, THANK YOU. SO WAS IT, SO BEING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE SUN DOESN'T REALLY SET UNTIL 9:00 PM WAS IT EVER DISCUSSED THE POTENTIAL OF RELOCATING THAT EQUIPMENT SO THAT OPERATIONS COULD TAKE PLACE FROM SAY, 4:30 PM THROUGH THE FOLLOWING MORNING? WE DID DISCUSS THAT, AND IT'S NOT JUST THE EQUIPMENT WHILE IT'S IN OPERATION, IT'S THAT THOSE EDGE TREATMENTS, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE PUT BACK AND WE SIMPLY CAN'T DO THAT. YOU CAN'T LEAVE ANYTHING DUG OUT IN THAT ZONE, IN THAT SAFETY ZONE. SO THANK YOU JOSH, FOR REMINDING ME. I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT SOONER, BUT YEAH, SO WE'LL HAVE VERTICAL OFFSETS. UM, AGAIN, THEY'RE DOING THIS IN TWO LIFTS AND, UM, DURING PART OF THAT TIME, THE OFFSET'S GONNA BE QUITE SIGNIFICANT. MM-HMM.
YOU CAN'T LEAVE ANYTHING DUG OUT IN THAT ZONE, IN THAT SAFETY ZONE. SO THANK YOU JOSH, FOR REMINDING ME. I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT SOONER, BUT YEAH, SO WE'LL HAVE VERTICAL OFFSETS. UM, AGAIN, THEY'RE DOING THIS IN TWO LIFTS AND, UM, DURING PART OF THAT TIME, THE OFFSET'S GONNA BE QUITE SIGNIFICANT. MM-HMM. UM, UH, TOTAL DEPTH IS 30, UH, 30 INCHES PLUS THE ASPHALT DEPTH. UM, RIGHT. SO GOING BACK TO WHAT ALEX HAD PROPOSED IS CREATING A, SOME SORT OF TEMPORARY ACCESS ROAD TO THE RUNWAY, BYPASSING THE TAXIWAY ISN'T REALLY EVEN AN OPTION IN THAT CASE, RIGHT? NO, BECAUSE THE SHUTDOWN IS BASED ON THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING ON THE, ON THE TAXIWAY. UM, IT, IT, IT, EVEN IF WE CREATED ANOTHER ACCESS PATH TO THE RUNWAY, IT WOULD STILL BE SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING ADJACENT TO IT ON THE TAXIWAY. JUST TO ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE FAA NOT ONLY DOESN'T ALLOW EQUIPMENT IN THAT AREA AND ALSO DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO LEAVE A BIG DITCH OR A BIG PIT, EVEN A SMALL ONE. YEAH. WHICH YOU WILL HAVE, WHICH WILL BE PART OF THE WORK. SO EVEN IF YOU GOT THE EQUIPMENT OFF, YOU STILL HAVE THIS BIG HOLE IN GROUND AND THAT'S INSIDE THE SAFETY ZONE. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT IF, IF WE COULD CREATE AN EXTRA ACCESS POINT, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A SHUTDOWN IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT IT , UM, AND THEN ANOTHER SHUTDOWN TO RESTORE AFTER IT'S USED LONGER SHUTDOWNS, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE MORE WORK. I HAVE A QUESTION, JOSH. UM, THIS EXPANSES SOIL, I KNOW IT'S A BUGGER. UM, HAS THIS PROCESS BEEN DONE SOMEWHERE ELSE? DO YOU KNOW ALL OVER THE CITY OF PETALUMA, , ? YEAH.
IT THIS, WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, UH, CEMENT TREATMENT. SO THE COMPANY THAT SPECIALIZES IN THIS, THAT WILL BE THE SUBCONTRACTOR, THEY'VE DONE THIS ALL OVER THE PLACE. UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY SPECIALIZED IN IT. UM, WE HAVE DONE LYME TREATMENT, UM, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THE CEMENT TREATMENT, UM, IS BASICALLY A, A MORE ROBUST METHOD OF THAT. UM, ALSO, DO YOU ANTICIPATE ANY ISSUES? ANTICIPATE NO PLAN FOR YES. THAT MIGHT EXTEND THE TIME CLOSURE OR SOMETHING THAT, THAT IS PRECISELY WHY WE HAVEN'T SAID THAT THIS SCHEDULE IS FINAL YET. SO WE WANNA REALLY HONE IN ON EVERY LITTLE DETAIL AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ROCK SOLID ON IT. UM, THOSE GOALPOSTS WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT IN, BUT WE WANNA REALLY GO THROUGH EVERYTHING WITH THE FINE TOOTH COMB, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT MISSING SOMETHING. OKAY. WILL THIS BE AVAILABLE AT THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING? UH, SORRY, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? WELL, YOUR FINAL, HOPEFULLY LONG BEFORE THAT, BEFORE THAT , I'M HOPING TO, TO BE ABLE TO, TO, UM, FINALIZE THE SCHEDULE THIS WEEK. HMM, OKAY. UM, I KNOW IT'S NOT EXACTLY PROPER, BUT IF I COULD ASK THE AUDIENCE, UM, SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW IT'S GONNA IMPACT THEIR BUSINESS, UM, IS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS POSSIBLE, BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO, UM, YOU KNOW, FLIGHTS OUT OF SONSONA SKY PARK OR GO TO NOS, YOU KNOW, HAVE INSTRUCTORS MEET STUDENTS THERE? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, IT'S, UM, MARK ASHTON, DANIELLE KURTZ, HELUM PILOT TRAINING CENTER. IT'S PRETTY DISRUPTIVE, UM, TO FLY OUT OF ELSEWHERE. UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE FLY TWO HOUR BLOCKS OF TIME, AND THAT'S A PRETTY CONCENTRATED LESSON.
SO IF WE WERE TO FLY PERHAPS OUT OF, AND WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THAT, I SHOULD SAY, I'VE DONE THAT. AND, UM, SOME OTHER SENIOR INSTRUCTORS, WE'VE DONE THAT AT OTHER AIRPORTS WITH OTHER FLIGHT SCHOOLS, AND YOU WIND UP LOSING A LOT OF TIME, UM, OVER, OVER THE BIG SCHEME OF THINGS. UM, TIME DRIVING TO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE DRIVE DOWN TO NA ENOS, WHETHER WE DRIVE UP TO SANTA ROSA, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE RAMP SPACE AVAILABLE FOR US. UM, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD A SHUT DOWN, WE DID THAT WITH A DIFFERENT FLIGHT SCHOOL, WENT DOWN TO ENOS, FLEW OUT OF THERE. AND IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, IT WAS MORE OF A GRIEF THAN IT WAS OF, OF A BENEFIT. UM, IT'S, IT SOUNDS LIKE, OH, THAT'S EASY. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO JUST GET IN THE DRIVE DOWN THERE, GET IN THE PLANE AND GO. AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT TENDS TO HAPPEN, UNLESS YOU HAVE AIRPORT MANAGEMENT AT THOSE AIRPORTS, UM, ALONG ON YOUR, ON YOUR SIDE, SO TO SPEAK, ENCROACHING ON ANOTHER BUSINESS, BRINGING ALL YOUR PLANES DOWN, YOUR PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, AIRPORTS LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE THE FLIGHT SCHOOL AT PETALUMA AT ANA, IT'S SCANLON AVIATION AT NAPA, IT'S SMITH AVIATION AT SANTA ROSA, IT'S NORTH COAST. AND WE KNOW ALL THOSE PRINCIPALS. WE KNOW WHO, WHO THE OWNERS ARE. WE KNOW THEIR FLIGHT INSTRUCTORS. UM, WE MEET WITH THEM ON A FAIRLY REGULAR BASIS THROUGH, UM, THE FAA AND WITH, UH, SAFETY MEETINGS. SO WE KNOW THE ENTITIES INVOLVED. AND IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN SOMEONE COMES ON OUR AIRPORT, I SAY, OUR AIRPORT, HOW ABOUT THAT, , WHEN THEY COME ONTO PETALUMA AND THEY'RE DOING BUSINESS, LET'S SAY OUT OF THE BACK OF THEIR CAR, OKAY, WELL, DANIELLE HAS PAID THE INSURANCES AND, AND EVERYTHING, THE RENT AND EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH BRICK AND MORTAR AT OUR AIRPORT. AND SO FOR SOMEONE TO COME IN AND RUN A BUSINESS OUT OF THE BACK OF THEIR CAR, THEY'RE AT A HUGE ADVANTAGE AND WE'RE AT A DISADVANTAGE.
SO WHEN WE PICK UP AND GO ELSEWHERE, WE'RE KIND OF INVADING THAT SPACE AS WELL. AND SO, AND I'VE EVEN LOOKED INTO DOING THAT, YOU KNOW, BEING AN ACTUAL BUSINESS. I'VE CALLED THE VATO, SAID, HEY, WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO TO WORK OUTTA HERE WHILE OUR AIRPORT IS SHUT DOWN? MM-HMM . AND THE HOOPS THAT YOU HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH IS JUST NOT REASONABLE, TRUTHFULLY. OKAY. NO, UNDERSTOOD. AND I'M SURE YOU'D CONSIDER ALL THAT. I JUST, UH, FROM MY OWN UNDERSTANDING, WANTED TO ASK YOU. YEAH, NO, IT'S A, IT'S A FAIR QUESTION. AND YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE, AGAIN, I JUST HAVE TO SAY, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING HERE. I APPRECIATE THE, THE SCHEDULE TIGHTENING UP. UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN FOR THE, THE SITUATION AND, UM, THAT, THAT IS APPRECIATED BY US. UM, IT'S JUST THAT WE NEED THAT NOTIFICATION SO WE CAN HAVE OUR PEOPLE GO TO ZION WITH A AIRSTREAM, , YOU KNOW, AND THAT I CAN GET ON AN AIRPLANE AND GO TO HAWAII FOR A WEEK. SO, UM, AND THEN AGAIN, WHEN, WHEN WITH FLYING, IT'S KIND OF A STRANGE SITUATION WHEN PEOPLE HAVE SOME TIME OFF, UM, ESPECIALLY IN THE EXTENDED TIME, THEY TEND TO JUST LIKE, OH, THEY FADE AWAY. AND YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE EITHER AN AIRPLANE DOWN OR INSTRUCTOR IS GONE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU LOOK ON THE SCHEDULE AND YOU SAY, WELL, WHERE'S MARY LOU? WE HAVEN'T SEEN HER IN A WHILE. WELL, OUR INSTRUCTOR HAS BEEN OFF FOR TWO WEEKS. GAL VENTING ABOUT EUROPE. SO, UM, WHEN, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE TIME OFF FROM FLYING, THEY JUST KIND OF DISAPPEAR. THEY NEED THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE EITHER AN AIRPLANE DOWN OR INSTRUCTOR IS GONE FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU LOOK ON THE SCHEDULE AND YOU SAY, WELL, WHERE'S MARY LOU? WE HAVEN'T SEEN HER IN A WHILE. WELL, OUR INSTRUCTOR HAS BEEN OFF FOR TWO WEEKS. GAL VENTING ABOUT EUROPE. SO, UM, WHEN, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE TIME OFF FROM FLYING, THEY JUST KIND OF DISAPPEAR. THEY NEED THAT. COME IN, COME IN, GO FLYING, GO FLYING. 'CAUSE IT'S ONLY TWO HOURS AND IT'S A LOT TO TAKE IN, IN TWO HOURS PER, PER LESSON. I HAD JUST A QUESTION I THOUGHT OF, IS THERE GONNA BE A SWEEPER, UM, AROUND AND ON THE TAXIWAYS THAT ARE OPEN, UM, PICKING UP EXCESS GRAVEL AND CONSTRUCTION STUFF? UM, BECAUSE WE DO STRUGGLE WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOSE GRAVEL AND THE PROPELLERS. THAT IS, THAT IS AN ISSUE. UM, AND I KNOW WE, WE'VE SPOKE, UM, ABOUT, UM, LOOSE GRAVEL, SO, UM, THAT THAT'S AN ISSUE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR US? NO, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. SO SHOULD WE MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES? UM, I'LL JUST SAY REAL QUICK, I, I, UM, I KNOW THIS KIND OF CAME AS A SHOCK TO EVERYBODY. UM, AND YOU KNOW, GINA, YOU'VE KIND OF JUMPED INTO DAN'S SEAT. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I, I DO APPRECIATE, UM, STAFF'S EFFORT IN, IN MINIMIZING THE CLOSURE TIME AND KIND OF PUSHING THE DATES OUT TO GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY CAN DO HERE. SO THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PROVIDED. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. MINUTES ARE APPROVED, UM, MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION, PUBLIC HEARINGS, COMMITTEE COMMENT, [COMMITTEE COMMENT] UM, COUNCIL UPDATE.
I'LL SECOND. OKAY. MINUTES ARE APPROVED, UM, MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION, PUBLIC HEARINGS, COMMITTEE COMMENT, [COMMITTEE COMMENT] UM, COUNCIL UPDATE. UM, WE HAVEN'T DONE VERY MUCH AT COUNCIL, BUT I DID GET A NOTIFICATION FROM SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO ASKED ME IF I COULD MENTION, UM, THERE IS A GROUP CALLED FLYING TAILS THAT BROUGHT SOME ORPHANED BADGER CUBS, UM, LIFTED THEM OUT AT PETALUMA AIRPORT, UM, TOOK THEM TO A SAFER SPOT. AND SO SHE WANTED TO THANK THE AIRPORT, YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN THAT. UPDATES NOT ON HANG, WE HAVEN'T TALKED MUCH. NO, NOT ON HANGER MAINTENANCE OR THE WAIT LIST POLICY. I THINK WE WERE WAITING, UM, UNTIL WE HAVE OUR NEW MANAGER ON BOARD TO GET UP TO SPEED ON THAT. SO I, I WOULDN'T EXPECT ANYTHING ON THAT PROBABLY UNTIL THE JULY OR AUGUST MEETING. UH, ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS AT ALL? I HAD, GO AHEAD. NO, NO, YOU GO FIRST. UM, I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS. UM, FIRST IF, ARE YOU GONNA GIVE A MANAGER'S REPORT TONIGHT, GINA? YES. OKAY. I CAN WAIT. THESE CAN WAIT TILL AFTER THE MANAGER'S REPORT THEN. YEAH. I HAD A, A COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO SAY. UM, FIRST OFF, AS I'M SURE YOU GUYS KNOW, I'M GETTING CLOSE TO THE END OF MY TERM. YEAH. UM, NEXT MONTH WILL BE IT. UM, I STARTED BACK IN 1997, SO I THINK I PAID MY DUES.
OKAY. I CAN WAIT. THESE CAN WAIT TILL AFTER THE MANAGER'S REPORT THEN. YEAH. I HAD A, A COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO SAY. UM, FIRST OFF, AS I'M SURE YOU GUYS KNOW, I'M GETTING CLOSE TO THE END OF MY TERM. YEAH. UM, NEXT MONTH WILL BE IT. UM, I STARTED BACK IN 1997, SO I THINK I PAID MY DUES. UM, AND THE THING THAT GOT ME INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN THE COMMISSION WAS TO ENSURE THE BEST I COULD, THAT THE LEGACY THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE INITIAL GROUP OF PETALUMA AREA PILOTS TO ESTABLISH THE CURRENT AIRPORT WE HAVE AND WORK FROM THE AIRPORT. WE STARTED WITH PRIVATELY DEVELOPED BY A HUSBAND AND WIFE TEAM, UM, THROUGH TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW. UM, I WANTED TO KEEP THAT GOING AND I FELT THAT WITH MY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE AND, UH, UM, IN MANAGING PROJECTS AND BUDGETS AND THAT SORT OF THING, THAT IT MIGHT ADD VALUE. SO I'M REALLY THANKFUL THAT YOU GUYS, UH, HAVE STEPPED UP AND CONTINUED THAT LEGACY AND TRADITION BECAUSE IT'S ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL. WE ALL KNOW OF AIRPORTS WHERE THAT DOESN'T EXIST AND WHERE PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF AN AIRPORT, GET ON A SUPERVISOR, REGROUP, UM, AND TEND TO DESTROY THE, UM, ENTITY, NOT GOOD.
UM, WE HAVE NOT REALLY HAD BIG PROBLEMS WITH THAT IN THE PAST, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT CONTINUES. AND, UM, OVER THE YEARS, UM, I'M SURE YOU GUYS KNOW I'VE DONE A NUMBER OF ECONOMIC IMPACT REVIEWS. WHAT VALUE DOES IN TERMS OF TOTAL BUSINESS DOES THE AIRPORT PROVIDE FOR THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY? AND THE LAST ONE I DID WAS IN 23, SO IT'S A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. AND THE TWO NINER DINER WAS NOT OPEN AT THE TIME, BUT AT THAT POINT, UM, USING A PROCESS THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY THE, UH, UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND BUSINESS SCHOOL AND USED BY THE AIRCRAFT OWNERS AND PILOTS ASSOCIATION, UM, USING THE LOW ESTIMATE OF REVENUE TURNOVER, OUR AIRPORT BACK IN 23 PROVIDED $45 MILLION A YEAR OF ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THE, TO THE PETALUMA COMMUNITY. AND AT THE TIME, I THINK THERE WERE 42 EMPLOYEES, THAT WAS BEFORE COVID WAS TOTALLY OVER, AND THE FLIGHT SCHOOL WAS BACK UP AT A HUNDRED PERCENT. SO IT'S PROBABLY EVEN HIGHER NOW. AND THE OTHER THING WAS THAT, UM, THE PROCESS WE'VE BEEN THROUGH FOR AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT OVER THE YEARS, UM, IN, I THINK IT WAS 2005, 2006 A OPA NAMED PETALUMA MUNICIPAL AS THE AIRPORT OTHERS IN THIS COUNTRY SHOULD ASPIRE TO BECOME. THAT'S PRETTY REMARKABLE. OUT OF 5,000 PLUS PUBLIC USE AIRPORTS IN THE COUNTRY. AND FOR A OPA TO CALL US THAT, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.
SO IT'S PROBABLY EVEN HIGHER NOW. AND THE OTHER THING WAS THAT, UM, THE PROCESS WE'VE BEEN THROUGH FOR AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT OVER THE YEARS, UM, IN, I THINK IT WAS 2005, 2006 A OPA NAMED PETALUMA MUNICIPAL AS THE AIRPORT OTHERS IN THIS COUNTRY SHOULD ASPIRE TO BECOME. THAT'S PRETTY REMARKABLE. OUT OF 5,000 PLUS PUBLIC USE AIRPORTS IN THE COUNTRY. AND FOR A OPA TO CALL US THAT, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. AND PART OF THAT, PART OF THE, THE REASON WE WERE RECOGNIZED THAT WAY WAS THE EFFORT WE WENT THROUGH TO DEVELOP THAT LAST HANGAR PROJECT BACK THAT WE FINISHED, I THINK IN 2005, EARLY 2006. UM, AND, UM, SINCE CITY STAFF WAS SOMEWHAT OCCUPIED, I SAID, OKAY, I'LL TAKE THAT PROJECT ON . AND I PRETTY WELL DID IT. AND SO FORTUNATELY I WAS ABLE TO USE SOME OF MY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE IN ENGINEERING AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND BUDGETS. UM, AND, UM, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING I LEARNED ON THAT PROJECT, WORKING WITH THE FAA, THE CITY, THE STATE, ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY, ON THE AIRPORT AND OFF, UM, AND THAT WHOLE PROCESS OF PLANNING AND IMPLEMENTATION, I DIDN'T WANT ANYONE ELSE TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT. THAT WAS TOUGH. AND SO A OPA PAID ME TO WRITE THE HOW TO NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S NOT IN PRINT ANYMORE SINCE PRINT IS SO OLD FASHIONED THESE DAYS. UM, BUT, UM, AIRCRAFT HANGAR DEVELOPMENT GUIDE, IT SHOWS I PUT IN HERE HOW TO DEVELOP A BUSINESS PLAN, HOW TO DO FINANCIAL ANALYSIS, HOW TO PLAN SCOPE, INTEGRATE ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS, EXECUTE A PROJECT ON TIME, UNDER BUDGET, HOPEFULLY, UH, FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL THOSE THAT ARE CONCERNED. AND SO, UH, YOU CAN, IT'S AVAILABLE ONLINE. I'M NOT SURE IF A OPA HAS IT ANYMORE.
LAST TIME I CHECKED THEY DID, BUT, UH, IT'S STILL THERE ONLINE. AND, UM, IN TERMS OF GOING FORWARD, IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP FUTURE OF THE AIRPORT, BE IT HANGAR DEVELOPMENT OR WHATEVER, THAT'S THE GUIDEBOOK AS NEAR AS I CAN TELL. AND, UM, I JUST WANNA TELL YOU ALL HAVE ENJOYED MY TIME IN, IN SPITE OF THE HEADACHES AT TIMES AND THE SWEATY LONG DAYS AT THE COMPUTER WORKING OUT STUFF. BUT, UH, IT'S CERTAINLY WORTH IT AND I JUST HOPE THAT YOU GUYS CAN CONTINUE THAT AND PASS THAT LEGACY ON TO THOSE OF YOURSELVES AND THOSE THAT FOLLOW, UH, GOING FORWARD. SO I GUESS I'LL BE WITH, UH, BARRY LAWRENCE AS, UH, , RETIRED AIRPORT COMMISSIONER. AND IF YOU GUYS NEED US TO, AS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, GO OUT AND INTEGRATE AND WORK WITH, UH, UH, DEPARTMENT HEADS IN THE CITY OR CITY MANAGERS, SHOULD THAT CHANGE IN THE FUTURE TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE LEGACY OF THE AIRPORT. I KNOW BARRY, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO HELP WITH THAT. SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT. I'M GONNA MISS YOU ALL. THANK YOU. YOU'LL BE HERE. OH, NEXT MONTH? NEXT MONTH. OKAY. THANK YOU, TOM. THAT WAS, UH, YEAH, YOU'VE BEEN A TREMENDOUS HELP TO EVERYBODY. UM, SO I GUESS IF WE'RE DONE WITH COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, ANYBODY, UM, THE REPORT. [STAFF COMMENT] OKAY. AM I BACK ON? YEP. GREAT. UH, I, UM, I, UH, START OFF THE DISCUSSION SECTION OF THE, I'M CALLING IT THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR REPORT. UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY YOUR AIRPORT MANAGER REPORT WITH, UM, A NEW FUEL PRICE TRACKER THAT I, I WAS SITTING THERE NOODLING AS I'M SEEING ALL OF THE TITAN AVIATION INVOICES COME IN AND THE PRICE CHANGES ROLLING IN. AND I'M THINKING TO MYSELF, WOW, HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAVE WE ACTUALLY SEEN? WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON? AND, UM, SO WE, UH, WITH THE HELP OF STAFF, UH, PUT TOGETHER A, UH, A FUEL PRICE TRACKER THERE HAS, SINCE I, SINCE WE DRAFTED THIS, UM, IT WAS ONE OF YOUR ATTACHMENTS TO THIS REPORT. IT'S CALLED 2026 FUEL PRICE TRACKER.
WE HAVE HAD AT LEAST ONE, TWO NOW SINCE THIS TWO PRICE INCREASES. UH, ONE, JUST ONE, OKAY. UM, UH, BUT I, UM, I JUST WENT THROUGH, UH, WE DON'T ALWAYS GET PRICE CHANGES FOR BOTH JET AND AGAS AT THE SAME TIME. THEY COME, WHEN THEY COME SOMETIMES TOGETHER, SOMETIMES SEPARATELY. UM, AND SO THIS IS BASICALLY TRACKING, UM, EACH OF THE CONSECUTIVE INCREASES THAT WE'VE SEEN. THESE ARE THE, THIS IS SHOWING YOU, UM, THE, UM, THE, THE PRICE CHANGES, UM, THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING OVER THE LAST FIVE MONTHS. WELL, ACTUALLY AT THE TIME OF THIS FOUR MONTHS. AND, UH, IT'S NOT INSIGNIFICANT IF, UM, THE PETALUMA AIRPORT PRICES ARE THE PRICES THAT WE'RE CHARGING AT THE PUMP. AND THE, UH, THAT'S THE SECOND TO LAST COLUMN. THE TITAN DELIVERY INVOICING PRICES ARE ON THE, ON THE FAR IN THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN. AND THEN THE DATES OF EACH OF THOSE INCREASES IT. I WAS CURIOUS, AND I JUST, I THOUGHT, WELL, IF I'M CURIOUS, I BET Y'ALL MIGHT BE. SO I'M JUST SHARING THAT TRACK AND IF YOU'RE, IF THERE'S INTEREST, WE CAN, WE CAN EASILY MANAGE TO UPDATE THIS, UM, THE NEXT MEETING. UM, WITH THAT SAID, I'VE ALSO INCLUDED THE YEAR TO DATE EXPENDITURE AND EXPENSE REPORTS THAT YOU'RE USED TO SEEING. THESE SHOULD BE THE SAME FORMAT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN RECEIVING AND THE SALES AND REPORT AND CARGO REPORT. I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO GENERATE THOSE. I'VE HAD SOME, UH, SOME ISSUES WITH THOSE REPORTS. AND SUFFICE IT TO SAY, MY INTENT IS TO GET THOSE DONE AND WHEN I HAVE THEM COMPLETE, POST THEM ON, ON OUR AIRPORT WEBSITE FOR YOUR USE AND FOR PUBLIC USE. AND I HOPE TO HAVE THOSE POSTED BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING. AND THEN, UH, UNDER OPERATIONS, A QUICK UPDATE ON OUR AIRPORT MANAGER RECRUITMENT, UH, BACKGROUND, UH, WORK IS COMPLETE AND, UH, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A FORMAL START DATE OF, UH, JUNE 8TH IS, IS WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING.
SO, UH, UH, OUR, UM, OUR NEW MANAGER WILL SPEND, UM, CERTAINLY A GOOD PART OF THAT FIRST DAY JUST ONBOARDING WITH OUR HR DEPARTMENT. AND, UM, HE'S ALREADY BEEN OUT TO THE AIRPORT A COUPLE OF TIMES, MEETING WITH STAFF MYSELF AND, UM, TOURING AROUND. HE'S ALREADY VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AIRPORT, AND, UH, I THINK HE'S GONNA BE READY TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING ESSENTIALLY ON THE EIGHTH. UH, I'M, I WILL BE CONTINUING TO, UH, UH, WORK HOURS OUT AT THE AIRPORT, SPEND TIME OUT THERE, UH, TO HELP ONBOARD AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE AS MUCH ACCESS AND TRAINING AS IS NEEDED. AND, UH, INTRODUCE, UH, INTRODUCE A NEW MANAGER AROUND. AND, UM, GENERALLY FACILITATE AN EASY AND COMFORTABLE TRANSITION TO OUR, WITH OUR NEW MANAGER. UH, I'LL CONTINUE TO ATTEND THESE MEETINGS AND PARTICIPATE, UM, WHEN AND IF NEEDED. UM, AND, UH, LOOKING VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, HAVING A VERY, UH, DYNAMIC, UH, NEW MANAGER, UH, ON BOARD VERY SOON. EXCITED FOR ALL OF YOU AND EXCITED FOR THE AIRPORT FIRE INSPECTIONS UPDATE. UM, WE HAVE BEEN, UH, WITH, UH, WITH OUR ASSISTANT FIRE MARSHAL. WE'VE BEEN, UH, UH, PERFORMING FIRE INSPECTIONS ON, UH, LEASED HANGERS. NOW. UH, WE'VE HAD TWO LARGE ROUNDS OF INSPECTIONS. UH, THE FIRST WAS CUT A LITTLE SHORT DUE TO ILLNESS, BUT, UH, WE PICKED BACK UP AND DID SEVERAL MORE THIS WEEK. UH, I BELIEVE ONLY ROSE 14 THROUGH 18 ARE REMAINING, UM, ON THE LEASE HANGERS. AND THEN, UH, SOMETIME IN LATER IN JUNE, WE'LL, UM, START THE INSPECTIONS ON THE, UM, ON THE, UM, PRIVATE HANGERS. AND TO DATE, THEY'VE GONE VERY WELL. VERY, YOU KNOW, THE CORRECTIONS ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT A, A LOT OF HUGE CORRECTIONS. NOTHING EGREGIOUS THAT WE DIDN'T EXPECT.
UH, I BELIEVE ONLY ROSE 14 THROUGH 18 ARE REMAINING, UM, ON THE LEASE HANGERS. AND THEN, UH, SOMETIME IN LATER IN JUNE, WE'LL, UM, START THE INSPECTIONS ON THE, UM, ON THE, UM, PRIVATE HANGERS. AND TO DATE, THEY'VE GONE VERY WELL. VERY, YOU KNOW, THE CORRECTIONS ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT A, A LOT OF HUGE CORRECTIONS. NOTHING EGREGIOUS THAT WE DIDN'T EXPECT. THE OCCASIONAL ITEMS HANGING FROM OUR AFTERAFTER. UM, SOME, YOU KNOW, ODDS AND ENDS THAT MAY NOT BELONG IN THOSE HANGERS. AND, UM, AND THERE ARE SOME, SOME ITEMS FOR THE CITY TO FOLLOW UP ON. UM, AND I DON'T HAVE THAT LIST IN FRONT OF ME, BUT, UM, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, MORE OR LESS, UH, WELL, WE DEFINITELY HAVE SOME, SOME MAJOR WORK THAT I NEED TO DO WITH SOME FIRE SPRINKLERS. WE KNEW THAT WAS COMING, AND THAT'S NOT REALLY RELATED TO OUR CITY. UM, FIRE INSPECTIONS, UH, THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS, UH, I KNEW ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE STARTED THOSE. UH, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME AREAS, UM, THAT, UM, THAT NEED SOME FIRE SPRINKLERS IN, UH, IN OUR COMMERCIAL HANGERS. SO, UH, WE'RE STARTING TO WORK ON, UM, ON IMPLEMENTING SOME, SOME IMPROVEMENTS THERE. AND THEN THERE WILL BE SMALLER THINGS, THESE MORE RECENT INSPECTIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, IT'S REALLY PRETTY STANDARD ITEMS THAT FIRE MARSHALS ASKING US TO FOLLOW UP ON. AND SO I'LL HAVE A PUNCH LIST AND I'LL BE TURNING OVER THAT WORK TO THE NEW MANAGER AND GOING THROUGH, UH, A WORK PLAN TO MAKE SURE WE, WE GET THROUGH ALL THAT. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. UM, IN THE, IN THE MARCH MINUTES, YOU SAID THAT, UH, TENANTS HAVE BEEN NOTICED. UH, I'M IN THE HANGAR ROSE 14 THROUGH 18. I HAVEN'T RECEIVED NOTICE, AND I KNOW MY HANGAR NEIGHBORS, SOME OF THEM WANNA BE ON SITE WHEN SOMEONE'S IN THE HANGAR. UM, AND THAT, I DON'T BELIEVE THE DATE'S BEEN SET YET. OKAY. OKAY. FOR 14 THROUGH 18, THEY'RE THE REMAINING ONES. AND AS SOON AS WE HAVE THAT DATE FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL OKAY. WE'LL SEND A NOTICE OUT AND INVITE ANY TENANTS WHO WANT TO BE THERE DURING THE INSPECTION.
OKAY. OKAY. FOR 14 THROUGH 18, THEY'RE THE REMAINING ONES. AND AS SOON AS WE HAVE THAT DATE FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL OKAY. WE'LL SEND A NOTICE OUT AND INVITE ANY TENANTS WHO WANT TO BE THERE DURING THE INSPECTION. BY ALL MEANS. THANK YOU. 'CAUSE I, YEAH, ABSOLUTE. THEY ASKED ME ABSOLUTELY IF THEY COULD BE ON SITE. ABSOLUTE, IT'S NOT NECESSARY, BUT WELCOME AND GREAT, AND IS OFTEN INFORMATIVE AND HELPFUL. HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU SEND OUT THE, HOW DO YOU CONTACT THE TENANTS? BY EMAIL. OKAY. UM, BY EMAIL. OKAY. I'LL ASK, I'LL TELL HIM TO LOOK FOR EMAIL. WE'RE NOT DOING ANY HARD COPY ON THAT. ARE WE, CLAUDIA? YEAH. OKAY. BY EMAIL. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. YEAH. AND IT'LL BE COMING FROM AIRPORT OR FROM CLAUDIA? IT'LL COME FROM CLAUDIA, YEAH. UM, PROJECT STA PROJECTS, UH, UPDATES ON PROJECTS. SO, UM, THIS WAS THE OTHER, UH, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT MORE, UH, INFORMATIVE PIECE THAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH EVERYONE. UH, LAST, UH, LAST WEEK, OUR COUNCIL, THIS WAS LAST WEEK, UH, HAD A OPPORTUNITY IN A, IN A WORKSHOP TO, UH, REALLY GO INTO A DEEP DIVE, UH, EXPLORING THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 26, 27 BUDGET THAT STAFF PRESENTED. AND IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS, TRY AND UNDERSTAND, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW AND WHERE, UH, UH, THE BUDGET WAS BEING PROPOSED. UH, AND, UM, LOOKING AT LONG TERM FORECAST, LONG RANGE FORECAST AS WELL FROM OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR. IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. AND THEN THIS MONDAY, A WEEK SUBSEQUENT TO THAT WORKSHOP, THE COUNCIL, UH, REVIEWED, UH, THE BUDGET AND, UH, AND VOTED TO APPROVE THAT BUDGET.
SO, UH, INSIDE THAT BUDGET. AND THE REASON I'M BRINGING ALL THIS UP, BECAUSE MOST OF THAT BUDGET, MOST OF OF THIS AUDIENCE IS MAYBE NOT AS CONCERNED WITH AS, UH, A FEW OF THESE CIP PROJECTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE POINTED AT THE AIRPORT. AND SO I, UH, INCLUDED SOME, UH, ATTACHMENTS, UM, UH, IN MY REPORT THERE. THE FIRST ONE OF THESE IS, UH, AN, AN OVERVIEW OF ALL OF THE AIRPORT PROJECTS, UH, THAT ARE IN THE, UH, FISCAL YEAR 26, 27 BUDGET, EXCUSE ME. UM, WHICH IS TO SAY THAT THERE'S, THERE IS, UM, FUNDING IN PLACE, UH, FOR THESE BUDGETS FOR 26 27. UH, AND, UM, AND THEY'RE, UH, FIVE PROJECTS. TWO OF THEM I THINK YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'VE BEEN SEEN ON THE CIP BUDGET BEFORE, AND I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE FOR YOU. SO, UM, YOU'LL SEE THE FIRST PROJECT IS A TAXIWAY A REHAB, AND IT'S GOT A HEFTY BUDGET FOR THE COMING YEAR, BECAUSE THAT'S CONSTRUCTION BUDGET. UH, LIKEWISE WITH TAXI LANE B, REHAB, THAT 1.1. THESE ARE, UM, THESE ARE IN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. SO THAT'S 1.12, 1 MILLION OR 1,121,000, UH, IN 26, 27 TO, TO DO THE TAXI LANE B CONSTRUCTION. BACKING BACK UP, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLEAR, THE TAXIWAY A REHAB BUDGET FOR 26 27 IS 2,577,000. UH, THESE PROJECTS BOTH ARE LARGELY FAA AND CALTRAN FUNDED, UH, AS I'M SURE YOU ALL ARE AWARE. UM, THE THIRD PROJECT IS A PROJECT THAT I DON'T BELIEVE WAS ON THE CIP LAST YEAR. UH, AND IT'S THE AIRPORT HANGAR PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE PROJECT. THIS IS, UM, THIS HAS BEEN IN THE FIVE YEAR PLAN WITH MEEN HUNT AND THE FAA AND IT'S FINALLY COMING UP NOW TO ITS DESIGN PHASE FOR 26 27. IS THAT THE SEAL, UH, SEAL CODE FOR, UH, HANGERS 14 THROUGH 18, ROSE 14 THROUGH 18? I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER. I DON'T KNOW THE, I DON'T KNOW THE EXTENT OF THAT SCOPE. I HAVEN'T STUDIED IT YET. OKAY.
THIS IS, UM, THIS HAS BEEN IN THE FIVE YEAR PLAN WITH MEEN HUNT AND THE FAA AND IT'S FINALLY COMING UP NOW TO ITS DESIGN PHASE FOR 26 27. IS THAT THE SEAL, UH, SEAL CODE FOR, UH, HANGERS 14 THROUGH 18, ROSE 14 THROUGH 18? I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER. I DON'T KNOW THE, I DON'T KNOW THE EXTENT OF THAT SCOPE. I HAVEN'T STUDIED IT YET. OKAY. 'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, HAS BEEN, JUST WAS DISCUSSED WITH DAN. I'M NOT SURE IF IT MADE INTO THE PROJECTS, BUT APPARENTLY HANGER ROSE 14 THROUGH 18 NEVER RECEIVED THEIR ORIGINAL SEAL COAT. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF GRAVEL IN THOSE, ON THOSE HANGAR ROWS. AND THEN DAN CAUGHT IT AND SAID, YES, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO WORK OUT SOME DEAL WITH PUBLIC WORKS AS PART OF ANOTHER CEILING PROJECT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE CITY'S DOING CEILING TO GET THAT INCLUDED. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T GET DROPPED AND HOPEFULLY THAT'S IN THIS PROJECT. OKAY. SO, AND I MAY HAVE MISSPOKE. THAT COULD BE, THAT COULD BE THE ARRANGED CONSTRUCTION COST TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THAT SEAL COAT IN, IN THAT LIMITED AREA. UM, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO COORDINATE THAT WITH OUR REGULAR CITYWIDE SLURRY SEAL PROJECT. RIGHT. THAT'S IN WHICH CASE, THAT'S ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTION COST. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEP. AND THEN, UM, THE NEXT PROJECT, THE SAFETY ZONE IMPROVEMENT HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR A WHILE. THAT'S, THAT IS FINALLY COMING UP. AND THEN THE OTHER, UH, THE OTHER ONE THAT IS, UH, NEW ON THIS BUDGET IS THE RUNWAY, UH, SEAL COAT. AND YOU, YOU SEE THAT THE FISCAL YEAR 26 27 FUNDING OF 166,000 OR BUDGET OF 166,000 IS A, IS A DESIGN PLANNING BUDGET.
AND THEN, UM, THE NEXT PROJECT, THE SAFETY ZONE IMPROVEMENT HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR A WHILE. THAT'S, THAT IS FINALLY COMING UP. AND THEN THE OTHER, UH, THE OTHER ONE THAT IS, UH, NEW ON THIS BUDGET IS THE RUNWAY, UH, SEAL COAT. AND YOU, YOU SEE THAT THE FISCAL YEAR 26 27 FUNDING OF 166,000 OR BUDGET OF 166,000 IS A, IS A DESIGN PLANNING BUDGET. CONSTRUCTION BUDGET IS TWO YEARS OUT, AS IS TYPICAL FOR US, TWO YEARS AFTER THE DESIGN, UH, CONSTRUCTION FALLS IN. AND THAT'S THE ONE POINT, ROUGHLY $1.3 MILLION BUDGET. AND THEN IF YOU TURN THE PAGE TO THE, THE OTHER, UH, THE OTHER PROJECT LIST, THIS IS LABELED FUTURE ENTERPRISE AND UTILITY PROJECTS. AND THERE ARE TWO OF THESE, THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT YET FUNDED, AND THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE LANDED ON THE FUTURE LIST. IF THEY'RE FUNDED, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN ON, UH, ON THE FIRST LIST THAT WE'VE JUST REVIEWED. SO THESE ARE CURRENTLY NOT FUNDED. THEY'RE IN THE OUT YEARS. THEY'RE ON OUR RADAR, IF YOU WILL. AND ONE IS THE NORTH HANGAR RAMP COATING AT ONE POINT, BASICALLY ONE AND A QUARTER MILLION. AND THE AIRPORT EMERGENCY POWER BACKUP PROJECT, WHICH IS, UM, 600, ROUGHLY 600,000. AND THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR, UM, FOR THE FUNDING, UM, APPROVALS. AND THEN, UH, EVENTUALLY AS WE WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THESE OTHER PROJECTS, THEY'LL COME UP ON THE DESIGN LIST AND, AND ON THE CONSTRUCTION LIST. AND THEN THE PROJECTS BELOW THAT, UM, ARE JUST BRIEF UPDATES. UM, NOT A LOT THERE THAT WE HAVEN'T ALREADY TALKED ABOUT. UH, NON CIP, UH, THE ONE OF MOST INTEREST HERE IS THE FUEL FARM REHAB PROJECT.
AND THAT PROJECT HAS MOVED OUT OF CIP, THAT'S WHY IT WAS NOT LISTED WITH THE OTHER CIP PROJECTS. WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD, UM, INTERNALIZE THIS PROJECT WITH OUR FACILITIES TEAM THAT I'M NOW HEADING UP IN PUBLIC WORKS. AND, UM, IT WILL STILL BE CONTRACTED OUT, BUT, UH, WE WON'T BE DOING IT THROUGH A CIP PROCESS. WE'LL BE DOING IT THROUGH OUR OPERATIONS BUDGET AND, UM, THE HANGAR FEASIBILITY STUDY WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT, THERE'S NO CHANGE THERE. WE WANTED TO WAIT AND AGREED WE WOULD WAIT UNTIL OUR NEW MANAGER WAS ON BOARD. AND, UH, AND I'LL BE, I'LL BE, UM, UPDATING HIM, UH, ON THAT. AND THEN 18 C DOOR REPAIR IS COMPLETE. UM, AND THE CITY COUNCIL ACCEPTED THAT COMPLETION ON CONSENT. THEY ADOPTED THAT RESOLUTION, UM, ON MAY 4TH. SO THAT PROJECT IS TIED UP IN A BOW. DID WE GET THAT HANGAR LEASED? PARDON? HAS THAT HANGAR BEEN LEASED? HAVE WE COMPLETED THE LEASE YET? YES. YEP. YES. GREAT. THANK YOU. YEP. AND IS THAT IT? AM I, AM I AT THE END? I THINK I'M AT THE END. THANK YOU. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS. I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION ON THE EXPENSES. UH, THE LARGE OVERAGE ON OTHER PAY RETIREMENT, SICK VACATION, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT OVERRUN WAS? GIMME, LET'S SEE, LET ME FIND IT FIRST. LOOKING AT THE SUMMARY LINE ON THE EXPEN, UH, EXPENDITURE STATUS REPORT, PAGE ONE, UH, PAGE ONE, 1300% OVER BUDGET. THERE'S 20, ABOUT $20,000. WAS IT 20,000 OVER ATION? I, I NEED TO, I NEED TO DOUBLE CHECK AND GET BACK TO YOU. UM, SOMETIMES THE, I DON'T GET, I DON'T GET TOO PANICKY WHEN I SEE THESE BECAUSE I AM AWARE THAT OCCASIONALLY OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT, UM, DOES TRANSFERS, UM, AFTER THE FACT MM-HMM . AND SO I'M NOT SURE, UM, IT'S A, UH, IT IS A HUGE PERCENTAGE. THE, THE ACTUAL, UM, OVERAGE IS 19, ROUGHLY 2020, ALMOST 20,000, YEAH. YEAH. AND OTHER PAY RETIRE, SICK VACATION. SO I'LL HAVE TO, I'LL HAVE TO CHECK AND GO BACK TO YOU.
AND SO I'M NOT SURE, UM, IT'S A, UH, IT IS A HUGE PERCENTAGE. THE, THE ACTUAL, UM, OVERAGE IS 19, ROUGHLY 2020, ALMOST 20,000, YEAH. YEAH. AND OTHER PAY RETIRE, SICK VACATION. SO I'LL HAVE TO, I'LL HAVE TO CHECK AND GO BACK TO YOU. I DON'T, OKAY. GOOD QUESTION. I THINK WE'RE THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK WE'RE DONE BEFORE, BEFORE WE CLOSE. I HAVE ONE MORE, UM, THING THAT I THOUGHT OF, WHICH, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THE, UH, RUNWAY CLOSURE IS I KNOW OFTEN I'VE SEEN REACH, USE OUR AIRPORT. IT MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE TO ACTUALLY CALL THEM AND JUST MAKE SURE THEY'RE, WHEN YOU HAVE THE FINAL SCHEDULE, JUST TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND MAKE SURE THEY KNOW, UM, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AN EMERGENCY. OKAY. YEAH. THANKS. YEAH. SO I THINK WE'RE AT THE CONCLUSION. IT'S FIVE AFTER NINE. I MOTION TO ADJOURN. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.