Public Safety Advisory Committee

* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME [CALL TO ORDER] TO THE 19TH MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR WEDNESDAY, JULY 22ND, 2026. IF YOU WISH TO PROVIDE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD IN THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER AND BRING IT TO THE COMMITTEE CLERK. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE CITY CLERK, KAITLYN CORLEY, TO ADMINISTER THE OATH OF OFFICE TO THE NEW PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS. OH, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. IT'S WONDERFUL TO BE HERE TO SWEAR THE NEW MEMBERS IN. UH, SO, UH, I'M GONNA HAVE ALL OF THE NEW MEMBERS STEP IN FRONT OF THE DAAS. JOIN ME IN FRONT OF THE DAAS, UH, AND WE'LL DO THE OATH ONE BY ONE. AND IF I COULD HAVE SOME HELP FROM LIEUTENANT RIVERA TO, UH, ADMINISTER THE OATH TO OUR SPANISH SPEAKING COMMITTEE. MEMBER [00:06:01] CHAIR MILLER, IF WE COULD JUST PAUSE FOR ONE MOMENT. WE'RE HAVING SOME INTERPRETER TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. THANK YOU. AND CHAIR MILLER, MAYBE WHILE WE'RE JUST TAKING A MOMENT TO WORK THROUGH THE TECHNOLOGY ISSUES, I JUST MAYBE WANT TO JUST ADVISE THE COMMUNITY WHILE WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE CHALLENGES THAT, UM, WE WANT TO CONGRATULATE OUR NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND WELCOME, UH, SPECIFICALLY MS. RAMIREZ TO THE COMMITTEE. AND, UH, THIS IS OUR FIRST, UH, SPANISH SPEAKING COMMUNITY MEMBER. AND SO WHILE WE, UH, ARE WORKING THROUGH THOSE, UM, TECHNOLOGY ISSUES, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HAVING THOSE ISSUES BECAUSE IT'S A UNIQUE POSITION THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NAVIGATING THOSE CHALLENGES BECAUSE WE, UH, UH, HAVEN'T HAD TO HAVE THEM BEFORE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A SPANISH SPEAKING COMMUNITY MEMBER ON THE COMMITTEE. SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME AND THE FIRST MEETING. AND, UH, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH, UM, THOSE, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE MEDEX MEETING WHERE WE'VE GOT 'EM ALL DIALED IN, AND, UH, UM, WE'RE EXCITED TO ALSO HAVE OUR NEW, UH, TRANSLATORS, UH, MARTIN ON THE OTHER LINE, HELPING US ON THE BACK, BACK END, TRANSLATING EVERYTHING IN REAL TIME FOR US. SO WE ALSO KNOW THAT THIS MEETING MAY BE A LITTLE BIT SLOWER, AND WE'RE GONNA TRY TO TALK A LITTLE BIT SLOWLY. UM, SO AGAIN, AS I REMIND MYSELF AND THE OTHER COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THIS FOR THE OTHER 18 MEETINGS, TO, UH, SLOW DOWN AND JUST THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE DELIBERATELY WHEN WE'RE SPEAKING, UH, IN OUR CONVERSATION. AND FOR MY TEAM AS WELL IN OUR PRESENTATION, WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO SPEAK REALLY, REALLY QUICKLY. SO, UM, WE'LL TRY. UM, AND DO WE NEED AN AUDIO CHECK TO OUR TEAM FOR THE TRANSLATION? LOREN'S GOOD. CONFIRMING WHAT THE GREAT, THANK YOU CHIEF. APPRECIATE THAT. PERFECT. NO PROBLEM. ALRIGHT, WE ARE READY FOR ROLL CALL WHENEVER YOU ARE. OKAY. THEN WITH THAT, WE'LL GET GOING AND, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CLERK TO TAKE ROLL HOLTON. PRESENT? YEAH. MACIAS. ABSENT. MILLER PRESENT. NELSON. PRESENT. OSLER. HERE. RAMIREZ. PRESENT. OKAY. AND NOW HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO LEAD THE COMMITTEE IN THE ROOM IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. [00:10:02] OKAY. NEXT UP, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMITTEE SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED UP TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE. TIME WILL BE ALLOCATED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 15 MINUTES. UH, CLERK, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING. WE RECEIVED ONE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THAT WAS POSTED ONLINE PRIOR TO THE MEETING, AND NO IN PERSON COMMENTS. OKAY. WITH NO, UH, IN PERSON. THEN I'LL CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AND CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA. UH, NEXT WILL BE THE [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE MEETING OF JUNE 24TH, 2026. I'D LIKE TO ASK IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PUT FORWARD WITH NONE. THEN I'LL STATE THAT THE MINUTES ARE DEEMED APPROVED AS PRESENTED. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAY NO. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. NEXT UP, I'D [PRESENTATIONS] LIKE TO CALL ON THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR AND INTRODUCE DENISE LEWIS FROM INTEGRA. SURE. TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION AND COMMENTS ON THE MONTHLY STATS. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MAKING SURE EVERYONE CAN HEAR ME OKAY. I CAN HEAR YOU. GREAT. GREAT. GREAT. CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME TO THE NEW PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS. UM, I'M DENISE LEWIS. FOR THOSE THAT ARE NEW AND HAVEN'T MET ME, I WORK FOR JEFF SCHLANGER AT INTEGR, AND HE IS THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR FOR THE PETALUMA POLICE DEPARTMENT. UM, I'M JEFF'S DEPUTY, AND HE SENDS HIS APOLOGIES TONIGHT. HE IS ACTUALLY WELCOMING IN ANOTHER GRANDCHILD TONIGHT, SO THAT'S WHY HE'S NOT HERE SINCE HIS APOLOGIES. UM, I WILL GO OVER OUR MONTHLY REPORT, WHICH YOU SHOULD HAVE IN YOUR PACKET AND IS NOW UP ON THE SCREEN. UM, AS A REMINDER, WHAT I'M REPORTING IS A KIND OF A SNAPSHOT OF OUR WORK FOR THE MONTH PRIOR TO THIS MEETING. SO IN JUNE, 2026, AS WELL AS, UM, THE NUMBER OF INCIDENTS THAT OCCURRED DURING THAT MONTH AS WELL. SO I'LL START WITH USES OF FORCE. SO IN JUNE, THERE WERE 12 INCIDENTS THAT WERE PENDING REVIEW AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTH OR THE END OF THE MONTH, I SHOULD SAY. THERE WERE SIX NEW USES OF FORCE THAT OCCURRED IN JUNE FIVE THAT WERE REVIEWED BY THE DEPARTMENT, AND THREE THAT WERE REVIEWED BY THE, UM, IPA DURING THE MONTH OF JUNE. THERE WERE NO RELATED ACAS. AND FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW ALL THESE ACRONYMS, THOSE ARE AGREED UPON COURSE OF ACTION. AND IN A VERY QUICKLY, WHAT THAT MEANS IS WHEN WE REVIEW AN INCIDENT AND AFTER DISCUSSING IT WITH THE DEPARTMENT, THERE'S SOME FURTHER ACTION THAT WE ALL AGREE SHOULD OCCUR, UM, TO CORRECT A DEFICIENCY OR SOMETHING THAT THAT COULD, COULD BE IMPROVED. WE COUNT THAT AS ONE. SO IF THERE ARE NO ACAS, IT MEANT THAT THERE WAS NOTHING THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE FURTHER AFTER OUR REVIEW. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE INCIDENT WAS PERFECTLY PERFORMED BY THE OFFICERS, MORE THAT THE DEPARTMENT, UM, HAS ALREADY ADDRESSED ANY ISSUES. SO THERE WAS NOTHING FURTHER THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE WITH THAT. I WILL ADD THAT ON THE USES OF FORCE, THE THREE THAT WE REVIEWED, UH, ONE OF THOSE WAS A DISPLAY ONLY, SO THERE WAS NO ACTUAL PHYSICAL FORCE USED. UM, AND ONE OF THE THREE THAT WE REVIEWED, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE TYPES OF FORCE, AGAIN ON THESE ARE THE THREE CASES THAT WE REVIEWED, THAT THE DISPLAY WAS OF A TASER. THERE WAS PHYSICAL FORCE AND HANDS-ON AND A TAKEDOWN. SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF FORCE THAT WERE USED IN THE THREE THAT WE REVIEWED. MOVING ON TO PURSUITS, WHICH IS THE MIDDLE COLUMN, THERE WERE SIX INCIDENTS THAT WERE PENDING, UH, FULL REVIEW BY THE DEPARTMENT. UH, AT, IN, IN JUNE OR AT THE END OF JUNE, THERE WERE THREE NEW PURSUITS THAT OCCURRED. THREE THAT WERE REVIEWED BY THE DEPARTMENT, AND THE IPA HAD NOT REVIEWED ANY OF THOSE, UM, AS OF IN JUNE, NOW THAT WE'RE NOW IN JULY. SO VERY LIKELY WE WOULD'VE REVIEWED THOSE ALREADY. THERE WERE NO ACAS BECAUSE WE HADN'T REVIEWED ANY. THE THIRD COLUMN THERE, THE SET OF COLUMNS THAT I SHOULD SAY, THERE'S FIVE COLUMNS [00:15:01] FOR EACH TYPE OF INCIDENT, UH, IS COMPLAINTS WITH REGARD TO COMPLAINTS THAT WERE 11 THAT WERE IN THE QUEUE WAITING TO BE REVIEWED OR FINISHED. REVIEWED. IN JUNE, THERE WERE FIVE NEW COMPLAINTS THAT WERE LODGED, FOUR THAT WERE REVIEWED BY THE DEPARTMENT AND ONE REVIEWED BY US. AND AGAIN, THERE WAS NO, UM, ACA OR NECESSARY AGREED UPON COURSE OF ACTION WITH REGARD TO THOSE COMPLAINTS OR THAT COMPLAINT THAT WE REVIEWED. UM, THE LAST NOTE THERE WAS REGARD TO THE COMPLAINT THAT WE DID REVIEW. UH, THE ALLEGATION WAS FOR FAILING TO IDENTIFY THE, THE OFFICER FAILING TO IDENTIFY HIMSELF, WHICH IS EXONERATED. THAT MEANS THAT IT, IT, UM, THE, THE INCIDENT, THE WAY IT OCCURRED WAS APPROPRIATE. THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS, THE, THE EXONERATED TERM. SO THAT CONCLUDES THE REVIEW, UH, OR MY, SORRY, A REPORT OF JUNE, 2026. UM, BEFORE I OPEN IT UP FOR FULL QUESTIONS, I WANNA FOLLOW UP CHAIR WITH THE QUESTION THAT WAS RAISED LAST MONTH WITH REGARD TO THE, UM, ACAS THAT HAD OCCURRED IN MARCH AND APRIL. WE WERE ASKED TO GIVE JUST A SYNOPSIS OF WHAT THOSE WERE. UM, AND THIS WAS ON THE USES OF FORCE. SO I WILL DO THAT NOW, UM, BUT MAYBE I BETTER WAIT AND ASK IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON OUR JUNE REPORT. SOUNDS GOOD. THANKS DENISE. UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE ON THE JUNE REPORT SO FAR? OKAY, GO AHEAD, DENISE. THANK YOU. UM, YOU GUYS ARE SMALL ON MY SCREEN, SO I CAN'T TELL IF ANYBODY'S WAVING THEIR HAND. THANK YOU. SO, AND THERE WERE TWO ACAS IN MARCH AND ONE IN APRIL WITH REGARD TO THE, THE, UH, USES OF FORCE THAT WE REVIEWED. AND AS I SAID, THE, THE COMMITTEE ASKED US TO GIVE A REPORT ON THOSE, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THE DETAIL LAST MONTH, SO WE'RE DOING THAT NOW. SO WITH REGARD TO MARCH, UH, ONE OF THE ACAS WAS KIND OF A COMBINATION. SO THE ONE, UM, REPORT OR INVESTIGATION THAT WE REVIEWED HAD SEVERAL ISSUES IN IT THAT WE ALL, WE ALL AGREED COULD HAVE BEEN, UM, IMPROVED UPON. ONE WAS THE ON SCENE TACTICS REGARDING THE CANINE AND THE TASER. UM, THERE WAS, WE, WE KIND OF MENTIONED IT AND TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT LAST MONTH, BUT IT HAD TO DO WITH MULTIPLE OFFICERS DISPLAYING THE TASER AT THE SAME TIME, AND THAT THEY SHOULD DISCUSS HOW THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT AND WHETHER THAT WAS TACTICALLY SOUND. UH, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT SOME TRAINING POINTS FOR A PARTICULAR OFFICER'S USE OF PROFANITY. SO THOSE WERE THE AGREED UPON COURSE OF ACTION OF THAT ONE INCIDENT. THE SECONDARY INCIDENT IN MARCH HAD TO DO WITH REEMPHASIZING TO A SUPERVISOR. UM, THEIR ROLE AS IT RELATES TO ON SCENE, UM, DIRECTION WITH OFFICERS, THE ACA FOR APRIL WITH ON ON THAT USE OF FORCE WAS, UM, TO, WE ALL AGREED THAT THERE SHOULD BE A DISCUSSION WITH SUPERVISORS ON THEIR DECISIONS RELATED TO WELFARE CHECKS OF PROTECTED PERSONS. SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE VERY HIGH LEVEL ON PURPOSE. UM, WE DON'T GO INTO MAJOR DETAIL IN THIS FORUM, BUT THOSE ARE THE AGREED UPON COURSES OF ACTION OUT OF THOSE INCIDENTS. AND I'LL TAKE OPEN TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, DENISE. UM, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE ON EITHER OF THOSE, MARCH OR APRIL? AGREE TO CON ON COURSE OF ACTIONS. NO QUESTIONS FROM HERE, DENISE. THANK YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND NEXT UP [PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION] WE, I WANT TO INTRODUCE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS, LIEUTENANT GARRETT GIANNO AND COMMAND STAFF TO PRESENT THE PETALUMA POLICE DEPARTMENT RECRUITMENT AND BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION PROCESS. GREAT. WE, UH, START WITH THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. YOU COMMITTEE MEMBERS CHAIR MILLER, TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION WILL BE A HIGH LEVEL REVIEW OF THE SELECTION AND HIRING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AT THE PETALUMA POLICE DEPARTMENT. I'LL BE SPEAKING TO OUR ALLOCATED POSITIONS AND CURRENT STAFFING LEVELS. I'LL BRIEFLY DISCUSS HOW THE, THE DEPARTMENT RECRUITS NEW OFFICERS. I'LL EXPLAIN HOW OFFICERS ARE SELECTED IN THE BACKGROUND PROCESS, AN EMPLOYEE ENDORSES BEFORE BECOMING A MEMBER OF THE DEPARTMENT. AND AT THE END, I'M, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY [00:20:01] QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AS PART OF THE CITY'S YEARLY BUDGET PROCESS, THE NUMBER OF ALLOCATED POSITIONS IS IDENTIFIED. THE DEPARTMENT IS CURRENTLY ALLOCATED 103 POSITIONS, WHICH ARE LISTED ON THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU. THE 70 SWORN POLICE OFFICER POSITIONS INCLUDE THE CHIEF, DEPUTY, CHIEF FOUR LIEUTENANTS, AND 11 SERGEANTS. IN ADDITION TO OUR ALLOCATED POSITIONS, THE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY UTILIZES FOUR PART-TIME EMPLOYEES AND A NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS TO HELP ACCOMPLISH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY MISSION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE EVALUATE OUR STAFFING LEVELS FROM TWO PERSPECTIVES. THOSE ARE ACTUAL STAFFING AND FUNCTIONAL STAFFING. ACTUAL STAFFING REPRESENTS A HEAD COUNT OF EMPLOYEES, WHEREAS FUNCTIONAL STAFFING REPRESENTS A FULLY TRAINED EMPLOYEE WHO IS ABLE TO OPERATE AS A SOLO OFFICER OR DISPATCHER. THIS DISTINCTION IS SIGNIFICANT AS ONLY FULLY TRAINED OFFICERS AND DISPATCHERS ARE ACCOUNTED FOR IN OUR MINIMUM STAFFING LEVELS. THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS DISTINCTION IS HIGHLIGHTED DUE TO THE EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME IT TAKES TO COMPLETE THE HIRING AND TRAINING PROCESS. FOR EXAMPLE, WITH AN ENTRY-LEVEL POLICE OFFICER, ONCE THE APPLICANT APPLIES, IT CAN TAKE BETWEEN FOUR TO SIX MONTHS TO COMPLETE THE BACKGROUND IN HIRING PROCESS. THEY THEN ATTEND A 22 WEEK POLICE ACADEMY AND PARTICIPATE IN A 21 FIELD, 21 WEEK FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM. IT IS ONLY THEN THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO HANDLE CALLS FOR SERVICE AS A SOLO POLICE OFFICER. SO IN TOTAL, THE PROCESS CAN TAKE 15 TO 17 MONTHS. THIS IS THE MOST EXTREME EXAMPLE FOR EMPLOYEES WHO, WHO WE ARE ONBOARDING, BUT DISPATCHERS ARE NOT FAR BEHIND. AND EVEN OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF GO THROUGH A RIGOROUS BACKGROUND PROCESS. ANOTHER FACTOR IS EXTENDED LEAVES, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS WHO SUSTAIN WORK-RELATED INJURIES, WHICH CAN PREVENT THEM FROM PERFORMING THEIR DUTIES AS SOLO POLICE OFFICERS. AND CALCULATING FUNCTIONAL STAFFING OFFICERS WHO ARE ON EXTENDED LEAVES DUE TO INJURY ARE NOT COUNTED. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE VACANT POLICE OFFICER POSITION, WHICH WE ARE ACTIVELY RECRUITING FOR OF THE 69 OFFICERS, 63 ARE FUNCTIONAL OR WORKING AS SOLO POLICE OFFICERS. AS WE HAVE, AS WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO OFFICERS OUT ON INJURY, ONE IN THE FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM, AND THREE IN THE POLICE ACADEMY. FOR ONE VACANT POSITION, THE NEXT POLICE ACADEMY STARTS IN JANUARY OF 2027. SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO SELECT AN APPLICANT WHO IS SUCCESSFUL, IT WILL BE NEAR THE END OF 2027 BEFORE THEY'RE ABLE TO WORK A SHIFT BY THEMSELVES. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. IN OUR DISPATCH CENTER, WE, WE HAVE 12 AUTHORIZED POSITIONS, NOT INCLUDING THE SUPERVISOR. WE CURRENTLY HAVE 12.5 DISPATCHERS AS THE DEPARTMENT ALLOWS TWO EMPLOYEES TO SHARE A POSITION IN DISPATCH OR WHAT IS CALLED THE JOB SHARE. WE HAVE ONE EMPLOYEE WHO'S CURRENTLY OCCUPYING HALF OF THE JOBS SHARE, AND ANOTHER FULL-TIME DISPATCHER WHO IS AWAITING THE ABILITY TO TAKE THE SECOND HALF, UH, ONCE OUR DISPATCHER TRAINEES GRADUATE FROM THE TRAINING PROGRAM. SO ALTHOUGH WE HAVE 12.5 DISPATCHERS, FIVE OF THEM ARE CURRENTLY IN TRAINING, WHICH EQUATES TO A 58% FUNCTIONAL STAFFING RATE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE DEPARTMENT'S HIRING EFFORTS ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS DIVISION, THE DIVISION I CURRENTLY OVERSEE, SERGEANT NICK ELLO, OUR ADMINISTRATIVE SERGEANT, IS PRIMARILY ASSIGNED TO MANY OF THE TASKS AND PROCESSES THAT WE'LL DISCUSS TONIGHT. HE WORKS CLOSELY WITH THE CITY'S HUMAN RESOURCES TEAM TO ENSURE WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAWS AND REGULATIONS RELATED TO HIRING. ADDITIONALLY, DUE TO THE SPECIALTY OF SOME OF THESE PROCESSES AND THE VOLUME OF WORK, THE DEPARTMENT WORKS WITH A NUMBER OF INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS TO MEET OUR GOALS AND FULFILL LEGISLATIVELY MANDATED REQUIREMENTS. ALL COMPLETED BACKGROUNDS FOR HIRED OFFICERS AND DISPATCHERS ARE REVIEWED BY OUR CALIFORNIA PEACE OFFICER STANDARD AND TRAINING REGION CONSULTANT. AND FOR, FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS, THOSE BACKGROUNDS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. BEFORE MOVING INTO THE SELECTION AND BACKGROUND PROCESS, I'M GOING TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON RECRUITING. JOB ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE CREATED BY HUMAN RESOURCES, THEN POSTED TO A NUMBER OF WEBSITES, INCLUDING GOVERNMENT JOBS INDEED LINKEDIN, ZIPRECRUITER, GLASSDOOR SIMPLY HIRED CAREERS IN GOVERNMENT CA.GOV AND CAREERS.COM WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IN ADDITION TO RELYING HEAVILY ON SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGNS, WE HAVE FOCUSED OUR RECRUITING EFFORTS BY ATTENDING CAREER FAIR AS OPPOSED SANTA ROSA JUNIOR COLLEGE AND SONOMA STATE UNIVERSITY, AND ACTIVELY AT RECRUIT AT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS SUCH AS PETALUMA NIGHT OUT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE CALIFORNIA [00:25:01] PEACE OFFICER STANDARD IN TRAINING OR POST WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1959 TO SET MINIMUM SELECTION AND TRAINING STANDARDS FOR CALIFORNIA POLICE OFFICERS AND DISPATCHERS. AS YOU'LL SEE, ALMOST ALL AREAS OF OUR BACKGROUND PROCESS ARE GOVERNED BY POST STANDARDS, POST GOVERNS VIA THE CALIFORNIA CODE OF REGULATIONS, AND FURTHER CLARIFIES THE REGULATIONS THROUGH VARIOUS MANUALS, SUCH AS INTERVIEWING POLICE OFFICER CANDIDATES, THE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS, MANUAL MEDICAL SCREENING MANUAL FOR CALIFORNIA LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND THE PSYCHOLOGICAL SCREENING MANUAL. IN ADDITION, THE CITY HAS RULES AND REGULATIONS AND THE DEPARTMENT HAS A POLICY RELATED TO RECRUITMENT AND SELECTION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. FOR EACH JOB CLASSIFICATION, THE CITY OF PETALUMA MAINTAINS A JOB DESCRIPTION, ALL OF WHICH ARE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. THESE ARE DEVELOPED IN A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS BETWEEN THE HUMAN, BETWEEN THE HUMAN RESOURCE AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS, AND OFTEN INVOLVE CLASS AND COMPENSATION STUDIES TO ENSURE ACCURACY. THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS OUTLINED AMONGST OTHER THINGS, JOB DUTIES, QUALIFICATIONS, AND BENEFITS, AND ALL SUBSTATIVE CHANGES TO CLASS SPECIFICATIONS MUST BE TAKEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE CALIFORNIA CODE OF REGULATIONS OUTLINE THE MINIMUM SELECTION STANDARDS FOR POLICE OFFICER CANDIDATES. THOSE INCLUDE BEING FREE FROM ANY DISQUALIFICATIONS FOR EMPLOYMENT, INCLUDING FELONY CONVICTIONS LEGALLY AUTHORIZED TO WORK IN THE UNITED STATES BY FEDERAL LAW AT LEAST 21 YEARS OLD, FINGERPRINTED FOR THE PURPOSES OF SEARCH OF LOCAL, STATE, AND NATIONAL FINGERPRINT FILES TO DISCLOSE ANY CRIMINAL RECORD OF GOOD, GOOD MORAL CHARACTER, AS DETERMINED BY A THOROUGH BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION, A HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE OR EQUIVALENT, AND FOUND TO BE FREE FROM ANY PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL, OR MENTAL CONDITION, INCLUDING BIAS THAT AGAINST PROTECTED CLASSES, CLASSES, WHICH MIGHT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE EXERCISE OF THE POWERS OF PEACE OFFICER. NEXT SLIDE. PLEASE POST ESTABLISHED THE LISTED DIMENSIONS, WHICH WERE DERIVED FROM ANALYSIS OF THE JOB AND ITS REQUIREMENTS AND DEMANDS. FURTHER DETAILS REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE DIMENSIONS CAN BE FOUND IN APPENDIX A OF THE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION MANUAL, WHICH IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ONLINE. THIS LIST OF CATEGORIES IS DERIVED FROM FIVE BROADER CATEGORIES OF MORAL CHARACTER HANDLING, STRESS AND ADVERSITY OR HABITS, INTERACTION WITH OTHERS, AND INTELLECTUALLY BASED ABILITIES. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. MOVING ON TO THE BACKGROUND AND HIRING PROCESS, WHICH CAN BE BROKEN DOWN INTO THREE PHASES, THOSE BEING PRECONDITION, OFFER, POST CONDITIONAL OFFER, AND POST-EMPLOYMENT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE STEPS LISTED ON, ON THIS SLIDE TAKE PLACE PRIOR TO A CONDITIONAL JOB OFFER BEING ISSUED AND MAKE UP THE BULK OF THE SELECTION AND HIRING PROCESS. THE APPLICATION IS A STANDARD JOB APPLICATION DEVELOPED WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF HR PURSUANT TO THE GOVERNMENT CODE. THE APPLICATION DOES NOT INCLUDE QUESTIONS RELATED TO GENDER, AGE, RACE, OR OTHER NON-JOB RELATED INFORMATION. THE POST ENTRY LEVEL LAW ENFORCEMENT TEST BATTERY, OR PELLET B, IS A WRITTEN TEST THAT ENTRY LEVEL POLICE OFFICER APPLICANTS MUST PASS. THE PATE B IS A TIMED MULTIPLE CHOICE TEST THAT ENSURES CANDIDATES DEMONSTRATE READING AND WRITING PROFICIENCY AND, AND IS REQUIRED AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION. THE CRITICAL EXAMINATION IS ADMINISTERED BY, IS ADMINISTERED BY THE CITY TO DISPATCH CANDIDATES AFTER THE APPLICATION IS SCREENED FOR MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS, IT TESTS VARIOUS JOB RELATED SKILLS SUCH AS MULTITASKING, ADVANCED DECISION MAKING, COMPUTERIZED DATA ENTRY, ORAL AND READING. COMPREHENSION AND MEMORY RECALL. THE ORAL INTERVIEW IS STRUCTURED IS A STRUCTURED INTERVIEW THAT MUST INCLUDE QUESTIONS PROVIDED BY POST RELATED TO EXPERIENCE, PROBLEM SOLVING, ABILITY, COMMUNICATION SKILLS, INTEREST AND MOTIVATION, INTERPERSONAL SKILLS, AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND AWARENESS. IF A CANDIDATE IS SUCCESSFUL IN THE INTERVIEW, THEY BE BEGIN THE BACKGROUND PROCESS. THE FIRST STEP IS FOR THEM TO COMPLETE THE PERSONAL HISTORY STATEMENT OR PHS. THE PHS IS A POST FORM WHICH IS DESIGNED TO ELICIT COMPREHENSIVE BIOGRAPHICAL INFORMATION. IT INCLUDES INFORMATION SUCH AS RESIDENCE AND WORK HISTORY, FINANCIAL INFORMATION, LEGAL AND DRIVING REC RECORDS AND EDUCATION. THE PHS IS THE STARTING POINT FOR THE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATOR. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. WHILE NOT A POST REQUIREMENT, THE DEPARTMENT INCLUDES A POLYGRAPH EXAMINATION AS PART OF ITS BACKGROUND PROCESS. A POLYGRAPH ASSUMES THAT THE STRESS OF DECEPTION TRIGGERS PHYSIOLOGICAL CHANGES. IT DOES NOT DIRECTLY DETECT LIES, BUT [00:30:01] IT MEASURES INVOLUNTARY PHYSICAL STRESS RESPONSES SUCH AS HEART RATE, BLOOD PRESSURE, RESPIRATION, AND SKIN CONDUCTIVITY. THE POLYGRAPHER ATTEMPTS TO ESTABLISH A PHYSIOLOGICAL BASELINE IN A PER PERSON'S TRUTH TELLING STYLE. THEN WHILE THE WHILE TESTING LOOKS FOR DEVIATIONS FOR THE BASELINE OR ABNORMAL RESPONSES TO QUESTIONS, IF ABNORMAL RESPONSES ARE OBSERVED, THE POLYGRAPHER AND OR BACKGROUND INVESTIGATOR WILL FURTHER INVESTIGATE THE TOPIC IN QUESTION. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THE COMPLETED BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION IS A REPORT CONTAINING INFORMATION RELATED TO THE LISTED CATEGORIES. THE INFORMATION IS A COMPILATION OF THE PERSONAL HISTORY STATEMENT, POLYGRAPH CRIMINAL HISTORY, AND NUMEROUS STATEMENTS FROM BOTH PRIMARY AND SECONDARY REFERENCES WITH SECONDARY REFERENCES BEING THOSE THAT ARE DEVELOPED BY THE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATOR AS OPPOSED TO THOSE BEING PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. AN EVOLVING TREND IN BACKGROUND INVESTIGATIONS IS A LOOK INTO THE APPLICANT'S SOCIAL MEDIA ACTIVITY. QUESTIONS RELATED TO THIS AREA ARE INTERWOVEN THROUGHOUT THE BACKGROUND PROCESS, INCLUDING THE POLYGRAPH QUESTIONING OF REFERENCES AND THROUGH OPEN SOURCE SEARCHING. THE LABOR CODE PROHIBITS DEPARTMENTS FROM GOING SO FAR AS TO ASK FOR PASSWORDS OR HAVING APPLICANTS OPEN THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS IN OUR PRESENCE. SO WE RELY ON TRADITIONAL INVESTIGATIVE METHODS AND THROUGH AND THROUGH OUR DIGITAL BACKGROUND PROGRAM, WE ARE CONTRACTED WITH A COMPANY WHO CONDUCTS ONLINE SCREENING. ONCE THAT SCREENING IS COMPLETED, WE RECEIVE A REPORT WHICH FLAGS ANY INFORMATION RELATED TO THE APPLICANT THAT REFLECTS HATE SPEECH HARASSMENT, THREATS OF VIOLENCE, ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES, SEXUALLY EXPLICIT CONTENT AND RACIST, SEXIST OR DISCRIMINATORY BEHAVIOR. ALONG WITH SOCIAL MEDIA, ALL THE APPLICANT'S TATTOOS ARE PHOTOGRAPHED AND EVALUATED FOR ASSOCIATION WITH CRIMINAL ENTERPRISES, GANG, OR OTHER GROUPS THAT ADVOCATE VIOLENCE, RACISM, OR OTHER FORMS OF BIGOTRY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. IN 2021, THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE MADE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO THE LAW TO PREVENT OFFICERS FROM MOVING FROM ONE AGENCY TO ANOTHER TO AVOID DISCIPLINE OR, OR A AFTER TERMINATION PENAL CODE SECTION 8 32 POINT 12 REQUIRES AGENCIES MAINTAINING A PERSONNEL FILE CONTAINING A RECORD OF INVESTIGATIONS OF MISCONDUCT, REQUIRES THEM TO MAKE THOSE FILES AVAILABLE TO A PROSPECTIVE AGENCY AND REQUIRES THAT PROSPECTIVE AGENCY INSPECT THEM AS PART OF THE BACKGROUND. ADDITIONALLY, INVESTIGATORS ARE REQUIRED TO CHECK THE NATIONAL DECERTIFICATION INDEX AND WITH POSTS TO OBTAIN PROOF OF OF ELIGIBILITY OR CONFIRM THEIR POST CERTIFICATE IS VALID. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. ONCE THE BACKGROUND REPORT IS COMPLETED, IT IS REVIEWED BY MYSELF, THE PSD LIEUTENANT, THE DEPUTY CHIEF, AND THE CHIEF WHO I'LL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS IF A CANDIDATE IS SELECTED, THEY'RE INVITED TO A CHIEF'S INTERVIEW. THIS INTERVIEW FOCUSES ON AMONGST OTHER TOPICS, THE DEPARTMENT'S MISSION AND VALUES AND COMMUNITY AND DEPARTMENT EXPECTATIONS IF SUCCESSFUL THE CANDIDATE IS GIVEN, GIVEN A CONDITIONAL JOB OFFER. THE CONDITIONAL JOB OFFER ALLOWS THE DEPARTMENT TO TAKE THE FINAL TWO STEPS OF THE HIRING PROCESS, WHICH ARE THE MEDICAL, EV, MEDICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATIONS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATION ASSESSES AN APPLICANT'S SUITABILITY TO BECOME A POLICE OFFICER. IN ADDITION TO THEIR PHD CREDENTIALS, THE PSYCHOLOGIST IS REQUIRED TO COMPLETE AND MAINTAIN POST APPROVED TRAINING. THE PSYCHOLOGIST CONDUCTS THEIR ASSESSMENT BY REVIEWING THE COMPLETED BACKGROUND REPORT, ADMINISTERING WRITTEN INSTRUMENTS IN A COMPREHENSIVE INTERVIEW. THE GUI GUIDELINES FOR THIS PROCESS ARE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ONLINE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. FOR ENTRY LEVEL POLICE OFFICERS, THEY'RE BROUGHT INTO THE DEPARTMENT AS POLICE OFFICER TRAINEES. THIS SEPARATE JOB CLASSIFICATION ESSENTIALLY MEANS THEY DO NOT HAVE THE POLICE OFFICER POWERS OF ARREST AND ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CARRY A FIREARM OUTSIDE THEIR AC ACADEMY ACTIVITIES. THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PASS A 22 WEEK POLICE ACADEMY AND AFTER GRADUATION, THEY'RE SWORN IN AS A POLICE OFFICER AND BEGIN BOTH THEIR 21 WEEK FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM AND 18 MONTH PROBATIONARY PERIOD. WHILE NOT A PART OF THE HIRING PROCESS PER SE, THESE PROCESSES ARE IMPORTANT TO FURTHER EVALUATE AN APPLICANT'S CAPABILITY TO BE A POLICE OFFICER IN SUITABILITY FOR OUR DEPARTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY, DISPATCHERS ARE SLIGHTLY, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT AS THEY FIRST COMPLETE THEIR FIELD TRAINING, WHICH IS A 30, WHICH IS 30 WEEKS LONG AND MUST COMPLETE THE 120 HOUR DISPATCH ACADEMY WITHIN THEIR FIRST YEAR OF EMPLOYMENT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. AND WITH THAT, UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANYBODY MIGHT HAVE. [00:35:03] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THAT. I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMITTEE NOW, UM, FOR ANY QUESTIONS. GO AHEAD. HI, UH, DANIELLE NELSON. I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I JOTTED DOWN SOME NOTES. UM, THE FIRST QUESTION I HAD IS, DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A LIST OF KNOWN, UM, OFFICERS THAT INTEND TO RETIRE IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS? AND IF SO, WHAT'S THE SUCCESSION STRATEGY TO BACKFILL THAT GIVEN THE LENGTH OF TIME IT TAKES TO ONBOARD A NEW NEW OFFICER? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. YEAH. WE TYPICALLY, UM, HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHO MAY BE RETIRING. UM, A LOT OF OFFICERS TEND TO KEEP THAT CLOSE TO THEIR VEST. UH, BUT WHEN WE DO ANTICIPATE A VACANCY, UM, AT TIMES WE'VE BEEN, BEEN ALLOWED TO OVERHIRE, UM, FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO, WE HAD FOUR OVER HIRES THAT WE MAINTAINED, UM, WHICH REALLY GOT US OUT OF A STAFFING CHALLENGE. UM, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE TRY TO ANTICIPATE THOSE WITH ANTICIPATED VACANCIES AND WE TRY TO REACH A POINT WHERE WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN SEAT PRIOR TO THEM, UM, LEAVING. THANK YOU. UM, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD IS THE SALARY THAT'S CURRENTLY, UM, PROMOTED, IS THAT COMPETITIVE IN COMPARISON TO THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS WITHIN THE MARKET? WE, UM, UNIT SIX WHO REPRESENTS OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND DISPATCHERS, UH, JUST FINISHED THEIR CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. UM, AND IT IS WITHIN COMPARISON TO THE SURROUNDING AGENCIES AT THIS TIME. UM, THE LAST QUESTION I HAD WAS, DO THE APPLICANTS RECEIVE A COPY OF THE BACKGROUND FOR THEIR OWN RECORDS? NO, THE BACKGROUND IS CONFIDENTIAL. AND THEN DOES THE SERVICE PROVIDER, THEY KEEP THE RECORDS ON FILE, DO WE KNOW HOW LONG THEY KEEP 'EM ON FIRE FILE BEFORE THEY'RE DISPERSED? UH, SO THEY, IT DEPENDS WHETHER OR NOT THE PERSON IS HIRED. SO IF THEY'RE HIRED, THE BACKGROUND IS KEPT FIVE YEARS BEYOND THEIR, UM, RETIREMENT DATE. MM-HMM . AND I BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S THREE TO FIVE YEARS FOR AN APPLICANT THAT DOES NOT, UM, IS NOT HIRED. IT'S NOT SELECTED. YEAH. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANKS. GREAT. THANK YOU. AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THOSE BACKGROUNDS ARE RETAINED, UM, AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR IN OUR ELECTRONIC FILE SYSTEM. UM, THEY'RE, THE BACKGROUND INVESTIGATOR DOESN'T RETAIN THOSE, THOSE ARE RETAINED BY THE, THE AGENCY. I HAD A QUICK SMALL QUESTION. I PROBABLY KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM FOR THE BACKGROUND CHECK, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ACCESS TO INTERNATIONAL RECORDS OR ANYTHING OF THAT OR IS IT JUST NATIONAL INFORMATION? WE ONLY HAVE ACCESS TO NATIONAL RECORDS. UM, IF THERE, IF WE DO HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL, UH, APPLICANT WILL MAKE EFFORTS TO TRY TO, TO, UH, VIEW, VIEW ANYTHING THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET OUR HANDS ON WITH THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. UH, THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS PRESENTATION ITEM AND ASK SPEAKERS TO BRING THEIR CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY. CLERK, DID WE RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? NO, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING, AND WE ALSO HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY IN-PERSON COMMENTS. OKAY. THEN I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM AND CONTINUE WITH THE AGENDA. UH, BEFORE I KEEP GOING, I JUST WANT TO DO A CHECK-IN. HOW ARE WE DOING ON PACING? ARE WE TALKING TOO FAST? ARE WE GOING JUST RIGHT. THANK YOU INTERPRETERS. UH, MARTIN, CAN YOU LET US KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO QUICKLY, OR IF THIS IS A GOOD PACE FOR YOU? THIS IS A GREAT PACE. THANK YOU. THIS IS MARIA GALVEZ, UH, TEAM INTERPRETER. GREAT, THANK YOU, MARIA. THANK YOU. OKAY. THEN NEXT UP, UH, WE'LL REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISOR COMMITTEE LONG RANGE CALENDAR. I'D LIKE TO ASK COMMITTEE MEMBERS IF THERE ARE ANY DISCUSSION NEEDED REGARDING UPCOMING MEETING AGENDA DATES AND OR POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEMS ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE. LONG RANGE CALENDAR. I'M TRYING TO BRING IT UP ON THE SCREEN AGAIN. SORRY. NO PROBLEM. APPRECIATE IT. [00:40:14] WHY DON'T I, MAYBE I'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM AND WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT IF WE GET THERE. SO THE NEXT ITEM [COMMITTEE COMMENT] IS, UH, I CALL ON COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO PROVIDE ANY COMMENTS OR REPORT OUT ON EVENTS ATTENDED OR TO BRING FORWARD FUTURE AGENDA TOPIC ITEMS. SO I LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE THIS IS OUR CHANCE AS A COMMITTEE TO TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY, THINGS YOU'VE SEEN, THINGS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO BE DISCUSSED FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, UM, TO SORT OF OUR SPACE TO REALLY GET TO TALK A LITTLE BIT AS A COMMITTEE. SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT FOR THE NEW MEMBERS SO THEY SORT OF UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHAT THIS SECTION OF THE AGENDA IS FOR. GO AHEAD, HOLD. UM, SO IT DEFINITELY IS INVOLVING FUTURE TOPICS, BUT NUMBER ONE IS I KNOW THE CITY IS, UH, A CITY COUNCIL JUST AGREED TO AGENDIZE A NON-COOPERATION WITH ICE ORDINANCE. AND I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING UP TO ME SAYING, WELL, WHAT IS THAT GONNA MEAN? AND WHAT IS THE, HOW IS THE COMMUNITY GONNA BE INVOLVED AND HOW THAT'S ALL GONNA HAPPEN, UH, ABOUT THAT. SO THE COMMUNITY CAN SUPPORT THAT ORDINANCE AND, AND SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GOAL. UM, AND SO I GUESS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL IT'S ACTUALLY AGENDIZED AND PASSED. BUT THEN, UM, I HOPE THAT THIS COMMITTEE WILL, WILL STEP IN. 'CAUSE I THINK THIS WILL BE A GOOD PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT IF OTHER PEOPLE THINK SO TOO. UM, THE SECOND THING IS, UM, AS WE SPEAK, THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD OF SANTA ROSA IS HAVING A BIG FORUM ON FLOCK CAMERAS, LICENSE PLATE CAMERAS. THIS IS NOT, THIS ISSUE IS JUST EVERY SINGLE DAY SEEMS MORE AND MORE THERE'S NATIONAL COVERAGE OF IT. THERE WAS A BIG OP-ED IN THE SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE. I'M HOPING VERY MUCH THAT WITH THE NEW MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT THIS INTO THIS A LOT, UM, AND, AND GOT A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT. BUT THAT, UH, THAT WE REVISITED BECAUSE IT REALLY, IT, UM, IT'S NOT GOING AWAY. AND I KNOW IT'S NOT A HUGE ISSUE IN PETALUMA ITSELF, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE PART OF, OF A, OF A SONOMA COUNTY WHERE THERE'S A LOT, A LOT, A LOT OF CAMERAS, I'M HOPING THAT WE COULD, WE COULD ACTUALLY AGENDIZE THAT TOO. I'LL AT LEAST, UH, SECOND WHAT, UH, KIM MARY ELLEN IS SAYING, UM, I RARELY GET PEOPLE STOPPING ME ON THE STREET OR, YOU KNOW, PULLING OVER IN THEIR CAR WHEN THEY SEE ME WALKING BY. AND I'VE HAD THAT HAPPEN MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS BECAUSE THEY WANNA TALK ABOUT FLOCK CAMERAS AND A LPR READERS. UM, I KNOW IT'S AN ISSUE THAT WE'VE TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT, AND SO I'M NOT EXPECTING A, A HUGE POLICY CHANGE, BUT I DO THINK THAT FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO LIVE UP TO THE MORAL CENTER OF ITS CHARTER, I THINK WE SHOULD BE LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC WHEN THEY SAY THIS IS A TOPIC THAT THEY CONTINUE WANT, THAT THEY CONTINUE TO WANT TO HAVE, BE DISCUSSED AND TALKED ABOUT AND DEBATED, AND, UM, TRY TO FIND SOLUTIONS THAT FEEL THAT ADDRESS, UH, BOTH THE NEEDS OF THE CITY, UH, THE NEEDS OF STAFF AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CONCERNS, UM, OF THE CITIZENS. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP AS SOMETHING THAT I'M ALSO GETTING, UM, GETS BROUGHT UP TO ME SEVERAL TIMES. UM, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION WE ONLY HAVE ONE MEETING IN AUGUST FOR CITY COUNCIL, AUGUST 3RD, AND THE POLICE IS GOING TO BE SHOWING OFF THEIR MILITARY EQUIPMENT AND, UM, THAT AGENDA WILL SHOW WHAT'S IN SEPTEMBER'S AGENDA. AND I BELIEVE THE ICE WILL BE IN THAT AGENDA IN, IN SEPTEMBER, BUT AFTER THE SUMMER BREAK. UM, AND WE'LL HEAR FROM, UM, STAFF AND MOVING FORWARD, WE'LL, WE'LL SEE WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO. THANKS. OKAY. UH, LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT OUR LONG RANGE CALENDAR UP, SO WHY DON'T WE GO BACK TO, UM, LOOKING AT THE UPCOMING MEETING DATES AND POTENTIAL AGENDA ITEMS ON THE PSAC LONG RANGE CALENDAR. WE'LL MEET NEXT WEEK, I MEAN NEXT MONTH THERE'S A NO MEETING IN AUGUST. UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE GUIDING LEGISLATION FOR THIS COMMITTEE, UM, THE INITIAL YEAR WAS EVERY MONTH, UM, SUBSEQUENT YEARS, WERE EVERY OTHER MONTH, UH, FOR MEETINGS. SO AS WE TRANSITION AND GET CLOSER TO 2027, [00:45:02] THEN WE'LL BE GOING BACK TO WHAT THE BINDING LEGISLATION WAS OR WHAT THE, THE, THE ORDINANCE ENTAILS. UM, SO THE MEETINGS WILL BE SPACED OUT IN EVERY OTHER MONTH, UM, FOR SEPTEMBER, UM, BASED ON LAST MEETING AND, UH, INPUT FROM ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY GREEN, UH, WE NEEDED TO GET SOME OF THE HOUSEKEEPING IN IN ORDER. SO THE CITY, THE QUORUM POLICY, THE BROWN ACT COMPLIANCE, AND THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST FORM. SO THE ECONOMIC 700, UM, I DON'T KNOW, UH, IF THAT'S GOING TO TAKE THE ENTIRETY OF THE MEETING. UM, AND IF WE CAN ALSO AGENDIZE SOMETHING ELSE. UM, BUT ANOTHER ITEM THAT DOES NEED TO, UM, BE AGENDIZED BECAUSE OF THE NEW, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS IS THE 8 32 0.7. THE, UM, BASICALLY COMPLAINTS AND PROCEDURES AND THE CONFIDENTIALITY OF PERSONNEL FILES. UM, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT, UM, BECAUSE WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE INDEPENDENT POLICE AUDITOR AND USES OF FORCE. UM, DOESN'T NECESSARILY, UH, I DON'T THINK SEPTEMBER 23RD IS GONNA HAVE TIME, BUT JUST SOME SOMETHING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. AND SO SAY THAT FOR ME ONE MORE TIME, GOING FROM SEPTEMBER 4TH, THE MEETINGS ARE ONLY GONNA HAPPEN EVERY OTHER MONTH? CORRECT. SO THAT THE, UM, BECAUSE NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER FALL ON CITY HOLIDAYS, UH, THERE WILL BE MONTHS WHERE IT'S BACK TO BACK. UM, BUT THERE WILL BE AT LEAST SIX MEETINGS IN 2027. OKAY. UH, IS THERE ANYTHING ON THE, UM, LONG RANGE CALENDAR THAT WOULD LIKE THAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS OR BRING UP AT THIS POINT? I JUST HAVE SOMETHING I WANTED , GO AHEAD. UM, JUST, UH, LOOKING AT THE, UH, FUTURE AGENDA HERE, UM, WILL WE HAVE ACCESS, UH, TO THE LEXIPOL POLICIES REGARDING THESE ITEMS? YES. OUR FLEXIBLE POLICIES ARE UPDATED AND PUBLISHED ON OUR TRANSPARENCY PORTAL, AND WE CAN, UM, SEND OUT A LINK TO THOSE, TO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. THANK YOU. UM, I HAVE A NOTE FROM THE LAST MEETING THAT RV PARKING ENFORCEMENT AND E-BIKES FOR OCTOBER'S MEETING POSSIBLE AGENDA ITEMS. YEAH, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE IF THE OCTOBER MEETING IS STILL HAPPENING NOW. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE, THE OCTOBER MEETING IS HAPPENING. UM, WE HADN'T, UH, BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSATION, WE DIDN'T, UM, COME TO A SOLUTION OR A RESOLUTION OF WHAT THE OCTOBER MEETING TOPIC WAS GOING TO BE. UM, PARKING ENFORCEMENT ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS E-BIKES WAS ONE OF THE TOPICS OF DISCUSSION. GO AHEAD. WELL, I, AGAIN, I'M DON'T MEAN TO HARP ON IT, BUT I HOPE THAT WE COULD PUT IT ON FOR OCTOBER 28TH. AND SO WHEN ALL EVERYBODY KEEPS ASKING, WHY ARE, WHY YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, F**K, IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA TALK ABOUT, THAT WE COULD SAY IT WILL HAPPEN IN OCTOBER, HE'S ALSO HAD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS AND FRUSTRATION, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMER OVER E-BIKES AND RV PARKING IN NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER TOPIC THAT IS, UM, VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE SAFETY OF OUR E-BIKE RIDER AND OUR OTHER PEDESTRIANS AND VEHICLES, THAT IT'S, IT'S RIGHT OUT THERE IN EVERY DAY. WHEN YOU WALK DOWN THE STREET, YOU'RE EITHER SEEING AN E-BIKE, NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES OF THE ROAD, OR YOU'RE PROBABLY ALMOST GETTING HIT BY ONE WHO IS FOLLOWING THE RULES OF THE ROAD, BUT THEY'RE JUST YOUNG. UM, AND THEY'RE DISTRACTED DRIVERS. DO WE THINK THESE ARE TWO TOPICS THAT MAYBE WE COULD SQUEEZE INTO ONE MEETING? I KNOW THAT'S A HARD QUESTION TO ASK . YEAH. UM, I, I THINK, UM, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT E-BIKES AND YEAH. YEAH. AND, AND TO SORT OF MAYBE PUT A LITTLE CONTEXT AROUND IT, WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN VERY DETAILED AND VERY EFFECTIVE SORT OF PRESENTATIONS FROM THE, UM, CITY STAFF AND POLICE DEPARTMENT ABOUT AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READERS. SO I'M NOT A MOST PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE. I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE PART OF THAT. SO I, I'M NOT NECESSARILY ASKING FOR YOU GUYS TO SORT OF DO ANOTHER LENGTHY PRESENTATION OF, OF THAT LENGTH. AGAIN. Y YEAH. I MEAN, IF, TO BE FAIR, UM, TO THE COMMITTEE, I THINK THIS COMMITTEE HAS HAD TWO PRESENTATIONS ON THAT. I THINK THE COUNCILWOMAN HAS TAKEN THAT DIRECTION FROM THE COMMITTEE [00:50:02] AND REPORTED OUT TO THE COUNCIL. UM, THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION HERE. UM, WE PRESENTED AS TO WHAT THE PLATFORMS AND THE OPERATIONS AND THE POLICY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE STAFF COULD REALLY PRESENT TO THIS BODY FOR DISCUSSION. UM, WHAT WAS BEING PRESENTED TONIGHT IN SANTA ROSA IS THEIR COMMISSION'S FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ANY PUBLIC MEETING ON THAT, THAT, UM, THEY HAVE NOT YET HAD ONE, WE'VE HAD THREE TO THIS BODY. UM, FOR THE SAKE OF OTHER TOPICS, UM, I WOULD THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO COVER OTHER CATEGORIES. I, AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, I THINK THERE'S, UM, OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. AND I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, MYSELF AND THE MANAGER CONTINUING TO HAVE CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, OUR CURRENT, UM, PROGRAM. AND, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE A REPORT OUT AT OUR NEXT MEETING, UM, ON THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND, UM, WHERE, WHERE THAT IS. UM, SO I'M, I'M HAPPY TO BRING THAT BACK AND REPORT THAT OUT AT STAFF, STAFF COMMENT IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE COMMITTEE. AND IF THAT SUFFICES, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD. I THINK THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S A PROTOCOL IN TERMS OF THINGS NEED TO BE ON THE AGENDA IN ORDER FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THEM IN THEIR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. SO I THINK THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IT'S, IT'S LESS ABOUT WANTING ANOTHER PRESENTATION AND MORE ABOUT PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA SO THAT THE PUBLIC HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEIR VOICES BE HEARD. SURE. YEAH. AND I, AND I THINK FROM THE NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE AND FROM COMMENTARY AND PUBLIC CONVERSATION, I THINK WE ARE MONITORING AND, UM, TRACKING ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW, EQUALLY AS WELL. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE, WE WERE TRACKING, UH, WHAT WAS REPORTED OUT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'D TAKEN ACTION ON THE, THE, UM, CONVERSATION FROM THE LAST MEETING THAT WAS RAISED BY THIS COMMITTEE. SO I THINK FROM THE DEPARTMENT STANDPOINT, WE'RE TRYING TO BE ATTENTIVE AND, AND MONITORING THOSE THAT WE WOULD DO IN ANY, ANY PROGRAM OR PLATFORM. AND THAT'S BEEN OUR COMMITMENT, UM, PRETTY CONSISTENTLY. UH, YES. THANK YOU. IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN COME TO YOUR MEETINGS AT ANY TIME AND COMMENT ON GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE AGENDIZED. AND IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE, UM, TO JUST REMEMBER THAT. AND IF YOU'RE HEARING FROM PEOPLE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU CAN TELL THEM THAT THEY CAN COME COMMENT. AND, AND, AND, AND I, I DO KNOW THIS. I MEAN, AND PEOPLE DO COME, AND ACTUALLY THE PEOPLE WHO IN THE LAST FEW MEETINGS WHO HAVE MADE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ABOUT FLOCK. AND HOW, WHY WE WOUND UP HAVING THREE DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS WAS BECAUSE IT WASN'T AGENDIZED. IT WAS LIKE, OH, WAIT, WAIT, PEOPLE WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS. AND THEN IT WASN'T AGENDIZED PROPERLY TO HAVE A VOTE, AND THEN WE DID HAVE A VOTE. SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF LIKE, UM, PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO, TO THINK ABOUT THIS AND CARE ABOUT THIS. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHETHER IF THE COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE ASKED TO DO SOME KIND OF ACTION, IT DOES NEED TO BE ON THE AGENDA WITH A ACTION ITEM. CORRECT. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT, OH, SORRY. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR ACTION IS. YEAH. AND, AND WHICH IS AN ADVISORY. RIGHT. AND, AND THAT'S, I THINK WHAT WE'VE CLARIFIED A COUPLE TIMES. I THINK THERE HAS BEEN AN ACTION. THAT ACTION WAS VOTED ON, THE ACTION WAS CARRIED UPON BY THE LIAISON TO THE COUNCIL. NICE. UM, AND THAT'S BEEN REPORTED OUT AT THE COUNCIL. AND THE COUNCIL HAS HEARD THAT. AND, UM, THEY HAVE THE DISCRETION WHETHER TO TAKE ACTION UPON THAT RECOMMENDATION OR NOT. AND SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S BEEN HEARD. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE, WHERE WE'VE STOOD. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE I, I, I UNDERSTAND THE ASK. I I'VE HEARD THE ASK. I, I'M COMPLETELY, UM, UNDERSTANDING OF THAT. I ALSO WANT TO BE, UM, THOUGHTFUL AND, AND AWARE THAT, UM, AT THE SAME TOKEN, THERE MAY BE OTHER IMPORTANT ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT HAVE EQUAL PUBLIC INTEREST. AND, AND YOU DID RAISE SOME VERY IMPORTANT ONES. THEY WON. UM, AND I DON'T WANNA SHIFT OFF COMMITTEE COMMENT INTO STAFF COMMENT NECESSARILY, BUT, UM, JUST LAST WEEK I ATTENDED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S COMMUNITY BRIEFING ON SB FIVE 80, WHICH IS THE ANTI COOPERATION, UM, UM, UM, UM, LEGISLATIVE OF LAW. AND SO THERE IS, UM, GOING TO BE A FUTURE DATE IN WHICH THE COUNCIL'S GOING TO BE TAKING UP HEARING THAT LEGISLATIVE INITIATIVE. AND WE WILL BE REQUIRED TO, BY JANUARY, UM, ENACT LOCAL [00:55:01] RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE ABOUT POLICIES, UM, FOR STATE, LOCAL, OR MUNICIPAL AGENCIES TO, UM, HAVE PROCEDURES FOR INTERACTING WITH FEDERAL AGENCIES. AND SO THAT WILL IMPACT LOCAL GOVERNMENT, IT WILL IMPACT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT ALSO ADDRESSES SCHOOLS, UM, AND A NUMBER OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND AGENCIES. AND SO I THINK THAT CLEARLY IS PROBABLY SOMETHING OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, IMPACTS HERE LOCALLY, IT'LL HAVE IMPACTS FOR THE CITY. AND SO COUNCIL WILL BE HEARING THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INTEREST AT, AT RECENT COUNCIL MEETINGS. UM, IT'S A LARGE, UH, IT'S A LARGE DOCUMENT, UM, WITH A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS IN IT. SO I'M WORKING MY WAY THROUGH IT. UM, WE'VE ALSO BEEN PROVIDED, UM, AS A CITY WITH A DRAFT ORDINANCE AND WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S CONSISTENT. UM, BUT THE CITY'S ALSO DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB THROUGH THE LAST YEARS IN 20 17, 20 19 AND 2024, UM, BEING A LEADER IN OUR COUNTY AND PASSING, UM, RESOLUTIONS, UM, SUPPORTING OUR IMMIGRANT, UM, COMMUNITIES HERE LOCALLY. SO I THINK WE WANT TO THINK WE'VE DONE TOO. UH, WE'VE DONE, WE'VE DONE A VARIETY YEAH. IN, IN A NUMBER OF YEARS. SO I THINK WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, BEING CONSISTENT. I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT THAT THINGS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE BEING CONSISTENT WITH LAW. UM, BUT UM, ALSO WE WANNA BE SUPPORTIVE WHERE WE CAN. SO I'M DIGRESSING AND I'M ALSO DRIFTING INTO NOT YOUR TIME, INTO TO STAFF, STAFF COMMENT. SO I WANT TO DEFER IT BACK TO COMMITTEE COMMENT IF THERE'S FURTHER. AND I JUST WANNA ONLY BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA BE SPEAKING CRITICALLY. THERE'S THREE PEOPLE HERE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN PRIVY TO THE FACT THAT LAST OCTOBER WE, UM, THE POLICE DID A PRESENTATION ABOUT, UM, A-A-L-R-A-P, AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READERS, WHATEVER, IT'S AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE READERS. AND WE HAD SOME PEOPLE COME IN WHO GAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND WE GENERALLY DON'T GET A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING PUBLIC COMMENT. SO I THINK WE WERE LIKE, OH, WAIT, LET'S, LET'S BRING THIS BACK. AND IN JANUARY THERE WAS A BIGGER PRESENTATION AND THERE WAS LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WROTE IN. BUT IT TURNED OUT THAT ON THE, THERE WAS NO AGENDA ITEM IN TERMS OF, UM, THAT THERE SHOULD BE A VOTE FROM THIS COMMITTEE ABOUT WHETHER TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO DO SOMETHING. THAT'S ALL WE COULD DO IS RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AND SO WE CAME BACK THE NEXT MONTH IN FEBRUARY. AND AT THE TIME, AGAIN, PACKED HOUSE, LOTS OF COMMENTS, BUT, UM, THERE WAS, WE WERE DOWN ONE, ONE COMMITTEE MEMBER, SO IT WAS A THREE, THREE COMMITTEE, AND TWO PEOPLE SAID NO, THREE PEOPLE, 3, 3, 3. IT WAS THREE THREE. UM, AND SO IT DID NOT, SO IT DID NOT, IT DID NOT GO FORWARD TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL. SO, UH, JUST THAT'S, BUT I DID, BUT I STILL BROUGHT THE, AS A LIAISON, THE INFORMATION TO THE COUNCIL SO THEY KNEW WHAT TOOK PLACE DURING OUR MEETING. OH, AND I, I'M, I'M, I, I ABSOLUTELY, I WAS THERE AND I KNOW THAT YOU DID THAT. HOWEVER, THERE WAS NOT A, LIKE YOU WERE, DID NOT REPORT BACK 'CAUSE YOU COULD NOT REPORT BACK THAT THE SUBMIT THAT THE COMMITTEE VOTED TO. AND SO THAT'S THAT, THAT'S ALL. I JUST TO SO YOU DON'T THINK WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M REFERRING TO HERE. THAT IT'S, THAT'S WHY IT'S, IT, IT DIDN'T GET A FULL ON RESOLUTION 'CAUSE IT WAS A THREE THREE VOTE AND TWO OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE THAT VOTED NO, ARE NOT ON THIS COUNCIL BY COMMITTEE ANYMORE. OKAY. I'LL SHUT UP NOW. . OKAY. SO I'LL TRY AND MOVE US FORWARD A LITTLE BIT. UM, I THINK THAT THE, UM, RV PARKING AND E-BIKES IS A, IS A GOOD TOPPING UNLESS ANYONE, UH, DISAGREES WITH ME. I, I THINK THERE'S NO, I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS SAYING LET'S NOT PUT THAT IN A IN THE OCTOBER. I THINK WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO TRY AND SQUEEZE BOTH OF THEM IN SO THAT WE CAN SOMEHOW HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT BOTH WITHOUT PUTTING, UM, CITY STAFF OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE, WITH A BURDEN OF TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER ANOTHER PRESENTATION. BECAUSE I THINK AS, AS CHIEF SAID, THEY'VE ALREADY PUT IT TOGETHER THREE TIMES. GO AHEAD. AND ALSO, I, I MISSED A MEETING THIS YEAR OR LAST, WASN'T THERE AN E-BIKE? DIDN'T WE DO AN E-BIKE LAST SEPTEMBER? I FEEL LIKE, DID THAT NOT HAPPEN? UH, NOT A DEDICATED ONE. UM, WE DID A TRAFFIC PRESENTATION MORE BROADLY AND THEN, AND THEN I THINK, UH, MOST PRESENTATIONS, UM, EVEN THE COUNCIL PRESENTATION ON THE IPA EVERY, ALL THINGS LEAD TO E-BIKES RIGHT NOW, . UM, SO EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE KIND OF INTERSECTING IN, IN THAT CONVERSATION. SO, UM, IT, [01:00:01] IT, IT IS, UH, IS ONE OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS LIKE I THINK CHAIR MILLER'S DISCUSSING THAT. I THINK I CAN'T, I CAN'T GO MOST PLACES AND NOT HAVE THAT BE A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION AT THE MOMENT. UM, SO, SO WE CAN, WE CAN DO OUR BEST. I KNOW THAT, UM, WE ARE ALSO, UM, DISCUSSING AT A CITY STAFF LEVEL OF TRYING TO BRING FORWARD A A A A, UH, UH, I'M CALLING IT MORE OF A CITYWIDE PARKING WORKSHOP ABOUT, UM, MORE OVERSIGHT VEHICLES. I DON'T KNOW, UM, IF WE'VE EXACTLY LANDED ON WHAT DATE THAT MAY BE. I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT OCTOBER OF SOME TIME. SO IF IT, UM, MAKES SENSE, UM, WITH THE, THE DATE OF THIS MEETING. UM, BUT IT, IT MAY STILL BE TIMELY TO GET SOME DISCUSSION IN THIS GROUP. AND SO I THINK WE COULD, WE COULD TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY AND BEING MINDFUL THAT WE DISCUSSED TRAFFIC, UM, IN A PRIOR MEETING, MAYBE HAVING A MORE CONDENSED OR MORE FOCUSED E-BIKE DISCUSSION AND TRYING TO WORK THE TWO IN THERE WOULD BE, UM, MANAGEABLE. UM, I THINK WE CAN, WE COULD TRY TO MAKE THAT WORK. ONE MORE. DOES THAT WORK FOR MY STAFF? YEAH, TENTATIVELY THE PARKING WORKSHOP WILL BE, UM, TWO DAYS PRIOR TO THE OCTOBER MEETING, UM, FOR THE TENTATIVE AGENDA. BUT THE, UM, IT'LL STILL BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO REPORT BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE FOR ADDITIONAL INPUT. OKAY, THANK YOU. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE A YES ON PARKING AND E-BIKES FOR OCTOBER AND THEN HAVING THE FLOCK CAMERAS AS A TBD IF THERE'S TIME TACKED ON TO OCTOBER AS WELL. NOT TO THROW ANOTHER MONKEY WRENCH INTO IT, BUT I DO HAVE ON MY NOTES, I THINK IN THE LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, SERVICES TO THE UNSHELTERED AND RESOURCES REVIEW. IS THAT SOMETHING WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT GETTING ON THE LONG RANGE CALENDAR NOW AS WELL? OR ARE WE STILL NOT QUITE READY TO SCHEDULE THAT? I WOULD RECOMMEND HOLDING OFF ON SOME OF THOSE TOPICS AND NEXT MEETING I CAN BRING THE LONG RANGE CALENDAR FOR 2027 AND WE CAN LOOK FURTHER INTO NEXT YEAR AND START POPULATING THOSE DATES. SOUNDS GOOD. UH, IS THERE ANY, ANY DISSENT, ANYONE DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT? I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, THE OVERSIZED VEHICLE PARKING WILL INCLUDE THE RV PARKING CONCERN, CORRECT? IT'S ESSENTIALLY ONE AND THE SAME AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC. OKAY. YES. ALL RIGHT. AND YES, I'M FOR THE E-BIKE CONVERSATION , AND I THINK THE TIMING IS PERFECT CONSIDERING WE'RE GETTING OUTTA SUMMER, PEOPLE ARE GOING BACK TO SCHOOL, WHAT THOSE BEHAVIORS LOOK LIKE AND THE IMPACT. SO I ABSOLUTELY FOR THE TIMING ON THAT, AND I WOULD SAY THE POPULATION OF E-BIKES HAS TRIPLED SINCE LAST YEAR. THEY'VE BECOME LESS EXPENSIVE AND MORE RIDER ARE OUT THERE. AND I AM WONDERING HOW MUCH OF THE POLICE ARE DEALING WITH E-BIKES, AND THAT'S A BIG ISSUE. YEAH. WE'RE HAPPY TO PUT, PUT THAT TOGETHER. AND THEN, UM, I'LL WORK WITH, UH, CITY MANAGER FLYNN AND PREPARE SOME SORT OF REPORT OUT FOR THE LPR DISCUSSION AND FOR THE, UM, E-BIKES, DIDN'T YOU GUYS JUST DO, DIDN'T THE POLICE DEPARTMENT JUST DO, UH, SORT OF AN ACTIVITY WHERE THEY, YOU KNOW, INCREASED VISIBILITY AND AWARENESS OF E-BIKES AND KIND OF INTERCEPTED FOLKS THAT YEAH, WE, UH, OUR TRAFFIC UNIT DID, UM, BASICALLY E-BIKE ENFORCEMENT DAYS. UM, WE'VE DONE TWO, UM, OPERATIONS WHERE THEY ARE ACTIVELY GOING OUT, GOING OUT LOOKING FOR E-BIKE VIOLATIONS, UM, AND THEN LOOKING FOR, UH, WHAT IS AN EMOTO. UM, SO THEY'RE NOT BICYCLES AT ALL. THEY'RE ELECTRONIC MOTORCYCLES AND THEY'RE NOT SAFE FOR, UM, OPERATION ON THE ROADWAYS, UM, ESPECIALLY BY UNLICENSED JUVENILES. SO WE HAVE PERFORMED TWO OF THOSE. AND JUST ANECDOTALLY, WE'RE ALSO, UH, IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ON HOW WE CAN COLLABORATE WITH OUR EDUCATORS ON NOT ONLY EDUCATION, BUT ALSO ON, UM, WHAT SHOULD BE AUTHORIZED, UH, TO BE ON CAMPUS. SO THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE ONGOING. SO THAT WAS ONE QUICK QUESTION I WAS GONNA HAVE. SO WHEN SCHOOL GETS BACK IN SESSION, DO WE ALREADY HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE TO COLLABORATE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SO WE KIND OF GET THAT MESSAGE OUT THE GATE WHEN SCHOOL GETS BACK IN? YEAH, WE WERE, UH, WE MET WITH TWO OF THE THREE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. UM, PETALUMA CITY SCHOOLS HAS A BRAND NEW SUPERINTENDENT. UM, SHE'S WORKING ON ONBOARDING. THEY ACTUALLY HAD TWO OF THEIR YEAR-ROUND SCHOOLS, UH, OPENING THE DAY WE SCHEDULED THE MEETING. SO SHE WAS ON SITE OF THOSE SCHOOLS, UM, FOR THAT FIRST DAY. SO, UM, SHE'S GETTING UP TO SPEED. WE'VE MET, UM, ALREADY, UM, WELCOMED HER TO, TO THE, THE COMMUNITY. SO WE HAD A PRELIMINARY HIGH LEVEL DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME OF THOSE, THOSE, UM, EFFORTS. [01:05:01] UM, I THINK THAT WE DON'T WANNA SPOIL AND HOW WHAT WE'VE AGENDIZED FOR OCTOBER AND GET TOO FAR AHEAD OF OURSELVES AND OVERSHARE, BUT WE, WE DO HAVE A STRATEGY. UM, UM, WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM WHAT MARIN COUNTY HAS BEEN DOING, UM, SUCCESSFULLY SOME TAKEAWAYS THAT, THAT, UH, SOME PAIN POINTS THAT THEY'VE LEARNED FROM AS WELL. UM, I THINK WE HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE, UM, GAPS IN EDUCATION AND SOME OF THE MISSES WHERE IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT. UM, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE NOT CAUGHT UP IN THE LEGISLATIVE GAPS AND SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE NOT, UH, UH, BEEN FILLED THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE CYCLE THIS PAST YEAR. WE SAW A NUMBER OF BILLS NOT GET PASSED, UM, AND, UH, SOME THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD. UM, AND THEN YOU'VE CLEARLY SEEN THAT WE'VE, UM, TRIED TO RAMP UP KIND OF OUR ENFORCEMENT PIECE THAT HAS, UM, BEEN ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE THINGS. SO YES, I THINK THAT, UM, YOU WILL SEE US ON CAMPUS AS YOU NORMALLY DO, OR IN THE AREA OF CAMPUSES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR TRYING TO HELP WITH VISIBILITY. UM, WE DO HAVE A PLAN TO HELP FOR THE VERY, VERY ABUNDANTLY CLEAR, UM, PROHIBITED E-BIKES OR E MOTORCYCLES. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS YOU WILL TRY TO SEE US VERY INTENTIONALLY DO THIS SCHOOL YEAR IS, IS BREAK. WHAT I JUST DID AND PUT MY FOOT IN MY, IN MY MOUTH THERE FOR A SECOND, IS WE'RE SEEING DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT E-BIKES AND E MOTORCYCLES. AND REALLY WHAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS NOT SO MUCH E-BIKES, BUT IT'S E MOTORCYCLES AND EMOS. AND SO WE'LL BE ADDRESSING THE EMOS, UM, PRETTY, PRETTY, UM, UM, UM, AGGRESSIVELY AND TRYING TO GET THOSE OFF CAMPUS AND OFF THE ROADWAYS AND REALLY THE FIRST COUPLE WEEKS ADDRESSING THOSE PROACTIVELY AND CALLING PARENTS AND GETTING 'EM OUT OF THE BIKE CORRALS. AND SO, UM, WE'LL BE WORKING ON THOSE, THOSE ONES THAT ARE REALLY THE OUTLIERS MOST PROBLEMATIC. AND THEN TRYING TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH PARENTS AND GUARDIANS AND ADMINISTRATORS ON THOSE, THOSE KIND OF GRAY AREA ONES. AND CLEARLY IF YOU OR PARENTS OR OR MOTORISTS ARE SEEING, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DOING WHEELIES OUT IN TRAFFIC, CALL US. UM, ALWAYS FEEL FREE TO BE A GUARDIAN OR A COMMUNITY AMBASSADOR AND, UH, TELL OUR YOUNG WRITERS TO BEHAVE APPROPRIATELY. WE ALSO WELCOME THE SUPPORT WHEREVER WE CAN GET IT. UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE MANY OF OUR YOUTH ARE NOT RESPONDING TOO KINDLY TO THAT EXTRA PARENTING OUT THERE, BUT FEEL FREE TO CALL US AND WE'LL HELP ASSIST IF YOU NEED THAT HELP AS WELL. UM, AND THEN WE'LL, UH, FILL YOU IN ON SOME OF THE EXTRA DETAILS ON THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN THE BACKEND, ON, ON SOME OF THE OTHER WORK THAT WE'RE DOING THROUGH, THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENT OF THE TRAFFIC TEAM IN THAT OCTOBER MEETING. OKAY. THANK YOU MUCH. UM, AT THIS POINT I'LL MOVE US FORWARD TO STAFF [STAFF COMMENT] COMMENT AND ASK CHIEF MILLER AND STAFF IF THEY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. I'VE GOT TWO, UH, TWO BRIEF ONES. 'CAUSE I THINK WE COVERED MOST OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GONNA SPEAK TO. BUT, UM, AS THE COUNCILWOMAN, UH, SPOKE ABOUT, WE, UH, WE'RE COMING FORWARD IN AUGUST TO GIVE OUR MILITARY EQUIPMENT, UM, REPORT. WE ALREADY PRESENTED THAT HERE. WE JUST LAST WEEK HAD A DISPLAY DAY AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WAS ATTENDED BY, UH, SURPRISINGLY, A NUMBER OF, OF YOUNG FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN THAT CAME TO THE EVENT. IT WAS IN FRONT OF THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO WE HAD THE EQUIPMENT OUT THERE, UM, FOR ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WISH TO SEE THE ACTUAL EQUIPMENT IN, IN, UM, FIRSTHAND. UM, SO THAT WAS GOING ON. THERE'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY, UM, SOMETIMES THAT'S A DIFFICULT EVENT TO GET TO WITH WORK, BUT IF ANYONE, UM, STILL WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THAT EQUIPMENT, MOST OF IT WILL STILL BE ON HAND AT PETALUMA NIGHT OUT, WHICH IS AT THE PETALUMA FAIRGROUNDS ON OCTOBER 4TH FROM THREE TO 7:00 PM IT'LL BE ACTUALLY INSIDE THE FAIRGROUNDS LOT ON THE CONCOURSE. UM, BUT THIS IS A BROADER CITYWIDE EVENT WITH ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, POLICE, FIRE, UM, CITY DEPARTMENTS AND A LOT OF OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS. SO THE SAFE TEAM, UM, PUBLIC WORKS, ET CETERA. UM, YOU AS COMM COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE WELCOME TO JOIN US AS WELL AS ALWAYS. UM, AND WE'LL HAVE A NUMBER OF ACTIVITIES. WE'LL BE BARBECUING DOWN THERE. WE'LL HAVE A ROCK WALL, UM, AND A NUMBER OF EVENTS. I THINK THE, THE SHERIFF'S HELICOPTER'S GOING TO DO A TRAINING EXERCISE WITH A LONG LINE. UM, SO THEY'LL HAVE THEIR, THEIR, UM, UM, HELICOPTER, UM, HENRY ONE, THEIR, UH, HELICOPTER DEPUTY, UM, DO A, A RESCUE KIND OF, UH, DEMONSTRATION WHERE THEY'LL, UM, BE ON THE ROPE OUT OF THE, THE EVENT. UM, AND NORMALLY THAT'S ONE OF OUR PETALUMA FIREFIGHTERS THAT, THAT'S ON THERE AS WELL. UM, SO FEEL [01:10:01] FREE TO COME DOWN. IT'S A FREE EVENT. THE FOOD'S FREE. UM, ALL THE ACTIVITY IS THREE TO 7:00 PM UM, WE MENTIONED THE E-BIKES AND THEN I CAN'T REMEMBER IF I REPORTED OUT AT OUR LAST MEETING, BUT THE DEPARTMENT, UM, DID JUST, UM, UH, START OUR PROCESS. WE, UM, WERE ACCEPTED INTO THE CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS CAPS PROGRAM AND THEIR SECOND COHORT, SO WE STARTED IN JULY, BUT THAT IS THEIR, UM, ACCREDITATION PROGRAM. SO WE'RE ONE OF THE FIRST 20 AGENCIES WITHIN THE STATE TO GO ON TO PUBLIC SAFETY ACCREDITATION FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. SO IT'S A CALIFORNIA SPECIFIC, UM, ACCREDITATION. SO IN ADDITION TO OUR OVERSIGHT PROGRAM, WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH ACCREDITATION, UM, WITH THEIR STANDARDS THAT, UM, WE'LL BE, UM, AUDITING AND DEMONSTRATING COMPLIANCE WITH OUR, OUR PRACTICES AND POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. SO JUST ANOTHER THING, WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL BE DEMONSTRATING THAT WE DO A GREAT JOB AND SET THE STANDARD IN, IN ALL OF POLICING HERE LOCALLY AS WELL. SO THAT'S IT AND END OF REPORT. THANK YOU MUCH. ANYTHING ELSE WITH THAT? WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 7:16 PM THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.