Airport Commission

* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] ALL RIGHT. UH, WELCOME [CALL TO ORDER] TO THE, UH, PETAL AIRPORT COMMISSION. THIS IS A REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING. IT IS 6:03 PM ON AUGUST 6TH, 2026, AND I'M GONNA CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. UH, LET'S SEE. UH, COMMISSIONER SASSER PRESENT, AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME OUR NEWEST COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER DREW BULEY, PRESIDENT. WELCOME ABOARD. UH, COMMISSIONER MARGAN HERE. COMMISSIONER PERRY. I'M HERE. COMMISSIONER DOMI. I'M HERE. AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER DI CARLY HERE. AND, UH, COMMISSIONER DIETRICH IS ABSENT TONIGHT. UH, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANY GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT? UH, SEEING NONE, UH, WE [PRESENTATIONS] WILL MOVE ON TO PRESENTATIONS, NON AERONAUTICAL, UH, STORAGE USE. ALRIGHT, SO TONIGHT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE ON NON NON AERONAUTICAL STORAGE USE AT THE AIRPORT. UM, WE ARE GONNA GIVE A SUMMARY TONIGHT OF THE POLICY WE'VE DRAFTED. UM, THE CURRENT VERBIAGE OF THE POLICY IS STILL UNDER REVIEW AT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, BUT WE FEEL CONFIDENT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE A SUMMARY OF THAT POLICY IN THE CURRENT STANDING AND WHAT THE DIRECTION WILL LOOK LIKE FOR THAT. SO, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S SIX MAIN PART PARTS OF THIS, UH, POLICY. SO THE FIRST PART, IT'S APPLICABLE TO ANY INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATION, BUSINESS, PUBLIC AGENCY FOR THE NON AERONAUTICAL STORAGE OF EQUIPMENT. THE RENTAL RATE IS CURRENTLY SET AT 79 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT, WHICH IS OUTLINED IN THE, THE CITY OF PETALS MASTER FEE SCHEDULE FOR THE AIRPORT FOR NON NON AERONAUTICAL STORAGE. ALL NON NON AERONAUTICAL STORAGE APPROVALS ARE TO BE CONSIDERED TEMPORARY TRANSITORY UNDER THE, UH, UNDER AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY. AND SO, UM, IF WE ASK THEM, UH, TO REMOVE IT, IT WILL BE REMOVED. UM, MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP ARE, UH, ALL THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE NON AERONAUTICAL USER AND MUST BE, UH, COMPLY WITH ALL THE PERTINENT LAWS, RULES AND REGULATIONS AT THE AIRPORT. UM, IT RECOGNIZES THE PUBLIC BENEFIT OF GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, UM, AND THE PETMAN MUNICIPAL AIRPORT MAY AUTHORIZE AN EQUITABLE EXCHANGE OF, UH, MAY AUTHORIZE AN EQUITABLE EXCHANGE OF SERVICES IN LIEU OF, UM, IF OF A MONETARY EXCHANGE, UM, IT NEEDS TO BE, AND THAT IT WILL REQUIRE DOCUMENTATION OF THE SERVICE, UH, PROVIDED TO THE AIRPORT. THE ESTIMATED VALUATION OF THE SERVICES AND THE APPROVAL OF THIS CAN BE REVOKED IF THE SERVICES ARE DISCONTINUED OR NO LONGER TO BE DETERMINED OF EQUIVALENT OR GREATER VALUE TO THE AIRPORT. UM, AND THE LAST POINT IS, IS THAT THE AIRPORT MANAGER HAS THE RIGHT TO SUSPEND, MODIFY, OR TERMINATE ANY NON AERONAUTICAL STORAGE AUTHORIZATION, UM, TO ACCOMMODATE AERONAUTICAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, COMPLIANCE WITH THE FAA GRANT ASSURANCES, OR TO SUPPORT, UH, AIRPORT OPERATIONAL NEEDS. UM, SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION, WE'VE ALSO COM UM, COMPROMISED OR COMPILED A LIST OF ALL THE, UH, CURRENT NON, UH, AERONAUTICAL STORAGE USES ON THE AIRPORT, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY TAKE, AND BASED UNDER THE 79 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT, UM, WHAT THE, THE COMMENSURATE, UM, DOLLAR VALUE WE TIED PER MONTH BASED ON THE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT NON OR NAUTICAL USE. UM, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO THE COMMISSION TO PROVIDE ANY FEEDBACK, UM, THAT BASED ON THIS CURRENT SUMMARY AND BASED ON THE CURRENT FIT RATE AND FEE SCHEDULE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, UM, IF THERE'S ANY, UM, CHANGES OR ANY, UH, THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS PART OF THAT, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND, UH, THANK YOU AND GINA AND EVERYBODY WHO HAD A, A PART IN THIS. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO SEE. I THINK THIS DEFINITELY, UM, HELPS COMPLY WITH OUR REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE GRANT ASSURANCES. AT LEAST I IDENTIFYING, UH, THE THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO, UM, START SENDING OUT BILLS FOR EVERYTHING WE CAN. DEFINITELY, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A WIDE RANGE OF THINGS WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE'S AN, AS LONG AS THERE'S AN EQUITABLE TRADE OF SERVICES WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS, UM, ABSOLUTELY FINE WITH THAT. BUT AT LEAST IDENTIFYING EVERYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE AND GETTING IT ON PAPER TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT BALANCES AT THE END OF THE YEAR. THIS IS, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING THE TIME TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. I THINK, UM, IT, IT SATISFIES EVERYTHING THAT I HAD IN MIND. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, COMMISSIONER SASSER. I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, OKAY. THAT'S NON AERONAUTICAL STORAGE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO NON AERONAUTICAL ACTIVITIES SUCH AS POLICE MOTORCYCLE TRAINING, UH, THAT OCCUR AT THE AIRPORT. AND THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, I THINK ON THE, UM, PAY STRUCTURE, WE HAVE SOME FEES FOR, UM, AERONAUTICAL THROUGH THE GATE, AERONAUTICAL USAGE MM-HMM [00:05:01] . BUT, UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT ADDRESSED ALSO, UM, BASED ON MY CURRENT UNDERSTANDING OF THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE, AND I CAN REVIEW THIS LATER AND GET BACK TO YOU, UM, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY, UH, NON AERONAUTICAL ACTIVITIES, UH, LIKE PERMITS THAT ARE AT THE AIRPORT CURRENTLY, BUT, UM, THIS COULD REQUIRE FURTHER REVIEW OR IF WE NEED TO ADD SOMETHING TO THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE, WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO REVIEWING THAT WITH YOU GUYS. YEAH, I THINK SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF A, UM, YOU KNOW, A, A PERMIT FEE, IF IT, IF THERE WERE TO BE SOME SORT OF EVENT, UM, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, A COMMERCIAL EVENT, SAY, FILMING OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER USE OF AIRPORT FACILITIES, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD EXPLORE THAT OR SEE HOW OTHER AIRPORTS DO THAT SO THAT IF WE DO NEED TO ADD SOMETHING TO THE MASTER FEE SCHEDULE, IT'LL GIVE YOU A TOOL, UM, TO POTENTIALLY USE IN THE FUTURE. UM, WE COULD AT LEAST GET ON THAT, THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR COUNCIL. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO. OKAY. UM, YEAH, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT. I THINK THAT CONCLUDES, UM, EVERYTHING UNDER PRESENTATIONS FOR TONIGHT. UM, [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] SO I'LL MOVE ON ONTO, UH, APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR THE, UM, JUNE 22ND MEETING. AND, AND I'LL DO THINGS LIKE WE USED TO WHERE IF ANYBODY, UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY CORRECTIONS, UH, TO THE MINUTES, I'LL JUST DEEM THEM APPROVED. ANYBODY HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS? HEARING NONE, UH, I'LL DEEM THE MINUTES, UH, THE MINUTES APPROVED FOR THE JUNE 22ND MEETING AND, [COMMITTEE COMMENT] UH, MOVE ON TO COMMITTEE COMMENTS. UH, COUNCIL UPDATE, UH, COUNCILMAN DI CARLY, DO YOU HAVE A COUNCIL UPDATE FOR US? NO UPDATES FROM COUNCIL, BUT, UM, I DO WANNA SAY I APPRECIATE STAFF'S EFFORTS WITH THE RUNWAY PRO, OR EXCUSE ME, TAXIWAY PROJECT. UM, LOOKS GREAT. YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING WAS ON TIME. IT WAS, UH, REALLY GREAT EFFORT BY STAFF AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED, SO THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. AND, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANT TO, UH, APPRECIATE SEND OUR THANKS OUT TO GELATI AND ME AND HUNT FOR REALLY PUTTING TOGETHER A REALLY AWESOME PROJECT AS WELL AS OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WITH THE CITY THAT I REALLY HELPED DIRECT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT STAYED ON, UH, ON TIME, ON BUDGET, AND DID A PHENOMENAL JOB AT, AT CORRALLING A, A WHOLE NUMBER OF HANDS IN IT. SO, YEAH, NO, IT WAS PERFECT. IT WAS A TEXTBOOK, UH, JOB, SO, YEAH. YEAH, AND I, I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO, UH, TAXI ACROSS IT A FEW TIMES AND THEY, THEY DID DO A FANTASTIC JOB, SO WE'RE DEFINITELY HAPPY TO, UH, TO HAVE THAT DONE. SO NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PROJECT. UH, WE WILL MOVE ON TO AD HOC, UH, SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATES. UM, I CAN GIVE A, UH, AN UPDATE. WE HAVE OUR HANGAR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS AD HOC AS WELL AS, UH, HANGAR WEIGHTLESS POLICY AND HANGAR DEVELOPMENT AD HOCS. UM, WE CAN PROBABLY, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT, UM, FOR COMMISSIONER BULEY, WE, WE HAVE A COUPLE SUBCOMMITTEES THAT HAVE BEEN OPEN. THESE ARE THE CURRENT ONES THAT WE HAVE OPEN. UM, MOST OF THESE, I I WAS SITTING ON MOST OF THESE ALONG WITH COMMISSIONER MCGAUGH. UM, SO MAYBE WHEN COMMISSIONER DIETRICH IS BACK AND WE HAVE A FULL PANEL, UM, WE CAN DISCUSS, UM, YOU KNOW, CHANGES IF ANYBODY WANTS TO JOIN OR DROP OFF A COMMITTEE. UM, I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO WORK WITH, UH, DASH ON SOME OF THE, THE MAINTENANCE ITEMS AS WELL AS DISCUSSING THE WAIT LIST POLICY. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE REASON THESE AD HOCS WERE CREATED IN THE FIRST PLACE WAS BECAUSE WE HAD QUITE A FEW, UM, INSTANCES OF NON AERONAUTICAL USE, NON-COMPLIANT HANGERS IN THE PAST. UM, AND WE WORKED THROUGH THAT, BUT THERE WAS A TIME WHERE THINGS WEREN'T REALLY MOVING AS, AS FAST AS IT SHOULD. UM, AND IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH DASH, I, I HAVE, UH, FULL CONFIDENCE THAT, UM, HE'LL BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE CURRENT OUTSTANDING SITUATIONS OUT THERE TO THE POINT WHERE, UM, WE CAN KEEP THE, THE AD HOCS OPEN, UH, FOR THE TIME BEING, BUT I'M NOT SURE, MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT CLOSING 'EM OUT AND, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, I THINK, UM, AT LEAST SOME OF THESE HAVE SERVED THEIR PURPOSE AS FAR AS THE, THE WAIT LIST AND MAINTENANCE. I THINK DASH IS MORE THAN CAPABLE OF, OF HANDLING THOSE EXISTING ISSUES. UM, HANGAR DEVELOPMENT, WE'VE HAD, UM, CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT, SO WE COULD PROBABLY KEEP THAT OPEN AS WE EXPLORE, UM, SOME OF THE POSSIBILITIES ON THE WEST END. UM, THERE'S QUITE A, QUITE A DIFFERENT, FEW DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS WE CAN TAKE THAT. I KNOW IT'S EARLY ON IN THE STAGES, BUT, UM, I IMAGINE WE'LL BE HAVING MORE CONVERSATIONS AS TIME GOES ON. UM, SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY UPDATES I HAVE WITH THOSE. DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY AD HOC UPDATES THAT THEY'D LIKE TO PROVIDE? NO, THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD HAVE IS I WOULD, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT PERHAPS WHEN WE'VE GOT A FULL COUNCIL, MAYBE THERE'S SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE SHOULD POTENTIALLY, THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT PEOPLE WANNA ADDRESS. YEAH. AND, UH, WE HAVE, SO I THINK WE, WE HAVE PAID OFF THE, THE BOND PAYMENTS [00:10:01] ON THE, THE NEWER HANGERS. THOSE ARE DONE NOW. RIGHT. SO I THINK WE HAD, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, SO, YOU KNOW, WE WON'T GET INTO THAT, BUT, UM, POTENTIALLY JUST LOOKING AT MAYBE REOPENING SOME PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST AND REVISITING THOSE AND SEEING IF THERE'S THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO MAYBE MOVE UP FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR OR WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THOSE. I KNOW WE, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME ON THE SCHEDULE ALREADY, SO WE CAN KIND OF MAYBE DO AN UPDATE ON THAT AND SEE WHERE WE'RE AT WITH SOME OF THOSE. CAN I, CAN I SUGGEST THAT MAYBE IF POSSIBLE BY THE NEXT MEETING WE, UM, GET A REVIEW OF THE FIVE-YEAR DEVELOPMENT PLAN? UM, UH, WE, WE COULD CERTAINLY WORK ON DOING THAT. UM, AND I BELIEVE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING WITH THE FAA ABOUT OUR, OUR A I PLAN, UM, COMING UP HERE. AND SO WE MIGHT, MAYBE I'LL HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THAT AS WELL. OKAY. FOR, FOR, UH, NEXT MONTH? IS THAT, OR WHAT'S THE TIMING ON THAT? UH, THAT'S THIS UPCOMING MONDAY, SO WE, I IMAGINE WE'LL HAVE, UH, SOME MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY DO A REVIEW OF THE NEXT FIVE YEAR PLAN. THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING. THANK YOU. UH, WITH NO OTHER AD HOC, UH, UPDATES. UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER COMMENT. DO YOU HAVE ANY GENERAL COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? UH, HEARING NONE, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE [STAFF COMMENT] ON TO, UH, STAFF COMMENT AND THE AIRPORT MANAGER'S REPORT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, FIRST THINGS FIRST, I'D REALLY LIKE TO WELCOME DREW TO THE COMMISSION. IT'S, IT'S A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD, AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE THE MANY YEARS OF WORKING TOGETHER WITH YOU ON THE COMMISSION. SO WELCOME ABOARD. UM, SO JUST GOING INTO OUR, OUR MANAGER'S REPORT, WE'RE GONNA START OFF ON THE FINANCIAL SIDE. UM, SO ON OUR LAST COMMISSION I INTRODUCED HAVING A FUEL COST OF GOODS, UH, SOLD REPORT JUST SO THAT, UM, THE AIRPORT COMMUNITY AND THE COMMISSION IS AWARE OF THE FUEL PRICING, UH, THAT'S GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES AND HOW WE DICTATE OUR FUEL PRICING GOING FORWARD. UM, WE'VE CLEANED IT UP A LITTLE BIT, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE LEGIBLE. UM, IN THE FOLLOWING WEEKS SINCE OUR LAST COMMISSION MEETING, WE'VE SEEN A GENERAL UPTICK IN FUEL PRICING. AND SO, UM, GENERALLY WHENEVER WE TAKE A FUEL LOAD, WE PRICE FUEL BASED ON THAT LAST DELIVERY. AND SO IN THE COMING WEEKS, WE'LL PROBABLY SEE SOME MORE INCREASES BASED ON THE CURRENT TRAJECTORY THAT WE'RE SEEING, UH, ON THE REFINERY LEVEL, UM, IN THE WHOLESALE LEVEL FOR THE AIRPORT. WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION DASH MM-HMM . UM, DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE CURRENT CONTRACT IS DUE FOR RENEWAL? I BELIEVE IT'S ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH, SO PART OF THAT, UH, IS WE ALSO HAVE, UM, FUEL PRICE REPORTS. SO WE HAVE ONE FOR BOTH A HUNDRED LOW LEAD AND JET A. UM, AND SO EACH OF THESE PRICE REPORTS OUTLINE WHAT WE PAID FOR ON OUR LAST DELIVERY OF FUEL, WHAT THE BASE COST OF FUEL IS, WHAT EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL TAXES ARE. UM, IT ALSO HAS OUR END OF PLANE, WHICH IS THE MARGIN. SO WHAT THE, THE AIRPORT MAKES IN REVENUE, UM, GROSS OR GROSS PROFIT, I SHOULD SAY, FROM FUEL SALES. UM, PLUS WITH SALES TAX ADDED ON AND NOW COMES OUT AS OUR PRICE DETERMINATION. SO FOR A HUNDRED LOW LEAD AND, AND JET A, WE HAVE MULTIPLE TIERS OF, OF PRICING. SO, UM, WE'VE INCLUDED ON THERE, UM, FOR HUNTER LOW LEAD, WE'VE GOT WHAT OUR, OUR RETAIL RATE IS FOR THE SELF-SERVE, SO WHAT'S OUR ADVERTISED RATE. WE ALSO HAVE THE DISPLAY DAY PRICE, UM, WHICH IS OUR ONCE A DAY, UM, FUEL DISCOUNT, WHICH GOES ALONG WITH DISPLAY DAYS, WHICH IS 50 CENTS. WE ALSO WANNA SHOW THAT, UM, IT'D BE COMMENSURATE. UM, YOU SHOW THAT WHAT FUEL, LIKE BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF FUEL SALES AND INCREASES, HOW IT GETS IT BACK TO WHERE WE'RE AT A BASELINE, IF NOT MAKING MORE. UM, I'VE ALSO INCLUDED FOR THE HUNTER LOW LEAD SIDE, IF WE WERE TO POTENTIALLY HAVE A FUEL TRUCK AT SOME POINT WITH A FUEL FARM RENOVATION, WHAT SORT OF MARGIN WE ANTICIPATE TO HAVE WITH THAT. UM, ON THE JET A SIDE, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A RETAIL RATE AND WE, UH, A BASE RATE AND A, A TITAN CONTRACT FUEL RATE WHERE THE CITY DOESN'T PAY MERCHANT FEES, UM, WITH THAT, THAT PARTICULAR FORM OF PAYMENT. AND SO WE DON'T INCLUDE THE, THE TWO POINT A PERCENT, UH, CREDIT CARD FEE THAT IN THAT PRICE. UM, AND SO THE SAVINGS THAT THE AIRPORT GETS FROM NOT HAVING TO PAY THOSE MERCHANT FEES WE PASS ON TO THE CUSTOMER. UM, WE ALSO HAVE A FUEL SALES REPORT, UM, SHOWING OUR FUEL SALES FROM THE PAST, UH, PAST FEW MONTHS AND THE TRAJECTORY WE'VE BEEN GOING. UM, SO IN THE MONTH OF MAY, WE DID ABOUT 7,500 GALLONS. UM, JUNE, WE DID ABOUT 8,000. UM, AND THAT'S WITH A WEEK OF RUNWAY CLOSURES IN THERE. UM, JULY, WE'VE HAD OUR BEST MONTH OF THE YEAR SO FAR AT 10,000 GALLONS, AND THAT'S ALSO DESPITE HAVING A [00:15:01] ONE WEEK RUNWAY CLOSURE IN THAT SPAN. UM, AND SO WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY PHENOMENAL FUEL DAYS, UM, AND THE DISPLAY DAY DISCOUNT DAYS HAVE PROVEN TO BE, UM, EXTREMELY POPULAR WITH THE AGA COMMUNITY. DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH YOU UPTICK YOU SAW ON DISPLAY DAY BY GIVING THAT PRICE? I'M JUST CURIOUS. DO YOU, SO, SO BASED ON A TYPICAL SAT SATURDAY, YOU, DID YOU SEE 10% MORE? DO YOU HAVE ANY? SO OUR, OUR AVERAGE FUEL DAY AT THE AIRPORT IS ABOUT 200 GALLONS ON AVERAGE FOR THE SUMMER MONTHS, AND WE'RE SEEING ABOUT AN AVERAGE OF 600 TO 800 GALLONS A DAY ON THOSE DISPLAY DAY DISCOUNT DAYS. SO WE'RE MORE THAN ENOUGH MAKING UP FOR, UM, THE DISCOUNT AS OF RIGHT NOW. SO DASH, I HAD A QUESTION. UH, IN THE PAST, WE'D GOT A REPORT PRESENTED TO US THAT SHOWED, UM, THE PREVIOUS YEAR MM-HMM . INFORMATION. CAN WE GET THAT INCORPORATED? CAN WE GET THAT BACK? YEAH. SO, UM, IN THE, WHEN I WAS MAKING THIS, I WAS THE OLD FORM, I WASN'T QUITE, UM, COMFORTABLE LIKE WORKING WITH IT AND OKAY. DIDN'T QUITE GET IT TO WORK. SO AT LEAST IN THE TIMEFRAME FOR THIS MEETING, UM, I HAVE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE JUST SO THAT THERE WAS SOME FORM OF FUEL REPORT FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE OKAY. HOW WE'RE DOING, AT LEAST IN THE IMMEDIATE TERM. BUT, UM, IT'S BEING REWORKED SO THAT WE CAN GO BACK AND WE CAN SHOW THAT WHAT FUEL SALES HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST. UM, AND EVENTUALLY I'M HOPING TO BE ABLE TO SHOW SO WHAT A, A DAY AVERAGE LOOKS LIKE, UM, JUST SO THAT, UM, THE COMMISSION AND THE AIRPORT COMMUNITY KNOWS WHAT ON AVERAGE WE'RE SELLING PER DAY. I THINK THERE'S VALUE IN KNOWING YEAR OVER YEAR MM-HMM . UM, OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE HEALTH OF THE AIRPORT, NGA, YOU KNOW, YEAH. WHETHER WE'RE TRENDING BETTER OR WORSE. YEAH. GREAT. WHAT I CAN SAY, JUST FROM, FROM MY PAST EXPERIENCE RUNNING AN FBO, IT HAS BEEN A DOWNWARD TRAJECTORY FOR A HUNTER. LOW LEAD SALES IN GENERAL. MM-HMM . UM, AND IN GENERAL, JET A SALES HAVE GONE UP THOUGH, UM, JUST FROM WHAT I CAN TELL AT THE, AT OUR AIRPORT, IT'S BEEN FAIRLY LOW AND WE HAVE A LOT OF ROOM OF IMPROVEMENT MM-HMM . UM, SO SOMETHING THAT I'M WORKING ON AND I LIKE TO SEE IS ACTUALLY HAVING A GOAL-BASED STRUCTURE SO THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TARGETS THAT WE WANNA STRIVE TOWARDS MM-HMM . AND KIND OF SET A BALLPARK SO THAT, UM, GOING FORWARD WE CAN SAY, YOU KNOW, ARE WE ACTUALLY HAVING A GOOD PRICING STRATEGY? ARE WE TRYING TO DO WHAT'S BEST? UM, SO ONE THING THAT I SHOULD NOTE ABOUT THE FUEL PRICE CALCULATION, JUST GOING, TAKING BACK A FEW STEPS, UM, THE NEW FUEL PRICING IS ACTUALLY BASED ON A CONTRACT FUEL RATE THAT YOU MIGHT SEE OTHERWISE SEE AT A PRIVATE FBO. UM, 95% OF FUEL SALES AT PRIVATE FBOS FOR GEN A ARE NOT AT, USUALLY AT THE RETAIL RATE. THEY'RE ALMOST ALWAYS AT A CONTRACT FUEL RATE WHERE IT'S AT A DISCOUNTED RATE. AND SO, UM, WE'RE BASING IT ON WHAT A TRADITIONAL FBO WOULD CHARGE FOR THAT RATE TO TRY TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE WITH OTHER AIRPORTS IN THE AREA, WHETHER THAT'S, UM, SANTA ROSA THAT'S IN THE NORTH WHERE THEY HAVE TWO FBOS OR NOVATO IN THE SOUTH, OR NAPA TO THE EAST, OR GOING AS FAR AS CONCORD. UM, WE WANT TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE ON THE JET FUEL MARKETS SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT FLYING INTO SON COUNTY OR MARINE COUNTY, THAT WERE THE OBVIOUS CHOICE ON JET A PRICING FOR THEM. EXCELLENT. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR BRINGING YOUR EXPERTISE TO BEAR MM-HMM . ON THIS TOPIC. YEAH. IMPORTANT SOURCE OF REVENUE. THANK YOU. UM, SO WE'VE ALSO GOT, UH, AN EXPENDITURE STATUS REPORT AND A REVENUE STATUS REPORT. UM, AND SO, UM, IT'S AT THE VERY START OF THE FISCAL YEAR, SO SOME NUMBERS ARE STILL BEING FILLED OUT ON THE, ON THE EXPENSE REPORT. UM, ACTUALLY, EXCUSE ME, I'M LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT ONE FROM MY DESK AT, AT THE OFFICE. UM, IT DOES GO BACK, UM, A BIT OF PERIOD FROM MARCH 1ST OR MARCH 1ST THROUGH JUNE 30TH, SO THE LAST, LAST QUARTER. UM, AND SO WE HAVE THOSE, UM, EXPENDITURE AND FISCAL REPORTS FOR YOU. YEAH. UM, FOR THE OPERATION SIDE, WE ALSO HAVE A STAFFING UPDATE, UM, UH, STA BURN SIDE, HE'S MOVED ON, HE'S, UM, MOVED ON TO A NEW CAREER SETTING UP, UH, UM, RADAR STATIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY. UM, SO WE'RE, WE'VE LOST ONE OF OUR PART-TIME RAMP ATTENDANTS, UM, IN THAT TIME. UM, WE'VE ALSO GOT, UM, THE CARGO REPORT BACK, UM, AND BASED ON WITH THE CARGO REPORT THAT I HAVE IN PLACE, UM, IT'S BASED ON THE TWO MONTHS OF DATA THAT I HAD AVAILABLE IN FRONT OF ME. SO, UM, THE THING THAT'S BEEN FAIRLY CONSISTENT IS THE NUMBER OF LANDINGS, UM, EVEN IN THE MONTH OF JUNE AND JULY, UM, WITH TWO RUNWAY CLOSURES. UM, AND THE CARGO VOLUME IS, UM, WITHIN 5,000 POUNDS OF EACH OTHER. UM, AND THAT'S, UM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD, IT'S CARGO BEING FLOWN OUT RATHER THAN CARGO BEING FLOWN INTO THE AIRPORT. UM, YOU KNOW, SO MOVING ON. SO TO OUR PROJECTS, I'M ACTUALLY GONNA TURN THIS OVER TO, TO MEET AND HUNT FOR, UM, AN UPDATE ON TAXI AWAY ALPHA AND AS WELL AS AN UPDATE ON THE TAXI [00:20:01] UPCOMING TAXI LANE V REHABILITATION PROJECT. THANK YOU. EVENING. UH, MY NAME IS MATTHEW PADILLA WITH MEAD AND HUNT. A PROJECT MANAGER, UH, HELPED OVERSEE THE PROGRAM FOR THE, UH, AIRPORT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS OVER AT THE MUNICIPAL AIRPORT. UH, AS DASH SAID, UH, AND WAS, UH, NOTED EARLIER, WE WERE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE THE TAXIWAY A, UH, REHABILITATION PROJECT, UH, A FEW WEEKS AGO. UM, AND WITH THAT WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, EXTEND, UH, OUR APPRECIATION TO THE AIRPORT USERS. UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY CONSTRUCTION ALWAYS COMES WITH THE, THE NEW NUANCES OF, UM, BEING ABLE TO, TO USE THE AIRPORT AS AS YOU WOULD LIKE, BUT, UH, WE REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S COOPERATION, UH, AND ALLOWING US TO PROVIDE A, A QUALITY PRODUCT, UM, FOR, FOR THE AIRPORT USERS TO CONTINUE TO USE. THEN AND, UM, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS NEXT TAXI LANE B RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT AS WELL, UM, FOR THE TAXIWAY A WE DO STILL HAVE, UH, ONE LAST ITEM TO COMPLETE, UH, WITH THE FINAL STRIPING, AS WELL AS THE, UH, EDGE REFLECTORS, UH, REPLACEMENT THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR, UH, AUGUST 17TH THROUGH THE 20TH. UH, WE DO HAVE THAT PLAN FOR NIGHT WORK, UM, WHICH WILL ALSO REQUIRE, UH, RUNWAY CLOSURES AS WE WILL NEED TO RETRIP THE, OR INCLUDE THE STRIPING OF THE LEAD-IN LINES, UH, FOR RETROREFLECTIVE, UH, BEATS TO BE INSTALLED, AS WELL AS THE, UH, SECOND APPLICA CODED APPLICATION. UM, THAT WORK IS EXPECTED TO START AT, UH, 7:00 PM AND THEN WE SHOULD BE, UH, GETTING EVERYTHING WRAPPED UP AND HAVE RUNWAY, UH, REOPENED BY 5:00 AM UH, AT THE END OF EACH DAY. AS ALWAYS, WE'RE, UH, GONNA LOOK TO HAVE, UH, THAT WORK, UH, COMPLETED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THAT SCHEDULED FOR, UH, THE 17TH THROUGH THE 20TH, SO THAT WOULD BE THE MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY ON THE TAXI LANE B UH, WE GOT THE UPDATED SCHEDULE FROM THE CONTRACTOR, WHICH THAT WILL BE DONE BY GRANITE CONSTRUCTION. SO TAXIWAY A WAS DONE BY GEL, SO NOW WE'LL BE, UM, WORKING WITH GRANITE. UH, AND SO WITH THAT, WE HAVE, UH, WORK SCHEDULED TO BEGIN AUGUST 31ST. UH, AND THEY HAVE 23 WORKING DAYS, SO ABOUT A FIVE WEEK DURATION TO COMPLETE THAT. UM, WHICH WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE, UH, THE SOUTH TAXI LANE B PORTION THAT'LL BE GETTING RECONSTRUCTED. UH, THAT'LL BE, UH, OPENED BACK UP, UH, OCTOBER 2ND, AND THEN 30 DAYS AFTER THAT IS WHEN WE'LL COME BACK AND DO THAT FINAL STRIPING AS WELL. UM, ALTHOUGH A SMALLER PORTION OF, UH, OF PAVEMENT RE RECONSTRUCTION COMPARED TO THE TAXIWAY A UH, OBVIOUSLY WE ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO, UH, OCCUPIED, UM, HANGERS, WHICH, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE BEEN EMPHASIZING SAFETY, UH, AND AWARENESS ON THE CONTRACTOR'S END, MAKING SURE THAT HOUSEKEEPING, UH, AND ORGANIZATION IS DEFINITELY AT THE TOP OF THEIR LIST, AS WELL AS, UH, SAFETY, WHICH IS ALWAYS, ALWAYS THE NUMBER ONE, UH, ITEM FOR ANY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. UM, WITH THAT, AGAIN, JUST WOULD, UH, LIKE TO ASK FOR, UH, ALL, ALL THE COOPERATION AND PATIENCE WITH US AS WE, UH, LOOK TO PROVIDE ANOTHER QUALITY PROJECT FOR, FOR THE AIRPORT. AND WITH THAT, UM, WANTED TO ALSO EXTEND, UH, UM, MY APPRECIATION TOWARDS DASH WITH ALL OF HIS, UH, HARD WORK BEHIND THE SCENES, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH HIS DAY ONE, LITERALLY BEING THE FIRST DAY OF CONSTRUCTION FOR TAXIWAY A, UM, IT WAS QUITE, UH, QUITE AN EVENT TO STEP INTO AND, UH, HE'S, HE'S TAKEN IT ON, UH, WITH MUCH GUSTO, AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL HIS EFFORTS. UM, AND WITH THAT, ALSO EXTENDING IT TO, UH, GINA AND JOSH AS WELL, AND, AND ISABEL WITH THE, WITH THE CITY AND PROVIDING ALL THE SUPPORT, UM, AND HELP THAT WE WOULD NEED FROM, UH, FROM THE CITY SIDE AND THEN ALSO THE FIELD CREWS FROM BOTH GEL AND THEN, UH, THE ARM MEAN HUNT GROUP AS WELL. UM, THERE WERE DEFINITELY SOME LONG NIGHTS, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE CONSTRUCTION COMES WITH THE, UH, CHALLENGES AND OBSTACLES AND, UH, THIS PROJECT OF COURSE WASN'T WITHOUT THOSE, UH, BUT IT WAS THE DETERMINATION, UH, AND, AND COOPERATION OF, OF ALL PARTIES HERE THAT REALLY ALLOWED US TO PROVIDE A QUALITY PROJECT THERE. AND WE LOOKED TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING HERE WITH TAXI LANE B. WELL, THANK YOU MATT. UM, SOUNDS YOU HAVE A, A QUESTION? YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, UH, SO YOU SAID AUGUST 31ST, NOW IS IS THE PRELIMINARY START DATE, CORRECT? YEAH, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN MOVED BACK. I THINK IT WAS ORIGINALLY, WASN'T IT ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR MID-AUGUST SOMETIME? YEAH, WE HAD AUGUST 17TH, UH, AS THE ORIGINAL START DATE. UM, GRANITE DID HAVE A FEW [00:25:01] SCHEDULING, UH, CONFLICTS COME UP, AND SO IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE KEEPING THE CLOSURE FOR THE MINIMUM DAYS, UH, THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THAT CONTRACT, UH, THEY NEEDED, UH, TO SHIFT THAT START DATE BACK. SO MAKING SURE THAT WE KEEP THAT 23 DAY CLOSURE TO JUST 23 DAYS. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. I'M SORRY, COULD YOU REPEAT THE, THE DATE? I, I DIDN'T HEAR IT. YEAH, SO TAXIING B WILL BEGIN, UH, AUGUST 31ST, 31ST. OKAY. AND THEN THE 23 WORKING DAYS? UM, WELL, 22 WORKING DAYS WOULD PUT THE REOPENING BACK UP ON, UH, OCTOBER 2ND. OCTOBER 2ND FRIDAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OBVIOUSLY SCHEDULING CAN CHANGE, BUT, UM, IS IT POSSIBLE MAYBE MID-AUGUST TO SEND AN EMAIL OUT TO AFFECTED TENANTS IN THOSE HANGAR ROWS? UM, I MEAN, I SUPPOSE PROBABLY THE BEST THING WE CAN DO IS JUST, UM, IF, IF THERE'RE, IF THEY'D LIKE TO MOVE TO THE RAMP, INTO A TIE DOWN SPOT, UM, AT LEAST GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO IF THEY SO CHOOSE. WE HAVE AN EMAIL DRAFTED THAT, UM, ACTUALLY HAS THE OLD DATES AND SO IT'S GETTING UPDATED TO BE SENT OUT ON MONDAY, SO OKAY. WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATED SCHEDULE FOR THAT. GREAT. UM, AND WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, UM, WAS, WAS THAT THE CONCLUSION OF THE MANAGER'S REPORT OR DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THERE? UM, THAT'S THE CONCLUSION OF MANAGER'S REPORT. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE, UM, ONE NOTE ON THE, ON THE FUEL PRICING. UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH REGARD TO FUEL AND I APPRECIATE THE ATTENTION INTO IT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, UM, IT WAS SOMETIMES LOOKED AT BEING, TRYING TO BE COMPETITIVE, YOU KNOW, IN THE AREA WITH, YOU KNOW, SANTA ROSA, WHICH ISN'T REALLY A TRUE COMPETITOR. AND THEN NOS, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AND YOU SEE THE SPIKES, YOU CAN REALLY SEE HOW, UM, PRICING DOES AFFECT VOLUME, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS ABOUT PRICE. SOMETIMES GIVING A LITTLE MARGIN, WE CAN MAKE IT BACK IN VOLUME. UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST, YOU KNOW, KNOW THAT FROM MY OWN FLIGHTS, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY FUEL PRICE DOES COME INTO PLAY. SO, UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON THAT, THAT THAT WILL DEFINITELY GET, YOU KNOW, HELP US OUT MOVING FORWARD. SO YEAH, I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS ON THAT. YEAH, I WILL MAKE A NOTE WITH THE NEW MODEL OF JET A PRICING WHERE WE'RE MA UM, BEING MORE ON A CONTRACT FUEL RATE, THAT MARGIN MIGHT FLUCTUATE OVER TIME UNTIL WE FIND A HAPPY MEDIUM. UH, RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT IT SET UP TO MATCH A HUNDRED LOW LOAD PRICING, BUT FOR EVERY 10 CENTS THAT WE HAVE IN MARGIN, IT'S $800 ON A FULL FUEL LOAD. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS WILL FLUCTUATE OVER TIME, BUT EVENTUALLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE A HAPPY MEDIUM, AT LEAST ON THE JET A SIDE. BUT FOR HUNTER LOW LEAD, I THINK THE CITY'S PRETTY HAPPY WHERE IT'S AT RIGHT NOW. VERY GOOD. UM, THANK YOU AGAIN. UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, MOVE ON. THAT BRINGS US TO THE, UH, END OF THE AGENDA UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY LAST MINUTE COMMENTS, I THINK WE CAN CALL IT AT SIX 30. ADJOURN. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.