Pedestrian & Bicycle Advisory Committee
Pedestrian & Bicycle Advisory Committee
Wed, December 6, 2023
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Pedestrian & Bicycle Advisory Committee — December 6, 2023
This was a regular meeting with a full agenda, including three substantive public hearings on active transportation projects. The chair opened by acknowledging that the previous meeting ran too long and asked members to keep comments focused.
General Public Comment
Pete Gangitano announced two upcoming community events: the Second Annual Petaluma Holiday Lighted Bike Ride on December 22nd (starting at Aqus Café at 5:30 p.m., five flat miles, family-friendly), and a community gingerbread showcase entry modeled on the proposed Fifth Street Neighborhood Greenway.
Approval of Minutes — November 1, 2023
Minutes were accepted as presented without changes. No vote was recorded; acceptance was by consensus.
Lynch Creek Trail Improvements (Edith Street to North McDowell Blvd.)
Staff engineer Ken presented plans to close what he called the last major gap in Lynch Creek Trail and improve existing degraded sections. The project covers two segments:
North McDowell to Holly Park: The existing asphalt path has significant cracking and drainage problems. The plan calls for crack sealing, application of a geotextile fabric (P-mat), and a new asphalt overlay. Graffiti removal, improved drainage, wayfinding signage, and striping (including speed-calming markings similar to those used on I Street) are also planned. The problematic intersection at North McDowell will receive striping and minor asphalt improvements to better accommodate cargo bikes and trailers.
Payran to Edith Court (toward Riverbend/Lakeville): This segment will receive an 8–10 foot concrete path, ADA-accessible ramp up to Payran Street, stabilized shoulders, benches, trash cans, and solar lighting similar to the Riverbend installation. The North McDowell/Lynch Creek Trail crossing itself is a separate funded project (a contract with MTC has been signed) that will examine signal improvements, a potential overpass, and possibly an underpass beneath Highway 101.
Key committee feedback included:
Several members raised concerns about the left-turn movement from Payran Street onto Lynch Creek Trail, including limited sightlines coming over the bridge and the need for green pavement markings, signage, or a two-stage turn option.
Members requested wayfinding improvements at the informal maintenance road connection near Burlington and better connections toward Holly Park and McKinley/the fairgrounds.
One member suggested a flashing crosswalk at the Payran access point given sight distance limitations.
Members requested daylighting (brush clearing) near the Payran exit to improve visibility of oncoming traffic.
Lighting under the North McDowell underpass was discussed; staff noted a PG&E agreement makes tying into existing street lights complex, estimating $60,000 for lighting the arch, which will be a separate future project.
The project budget currently appears adequate based on the engineer's estimate, though construction costs fluctuate.
One public commenter urged that the Lynch Creek Trail crossing of North McDowell eventually be designed to give priority to pedestrians and cyclists over vehicles, consistent with the city's draft climate action plan. He also requested recycling containers alongside any new trash cans.
Vote: No formal vote; this was a feedback/advisory item.
Frontage Improvements on North McDowell Blvd. and Corona Road — Meridian and Petaluma North Station Projects
Staff planner Bjorn presented conceptual options for pedestrian and bicycle frontage improvements along North McDowell Boulevard and Corona Road, associated with two advancing projects: the Denko affordable housing development (131 units, already approved) and SMART's new Petaluma North Station. SMART has already awarded a contract to build a multi-use trail extension from South Point Boulevard to Penngrove, including a new signalized crossing of North McDowell and perpendicular rail crossing ramps modeled on improvements in San Rafael.
The core question for PBAC: With approximately 16 feet of frontage to work with along North McDowell, should the city install:
Option 1: A 12-foot two-way multi-use trail (class I) with a 4-foot planted landscaping strip — the recommendation consistent with PBAC's 2019–2020 feedback; or
Option 2: A 6-foot on-street directional (northbound-only) bike lane with a narrowed 5-foot sidewalk and no planting strip.
Committee discussion was substantive. Most members ultimately supported Option 1, reasoning that:
Two-way bike traffic will naturally occur on this segment regardless of intent, given the station location and destinations on both sides.
The wider path better accommodates families, elderly residents from the adjacent mobile home park, cargo bikes, and adaptive cycles.
The planted buffer provides user comfort and separates trail users from traffic.
Several members suggested that if the planting strip needs to be eliminated to gain space near the station entrance (where pedestrian flows will concentrate), that trade-off could be worthwhile — one member shared a Boulder, Colorado example of low concrete barriers as a creative separation alternative.
For Corona Road, staff sought the same directional feedback. The committee supported applying the multi-use trail concept there as well, with one public commenter (a nearby resident and bike commuter) endorsing Option 1 on both streets while suggesting a different treatment on the far (westbound) side of Corona.
Additional concerns raised:
Rail crossing design (ramp geometry, channelization barriers) is largely governed by SMART and the California Public Utilities Commission, limiting city influence — members asked staff to convey concerns about accessibility for non-standard bikes.
Safe routing for children from the Denko affordable housing to Corona Creek Elementary was specifically raised as a benchmark for design quality.
Connections through Brody Ranch neighborhood and along the Corona Creek path should be preserved and signed.
A small city-owned parcel near the station was suggested as a potential activation site (skate park, courts, or other amenity to draw people to the station by bike).
Lighting along Corona Road frontage and project timeline were flagged; staff committed to report back.
Vote: No formal vote; this was a feedback/advisory item.
Draft Active Transportation Project Maps
Staff presented three draft maps — an envisioned bike network, a sidewalk gap and trail network map, and a trail-only network — for committee and public feedback. This is part of the broader Active Transportation Plan (ATP) update process.
Key themes from committee discussion:
Clarity on facility type: Multiple members and public commenters said the maps do not sufficiently distinguish between protected (all-ages-and-abilities) facilities and painted bike lanes. Staff committed to adding bikeway classification designations to the next map revision based on NACTO criteria, so that, for example, high-volume streets like Petaluma Boulevard North would be shown as needing a class IV facility even if currently only a class II exists.
Gaps in the network: Members flagged missing connections, including: the North McDowell/Corona area near the new SMART station; adobe Creek Trail crossing at Lakeville Highway; connections to the rim trail; river trail connections from new subdivisions; and the Eli Boulevard corridor's lack of safe crossings.
Boldness of vision: Several members felt the maps were too conservative and did not reflect the scale of change needed to meet the city's 2030 carbon neutrality and Vision Zero goals. Members urged staff to be clearer about which corridors warrant lane reductions and where the city's investment priorities will be.
Fairgrounds connectivity: Multiple members noted that the fairgrounds is becoming a major year-round destination and that safe, signed bike routes there from surrounding neighborhoods are not clearly reflected.
D Street / Lakeville to Payran: One member revived an older proposal to consider making this segment one-way for vehicles to improve bike conditions.
I Street classification: Questioned by a public commenter as possibly mislabeled.
West Street: A member raised the lack of a continuous bike connection from West Street down to Petaluma Boulevard; staff explained the intended routing via Keller and Prospect.
Correction needed: North McDowell sidewalk gaps shown on Map 3 should be removed, as improvements there are already complete.
Two public commenters echoed the need for a complete, integrated network to achieve mode shift targets, and noted the difficulty of visualizing how trail segments connect across major arterials.
Staff noted the plan will go to PBAC, Planning Commission, and the Recreation, Music and Parks Commission before going to City Council, likely spring 2024. A priority project list will be developed in time to submit a package grant application to the Active Transportation Program (ATP state funding cycle) in summer 2024.
Vote: No formal vote; this was a feedback/advisory workshop item.
Staff Updates — December 2023
Safe Streets Nomination Program is receiving approximately 7–10 nominations per day (369+ as of December 1) for traffic calming and safety improvements citywide.
Slow the Fast Down campaign is active; yard signs, car magnets, and bumper stickers are available. Staff invited PBAC to weigh in on future campaign directions.
Grant updates: The city submitted for MTC technical assistance on the Lakeville Corridor Study; received a recommendation for $400,000 from U.S. DOT Safe Streets for All for that study; and is awaiting word on a $3.2 million Safe Streets for All application for citywide intersection improvements. MTC also confirmed it will provide technical assistance for the ATP grant package submission.
Safe Routes to School Task Force completed a walk audit at McDowell Elementary (ranked #1 for nearby collisions over five years). McKinley is next (ranked #2). December meeting will debrief McDowell; January 18 meeting will preview McKinley.
Garfield Drive and Jefferson Street received new painted bulb-outs and signing this week. The Jefferson/Vallejo improvement was prompted by a collision earlier this year involving a five-year-old child.
Bike Share returning: A two-year countywide pilot targeting summer 2024 launch with approximately 300 bikes. Committee members suggested re-forming a bike share ad hoc subcommittee.
Upcoming presentations flagged for future PBAC meetings: micromobility update (committee member and Pete Gangitano), Slow the Fast Down campaign, Blue Zones traffic calming demonstration, and Bike Share.
Countywide ATP update and Caltrans District 4 Bay Area Bike Plan are both underway; residents encouraged to submit comments, especially regarding connections on unincorporated roads and freeway ramp intersections.
Key Takeaways
Lynch Creek Trail gap closure is funded and moving toward construction in early 2024, with significant surface, drainage, lighting, ADA, and wayfinding improvements planned — but key issues like the Payran Street crossing and North McDowell connectivity remain separate, follow-on projects.
PBAC strongly endorsed Option 1 (12-foot two-way multi-use trail) for both North McDowell and Corona Road frontages near the new Petaluma North SMART Station and Denko affordable housing — a preference consistent with feedback the committee gave in 2019–2020.
The draft Active Transportation Plan maps need revision to explicitly show bikeway protection levels (class designations) and to more boldly reflect the network investment required to meet climate and safety goals; staff committed to updated maps before the plan advances to Council.
The fairgrounds is emerging as a major new destination that multiple members identified as an underserved gap in the current and planned bike/pedestrian network, warranting specific attention in both the ATP and wayfinding planning.
Bike Share is returning to Petaluma as part of a countywide pilot targeting summer 2024, prompting calls to reconvene a PBAC ad hoc subcommittee to shape the local program.
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What happened at this meeting
Approval of Minutes for the meeting of November 1, 2023.
Minutes of the Regular Meeting of November 1, 2023 were approved as presented.
Review and Provide Feedback on Lynch Creek Trail Improvements (Edith St. to N.
Ken Eichstaedt presented on Lynch Creek Trail Improvements (Edith St. to N. McDowell Blvd.). Public commenter Pete Gang spoke during public comment. Committee members provided feedback including recommendations for bike/pedestrian turn indicators at Washington to Payran, wayfinding signs after the bridge, traffic calming measures at Payran, and encouragement for future connections to Washington Creek and Petaluma River walkways.
Review and Provide Feedback on Frontage Improvements on N. McDowell Blvd. and Corona Rd. Associated with Meridian and Petaluma North Station Projects
Bjorn Griepenburg presented on Frontage Improvements on N. McDowell Blvd. and Corona Rd. associated with Meridian and Petaluma North Station Projects. Public commenter Paul Russell spoke during public comment. Committee members reached consensus to support Option 1 and recommended striping on N. McDowell Blvd., wayfinding signage, traffic calming solutions, lighting along Corona Road, and consideration of yield signage.
Review and Provide Feedback on Draft Active Transportation Project Maps
Bjorn Griepenburg presented on Draft Active Transportation Project Maps. Public commenters David Felix and Pete Gang spoke during public comment. Committee members provided extensive feedback including requests for more lighting, improved visibility of green bikeways, clarity on protected bike network, better wayfinding signage, numerous specific corridor and intersection improvements, and recommendations to underground utilities and extend neighborhood greenways.
Staff Updates – December 2023
Bjorn Griepenburg provided Staff Updates for December 2023 as noted in a presentation document posted to the Agenda website.
Agenda items (5)
Procedural (1)
1ProceduralApproval of Minutes for the meeting of November 1, 2023.
What happened
Minutes of the Regular Meeting of November 1, 2023 were approved as presented.Public Hearing
2Public HearingReview and Provide Feedback on Lynch Creek Trail Improvements (Edith St. to N.
What happened
Ken Eichstaedt presented on Lynch Creek Trail Improvements (Edith St. to N. McDowell Blvd.). Public commenter Pete Gang spoke during public comment. Committee members provided feedback including recommendations for bike/pedestrian turn indicators at Washington to Payran, wayfinding signs after the bridge, traffic calming measures at Payran, and encouragement for future connections to Washington Creek and Petaluma River walkways.3Public HearingReview and Provide Feedback on Frontage Improvements on N. McDowell Blvd. and Corona Rd. Associated with Meridian and Petaluma North Station Projects
What happened
Bjorn Griepenburg presented on Frontage Improvements on N. McDowell Blvd. and Corona Rd. associated with Meridian and Petaluma North Station Projects. Public commenter Paul Russell spoke during public comment. Committee members reached consensus to support Option 1 and recommended striping on N. McDowell Blvd., wayfinding signage, traffic calming solutions, lighting along Corona Road, and consideration of yield signage.4Public HearingReview and Provide Feedback on Draft Active Transportation Project Maps
What happened
Bjorn Griepenburg presented on Draft Active Transportation Project Maps. Public commenters David Felix and Pete Gang spoke during public comment. Committee members provided extensive feedback including requests for more lighting, improved visibility of green bikeways, clarity on protected bike network, better wayfinding signage, numerous specific corridor and intersection improvements, and recommendations to underground utilities and extend neighborhood greenways.5Public HearingStaff Updates – December 2023
What happened
Bjorn Griepenburg provided Staff Updates for December 2023 as noted in a presentation document posted to the Agenda website.Verbatim transcript available
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CITY OF PETALUMA, CALIFORNIA REGULAR MEETING OF THE PEDESTRIAN & BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE City Hall Council Chamber 11 English Street Petaluma, CA 94952 FINAL MINUTES Wednesday, December 06, 2023 CALL TO ORDER – 6:30pm ROLL CALL PRESENT: Pamela Asselmeier, Kelly Bond, Nicole Camarda, Adam Garcia, Franklin Quint, Marja Tarr, Brian Barnacle ABSENT: Stacey Earl, Darren Racusen ARRIVED: Kelly Bond – 6:50pm GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT During General Public Comment, the public is invited to make comments on items of public interest that are within the City Council’s subject matter jurisdiction and that are not listed on the current agenda.
e good evening and welcome to the regular meeting of the Petaluma pedestrian and bicycle advisory committee for Wednesday December 6 clerk can you please take roll awesome Meer here Bond Carta here Earl Garcia here Quint here rusen tar here Barnacle present thank you clerk um just before we jump into the agenda I wanted to um acknowledge that the meeting went really long last time and take responsibility for the lack of decorum um and I think that our committee is generally respectful in our conversation is really important and valuable but I just want to remind everybody that Focus very focused comments are important we have quite a few um we have three important agenda items tonight and I don't I know people had to leave last time it got too late so if we can just make sure that we're kind of focused in our uh feedback and maintain respect to to staff and the public and each other that would be appreciated um so moving to General Public comment during general public comment the public is invited to make comments on items of public interest that are within the committee's subject matter jurisdiction and that are not listed on the current agenda public comments are limited up to 3 minutes per person depending on the number of persons wishing to address the committee time will allocated in equal shares totaling no more than 15 minutes and I have one speaker card right now um clerk were there other comments received prior to the meeting no other comments were received for
general public comment thank you and Pete gang it's on okay there we go um I just wanted to announce two things one is the second annual Petaluma holiday lighted bike ride which will be taking place on December 22nd um the first one the first ride was last year we expected 40 or 50 people and got maybe 150 and so I think it's going to be big this year we have 25 sponsors um the ride starts and finishes at Aquis uh at 530 it's a uh a very modest five flat miles um intentionally kid-friendly so um hopefully um publicize it well the other one is uh at the suggestion of chair carda uh a group of residents is uh is building an entry for the gingerbread showcase uh that will be a section of the proposed Fifth Street neighborhood Greenway um it's uh it'll be interesting that's all I can say modeling our our our street Ambitions in gingerbread and candy thank you thank you Pete um okay that closes public comment and we don't have any uh presentations which moves us to the approval of minutes for November 1st 2023 committee are there any changes you would like to be made to the minutes okay then meeting minutes will be accepted as is and let's see going moving to public hearings and matters for consideration our first item is to review and provide feedback on the Lynch Creek Trail improvements eth Street to North mcdal Boulevard and um can I believe you're presenting this item am thank you and and born thankfully is going to be there running this so um and I'll just you know I'll just
Public comments are limited up to three minutes per person. Depending on the number of persons wishing to address the Council, time will be allocated in equal shares totaling no more than twenty minutes, subject to the Council’s discretion (Cal.
start out saying we're not going to be doing actively any design work you know till till you know the start of the new year so if you have comments please you know you we don't need to get you know we welcome them tonight but if you have comments send them send them to beorn and you know we'll put it in there so this shouldn't you shouldn't feel like you need to get everything you know together here um thank you very much chair Carta committee members staff public um to hear about Lynch Creek Trail so this um just a little bit of background this for me is you know the last sort of major Gap closure of Lynch Creek Trail and it's kind of our unpolished Gem of of uh Petaluma and and um you know it's it's looking pretty darn good we're going to close the last Gap and we're going to make some improvements that are needed and then input that you give me are you know things that we want to definitely um Implement either on this project or future one so I'm going to talk first about North McDow to the first pedestrian bridge this is going Downstream or inbound to downtown or towards Holly Park however you want to characterize that and then the next is uh payan to Edith Court um which is towards Lakeville towards the new development Riverbend and then then I'll give you a little summary on the next step so so the north mcdal to Holly Park um this is we're going to make improvements at the at the um roadway there and then going in that's it's a degraded asphaltic concrete pathway and
Gov’t. Code §54954.3(a), Petaluma City Council Rules, Policies and Procedures, III). GENERAL PUBLIC OPENED Pete Gang GENERAL PUBLIC CLOSED PRESENTATIONS - None APPROVAL OF MINUTES 1. Approval of Minutes for the meeting of November 1, 2023.
Minutes of Regular Meeting of November 1, 2023, were approved as presented. PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION 2. Review and Provide Feedback on Lynch Creek Trail Improvements (Edith St. to N.
so we're going to want to take care of the the actual pathway surface um as well as drainage as well as putting in some striping so some of the items here is we'll go in and you know we work with a biologist um to go through and and cut back the vegetation do that at the right time of the year we clean we're going to clean the drainage we're going to seal the cracks um and then the the mitigation for those cracks is to put an actual geotextile fabric on top of them and then put put another layer of asphaltic concrete um going to going to put in try to get rid of as much graffi removal just clean up the whole thing we want to make it Sparkle and um I the way finding signage may not be in this initial contract but you know borin has a lot of really good ideas and we definitely want to do the right thing to get people inbound outbound um you know on the pathway and then you know marking and striping it so this is a engineering drawing because I'm an engineer and you're like what the heck is this but this is if you cut the pathway in a section what are the things that you see here well um on the outside we're going to have we we're going to try to improve the walking surface on the outside so you don't just drop off we're going to um you know obviously on the pathway uh improve that surface of the asphaltic concrete we call it AC um and um you know the drainage is is a is an issue in places on it so we want to make sure that we can drain both sides of the pathway so that's what
this crosssection shows and then as we go up to North mcdal from the very first time I I rode there I just I've never like that that intersection so um we're going to go ahead and and um do some striping and and lay down a little bit more asphalt there to to improve the connectivity and the usability of that so if you're on your cargo bike um your cargo bike with a trailer can you you know can you make that maneuver yes now you can get on the sidewalk um and I will say on on this this whole area the the connectivity of um Lynch Creek Trail to licy um we have a separate project that we're going to look at the improvements for that that are needed and and that's something we've been very fortunate to get some money from uhct to do that work the contract has been signed so that you're going to start hearing that as we move into um uh 2024 and you know beorn don't hesitate if you think there's something we need to add um on any of that but um and just a in a nutshell you know what are the improvements we can make we can make improvements on the the um signalization um we can look at a future overpass we can look at going under there's a drainage cul there they do that on the peninsula a lot getting under 101 so we're going to make improvements on that whole connectivity and then um so then we go from payan to to Edith and this is going to be very similar to what you've already seen um the connection from Riverbend or Edith Court to Lakeville and also what we did by Holly Park so
McDowell Blvd.) 1 Ken Eichstaedt presented and held discussion with Commission. Committeemember Feedback: • Recommend indicators (striping and/or signage) for bikes & pedestrians when turning left from Washington to Payran • Need wayfinding signs after bridge to get back onto Lynch Creek Trail • Encourage Washington Creek and Petaluma River walkway; look at opportunities for more connections and walkways for future improvements • Consider flashing crosswalk at Payran • More daylighting and trimming of brush where needed; i.e., Payran • Encourage traffic calming signage at Payran • Recommend more wayfinding signage and connections throughout the City; i.e., to Fairgrounds PUBLIC COMMENT OPENED Pete Gang PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSED 3.
Review and Provide Feedback on Frontage Improvements on N. McDowell Blvd. and Corona Rd. Associated with Meridian and Petaluma North Station Projects Bjorn Griepenburg gave presentation and held discussion with Committee.
we're going to improve the Ada access to payan which for me is very important just getting up to the street um we're going to have an 8 to 10 foot concrete path um we're trying to get it as wide as we can within what we can work with there have the one to two foot stabilized um you know um Corine stabilized shoulders on that again get rid of graffiti remov look at the way finding and Mark and stripe so um so we're going to we're going to have trash cans and locations um we've got five benches and then we've got the lighting system similar to what is at Riverbend um and um that's going to be going in that is solar so and with that um take any questions that you might have thank you Ken um Pam can we start with you thanks Ken that was great glad to see where um uh polishing this up like you said I think it is a gem what what kind of uh lighting were you thinking is going to be included um at the underpass I I wasn't quite sure if you said there was something that was on the slide that I missed I saw the solar along the other section yeah wow you are you drilled right in on that P I thought about like somebody is going to ask it um and so thank you um so we we've got we've got a light standard up on on the bridge um the difficulty is getting a getting a meter because we can't obviously do solar um although I I was sort of thinking could we put a panel somewhere out there but then vandalism and people stealing it and that got too complicated so I'm like well we're just going to
go hook up to the the light standard we might be able to do it it's kind of a separate project I looked at it on the the arch I'd like to get Lighting on the arch and PG you know we've got we figured out how to do it we just tie in here it was very simple and PG says no you know the the agreement and and Gina is going to know more get into the details if you really want to know about it but I I recognize that and it's going to it's going to need to be a separate project where we would have to put in another meter I've got a light standard I I would I think we could just tie into it and I'm going to check on that but they weren't um it's $60,000 to try to light the arch and and I we haven't we will eventually do it I just didn't have the you know so when you refer to the light standard is that at the highway level and you're just adding another fixture that points back down yeah there there's an agreement that City PG has where we can tie our light when I say light standard so that's the street light so you know I've got a street light there I looked at it it's got it'd be simple to run the Conduit on the bridge you know structure and then drop it down to um you know the the flood wall and run run lighting along there um so I already know how to do it but it's it ends up being an issue with pg& um you know the the the wattage needed isn't that great I'm I'm pretty I don't think there would be any issue in trying to do that but they the agreement that the city has to do that is
Committeemember Feedback: • Overall Committeemember concensus to support Option 1 • Recommended striping on N. McDowell Blvd • Encourage wayfinding signage • Look at solutions to slow traffic down • Consider lights along Corona Road • Look at removing foliage strip • Consideration of yield signage 2 PUBLIC COMMENT OPENED Paul Russell PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSED 4.
very specific so okay thank you for that um that's that's all I've got thank you council member Barnacle um okay I have a few questions let's see I'm wondering on the um the entrance if you're going east on payan and you're making a left are there going to be any like indicators in the street for bikes or pedestrians I guess so you're on you're on the roadway and you you've you've come over from the Boulevard on and you're on the bridge and you're coming down you want to make a left yeah onto Lynch Creek Trail and drop down there and how do you know I that's the way finding signage um but there's not not going to be any striping or anything on the road it's it's a it's the roadway is probably 35 35 ft in width um you know I got rid of the parking right at the at the ramp there that you would you want to drive over so people the sight lines are improved I met with with um Peter and Bruce out there on that and that got done um but it at this point um we were just looking at um at wayf finding but it I'm just trying I'm thinking out loud it's something we consider I mean I don't have a I don't know how we would do that to put some striping in there or maybe even just another sign like bikes ride with traffic or some way I know we're I ride on there with my kids and we're in the middle of the lane before we get there to make sure that you know they see us stopping to wait to make that left so you can make that left um with the oncoming traffic yeah um yeah I don't okay thank you
PUBLIC COMMENT OPENED David Felix Pete Gang PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSED Committeemember Feedback: • Consider more lighting and signals • Need the green bikeways to pop out • More clarity on what is the complete protected bike network • Address intersection issues • More wayfinding signage • Recommend to underground utilities • Encourage more one-way streets • Get people to City center safely • City-wide complete connections • Corona Rd, Sonoma Mtn Pkwy – City Limits: add bikeway • N McDowell Blvd, SMART tracks – Corona Rd: add trail along Danco frontage • Casa Grande Rd, Garfield Dr – City Limits: add Adobe SP and connections • Ely Blvd S at Washington Creek Trail: add trail crossing and access improvements • Payran Rd at Lynch Creek Trail: add trail crossing and access improvements • Kentucky St, Oak St – Cherry St: extend proposed neighborhood greenway and explore connectivity with Petaluma Blvd N • Petaluma Blvd N, D St – Lakeville St: reclassify proposed neighborhood greenway as on-street bike lane • I St, 8th St – Petaluma Blvd S: reclassify proposed neighborhood greenway as on-street bike lane • Bodega Ave, N Webster St – Howard St: add new crosswalks • Western Ave at Fair St: add intersection improvements 3 • Lakeville St at East Ct and Lindberg Ln: add crosswalk improvements • Lakeville St at E Washington St and D St: add intersection improvements • Ely Blvd S: improve uncontrolled crosswalks and add new crosswalks • N.
we could look to see if we have width to maybe do some sort of either like a two-stage turn um you know to cross over if you're if you're riding what direction is that in our confusing on a confusing axis um if you're riding you're riding towards Washington on pan that's the left turn you're describing yeah okay we'll look at that um and then after the bridge when you're going towards McDow on the Lynch Creek Trail there's an informal path that goes towards Burlington um and I've actually helped people get out of the creek who have gone on that path and tried to cross over to get back on the LCT right so some way finding I guess would be important about like LCT this way or are you talking about Holly Park you're saying Berling oh I see where you are on um on Burlington um that yeah um I mean the some of these connections are sort of the next phase of what I want to improve and I think you know the wayfinding Sig off the trails certainly um you know that that's easy but then also improving the surfaces of some of the connector trails that would be a possibility yeah it wouldn't be it wouldn't be in this project likely um it could be if it's if we can you know um kind of do it as a change order or something in there and I'm definitely thinking about that but it might end up being kind of a next next phase for the for the work I I I need to do you understand yes yeah I think I think what we're looking at is that so we have a Citywide wave finding project that um we want to get
going into the uh into planning and design and uh that would address the whole entire system throughout the city so including it's an informal path but it's a nice connection oh yeah that's it's designated as a it's designated it's Public Access it's it's not you're not breaking any laws by writing on that um are you are you talking about the the maintenance road that goes oh yeah yeah yeah okay yeah that's part of our active Transportation Network so uh yeah that's that's a connection that's something we would sign as part of the Citywide project and we currently have the budget to complete this project the one that you presented that's in the budget it looks like I haven't gone out to bid with it but the engineers estimate shows that we have that have the monies in there and it you know things in in the construction world things change rapidly on it but right now we do yeah okay thank you so much Ken and I'm really excited about uh improved Crossing at McDow that would be great yeah well that's yeah and that's like I say a separate a separate project there but I'm yeah I'm I'm uh very anxious to get that going and look at it and and I'm sure beorn's told you but you know we're doing Corona you know the a bike connection reer um North mcdal and then McKenzie doing all four of those yeah um Adam great thank you um yeah I definitely support Nicole's point about just needing that connection espe on payan but um as you're coming off I know that's yeah outside of the scope I just
McDowell Blvd: remove sidewalk gaps addressed in recent project • All US-101 freeway interchanges: add intersection and crosswalk improvements • Riverfront Master Plan area: add existing and planned streets and trails • Rim Trail: explore potential trail access points See comments from Committeemembers Asselmeier and Garcia posted on the Agenda website on 12/07/23.
Staff noted this item will be brought to this Committee again. Plan to bring to Council for adoption in Spring/Summer 2024. COMMITTEE COMMENT Committeemember Tarr Committeemember Garcia Chair Camarda Committeemember Bond Councilmember Barnacle Committeemember Asselmeier STAFF COMMENT 5.
wanted to second that just considering the connections uh and I think getting back to something you said Ken also about just Lynch Creek Trail being kind of like the unsung hero I guess I was just thinking of other projects that are out of scope as well too so um but things that maybe you can plan for within this um project specifically so where my mind was going to I think was where uh Washington Creek that bridge Washington Creek and um Petaluma River meet and I it's a I was just looking online it's a um partial fish passage barrier there's kind of like the little concrete you know there um and at one point I remember riding by and seeing some kids down there just kind of interacting playing with the water down there and I just thought to really celebrate the river means kind of interacting with it or providing planning for opportunities to interact with it so what I guess the proposal might be is just having some type of safe but informal walkway that's kind of Rocky that you could almost walk across that and allow you know to walk across um Washington Creek not sure if that location like if you know where I'm talking about so this is by Holly Park so if you're you're payan heading um you're going to go across the bridge of Washington Creek so on either side of that you know possibly getting some access or something yeah kind of just a simple and access I think we have not totally um at all understood and certainly not you know we haven't developed any of the potential for
any of that I look at from North McDow um on you know Washington Boulevard paralleling Washington Boulevard there's a there's there's there is a maintenance Road in there so we've got sort of maintenance roads trails along all these drainage ways and they they we don't own them all sowa water has some um and and I think that there's a real potential of developing all those and having all this connectivity so um yeah anyway it's and I there is a uh a trail an existing kind of recreational natural surface trail that does run so I pulled it up on screen screen share here um this is Washington Creek uh and if you follow the yeah East basically the East Bank of the creek that is a that is a a formalized trail that allows access yeah I yeah and I would like to get Ada access into that Park and I don't have that yet and I'm still kind of mulling that over the opportunities don't stop believe me no further questions thank you Franklin yeah no no uh no questions uh just wanted to comment and say you know as a eastsider um and someone who uses a bike to get from the East side to downtown uh really excited about it so good thank you Mara thank you I have I have some questions um Can for example um let me start with when we were talking about making a left turn across payan and then going down to the Lynch Creek Trail could we stripe just do our green and green and not green stripes across along with signage on both sides that's kind of what I was thinking is this some sort of sherrow
configuration and I don't I don't have the quite the concept in my mind beorn's really good at those things so but that's kind of what I was thinking is just some way of you know giving some breadcrumb you know situation but also flagging a conflict area so you're you know just getting some paint on the round for directional you know control and and and conflict you know understanding to the users so yeah I just thought that might be an alternative yeah yeah no I think it is um again the width is we don't have much width there and um you know the city when we get down below 40 ft of width um that's where we have challenges in doing some of those things but yeah understood yeah absolutely I have another question I got lost in the very beginning because I usually when I think of Lynch Creek Trail I started Lakeville or I start at Water Street and I walk East so okay you you started your presentation moving the other direction so I think so when you started you were talking about the segment um that goes from North McDow to going in the direction of Lakeville mhm and it's the ass it's the current ass fa part of our pathway right correct both sides from The Underpass so we don't do anything on the 101 underpass but we go both both sides of that so that's where you're going to it's again going to be the the surface of that area you know it's always concerned me because we've got splits and cracks and crevices and it is such a dangerous area for Wheelchairs and Walkers and and
bicyclists and little kids and everybody's always falling into the crack and then crashing so so um it does concern me so the surface is going to be made of it's asphaltic concrete it's going to be the same same surface that's there but we're going to go ahead and put a what they call P mat which is a geotextile fabric and it it gives the ability to kind of bridge we're going to fill the cracks and then it and then it's going to bridge those um you know that surface there um that basically goes through shrinking Ag and expansion you know summer and winter conditions so yeah okay thank you and then did you mention a pathway to Holly from Street Trail up to the the road Holly Road yeah I mean I I want to start seeing once we so this you know we we we did the work up at Prince Park we've done you know payan section we've you know we did Fox Hollow we've done all these things we're closing the last Gap and now I want to start looking at the connections that we need to get you know viable connections hopefully you know ADA Compliant to the neighborhoods you know we get we've got the main drag done now let's start working on some of the other ones so well I just keep thinking that if we if we're still having I don't know whether you are or not but access accessibility onto the payan street uh payan Bridge has always been dicey because it's not ADA compliance and if we can't do that couldn't we use one of those Pathways going into Hol no we we can make an ada8 compliance it's been
surveyed it's been surveyed we got to do we got to pull back a little bit of the Army Core work um in order to to get the elevations to all work but you know there's there's you know we're doing a little um we're we're having to adjust all the grades to allow for Ada and we just we bench it up so you like you've seen you know you you you go up at slopes and you get a you know a rest bit of Landing service then you go up the next step oh that's just awesome because that way it's an easy connection hopefully for those who have Mobility devices and get to the library or the swimming center you know the parents pushing their kids or or however yeah totally cool thank you so much CU this Lynch Creek Trail has meant a lot to me in the last few years and it's lovely seeing where we've come and where we're almost ready to I feel like we need to cut a ribbon or something I I think so that would be good yeah and I did I did talk with friends of Lynch Creek Trail um and just let them know about this presentation and such so um but thank you very much Ken go ahead um so just a followup question and comment so just to understand when you're talking about filling and cracks what are you actually keeping and what are you kind of starting from scratch I was thinking from the engineering view it looked like you were starting from scratch but then I was confused no we're leaving everything in there we're not having cracks are you are you filling well there's just these these longitudinal
cracks and and you know I wrote it last week like oh my gosh these things I filled them once I I filled them in a couple years ago and tried to seal as much of the the surface um you know the degradation of the of these type of Pathways is is the water it gets in there so if we can seal that all up that'll that'll help immensely so when so you know before we put in put on the layer of geotextil fabric and the final layer of asphaltic concrete we're going to go ahead and seal all the cracks seal everything there so we're trying to get as you know impermeable of a surface um going on to that yeah okay then you're just building on top of it building right on top of it yeah got it y yeah um and then thank you for that and then just I guess to belabor the payan um Crossing I think going a little further than kind of the striped um markings on the ground seemed appropriate just given that um southbound approach I think coming up over the bridge your line of sight is very limited you know so you can't really see anything on the ground let alone somebody you know shorter folks Crossing or something so if there's yeah if there's up for future discussion I would definitely recommend putting some type of kind of flashing crosswalk just to make sure that if you did want to be able to get across safely or move what have you that yeah that yeah um yeah it's kind of a little bit of a funky area on it so and just to add to that when you're um coming out of the Lynch Creek Trail back on to
payan and making a right that it needs to be like a lot of daylighting and brush cut back because it's hard to see the oncoming cars and we I have to pull out like fairly wide to get enough speed going up right cuz you're going up on the incline there yeah there's no vegetation there though I are you talking about it so if you're you're on Lynch creete Trail and you're going to turn right on to payan and go up to the boulevard that that movement okay yeah yeah so then on like going towards Washington side there's a truck that usually parks there and I think there's like a um open kind of like Cyclone Fence area now but yeah there is this bush it's hard to see around yeah hedge yeah um I don't I have to see I don't think that's city property um but I'd have to check on it we can we can we can look at that I actually think you know maybe some more paint in the road there we could do something to kind of try to bulb that out in a in fact I um that was an idea actually I think Pete might have mentioned it but just try to put do a do like a a quick build bulb out there and put some some vertical elements to give a little more presence to it and um I met with a neighbor they were nice to they didn't mind losing the parking space I was I was like good but um yeah um that's a good idea we could definitely do something there and I will say I'm we've spent a fair amount of time just on the striping um in this section of Lynch Creek Trail to try to get people we don't want people
whizzing down there so I'm trying to narrow the pathway put speed gradation markings in we use it for motor vehicle traffic we did it on I Street so I'm I'm doing the same thing here to I get complaints of you know oh those electric bikes are going too fast and people are speeding and so just to give you know some presence on the pavement there to you know so it doesn't look like a you know a highway to cyclists that are going really fast so yeah thank you Kelly I know you just arrived would you do you have any comments to okay so with that will open public comment the public is invited to make comments on this item public comments are limited to 3 minutes per person if you haven't done so already please fill out a speaker card and bring it to the clerk clerk have you received any comments on this item prior to the meeting there were no public comments received thank you and I don't have any speaker cards right if I may please fill it out right now sorry for uh defying the the rules and order as long as I'm here uh I have a couple of comments about Lynch Creek Trail which I ride often one is is about where Lynch Creek Trail crosses North McDow Boulevard in the last week or two weeks I've been going through through the the document called uh petaluma's carbon reduction blueprint the greenhouse reduction plan which is our draft climate action plan and one of the items in there is a Mobility priority policy which talks about in all of our transportation planning giving priority
to pedestrians and then bicycles and other forms of uh micromobility and last giving priority to motorized vehicles and that suggests to me that where Lynch Creek Trail crosses North mcdell if we're thinking long term shouldn't we be giving priority to um pedestrians and non-motorized vehicles um in in some way of um I don't know signalized intersection um number two wave finding I know we're working on it it's really really critically important if one doesn't know about the existence of Lynch Creek Trail you just don't know that it's there uh and my final comment is about trash cans um again given what I'm reading about in the this greenhouse gas reduction blueprint every place we have a trash can at least have a recycling container so a one landfill and one recycling thank you thank you for those comments and that closes public comment and brings it back to the committee for discussion no further discussion yes please I have a couple of things I didn't have any questions but I did have comments um I want to Echo the calls for traffic calming and signage um at at payan that really is a it startles a lot of drivers just like it does uh just like it does people on bikes and walking um also Echo the calls for turn here signs and things like that I mean I ride I ride it frequently and I feel like every time I ride it on like a first Friday at five bike ride I wind up like going straight where I need to turn because I just don't pay attention um and then the final thing that I
think um is worth mentioning is the fairgrounds is going to become a much more relevant destination in the future and so connections from a holly um to Lynch Creek Trail is going to become um an important connection as is the the connections on on payan um and I'm not sure that we have like a solid uh way for someone who lived on rineer to get to you know they to get to Lynch Creek um but once you're on Lynch Creek I don't think it's clear like you know so when you think about uh wayfinding signage and things like that like Fairgrounds this way something like that and like try and steer people toward a safe route to get to the fairg grounds cuz um there's going to be um orders of magnitude more people going there on a daily basis um you know starting next year so that's my thought thank you yes yeah one maybe more question um from asking for technical Transportation expertise in these kind of situations a lot of these tight turns um around uh Lynch Creek and payan um especially on the the pathway side um are there I know there's like the um uh kind of the concave mirrors that are used sometimes but if I was a kid I just want to break them yeah I'm just like is there any other solution or well what we what we ended up doing there is markings on the pavement where we we tried to really give um you know give the user if you're coming down um from payan to give the user this ability push them push them out far enough so that we don't end up with a conflict Zone there with you
know people coming under the bridge you know heading we'll say East um and then somebody coming down from payan wanting to Head West on the trail and that that movement is something that you know we've got pain on the ground to try to you know give a little bit um better um you know try to try to slow the traffic down B try to slow you know bicyclist down on that so that's kind of how we were thinking about it putting putting in that's definitely you know some sort of a mirror or something is definitely there I mean yeah i' I've had a couple instances where just that that particular movement and I'm I'm heading westbound somebody's going the other way but they're on they're well the guy was on a electric single wheel machine I was like wow you're going really fast so much faster than I was expecting so yeah um I know and there's no way to really improve the view because of the height difference uh something that I sometimes do for safety purposes and maybe you could have a little sign is that if you are going um eastbound you know hauling really going fast or whatever it's like yeah there's definitely a conflict there but just being able to ring yourell or honk your horn do something to let people you're coming however you say that succinctly in a sign right so then when you're coming down you can at least hear oh there's some audible noise or something like that yeah yeah but just Don upon me I don't know how like do the one wheelers can you honk your horn if option for this
use it with a cowbell around your neck or something but something to encourage maybe Behavioral change in terms of yeah ring your bell call out when you're coming up I think in all the projects we do we you know we solve one problem but then you know we may create another problem it's lesser of a problem and we're trying to get people walking and biking and taking Transit um I just council member Barnacles I just wanted to to reflect on that connections to the fairground because that that was something we got the main library we got a shopping center we got the pool we got the skate park we got a Transit Center there you know we got all the these different things going on originally I was like well we'll get them to payan and then we'll go there and I go payan is crazy you know so we get them Holly Park and Ellis and get them in there so that's I think that's and that'll help McKinley um so I think there's some Synergy with doing all that so anyway I just wanted to say that yeah [Music] thanks any other comments thank you moving to item three review and provide feedback on Frontage improvements on North McDow Boulevard and Corona Road associated with the meridian and Petaluma North Station projects and um can I stat this is you again I believe this one's actually me thank you uh sorry for the confusion thank you and good evening committee members um this should be a fairly quick item uh just uh wanted to take an opportunity to uh bring something back to the commit that hasn't
been before you for a few years so for several of you this will be new um the uh Deno affordable housing project and pedman North Station are both moving forward this is up at uh near the intersection of Corona Road and North mcdal Boulevard the uh the Dano project in includes 131 um affordable housing units and obviously the pedan North Station project will be Smart's new uh second station uh up in this area and uh the Deno project has already been approved so um that that project uh the site plan and and all of its um uh circulation components are are all set to go will not be coming back to pack for review but the city right now is working closely with um with Danko and their Engineers as well as smart to try to finalize the frontage improvements on North mcdal Boulevard and Corona Road and so that's something we do have some ability to influence before this project goes to construction so I wanted to take this opportunity tonight to just talk through this uh at a very high kind of conceptual level without engineering drawings try to simplify it as much as possible and really focus in on pbac's feedback on um what you would like to see on these two frontages um when we came when when uh the uh developer and um and our community Community Development Department engaged pbac last in 2019 and 2020 uh as noted in the staff report pbac's feedback was preference for class one multi-use trails along uh along North mcdal Boulevard so that's something that I wanted to um uh Circle
back on confirm that that is still the case and also I just wanted to take this opportunity to kind of explain sort of the circulation through this area because I know it can it is a little confusing to and it's difficult to uh to visualize so I did uh in addition to this map which was attached in the agenda um have have prepared a couple of really simple images that I'll share tonight um but first I'll just kind of walk you through this image so uh again this is see yeah you can see my cursor so this is North mcdal Boulevard here is Corona Road Project site is on this triangular piece of land includes both again uh the the Danko project and the smart Smart Station which is uh located in in this area and so smart is actually already um have already awarded the bid to construct their uh multi-use Trail extension from South Point Boulevard to pengrove as well as their uh as as well as the the station itself and so following that path of travel the the smart Trail extension will be located on the east side of the tracks it will come up to North mcdal Boulevard make a nice uh 90° crossing of the tracks access a widened sidewalk up to um uh near uh one of the intersections with uh the mobile home park here and there will be a new signalized Crossing taking people across North mcdal Boulevard um from that point there's a decision point where you can um cross the tracks and continue on uh the smart Trail on the east side of the track or you could um bike eastbound walk or bike
eastbound along North mcdal Boulevard um if you're biking Northbound on North mcdal Boulevard there's a there will be a ramp from the sidewalk or from the bike lane up onto the side the widen sidewalk to again facilitate that um that safer crossing of the tracks the whole goal here is to have people cross the tracks whether they're walking or biking at a perpendicular angle and in a in a controlled fashion um and I'll just show a couple of examples from other Crossings that'll be that are this will be very similar to so this is down at Anderson Drive in San Rafel um uh highlighted here is the is the path of travel for people biking through this Crossing so again uh exiting from the on street bike lane onto uh off Street Trail crossing the tracks that are right in angle and then accessing a ramp back down onto the bike lane got some images here this is what the those ramps look like down in San Rafel where you access the sidewalk this is what the uh one of the crossings looks like you can see someone actually taking advantage right there in the other direction same idea a ramp up before the rail Crossing and then again uh here's your more controlled rail Crossing so that's just trying to help you visualize what uh will be in place on North mcdal Boulevard again um with the ramps uh in both directions so um couple things wanted to get your feedback on tonight again the North mcdal Boulevard Frontage improvements so we are looking again just at the project site no changes would
be made to the southbound Direction on North mcdal Boulevard so that will still be the uh class 4 protected bike lane that we have in place today um up until again until that signalized Crossing with the new and improved sidewalk uh and and rail Crossing so we want to focus in on this uh Frontage on the Northbound side of North McDow and I have a couple of crosssections there and then I also want to get some feedback on Corona Road do not have crosssections there to share um but we'll go to North mcdal first so again these are we've there's been a lot of back and forth um between the city and and even within the city talking to fire about their requirements uh to be able to access the the the buildings on the project site and uh we have we've essentially have about 16 feet to play with here um where we can accommodate uh some combination of bicycle and pedestrian facilities and um and Landscaping strips so uh this is our our recommended option this is consistent with the feedback that pbac provided back in 2020 to provide a to to maximize make the most of that width and basically maximize it by um providing a a a two-way multi-use trail that would allow people to walk and bike in both directions along the north side of of North mcdal Boulevard along that along the project site and the alternative would be um a an on Street directional bike lane like we have today again that that eats up a bit of of uh real estate and it does take away the sidewalk would be narrowed um
somewhere between five and five and 8 feet and we would likely wouldn't recommend uh including a planning strip because we do expect this to be a pretty busy sidewalk and 5 foot sidewalk is is quite narrow so um those are are basically the the two options that we are looking at um wanted to get your feedback on that and then likewise with Corona Road um it's Corona Road is uh there are still a lot of moving pieces there but we are kind of we're looking for the same feedback on how to maximize our our right of way availability and and get packs feedback on whether you would prefer to see um on street bike Lans versus widened uh multi-use Pathways basically wide sidewalks that are that that accommodate people walking and biking in both directions so that happy to turn it over to you for questions thank you bjn um marer may we start with [Music] you gosh I haven't seen this lately but I do remember it from a bit of time ago um looking at the two I'm looking at the page which is titled North McDow Boulevard Corona Road to Smart Tracks um I prefer I think or I guess I I need questions if we were to do option number one um where we're talking about a multi-use trail for bikes and Peds would it be striped yes we can we can stripe it we can uh we can do EDG lines and a dashed Center Line would be would seem appropriate my second um question is um are there going to be power poles allowed in this area no I believe I I would have to double check but I believe all of the utilities are
being undergrounded okay um looking down at the very bottom of this page you referenced this class one Trail would provide adequate width for two-way travel for people on foot and bike what do we what constitutes adequate so a class one Trail uh the minimum width is 8 ft with 2T shoulders and uh so in this location we have 12T and uh you could count the planning strip would uh would could count as um shoulder space it's basically you want you need a little bit of a shy shy distance or a little bit of a buffer from any sort of um you know edges of curbs or or vertical objects um but 12T is sufficient great thank you for that that's all I have thank you Franklin so um so I'm just trying to Envision this site when the housing is built and the train station is there and um and you know if there's you know a fair amount of activity uh in this space um personally uh I like the idea of separating the biking from pedestrians uh For You Know The Pedestrian Sate you you know for The Pedestrian safety um so I I would have to you know give my vote to option to it would be my preference sorry I'm thinking just got to think this through go ahead yeah um thanks yeah I think I would I'm wrestling with this as well um feel like I need more time to think about but my gut follows kind of what Franklin's saying just around thinking about the importance of separating you know faster bikes given micromobility and electric electrification um but I could yeah probably easily swayed the other way but
that's I guess where I'm feeling initially is I guess that's option too thank you Adam um I I think the planting strip adds a lot to user experience in that area actually and I I think that could be nice I like the idea of the maximum distance for bike and ped between car and I think that's really important um I am thinking about the mobile home park and like more elderly people disabled people living over there and their experience being on a multi-use trail with the bikes and um I think I think that it is possible for us to have both on that section it's not a long section um in like in a harmonious way um and I'm I'm trying to think about the project like where the train station will be where people will be getting off of the train which is like in that acute angle near the um Brody ranch right and then between that and North McDow that's going to be parking lot I'm imagining people will be riding their bike through there rather than getting on Corona That's I think what I would do and then what would the movement be from there would there be like a fence or could I just go through the parking lot and get into that Corona intersection right there to get into mcdal or would I have to go up get off of the train cross the tracks go to that signalized intersection and ride Corona down yeah so I think uh there are few people are going to do a lot of different things um the expectation for people biking uh using the smart Trail is that they are using Corona to get to and from
between the station and Trail um if however I do think the natural desire line might kind of send people through the site and uh possibly have them use this this sidewalk in a going going Southbound um to get down to that signalized Crossing and then continue either on southbound McDow or on the smart Trail that's a a very likely scenario that will happen I think so um that was another uh I think Merit to the to the multi-use trail idea was that it does formalize two-way bike traffic on a stretch that is does seem likely to have it and is there like the this blue arrow going I don't know if this is north on Corona like where what are there's no improvements going to be made there or is there a way that those people could go through Brody Ranch somehow and have a safer route like even navigating that round about is a little bit tricky um for non-experienced cyclists I would say yeah there is there is access you can see this uh pathway from Corona that that leads you kind of into Brody Ranch and then um you could wind up kind of through the neighborhood if you're trying to go um up onto Snow Mountain Parkway yeah that would that's definitely some way finding there would be helpful yeah this area of Corona past the tracks is is outside of this Project's uh limits we're basically looking at everything from the from the rail Rail and Trail Crossing uh to the West those are my questions thank you Kelly I'm just wondering what um excuse me thought you've given to Transitions since
we do have a lot of um you know I'm thinking about I'm going north on McDow and if it is a Class one what does that transition look like across Corona on to like do you anticipate green striping across that intersection so bikes going to keep going but people on the sidewalk would use the the crosswalk or um I'm just thinking about the transition points from different classes and if it would make sense to do a class 4 just for continuity sake uh for I I don't know um I I could be persuaded either way but I'm just wondering about Transitions and thought there yeah that'll need some careful design we we do have a little bit we have a little more real estate as you approach the intersection actually where um we may even be able to if we had a so if we had a multi-use trail we may even be able to kind of transition the bike lane class 4 off of the sidewalk bring it down to street level up to the intersection and then look at um would I would would love to try to get some sort of a protected um intersection in place where you know people biking don't have to worry about sharing a signal phase with right turning traffic or their positioned ahead of the right turning traffic that's that that's one of the big uh items that we need to figure out um but yeah that so I don't have a good answer other than we are looking very closely at that transition back at the intersection what was the proposed material for if you said it if it was a a class one would it uh it would be it would be
concrete um yeah okay um is there at at some of the proposed Crossings or those places where there's um right angles and people might be just reminding me we're just talking about payan and the lych creek trail and people coming and turning from different directions um do you anticipate those spaces being sufficiently wide to you know long bike meets a a a parent with a big stroller or something uh to be able to make those turns uh you know smart really drives the design on those facilities because they're they are uh they're they're rail crossings and and a lot of and it's driven by both smart and and the CPU so uh there's not much say that we have on on the dimensions and design of those of those rail crossings unfortunately is are the kind of the safety bars or whatever their the technical term is that we have near the crossing at Lakeville is that outside of the city's Juris jurisdiction to influence too because those are really challenging for bikes as well yeah that's a that's a point well taken um yes those are those were put in place by smart um yeah and and the whole idea is likewise you know the new Crossing at payan they're kind of using um channelization to try to slow people down and uh as they approach rail crossings and that's um my understanding is that that's all kind of driven by the um California Public Utilities Commission so um yeah any any feedback you have on the those Crossings we would be happy to pass along to smart and uh yeah it couldn't hurt
because I hear I have the same concerns about um adaptive bikes cargo bikes tandom you know any sort of non-traditional bike uh those Crossings are all very challenging to navigate yeah yeah okay I'll save my comments for later those are all my questions thank you yeah feedback to Smart they're challenging please do something different um so questions um can you put up the option one option to just so I can see I don't even know which one I'm talking about right now because I don't know where those are uh so I'm I would lean towards what I'm looking at right now um and on the other one would you would we be looking at like is that like yellow you know baller looking thing is that a green Ballard or is that concrete we can uh there might be some flexibility to to do a different form of protection here if we were to go with option two we could we could look at some other okay forms of separation and then can you go back to the other one um is there a way on the the planting strip I'm leaning towards this one but on this one is there a way that the planting strip could actually be like some sort of like water catchment or something like that too so that it's not just channeling water off but it's actually catching it I believe so um could double check on that but I believe so okay and then would there be any trees over on that side of the street too and if so would they be in the planting the 4 foot planting strip or over to the right of the 12T multiuse Trail so I'm I I'm not
sure if we have any in the planting strip this is all tree placement on this project has all been driven by fire for their access requirements uh for a ladder truck um because the buildings exceed a certain height that that triggers there some some access requirements I um and know we are we are working hard to maximize the tree opportunities um I know there are some on the on the project side of this of the so on to the right of the multiuse trail okay um not sure if we have any here but there there may be I that's an ongoing conversation okay yeah um and then on the original drawing that was included with the staff report sorry to make you jump around here um oops so I was just looking at the the Meridian uh we uh web page on the city's website um do you know where the bus Stop's going to be it's is it still going to be up towards yeah somewhere around here yeah good um and then uh proposed on Street directional bike Lanes can you just like I'm not familiar with that term is it class class well in they're class fours for us now with the green with the green Ballers um yeah and then signalized um what kind of signal are you thinking is it just like the push it and it blinks blinks blinks the this is a full signal uh down here at the um for the new what's considered to be this the smart Trail Crossing um and this oh I wish I had Jeff here I believe this might also be a signal but at a minimum like red light green light yellow light signal yes yeah full traffic signal oh cool
okay um this you know given the design at payan this this could be something else I'll double check on that but um it's at the at a minimum it would be a an r a flashing Beacon but but I have a feeling it's a full signal as well good I would encourage the full signal um so my feedback is I I think the 12T multi-use path is probably the the better option and I would want that on Corona Road as well um I share the chair's concerns about sending bicyclists up to um to the roundabout there I'm just thinking like a kid riding their bike to school on Corona Road from this affordable housing development and just like thinking would you have your kid ride your bike ride their bike on Corona Road up to Corona Creek Elementary I think that's really the like that's the um the bar that I think we want to set with this project um and wherever we can um because it is I I wouldn't let my kid ride their bike from there to Crono Creek Elementary and it's you know just a ston throw away so um anything we can do to to address that um and and then I think also because of the complexities that we're dealing with here if we're if we are you know recommending kids to go into Brody Ranch and then pop out in the neighborhood and pop across the street like obviously way finding is going to be really important for for that whole shebang too I know we're just talking about the street fundes here but um it's a really exciting project and it's also a really challenging project as you know so um think of
the children it would have been nice to to know where uh the connections would be from the new danco project and also kind of the layout of you know like the parking lot um but generally speaking um I'm inclined a little bit more towards option one uh and it and question I have is with respect to option two uh with the 6ot uh bike lane so the ex the idea would be you'd have um cyclist passing each other you know in opposite directions in that area so if you have cyclists going in opposite directions they're both using that space or they're on the other side of the street and that's your expectation no yes so the expectation in this option is that that uh because of the width that's that's Bas it's only intended for Northbound bikes um and and then anyone biking southbound the expectation is that they would be riding on the other side of norn D yeah I wonder if that would really happen I I guess um based on use uh and people um you know getting getting on uh this area from the new affordable housing or from Smart um and uh can you say a little bit more about what kind of um on pavement signage there would be if we went in the direction of the 12T multi-use Trail to help people understand you know shared uses and uh speed and these kinds of things so um I was surprised it actually didn't come up in Ken's Lynch Creek Trail presentation but uh the general striping for multiuse Trails includes a white Edge line on both sides to define the the edge of the of the trail and then uh a
dashed um uh yellow Center Line uh so if you go to Maren County most of their multiuse trails are striped this way um it's some yeah like I said we'll we'll be doing that on the Lynch Creek Trail and and the the goal just you know whether you're walking or biking you know you know to stay on the right side of the of the dashed yellow line and and you also know that you can pass uh into the other lane um as necessary to pass other slower moving users so the idea would be then that a cyclist wouldn't need to um pass a pedestrian in the 12T section they would have the full use of that portion that's striped on their side correct yeah yes okay those those are my questions thank you any other questions yeah yeah I mean after um you know taking another uh thinking about this more and and and further understanding that there's a need for two-way traffic on that I would probably um also um opt for option one I would think though that um the comment that you made about the transition from the multi-use trail back onto the main um bike lane uh would be really important um so you know that I think there you know just needs to be some thought and that needs to be a you know um a cohesive transition and that's that's it thank you with that we'll open public comment the public is invited to make comments on this item public comments are limited to 3 minutes per person if you haven't done so already please fill out a speaker card and bring it to the clerk clerk have you received any
comments prior to the meeting yes there was one comment received thank you and I have a comment card from Paul Russell thank you as a resident in in the area I'm very excited I like to bite commute along Corona and I also uh ride out there with three young children so I'm very excited to see these changes um I definitely want to endorse option number one for the street sides that are connected to the project both on mcdal and Corona I do think Pamela's Point regarding traffic there will be two-way traffic on that path at least till you get back to the connector that's going to take you uh towards down downtown um I think looking on the other side of Corona going from Soma Mountain towards north McDow I would almost be in favor there of the proposed the uh the one-way traffic like you have currently on mcdal um just to sort of keep that traffic moving there's a lot of traffic that goes along Corona and then out towards the west side and Beyond um so really the class one on the project side but a different treatment on the other side I'm very concerned about the railroad crossings so again a lot of emphasis really hope smart gets that right because that is definitely the most dangerous choke point of any writing I do with my kids in the city currently um that's just a really tough place to cross over right now so for the whole city I think that's my my biggest fear Point whenever I'm on a bike so I really want to see that address in the project and then the last point is just
keeping in mind that this station could bring increased pedestrian traffic towards the breweries uh so we do have a destination short way down the street there so really thinking about The Pedestrian flow potentially from the station uh going north on McDow that might be something that we don't think about much but also there's the whole commercial District so if the employer are lucky maybe their staff will be there so really want to think about those pedestrian connections going north into the commercial area in addition to what's happening in the residential and the last piece is thinking about um the pathway that's going along the tracks um there's also in addition to going through it I think it's biry Ranch you also have a pathway along Corona Creek uh that my kids and I use a lot and so I want to make sure that that connection still ties into here and when it comes to way finding the bir Ranch residents might appreciate the wayfinders actually encouraging the corona Creek pathway because that's a real nice path then to get back towards Sona mountain and another areas so I don't want to lose track of that path which is obscured by the trees here you can't see it but it's there and it's a nice pathway thank you thank you great comments um okay I don't have any other comment cards for this item so we will close it and bring it back to the committee for further discussion M please yes so I'm a little more inclined towards option one and um part of my reasoning there is I
think that there are going to be people who are going to be using the a 12-ft path to go southbound even though they're on the side of the street where the traffic is going northbound because I think for some of these other reasons like um you know making their way down to the brewery that's on that side of the street um the reason the 12 foot is uh seems more appealing to me is there's a little more flexibility in use I mean um you can have people overtaking other people whether they're walking faster or pushing a stroller slower Etc and there could be um ped traffic going two ways there uh in spite of what what what what we might intend um so I'm a little more inclined towards towards that I like the 4-foot uh planter that's separate um and uh and I think that's a nice distinction in that area um so I I think despite there being other opportunities to you know keep cyclists on the path to go southbound Etc I think I think we might find that um you're going to have a number of user groups Northbound and Southbound on the on the 12-ft path and that may not function very well with the other separation uh and to the extent we can put something on the pavement that uh encourages people to keep their speeds down especially coming up to the railroad crossing and these kinds of things and for some of the other reasons that were mentioned when um different types of bicycles are likely going to be making difficult Maneuvers I think that'd be very helpful that's all I have you uh
everything that Pamela just said really resonates with me as uh the public commenter thank you for those comments too it really helps to have people who know the area communting in um I wish Stacy Earl was here but I'm going to say it for to take back to the parks um there's a small little a city-owned piece of property that AB buts this and I just think it's ripe for opportunity to um create some sort of a pull for bringing people to the train um there was a time when I thought the the new SK skate park could go there and we could have people riding smart to ride this uh skate park um you know a basketball court I don't know B ton court but some way to activate that and get more people um walking and biking to that as a destination um so I'm just going to keep standing on my soap box for that little piece of um property thanks thank you love that idea Kelly okay um comments so yeah I'll I'll rate in comment form um if the city can share with smart an emphasis on thinking through those angular turns maybe some yield signage if a certain direction should be yielding but really thinking through so we don't have conflict points um and then thinking about some other solutions that will slow bikes down but not inhibit their movement like the bars that we talked about um and then just two questions you to do mentioned a timeline for the City's piece of this and then um and it's probably in the staff report so I apologize and then will there be lighting along Corona Road or is that
part of the like pedestrian scale lighting if that is I'm not sure what the street lighting looks like there uh so for any Frontage improvements of this uh scale generally yeah we we do try to um to uh underground utilities and provide uh Street lighting um especially when there's um especially you know aligned with these with these development projects so um I can I can double check on those for you but I believe so that that would be included uh I actually do not know of the of the timing so we'll also report back on that um I think I accidentally inserted all my comments and my questions so I'm going to stick with option one and Echo everyone else's comments um including um I believe Robin Graham that wrote in I I appreciated the comments regarding the challenges with the smart Crossing onto their their Pathways in the in the railway thank you and to Adam please great thanks um bjn I just emailed you something I'm wondering if you could just bring up image um I was actually thinking yeah I'm kind of joining in realiz realizing also that having more protection for a multi-use trail option one really makes a lot of sense given the truck traffic um I would propose maybe going just a little bit further especially for the frontage um on North McDow uh uh and thinking about just the flow of people coming out of the Smart Station um and how that kind of creates a te a little bit that flow coming out and then they hit North McDow and can go left and can go right uh and there's I
don't think there's enough space but what I was trying to think about was like having um something that's almost just ditching the the landscape planting basically basically for that section and just really maximizing the space for people to move I think there's going to be opportunities for landscaping everywhere but this section in particular just seems like you really have to fit as many people in there as possible this was something an example that came out of Boulder there was like tall curbs so kind of half the size a regular kind of Highway barrier might be or something but it just struck me as a cool example and I don't even know if it's legal in California but as a way to still feel protected um just another option for us to maybe consider um again not knowing the legal ramifications but in this application just thinking how that could be a nice trying to incorporate public art too you can only do so much with ballards to paint them um so this gives a sense of that continuity that you can maybe still provide a little extra level of protection too so yeah just to yeah proposal to say expand that front part get rid of the landscaping and just try to think of something creative to be able to separate tra traffic because I don't think you can create I was thinking like a two-way cycle track but I don't think there's enough space for that you need way more than that so just really maximizing that multi-use pathway space and that was sorry please uh can you can you say
again where you were yeah this was that section um in between um Corona Road and then the The Crossing for um yeah so kind of on the uh east side of North McDow um south of Corona Road north of the the train station and again this is all kind of tricky to figure out because we don't have the the site plans to know where those flows are going to be but conceptually that makes sense there's you know to simplify there'd be people coming out from there so giving people the most space to move around that's all thank you Franklin Marsha yeah thanks Adam I think that's an excellent idea um I am for option one chiefly because it provides greater safety for bikes and Peds and particularly for kids and for seniors who live in um the trailer uh accommodations across across North Dow um I love the idea I mean I very much like the idea and understand the idea of using uh foliage and Greenery as the 4 foot border um but it appeals to me if we could the idea that we would have 16 feet to work with um that's that's more what we need I think out there just um as Adam mentioned you've got people coming off the train hopefully there are lots of folks with bicycles um which who are going to use our Pathways one in one place or another we've got people who are coming in to pick up the train um we can use all the space we can generate I would love to see that so option option one um but without the foliage strip okay thank you are there any other comments from the committee nope okay moving on to
number four drum roll review and provide feedback on the draft active Transportation project maps and Bjorn I believe you are presenting this yes so thank you let me just uh sorry toggle around here um admittedly I do not know how this is going to go so we're going to try it though um uh we had we had uh obviously all of you at the at the open house uh uh a while back and thank you again for helping us collect feedback on uh on the draft active Transportation plan Maps um so I did want to uh provide an opportunity for the committee to discuss the maps as a whole um you can be as specific as you'd like with any uh changes you would like to see to the maps um I'll bring them up on the screen here and move around and add sticky notes so we'll kind of do it through a virtual format but I do also want to emphasize that um I would also a couple of you have already sent in some written comments thank you for those um those are very helpful and uh likewise for the public on our active Transportation plan web page we have a comment form and as well as my email address which you can just send send comments to directly so I have gotten a handful of emails from uh community members with very detailed feedback um so just looking for more of the same tonight um and again no pressure If don't feel like this is the the last chance to um add comments I just wanted to provide another opportunity to do this and um uh so that we can get as many uh comments as possible in our next round of of map
Provisions um so with that I will um I'm happy to pull the map up and um and we can I've got all I've got three different Maps uh that we can look at we've got the the proposed bike Network um we've got the proposed we've got the sidewalk gaps and Trail Network and then we've oops I must have skipped one yeah and then just the trail Network so um uh I'm trying to think of what would be I I think we can just kind of treat this as a a workshop item um we'll start with the committee we can move around the map I'll toggle around add add comments if you came prepared with any tonight um or we can uh and once you're through we can we can uh do the same with the public uh but again please send me written comments uh don't feel like you we need to cover everything tonight if uh if you still haven't had an opportunity to um do a detailed review I'll I'll also say we've got I've gotten a lot of questions and comments around the bike way types that are shown here uh with question you know if I'm seeing an on street bike lane does that mean it's a class two or a class 4 and and the goal with this map was to keep it as simple as possible and um and uh and basically we would go through that exercise of determining class two versus class 4 uh with project implementation so um we have always envisioned including a statement with this with this plan that the city will strive to provide all ages and abilities bikeways um obviously that's uh so that's our our our goal whenever we are
implementing a new Bikeway project or upgrading an existing bike way is to to make sure it it uh meets the the nacto all ages abilities design criteria which is uh which was attached in the OR Linked In the staff report um so just to try to simp simplify the map here and avoid that um you know going down uh looking drilling down on the crosssections of every single uh Street in Petaluma and figuring out whether a class 4 is feasible whether it requires parking removal just trying to not not do that here tonight but um uh I am we are also happy you know we've gotten a lot of comments about where people think protected bike lanes are needed and and generally I think we have a pretty good sense of the of the criteria that that people are um applying when they when they provide those comments um and it's it's very it's consistent with what nacto outlines the busier a street is the greater the need for physical protection and separation so I just wanted to to kind of highlight that um before we um before we started here um can I so should we open public comment and then have a disc discussion or I should move to questions right now I think we can we can try yeah if let's start with questions from the committee and then um and then we can go public comment and then yeah yeah okay um Mara I'll start with you do you have questions first off um I have lots of comments not lots I have several comments regarding each map but it's more more did we think this through it's really not a
neighborhood Greenway it's this kind of roadway um that kind of thing so I don't think that's appropriate here I don't know yeah I think we can do that during discussion okay thank you it is only [Laughter] 7:58 Franklin um so one question this this gets uh in in uh a little bit detail but I'm wondering if you can so I'm I'm thinking I'm looking at um sort of this um the area that's on Lakeville uh I'll try to describe it so if you can go to the intersection of Lakeville and U McDow um right there so just to the right of that you see so so where that is you know that's a a bridge that goes over a creek and that's a the trail that you see coming into that um you know that's a trail that goes you know along that Creek um is there anything planned there and what is that yeah so that these black dots represent some form of Crossing or intersection Improvement and that has been a frequent frequent request through the social pinpoint map and several comments at the at the open house uh for some sort of adobe Creek Trail Crossing at that location uh to facilitate the um because yeah you have Trails on both sides of the street it follows the creek it leads right into scholen bger Park it's a very it's a logical connection um whether that would be at grade and you know it would require some sort of new either a new signal or a what's called a um a pedestrian hybrid Beacon um it definitely needs something robust if it is at if it is across Lakeville we could look at the feasibility of
going underne under Lakeville uh similar to what we're looking at with the Lynch Creek Trail Crossing of North McDow I just having kind of eyeballed it doesn't look feasible but something something that we need to explore either way um and uh we'll obviously that's a calr road so we'll have to engage calr but yeah that's a that's been a very popular request yeah so I think you know just being really familiar with that area I think adding lights um on Lakeville there would be tough given the fact that um you know just a few you know just a few feet you know there's a you know you've got lights on both sides of it um uh you know being familiar with that area you may want to go if you haven't seen it you may want to look at it I think there may be the potential to go under that bridge so um and it I don't think it would be a big lift to build you know that trail to go down underneath it um uh aside from that any other comments that I have I was just curious what you were you know what what the thinking was there um but I'll I'll send any other comments or questions that I have by and yeah no it's a good it's a good question I'm glad you asked it one of the things we did do is we added uh we called out um Trail Crossing improvements pretty much anywhere where a trail crosses a um uh where a trail crosses a major roadway and I'm even seeing a couple like there's the Eli Boulevard Trail Crossing for Washington Creek Trail that's one that definitely needs to be um uh I'm just going
to add it right now it's a note um because I'm just catching that that yeah our our goal is to provide seamless connectivity with all the Trails um and make sure that when you hit a major arterial Road you're not you don't know you know you we want those those connections be seamless yeah Adam uh no questions no questions for me either Kelly um just a Yeah question clarification so if on the envisioned uh bike Network map the first one um for example pedal a Boulevard is a Class 2 at the moment and there's not going to be any Del delineation on this map to say that is willfully inadequate on pedalin Boulevard North I'm I'm referring to um but so this would work in tandem with some kind of reference to a nacto standard that it should be more than that yes yeah and we will we will also be uh when we're so right now we're just kind of doing this mapping exercise to identify all of the uh improvements that are needed and and that we will be looking at um facilities like you know ped Boulevard North is considered an existing bike bike facility because it's an existing class two but we know that a street of that volume and speed should be a class 4 so that'll be that would be identified as a project and then kind of put in the uh in the hopper for prioritization um and and we'll apply all the criteria to um so yeah that that's a separate exercise for now we're just again trying to keep the map as simple as possible to um uh identify the bike the in the bike Network at the basis for
the network and then we'll go through that exercise and I think there just might be a very small typo on the sidewalk app one um the third map it says on on one side of the street so there's just a repeat word very minor just s on the on the third um the sidewalk app map and then say sidewalk up yeah there you go thank you can I I do have a question now um based on this Envision trail maps so there there are are are there priority projects prioritized projects currently are I know like funding comes up and that changes but do we have like a list of prioritized projects the the existing priority Pro prioritization is is done by city council through the adoption of the of the of the annual uh CIP Capital Improvement uh project budget so that's so any projects that are currently in there have kind of been identified as a priority in some form by the community and and city council uh the active Transportation plan will have its own prioritization criteria applied which um faen Piers has presented on a couple of times to kind of get feedback on what the that criteria looks like right um or what criteria we apply so the the plan this plan will generate its own priority project list and and then you know us as staff and city council will have the benefit benefit uh of that list to inform future budgets and and figure out where we're um prior which projects we're prioritizing from the active Transportation plan but if we're going off of yeah going off of the existing bicycle and
pedestrian master plan we don't know we really don't have so after this plan is approved and adopted by Council then there will be priority within their budget well they would still that's still subject to their uh that's they have that discretion every year when they adopt the budget to uh they ultimately decide what goes in it so this will be a resource for them and for us as staff yeah I'll probably ask you this question in a couple more months I'll probably okay want to know thank you sorry okay Brian just a couple questions um I mean some of the most controversial streets right now are essentially undecided so can you say what the processes for or like what you'd like us to offer in terms of facility type to be determined pending Corridor study um some of those are like where I might have my strongest opinions yeah so great question right now we have that on we have one on Corona Road we've got um the narrower stretch of payan uh we've got BEDA we've got Washington narrow the narrow stretch of Lakeville and then we've got um Mountain View so yeah really all of those you know there was a very high level kind of just um feasibility uh analysis not I I don't even want to call it an analysis is basically myself and and Jeff rubendall um with our knowledge of the the constrained widths of each of those roadways saying we really don't know you know how how we would get a uh a bike facility in here without some major changes to the roadway configuration so it's probably
something that warrants a stud but that's certainly open to feedback and uh from the from pack and the and the general public you know we've gotten a lot of comments about uh East Washington Street um and yeah it is helpful to know I think where people would like to see us uh you know with of those studies is a priority do you agree that a study is necessary what you know just tell us what you think and we will try to make sense of it uh second question um it's not easy to tell um what if if Hopper street is included and I know this body the council is raised this but um I don't see Hopper Street on there is it on there I guess and if not can so this this line sorry um yeah this this is Hopper Street uh right here along the tracks and um we are envisioning some sort of class one facility along there um whether it would require where whether it could be done on City rideway private rideway smart ride of way that's all subject to you know each each of these projects is going to be subject obviously to some level of design and and and engineering and um all sorts of other approvals so what we are going to do is we are going to pull out any project that would potentially involve uh another agency um especially smart and and kind of sit down with them and walk through each of these and understand their concerns and um and and we're going to be for each of the projects noting any uh giving a a feasibility rating um so anything that seems potentially challenging or maybe requiring
ride of-way acquisition obviously would be would receive a lower feasibility rating than something where we've got a really wide Street and we know all it would take is to narrow travel lanes and we've got a new bike way so um yeah that that that will go into it great those are all my questions okay are there any other clarifying question questions okay then we will open this for public comment the public is invited to make comments on this item public comments are limited to 3 minutes per person if you haven't done so already please fill out a speaker card and bring it to the clerk thank you and clerk um did you receive public comments posted online prior to this meeting there was one public comment received thank you and my first comment card is from David Felix hello uh just a few kind of questions and I'm I'm sorry if this isn't kind of backtracking I wasn't at the uh the public meeting so just trying to come up to speed here but um we just talked about it so I was uh just kind of fresh in my mind here there's nothing identified between uh the new smart uh project you were just talking about at Corona and McDow up to Eli Road and that seemed like it might be a kind of a missing piece it's a half mile it looks like um and there's Elementary and Junior High School up there uh so also a narrow dangerous road so would like to see you guys add that one to the list somehow um I guess I'm finding the delineation between the the orange and the light green lines kind of confusing
when you've uh presented things in the past you've talked about all ages and abilities and uh having like protected and like the fact that the light grain is painted on pavement with or without buffers seems like a kind of an important distinction it would be helpful to know like are they safe for all agent abilities or not so like kind of where you're drawing that distinction I think is maybe a little confusing or um hard to tell like is it going to be a um all ages and abilities Road or not um also just kind of some of the roads in here I guess it's a little surprising or confusing like I Street um is identified as orange as a small residential street for bikes and vehicles to share the road I guess I was surprised to see that so it's it just it's hard to kind of tie all the pieces together I'm looking at uh the second map and it looks kind of barren uh to get from you know one so I'm like trying to think like Invision like taking what's on slide one and figure out like how do you like connect all these straggling like Trails together uh which I think is kind of the goal uh so it's a little hard to make the mental leap from slide one to slide two and try to figure out like are some of these light green ones going to be all AG in ability is or not um so I just I don't know if there's a way of making that more clear and uh I'll stand on my Soap Box again if I can uh just to remind you all about the 2030 Vision zero and and climate goals and uh just to try to keep that in mind
for everybody that if if yall are serious about doing that it's uh we're almost in 2024 here um and to try to make sure that as many of these um roads as you can make all ages and abilities accessible as possible is important uh if kids can't ride on the road safely then parents can't get out of their cars and that's kind of what we're all trying to do especially with ebikes and all the other options I just got an ebike A few days ago and ready to get rid of our second car that's a great way to get around town if if only uh we didn't have to worry about getting run over so um thank you all very much I think it's great really glad you're all doing it just keep up the good work and let's try to make it so we don't have to be in our cars all the time thank you thank you very much and Pete thank you I just want to say uh very briefly um echoing what Dave just said again reading through the the greenhouse gas reduction blueprint it talks about uh if we are to come close to meeting our 2030 carbon neutrality goal as a city we will need to get uh mode shift on the order of 50 60 70% getting people out of their single occupant vehicles uh on public transit and um active Transportation it seems to me in order for that to happen we need to have a complete and Integrated Network of for other forms of mobility and what I'm seeing here looks to me like a step in the right direction but there are lots and lots of gaps and a Mobility network is only as as functional as its weakest link and
um to to in my viewing we need to tighten up the the the gaps and make it a complete Network thank you thank you Pete I don't have any other comment cards that closes public comment on this item and brings it back to the committee for discussion and I will start with Mara please okay looking at um I guess it's now time for this kind of thing um looking at the trail Network map which is map on the second page um I was just out on gosage walking with a friend and before I looked at this map and I looked at the map just to kind of track where where my friend and I had walked and I was quite surprised to see um the fact that gosage is is listed as a trail and gosage is anything but a trail it's um a class two the way I look at it but it certainly isn't a trail um private ownership on both sides of that roadway might make it very difficult to buy the buy the uh land that you need in order to build a trail so I was that was one thing I noted um looking on map number three sorry maybe I can just respond or address your comments individually so uh that this connection you see here it was envisioned actually in the the 2008 bicycle and pedestrian master plan as part of the the rim trail system right and that's uh so that that's not an existing Trail it was a it's a it's a vis um and and it will obviously happen in a a peac meal fashion I think over time if at all uh or maybe some some sections do come to exist but um yeah so that just kind of skirts the whole uh western boundary of
the city that's why you see that that we carried over all of the projects from the 2008 plan so no I I recognize that it's just the way what you're asking us to do tonight is yes yeah what do we what do we do what do we say um like Mr Felix I also recognize that the um since this is a trail Network we need to update the area that we just talked about the area between um between what North McDow and Corona and the new subdivision that's going in along with the Smart Train that whole area needs to be updated I don't think we had that listed as a trail on in any fashion yes you right along the front edges yeah yes yeah and then looking at uh let's see on the sidewalk gaps and envision Trail Network let's see oh we just talked about that one um there are a few areas in here that suggest there is no sidewalk and I beg to differ that there is a semblance of sidewalk um but that's something I could list out for you and send it to you rather than going through it taking the time of the committee that' be helpful yep and the same thing would go for sidewalks that or for the map reading that that says um there's no sidewalk at all on either side when there is so that I can include as well uh let's see what else and again everything else on that map is basically about existing sidewalks that I either think are there or I think are not there so that's really all I have at this moment thank you thank you Mara Franklin yeah just one um sort of General comment on um along Eli Boulevard So
and I've you know I've made this comment too on on Lakeville um Lakeville just north of Coffield um you know there's a between between Coffield and um the the train station there's a couple of Crossings on that road on lakevi that are just uh uh there's no lights it's just White Lines painted on the ground cars are driving 45 miles hour and if anyone steps in the street um you know it's um you know it's it's it's a serious issue e much along Eli is the same way um Eli is a wide Road um there's a fair amount of Crossings all along all up and down Eli that really there's no lights or signals or anything along that line so as we you know continue to you know just sort of think about building this out um if the comments haven't sort of drawn your attention to that I I just wanted to make that comment and that's all I have all right um so let's see first comment is actually kind of a cardgraphic comment about the first map um I think the the green protect or the green um bikeways uh uh sorry it's going slow what are they the on street bike Lanes I think part of what's challenging in looking at the map is all of the green Parks also you don't really get to see the green bike ways pop out as much so you might want to just lose or severely transparen size the parks or do something um and I think yeah what what comes to mind for this map is trying to get um The Envision bicycle network is trying to get clarity I think in part of the description which was pointed out you know with or
without be barriers or buffers lends just that um uncertainty around what is kind of that complete protected bike Network that's like that's the map that I essentially want to see um and I know it's a combination of some of the green and some of the blue but it I just my my eye can't catch it but it can focus in on areas and start to see where some of those gaps are um and I think that's maybe just something a mapping exercise or an update or something to be able to actually show where that is and I think what came to mind was from our last pack meeting around the improvements along Maria Drive um and McKenzie as well too I think as they connect um and just thinking about you know going by Safeway and going across 101 how there's that route there that has yeah kind of a mix of Greenway and bike lane and I think what I and yet going down D Street further and I think what I want to be able to see in a map is just know where is that complete Network that is protected um that you can have yeah a three-year-old ride their bike all the way through um and it's just yeah still hard to to Really visualize that but I think that example that I just gave of Maria and McKenzie and D Street further down I think that's just theide idea of being able to do something visually with this map and getting definition also on what's protected or not to be able to say okay where are the gaps to make that you know one single color just showing where that complete Network would be that's I think what
we really have to work towards of just having a Clear Vision of where that will be and then you know addressing those pinch points I agree that need further study um you know I I think that makes a lot of sense even along Petaluma Boulevard um and around downtown that feels like you know seeing those as Greenways and nothing fully protected is gets away from this idea of being able to have um yeah people ride to these major attractions from smart or from their homes their businesses so that's I think just the big high Lev comment um there are I just have a few one Trail comment looking at um Kasa Grande Road and what's not on here is but I think might be a potential attraction is um the uh vallejos Adobe over on Adobe road so thinking is there I know I think that might go out of petaluma's jurisdiction too um but I I love the idea of be able to have someone come to Petaluma on the Smart Station be able to bike around on a complete protected bike Network see all the attractions and never have to clog the streets it's just like that's so within our reach I think um and so yeah Adobe is valo is really cool so throw that on the list in terms of intersection improvements I feel like there's a criteria maybe that we can just look across the map and make some additions um one is around the Smart Station so I know we're talking about Corona but I think uh for the downtown Smart Station D Street and then uh Washington or East Washington I think both needs um a lot of help in trying to
figure out how to facilitate the arrival um and distribution of bikes just kind of when the train comes I'm part of that so it's just kind of a lot of flow and phig fig out how to handle that bike flow with with traffic and I think there's some current things and long-term you know short-term Solutions and some longer term solutions that we can think about for that um and then the other criteria was just all the onoff ramps in those intersections I noticed one was missing on Lakeville Highway on the east side that one's just like there's nothing there you've driven by there tried to walk that um for that on that Northern side along Lakeville Highway um and yeah I think there's that should probably conclude my comments I feel like doing that mapping exercise though feels like can address a lot of the gaps that we're talking about of just knowing where would it make sense to convert one of these green ways to something that's identified as something that's more protective um so yeah I'll stop there thank you Adam um I don't have a lot to add here but I'm I'm looking at the the bus the um like transfer station by the Safeway and I just I think that we could do a better job there like we have on street bike Lanes I'm also thinking about The Pedestrian experience like I do think we give a lot of thought to the movements of bike and pedestrian on the Smart Train coming and going but I'm I'm hoping that we'll have more better bus use and more bus use or micr Mobility it would be
great if we had that um area improved and I'm looking in that area like I'm not sure if this Trail has a name but it's going from Washington Street up to Garfield like um Greenbrier and the Addison Ranch Apartments and then it drops people right onto Washington and it seems like it would be better if it I mean if that's still there I think that's that's fine but to um kind of divert traffic or help people go on Maria towards lucazi and get on the trails or go to McKenzie and take the overpass the walking bridge um there would be helpful rather than just having them land on Washington Street so I I guess that would be a bit of a way finding uh um and those are my yeah those are all my comments thank you Kelly yeah um I'm not sure if this one is technically private property so might need to unless maybe you know uh Bjorn but I'm talking about along the Lynch Creek Trail there is a path that goes behind some Town Homes this is um north of Madison so um on the on the east side oh yeah Madison's over there too um oh yeah yeah up here yeah yeah yeah so between snow mountain and Maria that section of the Lynch Creek Trail right there so on the other side the south side there is a trail that parallels it it goes behind I used to walk it a lot and it goes behind a complex there's no signage that says it's private but might want to verify that if before we put something on but it is a nice little paved path it's really pretty there's a lot of blackberries back there is it sidewalk with
or is it like a is it like a multiuse trail it's it's sidewalk with okay yeah it's probably not show even if it is public it wouldn't show here because we're not marking out every sidewalk um okay okay we were trying to Mark really all you're seeing here are uh trails that are accessible to people walking and biking or that are kind of designated for walking and biking um so if you feel that it's it's got some utility as a multiuse multi-use uh facility I don't think anybody would be biking on it okay we we'll look at it and see if it's yeah okay um I won't be offended if you don't add it um and then I think on the the sidewalk Gap the third one we can remove most of what's highlighted for North McDow since those gaps are closed now you're right so that's exciting you can check something off and my last question is I know we had a public comment on this will the comments and suggestions be incorporated into what you're doing now the comment we had from Robin okay yeah we've got a big folder of all of the comments Ms that we've received so um and it's helpful actually to uh have all of this archived for Grant applications I'm I'm learning so uh yeah I we even kind of looked at um with the social pinpoint at least it was pretty easy to identify which corridors received the most comments and um uh my recollection was that D Street was one of if not our top uh source of comments on the social pinpoint map for bik bike pet improvements um mostly between downtown and and Lakeville
and the Lakeville intersection received a lot of comments on its own so yeah thanks Brian awesome sorry for not sending my comments in sooner um so on Western Avenue um I know there's some Crossing issues there at Fair Street that's not listed um we've talked about um BEDA Avenue Crossings Pega and upam and or park and ba Baker both those are um pretty treacherous um uh Echo the comment about Corona Road um then I don't know where we capture this um but I just want to double down on the undergrounding the utilities on D Street um between Oyster Cove and Lakeville there's like three poles there and just making sure that that gets um in every plan that we possibly have um uh PGA Crossings agree with the public comment about I Street being um probably labeled [Music] wrong um there is a gap on West Street that I think is worth calling out um where it doesn't go down to Petaluma Boulevard um I think that's important because there's no way for people on West Street to it's like kind of a a hill to go from West Street toward downtown so you might want to go down to pedma Boulevard or go down to Keller or something um and you're not going to go to Magnolia if you're going to go to the fairgrounds for example um and so I think we need to continue that West Street one down to pedma Boulevard um yeah so we actually looked at this neighborhood closely because of the hills and the opportunities created by the grid so I'm I'm excited that you brought it up because this is a chance to to
kind of talk through it a little bit so we uh we added the um so we got the Fifth Street neighborhood Greenway comes up here you need some intersection improvements at Washington to get people across um onto Keller Keller is one of the more is a is a pretty gradual uphill up to prospect um and then from that point so if you're envisioning a connection that gets around this really congested area of downtown on at Washington and pedma Boulevard North you would use um Keller turn right on Prospect turn left on Kentucky which is again one of the more gradual Hills and then you've got the new signal at Oak and the new um Trail down at uh at the North River Apartments so that's one way to kind of connect through that area um and then we were envisioning that if people are biking anywhere sort of up to the Cherry Valley area they would use Keller Street um slightly lower lower traffic than Kook a little more um gradual less hilly basically trying to not not force people to bike um on these steep hills up towards Oak Hill um but yeah Point well taken that we we don't have a connection um on this section of West that's a really steep really really Steep Hill though so yeah I'm I'm a little hesitant to like we left out you know Prospect for example we're trying to trying to run people through this do you mean trying to run people through this neighborhood north south as much as possible and and and then use Prospect as the primary kind of east west except for that last block down to
the boulevard um okay that was kind of the the thinking behind this we could Kentucky is pretty gradual Kentucky's a great we could filter people down to this do the same thing here and send people down um yeah I just don't know where that Hill like really it seems like it's steep all the way up to Keller but yeah I I'm not sure I guess my my bigger point is like I I said already there's going to be a lot more people going to the fairgrounds and I just am thinking like when I look at these Maps I think to myself like if I'm riding to go play pickle ball at the fairgrounds like what route am I going to take from different plates places right um so I just think there's uh a lot of different things to think about with that um getting people to the center of the city safely cuz it really has hasn't been a destination to this point like the only reason you'd go there is to go to Target and you're probably driving right but there's going to be new reasons to um you know walk and ride your bike there um the I don't know how you capture the Lakefield the payan uh on D Street um like making it a one-way Street and sort of implementing that Vision but I'd love to see that uh put in there um sorry that was uh the the gap between um on Lakeville it's it's not really a gap that's listed in here but I don't think it's I think it could be a trail I think it could be a oneway um I think D Street from uh Lakeville to payan could be one way oh I see this this section I it could be uh and it
could become a better path and just um stronger connection there and that was uh fun fact about that that was actually envisioned as pedal's First Neighborhood uh bike B Ard um now we're call them neighborhood Greenways but uh yeah so that that was a probably a project that was ahead of its time when it was originally proposed right and with the fairgrounds it's a it's now being a destination I think it might be worth dusting off um and then just in general I think when you think about like uh some of the you know our public commenters touched on it but when we look at like uh Soma mountain right for example these wide roads that are two lanes we in trying to get to carbon neutrality we have to ask ourselves like are we at Peak car right now and if not when are we like people are going to move here they're going to have cars but also people are getting ebikes and ditching cars um and so you know I don't know if there's any sort of like you know policy assumption that you can make that like we're going to be transitioning all of our two-way streets to one way or I mean two lane roads to one way or one lane um you know Washington obviously that's like you're putting a dagger in the heart of car culture you know like if we really want to do something like like more than a connected network of bike Lanes like making Washington a toll road with one lane in each direction is what's going to like get people out of their car in this city like um but I like I just think um some of
these areas lend themselves to like maybe a specific plan or something you know but we're seeing you know like tall buildings going up on pedum Boulevard we're going to continue to see the build out of pedala Boulevard out towards the the old lies and the um the old boat store and things like that those are probably going to become you know like dense housing I would think um and so um making sure that we're thinking about like coming up with a pretty Grand Vision for ped Lima Boulevard um you know Washington if it gets redeveloped if there's pieces of that like um it's really important that we um that our plan really think about what YP of developments going to be going in there and I'm not see like when I just look at the map I don't see like the future land use that we're striving for and that's something that sort of is like missing from this this whole discussion really um and I would say too I think that that conversation will really be driven in the in the general plan and uh and especially yeah the the kind of the land use element of the general plan but also the mobility element which is obviously looking at Transportation as a whole not just bike ped but um you know I've seen I've seen tables uh for the for the general plan that clearly outline which Corridor the corridors where Lane reductions are um uh seem feasible just based on traffic volume um where it would really you could you could Implement a lane reduction and and not see any adverse um congestion impacts
and um it's you know it's it's a lot of the it's it's the cost of Grande the cost Grande's Eli Snow Mountain Parkway it's kind of your gen Rainer it's the you know those C field the bigger um roads more on the east side where the traffic volumes are just much lower than and don't warrant that that many lanes so that I think that will be part more part of the the general plan discussion um something that's that goes goes beyond our our ATP but that we can certainly with this plan you know react to and and try to um uh update this as needed in response to some of those those bigger conversations cool and then final uh final points um Madison and payran payan and Lynch Creek Trail there's some those I think we identified the Lynch Creek Trail intersection there with with uh you know on payran that's that's an issue I'd like to see that flagged um and then um I just I hear a lot with you know this is my district so I've been talking to people and there's a lot of people talking about Madison right now um Madison McKinley all the traffic issues around there so I'm just not seeing the like the number of uh intersection issues or something like that that I'd want to see around um around that school I'll have something to share on that shortly in my next item I can't wait thank you ban P um got a couple of comments um I'd like to see more connections to like the ring rim trail so the one that's being shown on lurman and in the Sunny Slope area I I'd like to see what we expect uh in
terms of connections either on street or through other properties that have yet to been be developed so I mean we're showing it there but um we're not showing how folks can access it uh mid segment so I'm not sure if you've we've thought about uh you know whether there are streets that are just going to get us there or whether we need some more Spurs that should be shown to make it more accessible I made some comments earlier about um like the Wallenberg way and uh Oak Court seemed to me that at some point in time in past bike committee meetings we even conditioned some of those um subdivisions to provide access to trail at the top um and uh maybe that something happened after bike committee looked at it but uh but you know I I think to to show a a a rim trail without showing how people are going to get to it um whether it's something that's going to happen at uh that uh corner of gravila and I or uh some of those places I think I think that helps if someone looks at the map they can say oh yeah we envisioned that that folks would be able to not just walk up I Street to get on it but could go through a different area um also the river trail so um seems to me like we ought to have some trail s suggestions about how uh people would get down to the river trail through for example some of the new subdivisions that we recently saw so um you know in the core we're uh just a couple of meetings ago we were talking about new development in that area so I I don't see connections from
like the smart Trail down through yeah exactly right in there can we represent something in that area to suggest that we're also anticipating that there would be through uh through Trail through um either multiuse or whatever we can come up with um I'd like that to be kind of suggestive um I also kind of feel like we're not really um emphasizing what we want to achieve as boldly as we should similar to what some of the other uh committee members have talked about I kind of feel like we're we're being a little fuzzy between um uh you know where do we really want the protect protected bike ways to be to get people to move around and if we're showing some as as orange and some as green um it almost it almost feels to me like we're we're not being clear enough about what we expect like which is going to get the emphasis where's the money going to go where which roads are really going to be narrowed and this last bit of the conversation about land use I I think that that's it seems like okay what what's going to happen along Petaluma Boulevard what's going to happen on some of our you know more dense corridors where where we are expecting more housing it seems like this needs to take a a in my mind a bolder stance as to what we want to achieve um and I feel it's a little wishy-washy with the way we're representing it and I know these are hard choices um but uh if if this gets adopted like this it just it feels kind of um it's not it's not bold enough to get those climate action
goals rep uh achieved in that period of time and we know how long it took us to go from the last bike pad plan to this so I I think this is the the opportunity uh yeah those are my comments okay yeah I think I've I've heard that um pretty loud and clear from from the committee and the public that you'd like to see the actual Bikeway types called out so um we will do our best to to capture those uh based on on what we know of each of these corridors based on you know traffic volume speed Etc uh call out whatever would be the recommended nacto facility and um yeah that was it's we we can definitely do that so that next next map revision we'll have the Bikeway classes called out yeah are there any other final comments yes um yeah two actually commment in a question uh the comment was about West Street and the hills and it was kind of putting the future goggles on and just thinking about micromobility and electric electric bikes I like I don't have one but I imagine Hills are going to be a lot easier on them so just still thinking about that connectivity especially yeah uh live I live very close to the fairground so just thinking about how that's a center point of potential activity there's a lot of stuff going on right now that's lots of fun too so looking forward to more stuff in the future but drawing those connections is is exciting um and then the other I guess the question would be um is it possible to have this um the shape file shared to kind of do that analysis I was
talking about of like looking at that complete connected Network I think that would for me at least help kind of fill in some of the gaps um in terms of recommendations and stuff along those lines so so yeah yeah since you are a GIS person uh we can send you that okay great thanks and that's all Bjorn um will this come before us again before Council I know you wanted oh yeah yeah yeah so this will the plan as a whole will go in draft form to um to pack Planning Commission we talked about taking it to rmpc um sorry that's the Recreation music and Parks Commission um and then and so kind of do the the committee commission Road Show for review and comments prior to going to council for adoption yes and I think at some point you said you were hoping to get this in front of council early 2024 that it would well it won't go there until it's gone through all these other stages first so yeah yeah uh it's probably it's probably spring yeah mid mid 24 at this point um but we do we we will be our goal is to try to get priority projects out of this for uh an a Grant application for the next cycle of the active Transportation program so um and that call for projects will be out in about spring of 2024 so uh and I think those are due in the summer I'm looking at Adam because he works for fcta um yeah so we the goal is to that that's a a big um I think that's that's a big driver right now um at least to identify priorities even if the plan hasn't been formally adopted by Council it would be
nice to know with some certainty what our priority projects are and then our plan is to submit a whole package of priority projects and hopefully get them all awarded and um and then be able to uh get get the real key gaps uh closed thank you I think I I'm not a GIS person but I love maps and looking at maps and I think we all do and I I just want to appreciate that this has been challenging I think for everyone and you included to figure out how to like make this map and make it succinct and digestible and include as much information as we're trying to do and there there is just no perfect way to do that and and it has been it's been hard and I um want to appreciate your comment Pete that the plan is only as strong as its weakest link I think I like to be an optimist but that's a really important and pragmatic way to move forward from from here and yeah I just appreciate all the work that has been done on this um and I look forward to your your analysis so we will move to committee comment now during committee comment members are invited to briefly share updates relevant to this committee including liaison reports from other City bodies and make requests for future agenda items dialogue between members should be limited to clarifying questions and answers there will be no public comment on this item um and I will start with Mara so this is committee comment right okay um yeah I have one comment to make I'm I've been attending the uh um um I've been attending meetings in
Santa Rosa where we have been talking about um a lot of the things that we talk about here and I was um pleasantly surprised at our last meeting um that one of the gals presented the fact that Bike Share is coming back that was that you all remember that I think we've been our ad hoc committee was um finally disbanded Ed because we were waiting forever for uh this Bike Share program but it sounds like the Bike Share program right now they are finishing up um the contract and they are looking at a 2-year pilot program with again 300 bikes which hasn't changed that part hasn't changed since uh the first iteration of this and um maybe it's time where we need to take a look at what we want petaluma's Bike Share to look like and maybe we need to form reform the ad hoc committee with the transit um or what have you but I I think um Adam am I wrong they were talking about uh this might be up and going by the end of the summer 2024 yeah I think that's correct so um we've got to get our eggs in order and get back to what I whatever we had before this the Hiatus happened so anyway that's what I'm reporting thank you Franklin Adam yes let's see so yeah exciting that Bike Share is coming that's right marget it's ideally looking at um the summertime uh I think there's disc discussions right now around kind of branding um the name is out there kind of getting tossed around and it's a negotiation kind of between Marin and somoma but I think people saw that list kind of Redwood rides North
Bay bikes something along those lines feels like it's going to be probably speaking ahead of myself but something that yeah should be cool and hopefully give us an identity you know for where we're um where we live um so that's that's exciting um and yeah I think I'll conclude my comments with that um this is slightly unrelated but I um I'll just share that um essentially my kids and I have started a little um public I don't know curiosity project that we've called familiar strangers and we um have a little heart on the back of our cargo bike and we do a popup coffee stand and we've been going around to different neighborhoods and I bring the ATP maps and we just sort of talk to people about their experience and um like what would it be like to have a food truck here or a coffee shop and some people really like it some people say like good luck with your business Miss and don't really um understand but we have fun my kids have experienced a lot of different parks and it's just been um an interesting experiment and I would be interested in um just using familiar strangers to facilitate any conversations within City projects and and Etc it's just it's been fun and um a good learning experience and way to connect with people but that's all I have to add thank you Kelly I love I love that and it sounds like a podcast title um very very briefly is there a plan for our ATP ad hoc to meet again yeah okay yes I'll look for an email on that and then um a request there are a lot of
inconvenient ballards along the Crona Creek Trail is it possible we could put in a work order to get some of those taken out okay definitely y perfect that's it thanks um Council has not met many times recently um but I do have some things to report out on um the overlay which has been kind of controversial and in the social media news recently is uh was pulled um the applicant pulled it and continued it to um some future date I'm not sure when um we had a nice celebration uh for the smart uh new Smart Station groundbreaking got to hold my first golden shovel it was pretty cool um uh there was a no before you grow event with uh a group called not just bikes and um uh like one of the leading uh Urban economists named Joe MOSI talking about the economics of sprawl versus infill development um if if you all are interested in in urban economics the way that I am I would encourage you to to check out the check out that um uh the lighted boat parade is this Saturday so Walker Roll On Down um I'd be interested in a scooter share at some point um I saw an image I haven't experienced it yet but I saw an image of an elevated crosswalk going onto a freeway on-ramp up in Windsor I thought that was pretty interesting and just sort of a way to like force drivers to slow the hell down and um you know really kind of yield I thought that was an interesting thing to share and then my final oh and then you're going to talk about it in your next thing but on the mcken I'm really excited to see
the the stuff taken off of the Mackenzie at the bottom of the ramp I'm just wondering if there's like some like simple ramp that we can make going off there or maybe I can just go make it myself or something I don't know it doesn't seem that hard but um it would be nice to not have to hit the bottom of that thing and then turn right immediately um and then the final thing um I've mentioned the fairgrounds a bunch and that's because uh all of the tenant leases are now extended for 3 years um we're going to be like like um exing the or hopefully finalizing the agreement with the fourth district a Association to keep putting on uh the fairgrounds for or the fair for another three years at least um and so all of that is um basically all the things we said we were going to do on the fairgrounds are um like we've reached a milestone and we'll be getting the keys to the the property on January 1st um and as part of that there's been all kinds of talk about what kinds of things can we do there so um ideas welcome here's a few that I know are um percolating um there's a group that is working to bring a BMX track to the infield of the pedma speedway so that would turn um a use that's used 25 or 30 nights a year into something that's used 250 days a year um and bringing youth to the center of our city and obviously driving demand for safe rout to the fairgrounds um so something I'm pretty excited about and I have been personally involved in that one um there is uh multiple different
conversations moving in parallel about doing uh like four seasons pickle ball popup in the expo hall that's never used um we'll be getting it back in January it'll probably be raining and there's an opportunity to just get people in there um and using the place um some more futur looking ones that I thought were pretty interesting a climbing wall on the back of the uh Speedway bleachers um but just I think like there's a ton of really exciting opportunities where we don't have to lose a damn thing but we can like really activate that space um it's like having a big giant ball of clay and um I think for the bike pad nerds in the city um thinking about how to get there and thinking about all the things we can do to activate it it just is um really an exciting opportunity so that's it thank you and it's slow the fast down Brian not slow the hell Pamela um uh something like six weeks ago was down in La when they closed the aroyo Seiko Parkway it was like seven or eight miles long um and it was incredible they had running races you had every form of rolling Transportation there were so many people out there were food trucks there the city had a presence and it just it it's like the cyclovia on steroids I mean it was just people were so excited lots of families came down and so just gives me this idea that what what if we closed um you know uh you know Cinema Mountain Parkway or in Eli or something like that and just encouraged everyone to come out for some limited period of time I
think that this was closed for maybe five or 6 hours or something like that so they could have real running races and and everyone enjoy themselves but it was um it was so energizing to see everybody doing their own thing at very different Paces but everyone having a great time uh so I just wanted to mention and I realize there's a lot more people down there and there's a lot more uh opportunities for people to get around when you close something but uh it's just an interesting idea about you know whatever East Washington or you know something that would let people have a different experience of a corridor like that so I just wanted to share that that was fun thank you um next is Staff com one quick thing I forgot to mention also um was a request I guess I don't think it's been mentioned but for a presentation um one that uh John trips Peak gang and myself have been putting together on micromobility um so I've given that at the satb recently so it's primed and ready to go so just a lot of helpful relevant data from the micromobility USA conference kind of notes Impressions technology Poss policy implications that I think kind of can help us help inform the ATP quite a bit so definitely in terms of timeliness I think it makes sense to kind of push that to the top over like the Petaluma River Parkway or something like that so just wanted to mention that sounds good thanks yeah I've got you I've got that in in my list uh from the last slide here uh but good to know that it's
already ready to go and and good points about the time the timeliness um all right so I will run through the updates um so as council member Barnacle highlighted um our crews recently got out and cleaned out that entrance to the uh Corona or to the sorry the corona the Mackenzie overcrossing and yes it still does uh need uh a ramp um so so we will hopefully try to figure that out um obviously anytime you start doing concrete work it's a little little bit dicey but um we are aware of that need and our Safe Streets nomination program is um my my inbox is on fire right now I think we get two of those every hour at least feels like um so that's our our program where we are asking residents to uh call out areas where they'd like to see traffic calming or other safety improvements and yeah as of as of December 1st we had received uh an average of seven and a half nominations per day uh 369 it's definitely at 400 now and uh there's a URL where people can go ahead and nominate so we'll we'll be scoring a big batch of project projects uh sometime over the winter we do have to manually get these all in in GIS uh because they're not they're not necessarily tied to any the way the for works it's not they're not tied to location so that'll take a little bit of work um our Communications team uh Jessica's here tonight to represent them they've done a wonderful job with the slow the fast down campaign and you're probably seeing the banners and signs all over the city Jessica I believe
brought some here tonight you can take home with you if you'd like a yard sign and we've also got bumper stickers magnets yeah car magnets car magnets yeah so uh and I know there there are they're planning on uh a lot more activities and and um mediums uh to get the to get the word out so um and I think we we also will invite them back to uh to show off a little bit and uh and also get feed feedback from PB back on what you'd like to see in this campaign Yeah question um definitely support bringing him in for a presentation how many people have taken the pledge so far oh good point uh 400ish 34 okay yeah so and this isob yeah launch yeah so we are uh definitely between the slow the fast down and the Safe Streets nomination program there's a a great um there's definitely demand out there and appetite for uh people to slow down some Grant updates so we submitted uh Mt the Metropolitan Transportation Commission recently put out a request for uh projects where cities would would like technical assistance on uh any sort of planning or design effort related to active transportation we submitted an application for the Lakeville Corridor study which we also submitted to um the US dot for Safe Streets for all and uh received a recommendation for $4,000 for that and then we also uh received confirmation that MTC will provide technical assistance on our active Transportation program uh application next year in 2024 and uh what we outlined for them was a a package of all of the priority
projects like I described that come out of active the active Transportation plan so basically like I said we would we would just bundle together all of the top projects we'll definitely bring that to pack for your review and input and blessing on the the list of projects um and then submit them as a package uh one one one you know a bundle of projects not just one project um and and then we still uh are waiting to hear back on the Safe Streets for all application that was a $3.2 million request for Citywide intersection improvements and then uh about 200,000 for that Lakeville Corridor study so um I believe we're supposed to hear back on that this month is the what we're hearing the uh upcoming events not too many with the holidays but uh we do have reminder every third Thursday of the month we are safe routes to T safe routs to school task force meets our next meeting will be focused on McDow and McKinley I'll talk a little bit more about that shortly we've got the holiday lighted bike ride that Pete uh mentioned on December 22nd and then um our next safe routes meeting January 18th so safe routes School task force really excited that we have that uh off the ground um we have had two meetings so far as well as a um as well as a walk audit so we just uh last week did our walk audit at McDow Elementary um we we are we've developed a schedule to try to reach all public schools within Petaluma by I believe we can get to if we do monthly walk audits we'll we'll have them all done
in um early 2025 um so again one one school a month or or doubling up where it makes sense where schools are really close to each other and the Order of the list we um set based on number of collisions that have occurred near the schools over the last 5 years years so McDow was the uh uh the top ranking School in that unfortunate category uh McKinley is ranked second so our next walk audit takes us to McKinley in uh early January um at our December safe routes meeting we will be debriefing our McDow walk audit and then previewing our McKinley walk audit and that's the approach that we've talked about for all of the meetings moving forward where we'll basically always have two schools that we are talking about um and uh uh and again those agendas are posted to Safe routes stomach County safe routes to schools website um that's a it's a we're we're happy to be a partner in it but safe routes is taking the lead on facilitating those meetings and um and uh and and posting the agendas and and minutes and whatnot our um our sorry excuse me the holiday uh lighted bike ride uh put on by Safe Streets Petaluma and and several other community groups and and businesses is on Friday the 22nd at 5:30 um I know uh there's a route planned flat five Mish Pete uh around West Petaluma all ages friendly start and finish at Aquis and is there a place Pete where people can go for more info or just uh there's a Facebook event Facebook event there we go doesn't have L more okays Signa me the rout i
s that to you okay and because this was included in the staff updates last month which we did not get to but just wanted to quickly highlight that obviously there's also the the countywide active Transportation Plan update going on uh right now several agencies including the unincorporated County which is uh relevant to us here I've looked at their uh social pinpoint map they've got a lot of they've received a lot of comments in Petaluma likewise we received a lot of comments that are out in the county so we will be doing that data exchange to make sure that we're we're talking to each other we're aware of the feedback that that both efforts are getting but uh if you have any comments on improvements you'd like to see especially on the unincorporated roads just outside of the city this would be a great way to to get that feedback in and uh likewise calr District 4 is updating their Bay areawide Bike plan um so again for us uh what's most relevant here is uh the Lakeville Corridor and anything touching uh 101 and uh so they've got a survey and a comment map as well and here's our growing list of upcoming agenda items um I'll highlight some uh just try to highlight some additions here I did just add I added the snow member and Bike Share uh slow the fast down campaign um we've got Adam the Adam's micromobility presentation along with council member shs and Pete I understand and then I know uh Committee Member Bond you've also opport offered to present on your blue zones um
traffic calming demonstration project so yeah lot of lot of items to go through here but um as always feel free to add to the list can uh can the city include the lighted bike parade in an upcoming Community uh Community update their email just knowing that it's only on Facebook it'd be good to blast that out it was it was in the last one okay good all right so that's all I've got oh and I I didn't mention um I wanted to grab some pictures today uh we did just have some some work this week done on Garfield Drive the striping is wrapping up there they've been adding the the painted bulb outs and signage out in the street and uh likewise uh we did some we are or there's a crew doing some painted bulb bouts on Jefferson Street and that was uh at Jefferson and valo um in response to a collision that happened earlier in the year involving a 5-year-old boy who was hit while crossing Jefferson Street at the valo Street intersection so we've got some striping improvements painted bul bouts moving the stop signs out into the street with the bumper blocks kind of doing that yeah um shortening up the the crossing distance and and calling more attention to the to the stop stop signs um we also took that opportunity to short to add a bulb out at the the really awkward uh intersection of Jefferson in payan you've got that big uh there's a really awkward corner there with a that makes it a really really long crosswalk so we've um done the same added a painted bulb out to try to shorten that
Crossing distance and and improve visibility so go check those out Garfield and Jefferson um those are underway this week thank you so much okay with that we adjourn sorry quick NOP quick question sneak it in there um on the bike Plan update does that for Cal Trans is that relevant for the off-ramp intersections too would that be a place to focus those discussions comments yeah Cal generally calr jurisdiction includes anywhere where they're ramps uh interface with a with a city city street or sometimes it's it's a calr inter it's it's a calr intersection so okay cool great thank you anym okay with that we adjourn at 9:15 thank you