Pedestrian & Bicycle Advisory Committee

* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. CHANGES SLOWLY. [CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:02] SO, CALLING TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY OF PETALUMA PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 5TH. ROLL. [ROLL CALL] CALL THIS CLERK. BASHAW. PRESENT CHISHOLM. FEEL FELIX. HERE. GARCIA PRESENT. GOLDMAN. HERE. MYERS? YEP. QUINT. HERE. HERE. JAGER. HERE WE HAVE A FORUM, [GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT] UH, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEMS OF PUBLIC INTEREST THAT ARE WITHIN THE COMMITTEE'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION, AND THAT ARE NOT LISTED ON THE CURRENT AGENDA. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE. TIME WILL BE ALLOTTED IN EQUAL SHARES TOTALING NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES SUBJECT TO THE COMMITTEE'S DISCRETION, OPENING PUBLIC COMMENT, AND ASK SPEAKERS TO BRING THEIR SPEAKER CARDS TO THE CLERK'S DESK IF THEY HAVE NOT ALREADY. HAVE. HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS PRIOR TO THE MEETING? SO THERE ARE THREE PRIOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS, WHICH ARE, UM, POSTED ON THE AGENDA PACKET. . THANK YOU. . I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING TARDY. UM, I WILL NOW GO, UH, IN PERSON PUBLIC SPEAKERS. THANK YOU. WE GOT SOME CARDS. UM, STARTING WITH, UH, LUCY FAIRWEATHER, PLEASE COME ON UP TO PLEASE. YEAH. IS THIS THE COMMENT I SUBMITTED OR SHOULD I SAY IT AGAIN? UH, THIS IS, YEAH, THE PARKLET PROGRAM CONCEPT. OKAY. THIS IS A GENERAL COMMENT. YEAH. YEP. I SUBMITTED, UM, AN EMAIL AS WELL, SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME STUFF IN YOUR GUYS PAPERWORK. UM, THIS WEEKEND MY PARTNER AND I PUT UP A LITTLE PARKLET IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE JUST TO SEE IF NEIGHBORS WERE WANTING TO CONNECT. AND, UM, AND IT WAS REALLY SUCCESSFUL. A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME OUT, IT SLOWED TRAFFIC. IT, UM, IT WAS JUST A REALLY NICE COMMUNITY FEELING. AND I JUST WANTED TO, TO SAY THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT IF WE PUSHED A PROGRAM, UM, THAT ALLOWED PEOPLE TO IMPLEMENT THIS IN A RESIDENTIAL MANNER. UM, I WROTE UP A LITTLE GUIDELINE IN CASE THAT MADE THINGS EASIER FOR THE CITY. UM, AND I'D LOVE FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO, TO BACK IT AND, AND HELP PUSH THAT. SO, THAT'S IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MM-HMM . I NOW INVITE ABIGAIL SMITH. THANK YOU. HI. UM, FIRST I WANNA INTRODUCE MYSELF AS THE, UH, REBUILDING TOGETHER PEDAL MAP BOARD PRESIDENT. AND IN THAT ROLE, I JUST WANNA REITERATE OUR INTEREST IN SUPPORTING THE CITY'S A TP IMPLEMENTATION OF PROJECTS, UM, AS WELL AS SOME POTENTIALLY SMALLER PROJECTS, UM, THAT WE HAVE ON MIND. UM, AND AS AN INDIVIDUAL, I'D LIKE TO REITERATE MY REQUEST OR SECOND IT, UM, TO PUT IN GREEN BIKE BOXES AT, UM, THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF EAST E STREET AT THE LAKEVILLE INTERSECTION. AND I'VE, I EMAILED, UH, YOU THREE ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO, SO JUST AGAIN, ASKING. AND I RECOGNIZE IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT INTERSECTION, BUT I'M HOPING THIS INCREASES BICYCLE VISIBILITY. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, NATHAN SPINDEL. GOOD EVENING. I'M ALSO HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC GREEN SPACES PROPOSAL THAT LUCY SUBMITTED. I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN THE COMMUNITY THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, AND, UM, REALLY CAME TO A COOL MOMENT THIS PAST WEEKEND AT LUCY AND CHRIS'S PARKLET. UM, THERE WERE A TON OF PEOPLE THERE. EVERYONE WAS TALKING, COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW FAST THAT STREET WAS AND HOW EXCITED THEY WERE TO SEE SOME TRAFFIC COMING DONE BY THE COMMUNITY ITSELF. AND, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE PAC IN THE CITY WORK TOGETHER ON A PROGRAM THAT MADE THESE THINGS LEGAL AND STREAMLINED TO IMPLEMENT. UM, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A COMMUNITY REQUEST AND IT CAN TAKE SOME TIME. SO I'M CURIOUS HOW, UM, PAC AND THE CITY CAN WORK TOGETHER TO GET THIS AS A PRIORITY, MAYBE IN THE MARCH. UM, GOAL PRIORITY SETTING C UH, HELP WORK ON MAKING THIS A REAL PROGRAM BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF CORNERS, OR WE'D LIKE PLANTINGS, TREES, BENCHES, AND TRAFFIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. SO PLEASE CHECK OUT THE PROPOSAL AND I'M REALLY CURIOUS TO THE COMMITTEE'S THOUGHTS ON IT. THANKS. [00:05:03] UH, THANK YOU. AND OUR LAST, THIS EVENING, UH, GENERAL COMMENT WILL BE BY EMILY SHEAN. HELLO, UH, EMILY CHARLTON FROM THE SONOMA COUNTY BICYCLE COALITION. UM, WE ARE A PART OF THE, UH, GROUP THIS YEAR THAT IS, UH, HELPING TO ORGANIZE WEEK WITHOUT DRIVING IN SONOMA COUNTY. AND ACTUALLY THE EFFORTS ARE GONNA BE EXPANDED INTO MARIN COUNTY THIS YEAR AS WELL. UM, IT WILL BE, UH, OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH THE EIGHTH. UM, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR, UM, THE, THE CHALLENGE IS TO GIVE UP YOUR CAR FOR A WEEK, UH, IN ORDER TO HELP IDENTIFY BARRIERS IN, UM, THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION AND, UH, TRANSIT SYSTEMS. UM, AND REALLY TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE FACED EVERY DAY BY, UM, PEOPLE WHO CAN'T DRIVE, PEOPLE WHO ARE OLDER, UH, KIDS, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, UH, PEOPLE WHO JUST DON'T HAVE CARS. UM, THE GOAL REALLY IS TO GET ELECTED OFFICIALS, UH, COMMUNITY LEADERS, MUNICIPAL STAFF, UH, INVOLVED, UM, IN THE CHALLENGE, UM, SINCE THEY'RE ALL AT THE CENTER OF MAKING CHANGES. UM, BUT OF COURSE THE COMMUNITY IS WELCOME, UH, IN ADDITION. SO WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL ALL CONSIDER PARTICIPATING, UM, UH, TALK TO YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS ABOUT PARTICIPATING AND JUST SPREAD THE WORD, UM, IN YOUR COMMUNITIES SO THAT WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE GOOD PARTICIPATION THIS YEAR. SO, AGAIN, THAT'S, UH, OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH THE EIGHTH. THANKS. UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE DID GET ONE MORE COMMENT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT WAYFINDING, WHICH IS AN AGENDA ITEM. CAN WE BRING IT? 'CAUSE THERE WILL BE COMMENTS ON THE, THE WAYFINDING AGENDA ITEM AS WELL. DO YOU WANT GENERAL? YOU WANNA OKAY. OKAY. I'M, I'M FINE WITH THAT. GO AHEAD, MARY. YEAH, SORRY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THIS GOES. YEAH. I'M MARY DAVIES. UM, I THINK YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH BIKE STREETS. BIKE STREET SAYS ANYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RIDE A BIKE TO ANY DESTINATION TO TODAY. CITY THREAD CALLS THIS SAME IDEA, AN ACCELERATED MOBILITY PLAYBOOK. ARE WE DOING THIS IN PETALUMA? I CAN'T QUITE TELL. I KEEP, I TRY TO KEEP UP WITH WHAT'S BEING DONE HERE FOR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION. SO WHY WAS I AMAZED TO READ THIS MORNING? THE EXCELLENT POLICE DEPARTMENT ALERT THAT NEW BIKE LANES ARE BEING PAINTED ON LAKEVILLE. HOW MIGHT I HAVE KNOWN THIS PROJECT WAS EVEN HAPPENING? WHEN MIGHT I HAVE WEIGHED IN ON EFFECTIVENESS? BUT I TOOK A LOOK AT THE LAKEVILLE LANES, AND I'M HONESTLY SORRY TO SAY I WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED. THEY JUST END IN PLACES. THEY'RE JUST ON ONE SIDE WITH NO ADDITIONAL ATTENTION TO SHEROS, AND MOST DRIVERS, AND EVEN CYCLISTS AREN'T SURE WHAT SHEROS MEAN. SO IT'S ANOTHER SECTION KIND OF LIKE THE BIKE LANES THAT ARE PAINTED ON PETALUMA BOULEVARD SOUTH AS PART OF THE ROAD DIET A FEW YEARS AGO, FROM WHERE TO WHERE IN MAY, 2023. CITY THREAD SUGGESTED TO PETALUMA THAT WHILE WE BUILT THE A TP, WE QUOTE, UPGRADE FIVE MILES OF EXISTING BIKE CORRIDORS AND INTERSECTIONS, KICKING OFF A THREE YEAR CAMPAIGN FOR 25 NEW MILES OF MOBILITY PROJECTS TO BE COMPLETED BY 2026. I UNDERSTAND HOW OVERLY ENTHUSIASTIC THAT TIMETABLE NO DOUBT WAS, BUT IS THIS IDEA REALLY ON OUR RADAR? I SEE US MODIFYING STREETS THAT'LL BE HAVING WORK DONE SO THEY END UP GOOD FOR ALL USERS. THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. WE LOOK FOR GRANTS, WE TRY TO DESIGN PROJECTS THAT THE GRANTS WILL FUND ALL THAT'S GOOD, BUT I'M NOT QUITE SEEING US MOVING AHEAD ON RIDING A BIKE TO ANY DESTINATION TODAY. WE'RE GONNA HEAR TODAY ABOUT THE TOOL WAY FINDING PLAN, AND I'M EXCITED. I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR BIKE SIGNS SINCE I MOVED HERE FROM SEATTLE IN 2017. WILL THE SIGNS TELL US HOW TO FIND THE LIBRARY, THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THE SCHOOLS AND THE SHOPPING AREAS DOES WAY FINDING INCLUDE CURB CUTS AND PAVEMENT FLARING WILL THE OBSTACLES LIKE THE STEEP CURBS AND TIGHT BOLLARDS BOLLARDS IN WESTRIDGE, THE DANGEROUS SMART CROSSINGS AT LAKEVILLE AND PAY RAN, AND THE MISSING SHEROS ON THE ROUNDABOUT AT CRYSTAL LANE BE ADDRESSED. THERE'S AN EXCITING MAP IN OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WHICH SHOWS THAT ESSENTIALLY IF YOU RIDE A BIKE EVERYWHERE YOU LIVE IN PETALUMA IS A 15 MINUTE NEIGHBORHOOD. LET'S MAKE THAT REAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, WITH THAT I CLOSE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS AND MOVE TO APPROVE [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] [00:10:01] THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS JUNE 3RD, UH, COMMITTEE. IS THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE JUNE MINUTES? I SEE SHAKING HEADS, SO I WILL PROVE THE MINUTES, UH, WITHOUT CHANGES, UH, AS PRESENTED, WHICH MOVES US NOW TO, [PUBLIC HEARINGS AND MATTERS FOR CONSIDERATION] UH, THE MAIN AGENDA ITEMS. UH, AND OUR FIRST ITEM THIS EVENING IS TO RECEIVE AN UPDATE, UH, AND OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THE HOWARD STREET IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT. UM, IF YOU WANNA ASK YOU NOW TO PLEASE PRESENT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UH, EXCITED TONIGHT TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE HOWARD STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. UH, WE HELD A COMMUNITY MEETING OR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON THIS, UH, THAT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THIS PRESENTATION A FEW WEEKS AGO HERE AT CITY HALL. UM, SO EXCITED TO, UH, REENGAGE PBAC ON THIS PROJECT TONIGHT. I'LL JUST QUICKLY, UH, GIVE A REFRESH ON THE PROJECT OVERVIEW AND THEN, UH, TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE, UH, THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY. UH, TALK ABOUT SOME OF OUR PROJECT GOALS RUN THROUGH THE PROPOSED CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS AT A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL. UM, AND THEN ZOOM IN ON THE HOWARD, UH, LIBERTY AND A STREET INTERSECTION WHERE SOME MORE ROBUST RECONFIGURATION IS PROPOSED. AND, AND THEN TALK, UH, NEXT STEPS FOR THE PROJECT. SO JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT. UH, THIS WILL BE A, A MAJOR, UH, UTILITY AND PAVEMENT RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. WE'LL BE REPLACING, UH, SEWER AND WATER MAINS, UH, AND THEN RECONSTRUCTING THE ROADWAY EVERYWHERE. YOU SEE YELLOW HERE. SO THAT'S FROM, UM, A STREET ALL THE WAY UP TO WEST STREET. AND THEN WE WILL ALSO BE DOING WATER AND SEWER WORK, UH, IN MORE LIMITED AREAS OF, UH, ENGLISH STREET AND, UH, WEST STREET. OOPS. I DUNNO IF I JUST SKIPPED A SLIDE OR NOT. NO. OKAY. SO HERE ARE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON HOWARD STREET. OBVIOUSLY, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN AN OLDER PART OF TOWN. AND, UH, OUR, THE STREET REALLY REFLECTS THAT. UM, SO YOU CAN OBVIOUSLY SEE BADLY CRACKED, UH, PAVEMENT, YOU KNOW, IT'S COMPLETELY FAILED, UH, A FAILED ROADWAY. UM, WE HAVE, UH, A LOT OF REAL ACCESSIBILITY CHALLENGES OUT THERE. UH, A LOT OF IT, MOST INTERSECTIONS ARE MISSING CURB RAMPS. UM, UH, AS IS ILLUSTRATED HERE, THIS IS AT THE CORNER OF, UH, WESTERN AND HOWARD, UH, WITH A STORM DRAIN RIGHT THERE IN THE, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE, UM, MIDDLE OF THE CROSSWALK. AND THEN IN OTHER SECTIONS, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, KIND OF NARROW, UH, RAMPS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT BETWEEN THE, UM, SIDEWALK AND ROADWAY AND STORM WATER SUPPOSED TO KIND OF FLOW UNDERNEATH HERE. AND WE'VE JUST HAD A LOT OF CHALLENGES MAINTAINING THESE, OBVIOUSLY. UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE NOT ONLY ACCESSIBILITY, BUT ALSO, UH, STORMWATER CONDITIONS OUT THERE. AND THEN, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT LIBERTY STREET INTERSECTION. UM, BUT OPPORTUNITIES TO JUST CREATE A MORE, UH, WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT, UH, A LESS OF A, OF A CAR ORIENTED, UH, STREET. SO OUR GOALS RECONSTRUCT THE PAVEMENT, REPLACE THE SEWER AND WATER MAINS, AND THEN ALSO THE SERVICES, UH, WATER, WATER SERVICES. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO AN OPTION FOR PEOPLE TO, UM, OPT IN FOR SEWER LATERAL REPLACEMENTS. UH, WE WANT TO UPGRADE ALL OF THE CURB RAMPS AND CORNERS TO, TO MEET CURRENT A DA STANDARDS. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE ALSO WANT TO IMPROVE SAFETY FOR ALL ROAD USERS. UH, WE'VE DONE, WE'VE HAD A PRETTY ROBUST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS ON THIS ONE. THIS STARTED BACK IN 2023 OR 24, I BELIEVE. UM, AND, UH, WE DID AN ONLINE SURVEY. WE HELD A FEW COMMUNITY MEETINGS. WE ACTUALLY CAME TO THE PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AS WAS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR THIS EVENING. AND THEN BACK IN MAY OF 2024, WE HELD A CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP. AND AT THAT POINT, WE WERE FULL STEAM AHEAD. AND THEN, UH, WE DID KIND OF HIT, UH, SOME, SOME SPEED BUMPS, UNFORTUNATELY, JUST DID NOT HAVE STAFF CAPACITY TO DELIVER THIS PROJECT. SO WE, WE HIT PAUSE ON THE DESIGN. UH, WE HAVE STAFFED BACK UP ON THE CIP TEAM AND WE'RE MOVING THIS FORWARD. AND, UH, AND WITH A TARGET OF HAVING THIS BID READY, UH, BY THE END OF THE YEAR AND INTO CONSTRUCTION, UH, IN 2027. AND SINCE IT IS, UH, SUCH A BIG PROJECT WITH ALL THAT UTILITY WORK, UM, IT IS, IT WILL HAVE A PRETTY LONG, UH, UH, CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME, THE UTILITY WORK AND ALL THE CONCRETE WORK WILL HAPPEN UPFRONT, AND THEN IT'LL ROLL INTO PAVEMENT RECONSTRUCTION. OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THE MOST IMPACTFUL WORK IN THE SUMMER, GIVEN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE SIGNIFICANCE OF HOWARD STREET TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND ALSO FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL, SCHOOL ACCESS UP AT ST. VINCENT'S. UM, BUT, UH, SO WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO MINIMIZE THOSE IMPACTS [00:15:01] ONCE, ONCE WE DO GET THERE. WHAT WE'VE HEARD SO FAR FROM THE COMMUNITY OBVIOUSLY IMPROVE, UH, IMPROVE CONDITIONS AT THE INTERSECTIONS. THE ONES THAT I'D SAY WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN FEEDBACK ON INTERSECTIONS ALONG THE CORRIDOR, BUT, UH, MOST NOTABLY AT, UM, BODEGA AND, UH, THE INTERSECTION OF BODEGA AND WASHINGTON, AS WELL AS THE INTERSECTIONS WITH WESTERN AVENUE. AND, UH, DOWN AT THE LIBERTY AND A STREET AREA, UH, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, NOT SURPRISING HAVE HEARD, UH, DESIRE TO IMPROVE ACCESSIBILITY AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, UH, IMPROVE BICYCLING. THIS IS A BIKE ROUTE IN BOTH IN OUR FORMER BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN MASTER PLAN, AND IN OUR NEWLY ADOPTED ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN. UH, AS WITH ANY TIME WE'RE TOUCHING A STREET, UH, WE HEAR ABOUT THE DESIRE TO SLOW TRAFFIC. OBVIOUSLY, SPEEDING CONTINUES TO BE A, A MAJOR CONCERN THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. UM, WE'VE HEARD SOME, SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SPILLOVER PARKING IMPACTS, MOSTLY ASSOCIATED WITH BOTH, UH, ST. VINCENT'S ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH DOESN'T HAVE ANY OFF STREET PARKING, AS WELL AS, UH, SOME OF THE NEWER, UM, COMMERCIAL OR, UH, RESTAURANT DINING ACTIVITY WITH ACME BURGER AND CROOKED GOAT THAT, THAT HAVE GONE IN IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. UM, AND THEN LAST, AND I SHOULD, I SHOULD MENTION THE CHURCH AS WELL. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A BIG SPILLOVER IMPACT THERE ON THE WEEKENDS. UM, AND THEN LASTLY, UM, WE HAVE HEARD BE, YOU KNOW, THIS, WE, WE SPAN TWO HISTORIC DISTRICTS HERE. UM, A DESIRE TO HONOR AND PRESERVE SOME OF THOSE HISTORIC ELEMENTS, UH, LIKE THE COBBLESTONES, FOR EXAMPLE, AND, AND WE'LL BE DOING OUR BEST TO BASICALLY REPLACE THOSE IN KIND, UH, OR RESTORE THEM WHEREVER POSSIBLE. THERE WILL BE SOME PLACES WHERE THEY WILL NEED TO COME OUT, BUT WHEREVER FEASIBLE, THE, THE COBBLESTONES WILL REMAIN IN PLACE. ALRIGHT, SO GETTING INTO SOME OF THE PROPOSED DESIGN ELEMENTS. UM, SO THIS IS A, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BULL BOUTS, UH, PROPOSED RIGHT NOW FOR, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR. UH, THE, THE PURPOSE OF THESE BULL BOUTS AS, UH, I THINK COMMITTEE MEMBERS KNOW SLOW TRAFFIC, SHORTEN THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING DISTANCES AND IMPROVE VIS IN VISIBILITY FOR ANYONE UNFAMILIAR WITH THESE, UH, WE REFER, THIS IS, WE REFER TO THESE, UH, THERE'S MY CURSOR. UM, THESE AREAS WHERE WE KIND OF, UH, UH, EXTEND THE SIDEWALK OUT INTO THE ROADWAY AT INTERSECTIONS TO BASICALLY OCCUPY THE SAME WIDTH OF THE PARKING LANE IS A BULL BELT. UM, AND SO WE ARE PROPOSING THESE AT GALLAND, KENT OAK, PROSPECT UNION, HARRIS WESTERN, AND LIBERTY. UM, WE BASICALLY GOT THEM IN WHEREVER, UH, WE FOUND THEM TO BE FEASIBLE. UM, SO THAT'S AT, AT MOST INTERSECTIONS. AND I'VE ALSO HIGHLIGHTED HERE, UM, SOME OF THE NEW CROSSWALK LOCATIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED ALONG THE CORRIDOR. UM, GALLAND KENT, UH, HARRIS STREET, WHICH IS MIDBLOCK OR SORT OF SPLITS THAT, THAT SECTION BETWEEN WESTERN AND BODEGA IN HALF AND ALLOWS FOR ANOTHER CROSSING OPPORTUNITY THERE. UM, AS WELL AS DOWN AT, UM, LIBERTY STREET. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, UM, UPHILL BUFFERED BIKE LANES. SO WE HAVE, UM, I'LL ACTUALLY FORWARD TO THE NEXT SLIDE. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE TYPICAL CROSS SECTION WE'RE WORKING WITH HERE. IF WE WERE TO PROVIDE BIKE LANES IN BOTH DIRECTIONS, THEY DEFINITELY ARE NARROWER AT FIVE FEET. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASICALLY KIND OF RIDING IN THAT DOOR ZONE FOR PARKED CARS. UM, SO THIS IS A, THIS IS SOME, A TRADE OFF I'D LIKE TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON TONIGHT. UM, UH, IS, IS THIS TRADE OFF BETWEEN UPHILL BUFFERED BIKE LANES VERSUS HAVING BIKE LANES IN BOTH DIRECTIONS? UM, THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING, UH, UPHILL BUFFERED BIKE LANES IS THAT YOU ARE PROVIDING A MORE COMFORTABLE EXPERIENCE FOR YOU BICYCLING IN A DIRECTION WHERE THERE IS MORE OF A SPEED DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN SOMEONE BIKING AND SOMEONE DRIVING. UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A PRETTY HILLY CORRIDOR, SO YOU CAN SEE THE BENEFIT THAT'S KIND OF THE BEST PRACTICE IS WHEN YOU'RE ON IN STEEPER SECTIONS, MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT A BIKE LANE GOING UPHILL IN THE DOWNHILL SECTION. UH, THE IDEA IS THAT YOU, YOU CAN RIDE CLOSER TO THE SPEED OF TRAFFIC GOING DOWNHILL, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S A TRADE OFF THERE BECAUSE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT LESS S SEPARATION FROM TRAFFIC. THE, THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE THAT YOU, UM, IF YOU'RE GOING IN THE DOWNHILL DIRECTION, YOU BASICALLY ARE TAKING THE LANE. SO, UM, SO RIGHT NOW OUR PROPOSAL IS TO DO THIS UPHILL BUFFERED BIKE LANE DOWNHILL SHARED LANE CONFIGURATION FROM WESTERN UP TO OAK. AND THEN IT FLIPS SIDES, THE, THE STREET CRESTS AT OAK, AND THEN IT FLIPS SIDES. UH, AND THEN WE WOULD GO, UH, IN THE OTHER DIRECTION, UM, BA BASICALLY BACK FROM KENT UP TO OAK. [00:20:03] AND THEN SECTIONS WHERE WE HAVE WHERE IT FLATTENS OUT, AND, UH, WE WOULD DO BIKE LANES IN BOTH DIRECTIONS ARE, UM, A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF GALL STREET, BASICALLY AT THE CURVE, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR. THAT'S WHERE THE ROADWAY KIND OF OPENS UP FROM THERE TO, UM, KENT STREET, AND THEN ALSO FROM WESTERN DOWN TO A STREET. SO SOMETHING KIND OF FOOD FOR THOUGHT. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY AS YOU, UH, AFTER TONIGHT'S MEETING, IF YOU FIND YOURSELF OUT ON A BIKE, BIKING THOSE SECTIONS OF ROADWAY AND, AND LETTING US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. THERE'S NOT REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IN A WORLD OF, OF, UM, PRETTY FIRM ENGINEERING GUIDANCE ON MOST THINGS, BUT I HAVE NOT COME ACROSS ANY LIKE, REAL CONCLUSIVE GUIDANCE ON PLACES WHERE YOU SHOULD PROVIDE A DOWNHILL SHARED LANE VERSUS A DOWNHILL BIKE LANE AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE, THE SLOPE OF THE ROADWAY. UM, SO IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY KIND OF RIDING AND I'VE TRIED TO GET A FEEL FOR IT, UH, BUT WOULD, WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MORE THOUGHTS ON THAT. SO, UM, AND THEN WE, WE, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING PRETTY CLOSELY AT THE INTERSECTION OF, UH, BODEGA AND WASHINGTON, WHERE RIGHT NOW, UM, THERE'S NOT REALLY ENOUGH ROOM FOR THE OPPOSING LEFT TURNS TO CLEAR EACH OTHER. SO THERE'S KIND OF AN AWKWARD, UM, AWKWARD DANCE THAT HAPPENS, UH, WHEN, WHEN HOWARD STREET HAS A GREEN LIGHT, UM, YOU'RE BASICALLY, YOU'VE GOT TWO OPPOSING DRIVERS IF THEY'RE BOTH MAKING A LEFT, THEY'RE KIND OF COMMUNICATING TO SEE WHO GOES LEFT FIRST. UM, AND THAT'S NOT IDEAL. SO WE DID LOOK AT FIGURING OUT IF WE COULD PROVIDE, UM, DEDICATED LEFT TURN LANES UP THERE, UM, AND, AND MAKE THOSE LEFTS KIND OF CLEAR EACH OTHER THAT WAS CHALLENGING, UH, WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT TURNING MOVEMENTS WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE. SO WHAT WE ENDED UP LANDING ON WAS A, A SPLIT, A SPLIT PHASE SIGNAL WHERE, UM, THE GREENS WILL JUST RELEASE, UH, AT DIFFERENT TIMES. SO YOU'LL HAVE THE GREEN GO FOR ONE DIRECTION OF HOWARD STREET, AND THEN THE GREEN WILL GO FOR THE OTHER DIRECTION OF HOWARD STREET. UM, WE'VE ALSO GOT LEADING PEDESTRIAN INTERVALS, WHICH I BELIEVE ARE ALREADY ACTIVE AT THIS LOCATION THAT GIVES PEOPLE A WALK SIGN FIVE SECONDS BEFORE THE DRIVERS GET A GREEN. AND THEN LASTLY, WE WILL BE INSTALLING BIKE BOXES AT THE INTERSECTION, WHICH, UH, PROVIDE AN ADVANCED WAITING AREA. IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO MAKE A LEFT TURN OR, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE CASE OF WHAT I JUST HIGHLIGHTED THERE, WHERE THE EXPECTATION IS THAT YOU TAKE THE LANE GOING DOWNHILL, RIGHT? THIS GETS YOU OUT IN AN ADVANCED LOCATION. YOU CAN GET AT THE FRONT OF THE LINE, TAKE THE LANE IN FRONT OF TRAFFIC. UM, AND THEN WE'VE HEARD, UH, THERE'S A KIND OF A, A, A CHALLENGING AREA UP NEAR WEST STREET WHERE, UM, ON THE NORTHBOUND SIDE OF THE STREET, THE SIDEWALK JUST ENDS KIND OF INTO, UH, SOMEONE'S YARD EFFECTIVELY. UM, AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, UH, OVER THE YEARS AS HOWARD STREET HAS BEEN, UM, KIND OF PAVED OVER, UH, THE CURB AND GUTTER HAS DISAPPEARED. AND, AND SO YOU'VE GOT A SIDEWALK THAT'S BASICALLY AT, AT GRADE WITH THE ROAD, AND IT LEADS TO THIS CONDITION ILLUSTRATED PERFECTLY BY STREET VIEW WHERE, UH, THIS PERSON PARKED ON THE SIDEWALK AND THIS YOUNG MAN IS WALKING LIKE, OH, OKAY, I GUESS I HAVE TO WALK OUT IN THE STREET NOW. UM, SO WE WILL BE CREATING A GRADE, WE'LL BE CONSTRUCTING A NEW CURB AND GUTTER, UH, BRINGING THE ROADWAY DOWN. THERE WILL BE A, A, A, A GRADE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE TWO. UM, AND THEN WE WILL BE, UH, PROHIBITING PARKING CLOSER TO THE WEST STREET INTERSECTION. WE'VE ACTUALLY FOUND THAT WE CAN PROBABLY MINIMIZE PARKING LOSS IN THIS AREA. UM, IT DOES PINCH DOWN. THIS IS GONNA BE A SECTION OF ROADWAY WHERE IF CARS ARE PARKED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET AND YOU HAVE CARS DRIVING THROUGH, THEY'RE GOING TO REALLY HAVE TO SLOW DOWN. AND, UH, IT'S GOING TO KIND OF BE LIKE DRIVING ON, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH DRIVING ON PROSPECT STREET, WHERE IT'S, IT'S WHAT WE CALL YIELD A YIELD FLOW CONDITION WHERE OPPOSING DIRECTIONS OF TRAFFIC PRETTY MUCH CAN'T CLEAR EACH OTHER, SOMEONE'S GOTTA PULL OVER. UM, AND IT'S ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE FRUSTRATING FOR SOME DRIVERS WHO WANT TO GET PLACES QUICKLY, BUT IT'S A GREAT TRAFFIC CALMING, UH, TOOL. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WE WILL, UH, PUT IN PLACE ON THIS SECTION OF HOWARD STREET FROM WEST UP TO THE CURVE. UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE FIND THAT IT'S NOT WORKING WELL, WE COULD ALWAYS COME IN AFTER THE FACT AND PROHIBIT PARKING ALONG, UH, A GREATER, YOU KNOW, ALONG MORE OF THIS STRETCH. BUT FOR THE TIME BEING, WE'RE JUST PLANNING ON PROHIBITING KIND OF NEAR THE WEST STREET INTERSECTION AND, AND SEEING HOW IT DOES. SO THEN MOVING TO LIBERTY STREET, WHERE WE'VE PUT, UH, REALLY A LOT OF, A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO [00:25:01] THIS, UM, JUST GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITIES WE SEE, UH, TO MAKE, TO MAKE SOME REALLY ROBUST CHANGES. UM, AND SO THIS IS A COMMENT THAT WE RECEIVED WHEN WE, UH, DID THE ONLINE SURVEY, UM, UH, ALONG PAIRED WITH ANOTHER GREAT, UM, STREET VIEW IMAGE , UM, JUST SHOWING SORT OF HOW TREACHEROUS IT CAN BE TO NAVIGATE THIS AREA, ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WALKING, UM, WITH KIND OF THE, THE LIMITED SITE DISTANCE AROUND THE CURVE. UM, AND THEN ALSO, UH, UH, A PRETTY, YOU KNOW, A LONG CROSSWALK AND, AND THEN SORT OF AN OPEN RUNWAY THERE FOR ANY NORTHBOUND CARS TO JUST KIND OF FLY ONTO LIBERTY STREET. SO THIS IS WHAT THE INTERSECTION LOOKS LIKE FROM ABOVE, JUST HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE'VE SEEN HERE. WE'VE GOT THE HIGH SPEEDS ENTERING AND EXITING THAT CURVE, LIMITED SITE DISTANCE FOR THE CROSSWALK, MEANING IT'S HARD FOR DRIVERS ON, UH, COMING FROM SIXTH STREET TO SEE PEOPLE WAITING TO USE THE CROSSWALK OR EVEN IN THE CROSSWALK, UM, UH, FOR PEOPLE AT A STREET. SIMILAR SITE DISTANCE CHALLENGES, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT THE RIGHT HOOK. SO FOR PEOPLE BIKING NORTHBOUND ON HOWARD, HAVING THOSE VEHICLES COMING UP BEHIND YOU AND, AND MAKING A QUICK RIGHT ONTO LIBERTY. AND WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD A COLLISION, UH, INVOLVING THAT MOVEMENT FOR SOMEONE BIKING NORTHBOUND ON HOWARD STREET. AND THEN OF COURSE, YEAH, THE HIGH SPEEDS ENTERING LIBERTY STREET. UM, AND THEN IN THE OTHER DIRECTION, JUST, UH, KIND OF A CHALLENGING, A TRICKY LEFT TURN TO MAKE THERE, UH, FROM LIBERTY TO HOWARD. SO, UH, AGAIN, EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE HERE, AND THEN THESE ARE SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE ARE, UH, ENVISIONING FOR THE AREA. SO, UM, WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE, THIS, THIS IS A, UM, THIS WOULD CONVERT LIBERTY STREET TO ONE WAY NORTHBOUND. UM, ONE OF THE BENEFITS THERE IS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO ADD ANGLED PARKING ALONG THE CHURCH FRONTAGE. UM, AND I THINK I'VE GOT THE NUMBERS ON THAT IN MY NEXT SLIDE. UH, BUT ALSO, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE JUST REALLY EATEN UP A LOT OF THAT ASPHALT THAT'S OUT THERE TODAY. UM, SO WE ARE ENVISIONING, UH, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY HAVING THIS ALMOST SERVE AS AN EXTENSION OF THE, OF THE PARK. UM, THIS WOULD BE A LANDSCAPED AREA, UM, AS WOULD ALL OF THESE. UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT, UH, A BULL OUT ON THE, UM, THE, THE, WHAT CORNER WOULD THAT BE? THE SOUTH, SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET. UM, WE'VE GOT A, A MEDIAN ISLAND TO HELP, AGAIN, KIND OF SLOW MOVEMENTS THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE AREA AND ALSO TO, UM, GIVE PEDESTRIANS, UH, A REFUGE. AND THEN, UM, UH, PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY, I SHOULD HAVE LED WITH THIS. WE ALSO WOULD SHIFT THE CROSSWALK LITTLE WAYS TO THE NORTH. THAT'S JUST TO GET BETTER SIGHT DISTANCE, UH, IN BOTH DIRECTIONS FOR DRIVERS AND, AND CROSSWALK USERS. AND THEN OF COURSE, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE TAKEN AWAY THAT LIKE FREE RIGHT ONTO LIBERTY STREET. AND SO NOW THERE'S A MUCH SLOWER, UH, MORE DELIBERATE RIGHT TURN THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE TO, TO MAKE THAT MANEUVER. SO THIS WOULD INCREASE PARKING ALONG THE CHURCH FRONTAGE FROM 16 TO 35 SPACES, AND OBVIOUSLY GREAT UTILITY THERE, NOT ONLY FOR THE CHURCH, BUT JUST SPILL OVER PARKING FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA. UM, AND YOU KNOW, ALL THE IMPACTS THAT WE'VE SEEN, UH, NEAR CROOKED GOAT AND ACME BURGER. UM, AND THEN WE WOULD, UH, STICK WITH THE, THE PARALLEL PARKING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET. WE DID LOOK AT THE IMPACTS THAT THIS WOULD HAVE, UH, FROM A, JUST A CONGESTION STANDPOINT, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT, UM, WE'VE GOT A REALLY, WE'VE GOT REALLY GOOD STREET CONNECTIVITY IN THIS AREA. THAT'S WHAT ENABLES YOU TO SOMETIMES MAKE SOME OF THESE CHANGES. YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE WHEN WE INSTALLED THE TRAFFIC DIVERTER AT, AT FIFTH AND D STREET, UM, RIGHT, YOU'VE GOT A GOOD GRID OF STREETS. SO, UM, IF PEOPLE HAVE TO DIVERT ONE BLOCK, USUALLY IT'S NOT A HUGE DEAL. IT'S NOT VERY IMPACTFUL. UM, SO WE DID, UH, ASK, UH, A TRAFFIC ENGINEERING CONSULTANT, W TRANS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS FOR US AND FIGURE OUT KIND OF WHERE THE TRAFFIC MOVES. UM, IT RESULTS IN, UH, MOST OF THE TRAFFIC, 47% MOVES OVER TO KELLER STREET, UM, 20% MOVES TO HOWARD STREET, AND THE REMAINING TRIPS JUST KIND OF GET DIFFUSED THROUGHOUT THE AREA. UM, AND IT'S, IT LEADS TO A VERY MINIMAL, UH, IT DOESN'T REALLY EVEN INCREASE DELAY AT KIND OF THE KEY INTERSECTIONS, WHICH WOULD BE HOWARD AND WESTERN AND, UM, AND WESTERN AND KELLER DURING, EVEN DURING THE PEAK HOURS WHEN THIS AREA IS AT ITS BUSIEST. SO, YOU KNOW, FOR ANYONE WHO WAS USED TO DRIVING SOUTHBOUND ON THIS BLOCK NOW, INSTEAD THEY'LL JUST GO EITHER OVER TO, UM, KELLER STREET AND THEY CAN EITHER GO TO THEN GO TO A OR GO [00:30:01] DOWN TO B, UM, OR LIKEWISE UP TO HOWARD. AND, AND BASICALLY THE SAME THING. AND THEN THIS IS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING, WE DID HIRE A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO HELP US OUT WITH THIS INTERSECTION. AND SO, UM, WE'VE GOT SOMEONE, UH, GREAT WHO'S, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, WE'VE ALREADY ENGAGED. UM, THE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE IN THIS HOME TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE CHANGES IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE, GOTTEN THEIR FEEDBACK. UM, AND THEN WE ARE ENVISIONING WITH THIS TRYING TO, UM, ALSO ADDRESS, UH, STORM WATER. SO WE ARE LOOKING TO INSTALL GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD, UH, SLOW AND, UH, SINK SOME OF THE STORM WATER THAT'S FLOWING THROUGH THIS AREA, UM, AND, AND TAKE POLLUTANTS OUT OF THE STORM WATER BEFORE IT GOES AND ENTERS OUR, OUR STORM WATER SYSTEM. UM, WE ALSO, I SHOULD MENTION TOO, OUR TEAM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN, WE'VE, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT THIS INTERSECTION, ANOTHER KIND OF IDEA THAT, THAT WE HAVE COME UP WITH SINCE THE LAST COMMUNITY MEETING. WE'VE STARTED LOOKING A LITTLE BIT MORE AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY DO, UM, AN ALWAYS STOP AT THIS INTERSECTION. AND SO I DON'T HAVE A SOLID CONCEPT TO SHARE. WE WILL SHARE ONE OUT WITH THE COMMUNITY ONCE WE HAVE ONE READY. UM, BUT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE, WE WOULD KEEP, UH, SIMILAR GEOMETRICS HERE. UM, YOU KNOW, WE STILL SEE A, A HUGE BENEFIT TO, AGAIN, KIND OF REDUCING THE ASPHALT IN THIS AREA AND JUST THE, UM, IT'S NOT REALLY SERVING MUCH OF A PURPOSE EXCEPT FOR INDUCING SPEEDING. UM, BUT THE, THAT WOULD BRING THE STOP BAR UP, UM, KIND OF TO THIS AREA. AND SO THE CROSSWALK WOULD ACTUALLY END UP SHIFTING BACK CLOSER TO WHERE IT IS TODAY. UH, YOU WOULD HAVE TRAFFIC STOPPED ON HOWARD STREET IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. THERE'D BE ANOTHER STOP BAR DOWN HERE WHERE YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR. AND THEN YOU'D ALSO HAVE A STOP ON A STREET. UH, SO IT WOULD ADD, OBVIOUSLY TO SOME OF THE CONGESTION IN THE AREA, ESPECIALLY PEAK HOUR, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN BACKUPS AT, YOU KNOW, UH, ON HOWARD STREET AT WESTERN AND DOWN, UM, AT SIXTH AND B. BUT, UM, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, THERE DEFINITELY ARE SOME, UM, SOME REAL SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS THERE. SO, UH, AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT A CONCEPT WE WILL, WE WILL DEVELOP AND, AND, UH, CIRCULATE, GET PEOPLE'S THOUGHTS ON, UM, ONCE IT'S READY. AND, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ON THAT TONIGHT OR IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE THOUGHTS ON THAT, WELCOME THOSE COMMENTS AS WELL. ALRIGHT. SO I THINK, YEAH, THAT BRINGS ME TO MY SECOND TO LAST SLIDE. UM, SO AGAIN, GOAL FOR THIS PROJECT IS TO CONSTRUCT, UH, BEGINNING NEXT SPRING, AND THEN THAT'LL PROBABLY RUN INTO THE FALL. AND, UM, AND WE WILL, UH, CONTINUE TO ENGAGE FOLKS THROUGH, UM, EMAILS AND POSTCARDS TO HOWARD STREET RESIDENTS. AND WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE. UH, THANK YOU BJORN. UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE GONNA ASK QUESTIONS. WE'LL HOLD COMMENTS FOR AFTER THE, UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS. UM, GO AHEAD, FRANK. WE'LL START DOWN THERE. UH, GOT IT. UM, SO WE'RE JUST QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. QUESTIONS FOR NOW? SORRY, JUST, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I'LL SAVE MINE FOR COMMENTS. OKAY, JASON, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND SOME FEEDBACK. UM, FOR HOWARD STREET IN GENERAL, UM, I, I REALLY LIKE REFORMATTING THAT STREET BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT I USE ON A REGULAR BASIS AND IS, UH, ESPECIALLY COMING DOWN, HOWARD COMING DOWN THE HILL ACROSS BODEGA WASHINGTON, UM, THAT IS ONE OF THE MORE THOUGHT INDUCING, IF NOT TERRIFYING INTERSECTIONS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE PASSENGERS ON A BIKE. UM, SO I WAS WONDERING IF, IF THERE HAD BEEN SOME THOUGHT PUT INTO THAT, ESPECIALLY ON THE, THE TRIANGLE, YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED THAT, AND I MAY HAVE MISSED IT, BUT, UM, THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION IS, UM, A GO OR HOLD YOUR BREATH KIND OF SITUATION WHERE LIKE YOU REALLY HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO CARRY YOUR SPEED, UM, AND YOU REALLY HAVE TO BE AWARE BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH ACTIVITY HAPPENING. THERE'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A PERIPHERAL OVERLOAD WHEN YOU ARE, UM, AGAIN, DESCENDING DOWN HOWARD TOWARD WASHINGTON THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION. IT'S SOMETHING THAT AS A CYCLIST, UM, I GENERALLY AVOID. UM, AND SO THAT'S MY COMMENT THERE IS, UM, I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THE UPHILL DIRECTION 'CAUSE I DON'T DO THAT VERY MUCH, BUT I DO FIND MYSELF COMING DOWN, UH, HOWARD STREET [00:35:01] OFTEN, UH, WITH PASSENGERS AND IT'S DAUNTING. UM, SO IT'S, IT'S GREAT THAT WE'RE, THAT YOU GUYS ARE, THAT WE'RE PUTTING THOUGHT AND, AND TIME AND RESOURCES TOWARD THIS. UM, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD ABOUT THE LIBERTY STREET ONE-WAY CONVERSION, UM, AS A ONE, IT'S, IT'S, UH, AGAIN, AS A, AS AN AREA THAT IS A, A KIND OF AMORPHOUS AND, AND BIG AND A LOT OF PAVEMENT AS A CYCLIST, YOU KIND OF, YOU'RE, YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT LOST THERE UNLESS YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE GOING. UM, THE ONE THING ONE CONCERN I HAVE IS, AS A CYCLIST, TURNING THAT INTO A ONE WHERE YOU'VE GOT TRAFFIC BACKING OUT AND YOU HAVE THE CURBED TRAFFIC FOR ANYBODY IN THE ROADWAY, A CYCLIST OR, UM, CAR, YOU'RE, YOU'RE MONITORING ESSENTIALLY TWO-WAY TRAFFIC. SO YOU'RE MONITORING THE DOOR SIDE OF PARKING, OF PARKED CARS, AND THEN ALSO, UH, TRAFFIC BACKING OUT AT A PARALLEL. SO IT'S, YOU'VE GOT CARS POTENTIALLY COMING AT YOU FROM AN UNEXPECTED ANGLE. AND I JUST WONDERED WHETHER WITH WHAT THE SAFETY ASSESSMENT WAS AND IF YOU HAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF WHERE THAT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED AND, UM, WHAT, WHAT THE WIDTH OF THE USABLE STREET WOULD BE, UM, WHAT THE MINIMUM WIDTH WOULD BE FOR IT TO BE LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE, A LITTLE BIT SAFER, I GUESS. UM, THOSE ARE THE TWO COMMENTS THAT I HAVE, BUT OTHERWISE THIS LOOKS GREAT. YEAH, THANK YOU. SO YEAH, I THINK AT THE, SO UP AT THE BODEGA INTERSECTION, UM, YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO EXISTING CONDITIONS, WE WILL NOW HAVE BIKE LANES FEEDING INTO THE INTERSECTION IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. SO WHETHER YOU'RE COMING DOWNHILL OR GOING UPHILL, UM, WE HAVE, WE DO HAVE ROOM FOR THAT. UM, AND, AND NOTABLY WE DO, WE WILL ALSO HAVE, UM, CONFLICT ZONE MARKINGS THAT HELP PEOPLE MAKE THAT TRANSITION FROM BIKE LANE. YOU KNOW, WHERE THE BIKE LANE WILL KIND OF SHIFT FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, SHIFT ACROSS THE, TO THE PORK CHOP ISLANDS WHERE THE, WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE MAKING THE RIGHTS, THAT PROBABLY WON'T BE AS IMPACTFUL AND THE DOWNHILL DIRECTION WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE IMPACTFUL IN THE UPHILL DIRECTION. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE A LOT MORE RIGHT TURNS MADE. UM, BUT WE WILL HAVE SOME REALLY CLEAR STRIPING THAT'S ADDED THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, CLEARLY DEFINES THE SPACE WHERE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BIKING SHOULD BE AND WHERE DRIVERS SHOULD EXPECT THEM, UM, TO KIND OF HA MAKE THAT TRANSITION EASIER. UM, BUT YEAH, TO THE, FOR THE DOWNHILL DIRECTION, UM, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN ADDING KIND OF THOSE, THOSE BIKE LANES FEEDING INTO THE INTERSECTION, NOT SURE WHAT WE CAN DO TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THE CROSS TRAFFIC ON BODEGA. UM, MAYBE A, YEAH, I, I, I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S A TRICKY ONE. YEAH, I JUST, I JUST THINK ABOUT LIKE, UM, THE CROSS TRAFFIC ESPECIALLY, BUT I THINK THAT THE OTHER THING, PEOPLE MAKING A RIGHT FROM BODEGA ONTO HOWARD, THAT'S JUST PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, LIKE PEOPLE CROSSING IN WASHINGTON, LIKE POTENTIALLY RUNNING A RED LIGHT. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE THING, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, BUT IT'S THE THING IN FRONT OF YOUR MIND. UM, I ALSO THINK THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE, THE PAVEMENT QUALITY ITSELF MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE, UH, JUST IN THE, IN THE DOWNHILL SECTION. THANK YOU. I THINK THE CHOPPINESS OF THAT ASPHALT IS, MAKES IT B RISK. ALRIGHT. UH, QUESTION FROM ADAM. YEAH. UH, MAYBE JUST A FEW QUESTIONS, UH, TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT DISCUSSION, BJORN, IS YOU CONSIDERED LIKE A ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION SIGNAL, KIND OF LIKE THE VERY INNOVATIVE BIKE SIGNAL THAT YOU CAME UP WITH THAT I USED THREE TIMES A WEEK UP IN SANTA ROSA, WHERE ESSENTIALLY YOU MIGHT ADDRESS THAT MODE CONFLICT. IF YOU JUST HAVE ONE SIGNAL THAT SAYS BICYCLISTS, PEDESTRIANS, THIS IS YOUR CROSSING TIME, 20 SECONDS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HELPS KIND OF GET TO THAT SAFETY 50 LEVEL. UM, SO, UH, PEOPLE, I DON'T DO THAT ROUTE AT ALL, SO I'M OKAY. YEP. I MEAN, PEOPLE BIKING CAN LEGALLY USE THE LEADING PEDESTRIAN INTERVAL. THAT'S ONE THING. UM, AND THAT'S A, I THINK A CALIFORNIA, UH, I THINK THAT'S SPECIFIC TO CALIFORNIA, BUT I COULD BE WRONG. UM, 2, 1, 4, 5, 6. THANK, THERE YOU GO. UM, IT'S GONNA BE A COMMENT FOR LATER. YEAH. UM, WE, UH, BUT THEN YEAH, IF THE PEDESTRIAN PHASE ISN'T ACTIVATED, THEN I GUESS THAT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF GOES AWAY OR RIGHT. OR YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ADVANTAGE FIVE SECONDS OF GO TIME AND THEN YOU'RE JUST YEAH. THE ONLY OTHER, YEAH, THE ONLY THOUGHT OTHER THOUGHT I HAD WAS, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY A NO NO WRITE ON RED, UM, FOR THAT BODEGA TRAFFIC THERE. OKAY. TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT [00:40:01] AND WHAT, WHAT THOSE IMPACTS WILL BE OR GREAT. OKAY. WELL THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. UM, I WAS VERY EXCITED TO SEE THE STORM WATER, UH, GARDEN BEING PROPOSED DOWN BELOW. UM, AND THAT WAS GONNA BE ONE OF MY KIND OF HIGHER LEVEL QUESTIONS, BUT JUST ALSO CONSIDERING WHERE DID YOU CONSIDER, UM, KIND OF STREET TREE OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL? UM, MAYBE PARKING STUDIES, LIKE HOW PARKED OR OVER PARKED UNDER PARKED IS THAT CORRIDOR. UM, COULD THERE BE SOME MORE STREET TREES? BUT I GUESS MAYBE JUST KIND OF A META QUESTION AND CHANNELING DEB IN THE CROWD HERE JUST IS, THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS WHERE WE SEE, UM, ACTUALLY WHERE THERE IS SEWER AND WATER. SO WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS, AND MAYBE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DID IT ALREADY, BUT AN IMPROVED PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH STORM WATER STAFF, UM, STREET TREES STAFF AND FIGURE OUT HOW CAN YOU KIND OF MAXIMIZE THIS CORRIDOR. SO THEN WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR GOALS KIND OF EARLIER ON, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ADD IN, UM, YEAH, STREET TREES, STORMWATER AS KIND OF THOSE OTHER GOALS. I THINK YOU COULD ACTUALLY EVEN ADD IN STORMWATER MITIGATION SINCE YOU HAVE THAT AS ONE OF THE GOALS. UM, BUT YEAH, JUST KIND OF A, A META QUESTION THAT I FEEL LIKE IS ALSO RELEVANT FOR OTHER PROJECTS SIMILAR. IS THERE SOME WAYS THAT YOU COULD ENGAGE WITH MORE? IS THERE, IS IT JUST LIMITED BY FUNDING? YES. YEAH, SO, SORRY, THAT WAS A LOT. UM, WE DO HAVE, WE ARE LOOKING AT TREES AT AT LIBERTY STREET, YOU KNOW, IN THOSE, UH, LANDSCAPED AREAS, WHEREVER WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE AREAS WILL BE DESIGNED AROUND STORM WATER. SOME WILL NOT TAKE IN STORM WATER. UM, SO, OR SOME MIGHT EVEN BE A COMBINATION OF THE TWO. UM, SO THE, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT IS LOOKING AT IT WITH A GOAL OF INCORPORATING TREES WHEREVER SHE THINKS, UM, THEY WILL PERFORM WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY SOME CERTAIN TREES DON'T LIKE HAVING, UM, UH, SUPER WET ROOTS, UH, IN THE WINTER MONTHS. SO, UM, WE WILL, UH, THERE, THERE WILL BE TREES INCORPORATED THERE. IT'LL JUST BE A QUESTION OF KIND OF WHERE THEY GO IN RELATION TO THE STORMWATER FEATURES. UM, AS FOR THE REST OF THE CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY WE DID HAVE A LOT OF, UH, ASPIRATIONS TO INCLUDE STORMWATER FEATURES, UM, AND MORE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR. UH, UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE, WE'RE UP AGAINST A PRETTY, UM, SIGNIFICANT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING TO, UM, KIND OF WHITTLE AWAY AT THE DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT WE'RE INCLUDING JUST TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS PROJECT PENCIL OUT. MM-HMM . UM, THERE'S SO MUCH A DA WORK ON THIS PROJECT THAT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO, UM, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE CHALLENGING TO KEEP IT KIND OF AT, AT, UH, A FUNDING LEVEL THAT WE CAN, UM, THAT WE CAN, THAT WE CAN MANAGE. UM, SO ANY EXTRA KIND OF, THAT DON'T WANT IT TO BE THOUGHT OF AS A, AS A LUXURY ITEM, BUT THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY GONNA BE THE FIRST TO GO. OKAY. RIGHT. UM, WE WILL, YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY THIS, I THINK THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES, YOU KNOW, I'VE TALKED WITH ST. VINCENT'S ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, FOR EXAMPLE, OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR THEM AND FOR OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS TO POSSIBLY, UM, CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, ADDING, ADDING STREET TREES, UH, EITHER, YOU KNOW, BEFORE, DURING, OR AFTER THIS PROJECT. UM, WE ARE KIND OF TESTING OUT SOME DIFFERENT THINGS, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS, UH, CREATING A MECHANISM THROUGH WHICH, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS CAN USE OUR CONTRACTOR TO, UH, REPLACE THEIR SEWER LATERALS, UH, REPAIR THE SIDEWALKS. UM, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT EVOLUTION OF THAT MAYBE COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE YOU'RE ENVISIONING WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING, YOU KNOW, MORE, MORE STREET TREES IN WITH THESE PROJECTS OR THE TREE WELLS. I, YOU KNOW, THAT WORK IS NOT AS, UM, THERE, THERE MAY BE, AGAIN, THAT MAY NOT NEED TO RELY ON OUR, OUR CONTRACTOR TO, TO DO THAT WORK, BUT, UM, UH, IT'S ALL WE'RE IN, WE'RE IN KIND OF THE, UM, WE'RE IN THAT PROCESS OF, OF HAVING THAT SORT OF, THOSE SORT OF FEATURES SORT OF NORMALIZED TO INSTITUTIONALIZE AS PART OF OUR PAVING PROJECTS. OKAY. GREAT. YEAH. AND THEN ONE LAST QUESTION, UH, IT'S REGARDS TO A STREET IN THE A TP. THIS IS SOMEWHAT KIND OF LIKE PART OF THE WIGGLE OF PETALUMA, RIGHT? MM-HMM . IF YOU'RE KIND OF COMING DOWN HOWARD, THEN YOU HAVE TO GO A STREET AND THEN GO DOWN FIFTH STREET, GREENWAY. UM, AND JUST WONDERING IF YOU'VE CONSIDERED ANY OF THOSE INTERACTIONS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU WANT TO IN THE FUTURE, BE PRIORITIZING THAT MOVEMENT, HOW THIS PROJECT CAN KIND OF HELP [00:45:01] PLAN FOR THAT AND ACCOMMODATE THAT FUTURE MOVEMENT. YEAH, I THINK IT, I THINK IT'S, IT'S PRETTY SOLID ON THE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE EIGHT, THE FIFTH TO HOWARD, UH, SORT OF NORTHBOUND SIDE RIGHT NOW. UM, 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE BIKE LANES PICK UP RIGHT THERE AT THE INTERSECTION. UM, THAT SHOULD BE PRETTY SEAMLESS. UH, I DO THINK, YEAH, WE PROBABLY NEED TO DIAL THAT IN THOSE LEFT TURNS FOR ANYONE GOING IN THE OTHER DIRECTION THOUGH, COMING DOWN HOWARD MAKING THE LEFT ONTO A MM-HMM . TO THEN GET ONTO FIFTH. UM, SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT COMMENT. THAT'S ALL. ALRIGHT, DO I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRESENTATION, AMBER? YES, YES. UM, THE BULL BELTS, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SUCH A NUMEROUS NUMBER GOING UP HOWARD STREET IS THAT STRICTLY FOR PEDESTRIANS? I KNOW AS A CYCLIST, THE ONE PLACE I CAN BRING BALL BOUTS TO MY MIND IS AT THE OAK STREET AT THE NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ON THE BOULEVARD WHERE IT NARROWS THE STREET WAY DOWN. AND AS A CYCLIST, I HAVE TO GO FULLY INTO THE LANE IN FRONT OF THE CAR TO CROSS THE BOULEVARD. UM, IT'S ARE THEY FOR A DA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT MANY OF THEM. TELL ME MORE. YEAH, SO, UH, WE NEVER PUT BULL BOUTS, YOU KNOW, IN A BIKE LANE, RIGHT? IF THERE'S A BIKE LANE, THE BULL BOUT CAN GO UP TO, YOU KNOW, THE EDGE OF THE BIKE LANE, BUT IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE IN THE ACTUAL BIKE LANE. SO IN A CASE LIKE, UM, PETA BOULEVARD NORTH WHERE YOU HAVE A PARKING LANE AND THEN THE VEHICLE LANE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S, THERE'S NO BIKE LANE THERE. SO THE EXPECTATION IS THAT SOMEONE BIKING IS KIND OF RIDING IS, IS EITHER TAKING THE LANE OR RIDING ON KIND OF THE RIGHT EDGE OF THE LANE. AND SO THE, THE BULB OUT REALLY SHOULDN'T INTERFERE WITH A BICYCLIST IN THAT, IN THAT INSTANCE. UM, BUT I CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU DO HAVE LIKE A FOG, THERE'S A LINE THERE THAT'S KIND OF DELINEATING THE PARKING LANE FROM THE VEHICLE LANE. IT MIGHT KIND OF LOOK LIKE A BIKE LANE, BUT IT'S, IT'S TECHNICALLY NOT. SO, UM, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE SOME SOME CONTEXT FOR OUR THINKING WHEN, WHEN THE BOUTS ARE DESIGNED, UM, SO YEAH, THE BENEFITS ARE REALLY INTENDED FOR, YOU KNOW, PRIMARILY AIMED AT PEDESTRIANS BECAUSE YOU'RE PUTTING THEM OUT INTO A MORE VISIBLE LOCATION WHERE DRIVERS CAN MORE EASILY SEE THEM, RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT HIDING BEHIND A PARKED CAR, UM, YOU KNOW, OBSTRUCTED THEIR, THEIR VIEW OF THE DRIVERS AND VICE VERSA IS NOT OBSTRUCTED BY A PARKED CAR. UM, YOU'VE ALSO SHORTENED THE CROSSING DISTANCE, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY THE, THE AREA WHERE THEY'RE BASICALLY EXPOSED TO THE, TO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC. UM, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE SO MANY BOLT OUTS ON HOWARD STREET IS WE'VE ACTUALLY NEEDED THAT EXTRA REAL ESTATE, UM, TO MAKE A DA COMPLIANT CURB RAMPS, UM, UH, JUST GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A SUPER, YOU KNOW, UH, A SUPER STEEP, UM, OR A REALLY SHORT CONSTRAINED AREA TO GO FROM SIDEWALK LEVEL TO STREET LEVEL, UH, AND MAKE THE RAMP WORK. UM, AND SO, AND THEN YEAH, AND THEN MAKING STORMWATER FLOWS WORK, IT ALL KIND OF FACTORS INTO THE DECISION MAKING. THANK YOU. YEAH. DAVID, QUESTIONS ON THE PRESENTATION? YEAH. UH, GREAT PRESENTATION. I'LL SAVE MY COMMENTS FOR LATER. UM, ON ALL THE CROSSWALKS, I'M WONDERING, UH, ARE THOSE INTENDED TO HAVE FLASHING BEACONS OR SOME YEAH, SOME, NO. YEAH, I THINK AT THE VERY LEAST, UH, FLASHING BEACONS ON HERE, LET ME MY GO BACK TO THAT CROSSWALK SLIDE. I, ALRIGHT, SO, UM, DEFINITELY ON THE SOUTH END OF THE CORRIDOR, WHEREVER WE HAVE AN UNCONTROLLED CROSSWALK, MEANING NO STOP SIGN, NO TRAFFIC SIGNAL, UM, IN KIND OF A BUSIER AREA. SO THOSE WOULD BE, UH, LIBERTY BASSETT WESTERN IS STOP CONTROLLED, SO NO BEACON THERE. UM, AND, AND HARRIS STREET. UH, AND THEN I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY MAKE THE ARGUMENT FOR, UM, UNION STREET UP AT ST. VINCENT'S ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. UM, PROSPECT ISN'T ALWAYS STOP OAK ISN'T ALWAYS STOP, UH, KENT IS NOT STOP CONTROLLED, BUT, UM, THERE'S A LOT LESS TRAFFIC VOLUME UP THERE. SO THAT'S THE AREA WHERE I WOULD SAY, UH, MAYBE NO, I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY OPEN TO COMMENTS ON, ON THIS WHEN I, THE SAME QUESTION WAS ASKED AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND PEOPLE SEEM TO KIND OF AGREE, PROBABLY NOT NECESSARY UP THERE MM-HMM . BUT, UM, BUT DEFINITELY, UH, I WOULD SAY UNION STREET SOUTH. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S GREAT. YEAH, I JUST, I BROUGHT THAT UP BEFORE [00:50:01] JUST A GENERAL CONDITION, I THINK ISSUE AROUND THE, THE CITY THAT WE THINK WE NEED MORE FLASHING BEACONS, ESPECIALLY MAJOR STREETS LIKE THE BOULEVARD, ET CETERA. YEAH, THEY ARE, THEY ARE GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE. WE JUST PUT SOME IN, WE'VE PUT A COUPLE IN AND, UH, THEY'RE UP TO 24,000 FOR A PAIR. SO IT'S GETTING, IT'S GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT IT, WE AGREE, THEY ARE IMPORTANT. COOL. OKAY. UM, AS FAR AS THE, YOU ASKED US FOR FEEDBACK ON THE BIKE LANE, AND I'M CURIOUS, UM, WAS THERE ANY SCENARIO WHERE YOU LOOKED AT DOING BUFFERED BIKE LANES THE WHOLE WAY IN BOTH DIRECTIONS? I KNOW IT'S PARKING REMOVAL, BUT IS THAT AT ALL POSSIBLE? UM, WE HAVE NOT LOOKED AT PARKING REMOVAL WITH THIS PROJECT. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, IT'S DEFINITELY A, A TRADE OFF TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. UM, AND, UH, YEAH, I MEAN, IF, IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT A COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE US TO, TO LOOK AT MORE STRONGLY, WE, WE DEFINITELY CAN. YEAH, I GUESS MY FEEDBACK WOULD BE, AGAIN, IN THE, IN THE SPIRIT OF THE A TP AND HAVING ALL AGES AND ABILITIES, UM, HAVING ONE SIDE WITH A DOOR ZONE AND HAVING THE OTHER SIDE WITH, UH, IN TRAFFIC IS NOT ALL AGES AND ABILITIES. UM, SO I WOULD, I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE TO KNOW IF THAT'S THEORETICALLY POSSIBLE AND EVEN LOOKING AT DOING, UH, UH, THE CENTER LINE REMOVAL AND BRINGING IN THE, THE EDGES, IF THAT CREATES ANY ADDITIONAL SPACE THAT CAN BE LEVERAGED. UM, LET'S SEE. UH, KIND OF, UH, FOLLOWING ONTO WHAT ADAM SAID, UM, I THINK THE, WE DEFINITELY SHOULD LOOK AT THE IMPACT TO KELLER STREET, UH, WITH THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC. I THINK THAT'S ALREADY NOT IN GREAT CONDITION. PAINT HAS FADED. UM, IT'S ALREADY KIND OF A ROUGH END TO THE FIFTH STREET BIKE BOULEVARD TO DOWNTOWN. SO IF THAT'S GONNA BE SEEING IT INCREASE TRAFFIC AND BUSIER AND YOU'RE WANTING TO DIVERT BIKES OVER THERE, UM, IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO SEAL OR WHATEVER NEEDS TO HAPPEN BEFORE PAINTING, UM, BEFORE GIVEN THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE, UM, BEFORE THIS PROJECT'S ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED, I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY, UM, IMPORTANT TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT. NOT LIKE I, IT'S A BIG DEAL, I THINK, TO GO ONE WAY ON LIBERTY, AND I'M ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. I THINK IT'S GONNA FEEL LIKE A MINI KENTUCKY STREET WITH THE SAME CONDITIONS. I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT THE CARS BACKING UP AND THE, YOU KNOW, PARALLEL PARKED ON THE RIGHT SIDE, BUT I, I THINK IT'S, IT, I I WOULD ASSUME IT HAS A SIMILAR FEEL TO, UM, KENTUCKY STREET. UM, BUT THINKING ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS FROM A TRAFFIC AND FLOW STANDPOINT, IF YOU'RE REMOVING A TWO WAY AND GOING TO A ONE WAY THERE, UM, AND ASSUMING THAT MOST OF THOSE VEHICLES AND BIKES ARE GONNA END UP ON KELLER. UM, UH, ONE MORE QUESTION IS JUST WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO SEE, UH, THE FULL ENGINEERING LAYOUT OF THOSE SECTIONS? I THINK WERE REALLY HELPFUL. I THINK JUST TO SEE THE FULL, UM, LAYOUT BEFORE IT'S FINALIZED WOULD BE GREAT. UM, I GUESS THIS MIGHT BE A COMMENT, BUT I, I'LL PHRASE IT AS A QUESTION. UM, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE, WHERE THE LAYOUT IS OF THE 19, UH, ADDITIONAL SLID ANKLE PARKING STALLS, IF IT'D BE POSSIBLE TO USE ANY OF THOSE, UM, KIND OF CROSSHATCHED SECTIONS NEXT TO THE PARKING FOR, UH, BIKE PARKING. I KNOW THAT'S A, MAYBE A BUDGET IMPACT, BUT I THINK, UM, FOR, UM, I THINK IT'S A, UH, WILL BE A NICE, IF NOTHING ELSE STATEMENT, BUT ALSO LIKE, WE NEED MORE BIKE PARKING DOWNTOWN. UM, BUT TO SAY LIKE, IF WE'RE ADDING 19 CAR STALLS, IF WE CAN ADD, YOU KNOW, 19 BIKE STALLS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THERE'S A LOT OF UNUSED SPACE AND I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF ADDING BIKE RACKS INTO THAT TYPE OF LOCATION ON OTHER STREETS AROUND TOWN. UH, SO JUST TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE DESIGN FROM THE GET GO, I THINK WOULD BE, WOULD BE GREAT AND MAKE THAT WHOLE AREA HAVE MORE OF A, UM, MIXED MODALITY FEEL TO IT, I GUESS FROM THE BEGINNING. SO THANK YOU. GOOD QUESTIONS. UH, JONNA QUESTIONS ON THE PRESENTATION? NO QUESTIONS. JUST COMMENTS LATER. OKAY. BRIAN. UM, AND LOOKING AT A LOT OF THE REST OF THE MAP, ESPECIALLY ON THE NORTHERN END, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF IT POTENTIAL FOR REJIGGERING SOME OF THE WEIRD STOP SIGNS AND CROSSWALKS FOR THE REST, OR AT LEAST THE DESIGN OF THE CROSSWALKS SINCE THEY SEEM TO GO MOSTLY DIAGONAL AS OPPOSED TO STRAIGHT ACROSS. IS THAT PART OF THE PLAN AS WELL? YEAH. THINKING ESPECIALLY AROUND LIKE OAK STREET AND PARTICULARLY THE, UM, CROSS, UM, AREA AT KENT, HOWARD AND GALLAND. YEAH, GREAT QUESTION. UH, WE WILL BE STRAIGHTENING OUT EVERY CROSSWALK THAT WE CAN. UH, OAK STREET'S A GREAT EXAMPLE WHERE TAKES A, NOT REALLY, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE THINKING [00:55:01] BEHIND THE LONG DIAGONAL THERE. UM, SO WE'RE GONNA, IT'LL BE PERPENDICULAR WITH HOWARD STREET AND UH, WE'LL MAKE IT AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE AND IS SOMETHING SIMILAR GONNA BE HAPPENING? UH, AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED JUST BECAUSE OF, UM, THE TYPE OF STREET THAT IT IS, BUT, UM, ALONG, UH, WASHINGTON AND HOWARD, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THAT WOULD MATCH UP WITH THE LIGHTS AND THAT'S GENERALLY WHERE YOU WANT CROSSWALKS TO BE, I THINK. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT DOES CREATE SOME OF THOSE SIMILAR SORT OF ISSUES. YEAH, THAT ONE. UH, NOT SURE THERE'S MUCH WE CAN DO THERE. OKAY. UM, WITH JUST, IT'S, YEAH, IT'S A, IT'S A FUNKY INTERSECTION THE WAY THE STREETS ARE KIND OF YEP. OFF SKEWED. AND THEN, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HAD TO BE REALLY MINDFUL OF, THERE ARE TURNING MOVEMENTS FOR, UH, TRUCKS AND FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE. AND THAT KIND OF DICTATES WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT FOOTPRINT YOU END UP WITH. BUT, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE STRIPE, WE'LL TAKE IT AS FAR AS WE CAN WITH STRIPING TO JUST HOPEFULLY, UM, KIND OF CLEAN IT UP THERE. BUT, UM, I, I DON'T THINK THE, YOU WOULD SEE MUCH OF A CHANGE TO ANY OF THE ACTUAL STREET WIDTH OR THE, THE FOOTPRINT OF THOSE ISLANDS OR ANYTHING. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MY TURN. UM, COUPLE QUESTIONS WHERE THERE ARE THREE WAY INTERSECTIONS WITH BOUTS. DO THE BOUTS GO ON BOTH SIDES, INCLUDING THE SIDE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A, A SIDE STREET? UH, I, I'LL, I'LL NEED TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE ENGINEERING DRAWINGS FOR THAT. 'CAUSE IT'S A LOT OF IT'S DICTATED BY, UM, STORMWATER. UH, AND THEN ALSO JUST, YEAH, THERE'S JUST OTHER, THERE'S KIND OF, AGAIN, KIND OF FUNKY CONDITIONS OUT THERE. SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF ANY TWO BULB OUTS ON THIS PROJECT ARE ALIKE. IT'S, THEY'VE ALL BEEN INDIVIDUALLY DESIGNED, THAT SOUNDS UNIQUE TO MEET THE CORNER'S CONDITIONS. THERE ARE SOME CASES, UM, PROSPECT STREET'S A GREAT EX PROSPECT, AND HOWARD IS A GREAT EXAMPLE WHERE YOU'VE GOT A REALLY WIDE STREET ON HOWARD STREET, BUT PROSPECT, THERE'S NO ROOM ON PROSPECT FOR BULL BOUTS. SO YOU END UP WITH KIND OF AN ASYMMETRICAL BULB BOUT THAT WILL NOT WRAP AROUND THE CORNER. UM, IF THAT KIND OF HELPS EXPLAIN. YEAH, IT'S ALREADY SHORT THERE. YEAH, I GET IT. UM, OKAY. UM, COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT, LIKE, THRESHOLDS. YOU ON THE, THE VERY NORTHERN SECTION, UH, YOU HAD THAT GREAT STREET VIEW IMAGE. YOU, UH, YOUR PRESENTATION NOTED THAT PARKING WAS PROHIBITED ALONG SECTIONS DEEMED TOO NARROW. IS THAT A, A KNOWN METRIC OR IS IT MORE KIND OF QUALITATIVE LIKE OH, WE THINK IT'S TOO NARROW HERE? YEAH, WELL INITIALLY WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, YOU KNOW, OKAY, WE'VE GOT EIGHT FEET PARKING ON BOTH SIDES, OR ASSUME ABOUT EIGHT FOOT, UH, EIGHT FEET FOR A TYPICAL PARKED CAR AND THEN TWO 10 FOOT, UM, VEHICLE LANES. AND WE'RE DEFINITELY SHY OF THAT. UH, I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT 28. I, I DON'T WANNA BE TO GIVE THE WRONG NUMBER. UM, I KNOW WE'RE DEFINITELY SHY OF THAT, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT, UM, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE, KIND OF THE, THE GUIDANCE ON, UH, THESE YIELD FLOW TYPE STREETS. UM, AND, AND ALSO JUST KNOWING, YOU KNOW, AROUND PETALUMA, WE HAVE STREETS LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, NOT PROSPECT STREET, UM, F STREET. THERE'S, THERE'S DEFINITELY SECTIONS OF STREET WHERE YOU'RE NOT WIDE ENOUGH REALLY FOR TWO, TWO OPPOSING DIRECTIONS OF TRAFFIC TO KIND OF CLEAR EACH OTHER. AND, UM, SO I THINK THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S WHERE WE LANDED IS LET'S JUST TRY IT OUT AND WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND MODIFY IT LATER. UM, I WANNA SAY THE NUMBER THAT'S COMING TO MIND, I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT 16 FEET THAT WOULD BE LEFT OVER IN BETWEEN PARKED CARS IF CARS WERE PARKED ON BOTH SIDES. UM, BUT I CAN, I CAN DOUBLE CHECK THAT. YEAH. YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, AS, AS SOMEONE, AS A CHILD ON THAT SECTION OF ROAD AID IT ON MY BIKE AGAINST A FENCE BECAUSE THERE WERE CARS UP ON THE SIDEWALK, UH, YEAH, I'M SENSITIVE TO THAT. AND UH, REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF, OF SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE STREET IS TOO NARROW FOR, FOR PARKING ON ONE SIDE. UM, AND UH, YEAH, HOWEVER THAT'S DEFINED, I'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT DEFINED MORE, UM, YEAH, MORE BROADER DEFINITION. UM, 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT. UM, YIELD FLOW IS THE STREET THAT I WANNA LIVE ON, ON. UM, AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO LIVE ON A STREET LIKE THAT WHERE, UM, CARS ARE GOING CAREFULLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO. UM, UH, AND THEN THIS IS KIND OF SIMILAR QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED THE STUDY DONE DOWN, UM, UH, NOT PROSPECT, UH, LIBERTY AND, UH, THE MINIMAL INCREASE IN DELAY. ONE SECOND, I WOULD CONSIDER INSIGNIFICANT. IS THERE SOME THRESHOLD THERE WHEN YOU'RE DOING THOSE STUDIES ON WHAT IS AN INSIGNIFICANT DELAY VERSUS WHAT WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, OH, WE, WE NEED TO KEEP IT BOTH DIRECTIONS? UM, NO, WE JUST, I MEAN, HONESTLY, WE, UH, THERE MAY, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME ENG TRAFFIC ENGINEERS OR SOME CITIES [01:00:01] MIGHT HAVE A LEVEL OF SERVICE METRICS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO, WE DON'T TRYING TO MEET. UM, WE'RE NOT REALLY TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION ANYMORE. OF COURSE, WE NEVER WANT TO, UM, INDUCE, YOU KNOW, A, A TON OF DELAY. UM, THAT BEING SAID, UH, WE JUST FELT THE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DUE DILIGENCE AND, AND UH, AND, AND SEE WHAT, WHAT IT WOULD RESULT IN SO THAT WE HAD SOMETHING QUANTITATIVE THAT WE COULD COME BACK WITH AND JUST, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY DEMONSTRATE LIKE, LOOK, IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. UM, AND IT'S VERY CLEARLY NOT JUST BASED ON THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT INSIGHT. THANK YOU. UM, OKAY, THAT IS ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS. I NOW OPEN, UH, THIS ITEM, UH, THE HOWARD STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, OPEN TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. SO THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE SO ALREADY, PLEASE FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD AND BRING IT TO THE CLERK. THANK YOU. AND, UH, AND HAVE WE RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? UH, OUTSIDE OF THE UM, THERE ARE TWO PRIOR, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM. OKAY, THANK YOU. WE PROCEED THOSE. UM, ALRIGHT, INTERN, UH, MARIO AQUITA. HI, I'M MARIO AQUITA. I LIVE AT HOWARD STREET ACROSS FROM THE, UH, SCHOOL AND, UM, I HADN'T SEEN THE LIBERTY, UH, STREET, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AND NOW I HAVE STREET ENV BECAUSE I'D REALLY RATHER LIVE THERE, UH, BECAUSE IT HAS SOME OF THE FEATURES THAT IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT HOWARD HAS WHERE WE ARE. AND I'M HOPING THAT MAYBE WE COULD REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT. REALLY IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SAFETY ON THE STREET, THE, THEIR SPEED, PRETTY FAST CARS GOING BOTH WAYS. SO IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT SKINNY IN THE STREET A BIT MORE WITH, WITH, UH, BIKE LANES ON BOTH SIDES, THAT'D BE A GREAT IDEA IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. UM, YOU KNOW, BEYOND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE ACTUAL BULB OUTS ARE GREAT. UH, SOLUTION. I THINK THAT WOULD HELP A LOT. IF THERE WAS ELEVATED SORT OF CROSSWALKS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I KNOW THAT MIGHT BE EXPENSIVE. FINALLY, I'LL JUST MENTION THE, UM, THE, THE DRAINS, THE, THE STORM DRAINS. I KNOW WE'RE NOT PLANNING ANY, BUT RIGHT NOW IT IS DISASTROUS AS IT IS BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE ONE STORM DRAIN ON ALL THE WAY DOWN THE HILL ON HOWARD. AND WHEN IT RAINS HARD, IF ANYTHING HAPPENS TO THAT STORM DRAIN, EVERYTHING WASHES ARE OUR TRASH CANS WASHED DOWN THE STREET, ET CETERA. ALL KINDS OF HORRIBLE THINGS HAPPEN. SO I THINK IT, IT'S JUST SOME THINGS THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW THAT WE WON'T HAVE, MAYBE AGAIN IN OUR LIFETIME TO REALLY DO THE THINGS RIGHT. AND IF WE COULD KIND OF TAKE THAT, THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS WE SEE ON LIBERTY THAT EVEN WITH ISLANDS, ET CETERA ON HOWARD TO SLOW THINGS DOWN, THAT WOULD BE REALLY OPPRESSIVE. I HAVE TO SAY. I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT ARE ON THE PLAN ARE GREAT AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY ALL OF IT IS NEEDS TO BE RETHOUGHT, BUT I THINK THERE COULD BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THERE. THANKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, NEXT, UH, INVITE VALERIE BEMAN. HI, I AM VALERIE. I LIVE WITH MARIO ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SCHOOL AND I SEE FREQUENTLY PEOPLE SPEEDING DOWN THE STREET. AND SO I'M WORRIED WITH THE, UM, CHANGES THAT BJORN AND HIS PROJECT WILL BE BRINGING TO THE HOWARD WASHINGTON INTERSECTION THAT COMBINED WITH THE NICE, SLICK, SMOOTH PAVEMENT THAT'S GONNA GO IN. UM, THE SPEEDING WILL BE EVEN MORE SEVERE THAN IT IS NOW. I'VE WITNESSED CROSSING GUARDS FOR THE SCHOOL, YELLING AT DRIVERS TO SLOW DOWN WHEN THEY'VE GOT THEIR SIGN UP, YOU KNOW, TO STOP, ET CETERA. SO AGAIN, MAYBE SOME, UH, PADDLES IN THE CROSSWALK. UM, TREES IN THE BULL BELTS WOULD BE IDEAL AND I'D BE HAPPY TO HELP WITH SOME SORT OF NEIGHBORHOOD CROWDFUNDING TO GET SOME TREES GOING. UM, OR UH, CHICANES SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE. OH, I MEAN, A MEDIAN WITH TREES WOULD BE UNREAL, BUT EVEN JUST A LITTLE CHICANE WOULD HELP A LOT, I THINK. UM, BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT THIS CLEAR ROADWAY AND THEY SEE THE LIGHT AND THEY SEE IT CHANGING AND THEY JUST ARE GONNA HIT THE GAS. UM, ESPECIALLY WITH NOW, THEY'RE GONNA BE WAITING LONGER [01:05:01] TO KEEP GOING OR TO TURN SO, UH, WITH THE CHANGES. SO, UM, IF THERE COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PUSHING, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND MONEY FOR THESE THINGS, A GRANT OR SOMETHING, BUT IT'S SUCH A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY. MY HOUSE IS GOING ON 120 YEARS OLD. I THINK IT'LL PROBABLY BE 220 YEARS OLD BEFORE HOWARD IS DONE. AGAIN, THIS IS SUCH A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT RIGHT TO HELP IMPROVE THE SAFETY FOR PEDESTRIANS, FOR DRIVERS, FOR BICYCLISTS, FOR SCOOTERS. I MEAN, PARENTS HAVE THEIR KIDS RIDE THEIR BIKES ON THEIR SIDEWALKS BECAUSE THE STREET'S NOT SAFE. SO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE IDEAL AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, NEXT I INVITE BRUCE HAGEN UP TO THE MICROPHONE. GOOD EVENING. I SEE A LOT OF STUFF IN HERE I LIKE AND IT'S GREAT. WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON ALL THESE PROJECTS. UM, AS FAR AS THE TREES ARE CONCERNED, UH, IF THERE'S SOME WAY TO LEAVE A SPACE THERE OR DON'T PUT IN ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE REMOVAL IN ORDER TO PUT A TREE THERE. EVEN IF THE TREE DOESN'T GO IN RIGHT AWAY, YOU HAVE A BIG OPEN SPOT THERE AND SAY FUTURE TREE, YOU'LL GET A TREE PRETTY DARN QUICK AND YOU WON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. UM, I LIKE THINKING ABOUT THE, A PILL FROM BODEGA, THE BIKE LANES AND UM, ESPECIALLY, UH, DAVID'S COMMENT ABOUT, UH, MADE ME THINK ABOUT WHAT IS THE DESIGN SPEED, WHAT'S THE TARGET SPEED, WHAT DO WE WANT CARS TO DO WHEN THEY'RE COMING DOWN THAT HILL? WE DON'T WANT THEM BARRELING. UH, IF, IF WE SAY, WELL, IDEALLY THEY'D BE GOING 12 MILES AN HOUR 'CAUSE THAT'S ABOUT AS FAST AS MY GRANDDAUGHTER 8-YEAR-OLD IS GOING TO GO. AND I WOULDN'T WANT HER TO BE OUT TRYING TO, UH, TAKE THE LANE WITH CARS HAVING THE EXPECTATION OF GOING 10 OR 20 MILES AN HOUR FASTER THAN SHE'S GOING. SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING BECAUSE I HONESTLY THINK IF THE DESIGN SPEED THERE IS 15 AND THE ACTUAL SPEED IS 15 AND THERE'S SOME MECHANISM FOR ENFORCEMENT, UH, CERTAINLY FOR THE DESIGN THAT WOULD, THE DESIGN WOULD LIMIT THE SPEED BY ITSELF. AND WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE, THE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE FOR THAT. IF IT MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE A BIT AND SAY, WE DON'T NEED 20 FEET FOR DRIVING LANES, WE CAN GET BY WITH 18. IS THERE A LAW THAT REQUIRES 20? OR ARE WE WORRIED ABOUT BEING SUED, UH, BY SOMEBODY IF THEY CAN'T GO FAST ENOUGH? UH, PART OF ME WANTS TO SAY, SCREW 'EM. IF THEY WANNA, THEY NEED THAT 12 SECONDS IN THEIR DAY THAT BADLY THAT THEY'RE PUTTING PEOPLE'S LIVES AT RISK, THEN THEY SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT. SO JUST WANT TO TRY TO BUST OUT OF THE ENVELOPE A BIT ON THAT. AND OTHERWISE, AND I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING THERE AT THAT INTERSECTION WITH ALL OF THE, UH, VEGETATION AND ASPHALT REDUCTION, BUT BOY, WHENEVER WE HAVE A CHANCE TO REDUCE ASPHALT, NOT ONLY ARE WE MAKING THE STREET COOLER MORE BEAUTIFUL, BETTER TO HANG OUT IN WITH ONE OF OUR LITTLE PARKLETS, UH, BUT WE'RE ALSO REDUCING FUTURE MAINTENANCE COSTS 'CAUSE IT'S THAT MUCH LESS PAVING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE, UH, SLURRING OR GOD KNOWS WHAT. SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I LOVE THE WORK YOU'RE DOING. KEEP IT UP. THANK YOU. UH, NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. UH, JU UH, NATASHA JULIANA. HELLO EVERYONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M NATASHA JULIANA WITH COOL PETALUMA, THE CLIMATE ACTION ORGANIZATION IN TOWN HERE. UM, AND I ALSO HAPPEN TO LIVE ON THE CORNER OF HOWARD AND PROSPECT. SO I HAVE, UH, DUAL INTERESTS. UM, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE PLANS THAT WE'VE SEEN TONIGHT. I'VE BEEN AT A COUPLE OF THE WORKSHOPS AND MEETINGS PRIOR, SO NICE TO SEE IT MOVING FORWARD. I WANTED TO BRING UP ONE ISSUE THAT I MENTIONED AT THE WORKSHOP, BUT JUST TO KEEP IT ON THE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE FRONT OF MIND IN CASE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS. I KNOW FUNDING IS AN ISSUE THESE DAYS, BUT CITIES LIKE IRVINE AND DAVIS ARE EXPERIMENTING WITH COOLER PAVEMENT, SO COOL PAVEMENTS TO HELP REDUCE THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT, WHICH IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT FOR BIKE BICYCLES AND PEDESTRIANS CONSIDERING THAT WE'RE OUTSIDE IN THAT TEMPERATURE. THERE'S THESE SOLAR REFLECTIVE COATINGS, YOU KNOW, AS WE ALL HAVE SEEN WITH, WHEN YOU PUT DOWN BRAND NEW ASPHALT OR SLURRY SEAL, IT'S ACTUALLY VERY HOT. UH, BERKELEY STUDY SHOWED THAT EVEN ON A 72 DEGREE, DEGREE DAY, THE ASPHALT WAS AT 138 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT AND THE COOLER SURFACE WAS AT 107 DEGREES. SO WITH CLIMATE CHANGE AND ALL THE CRAZY HEAT WAVES, WE'VE BEEN LUCKY, KNOCK ON WOOD THIS LAST YEAR OR TWO HERE, BUT THE REST OF THE WORLD IS LITERALLY ON FIRE. SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP BRING DOWN THE TEMPERATURE, ESPECIALLY WHEN [01:10:01] WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND WE'RE DOING NEW PAVING, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. UM, AND I KNOW THAT TREES AND GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE FANTASTIC AS WELL. UM, I CAN SAY I CAN AGREE WITH VALERIE. I SIT ON MY PORCH AND WATCH CARS BLOW THROUGH THE, THE INTERSECTION THERE. AND I ALSO WATCH KIDS TRYING TO GET TO SCHOOL, CROSSING THE CROSSWALK WITH GIGANTIC SUV BUMPERS BLOCKING THEIR VIEW. SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE SOME BULL OUTS AND CHANGES TO THE CROSSWALKS. I AM, UM, CURIOUS TO SEE IF THERE IS A WAY FOR PROPERTY OWNERS TO HELP WITH GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE TREES OR, UM, SOME KIND OF S SWALES. I HAVE ALSO SEEN, LIKE, UH, MARIO SAID, THE STORM WATER RUNNING. I HAVE VIDEOS OF THE WATER RUNNING DOWN HOWARD STREET AT A BREAKNECK SPEED HITTING BARRIERS AND JUST LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, SPLASHING UP INTO THE AIR. AND SO WITH OUR COMING EL, YOU KNOW, SUPER EL NINO AND CRAZY STORMS, IF WE CAN HELP TAKE CARE OF THAT, I WOULD BE HELP, YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO HELP DO SOMETHING IN MY, IN FRONT OF MY PLACE AT HOWARD AND PROSPECT. UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT LIGHT CHANGE AT BODEGA AND WASHINGTON. THAT'S GONNA BE FANTASTIC. I CAN'T WAIT FOR US TO NOT HAVE TO LIKE, MAKE A DEAL WITH THE PERSON ACROSS FROM US WHO'S GONNA TURN FIRST. SO I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, NEXT, UH, NATHAN SPINDEL, PLEASE. HELLO. I'D LIKE TO ECHO WHAT MARIO AND VALERIE SAID WHO LIVE ACROSS FROM ST. VINCENT'S. UM, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT SPEEDS ON THE CORRIDOR. AS YOU KNOW, UM, HOWARD IS KIND OF LIKE A MINI HIGHWAY LEADING UP TO THE MAJOR HIGHWAY OF WASHINGTON. UM, SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO REDUCE, UH, VEHICLE SPEEDS ON THAT CORRIDOR WILL HELP SAVE LIVES AND REDUCE, UM, INJURIES. UM, I WANTED TO REITERATE THE COMMENT ABOUT MEDIAN PADDLES. THEY SEEM LIKE A REALLY CHEAP, EFFECTIVE ELEMENT. WE'VE BEEN DEPLOYING ACROSS TOWN, YOU KNOW, THE SIGN RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET THAT FORCES CARS TO NEGOTIATE AND MOVE SLOWER. UM, THEY DON'T REQUIRE ANY ELECTRICITY. THEY REQUIRE LITTLE MAINTENANCE WHEN THEY GET KNOCKED DOWN, BUT, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THOSE ACROSS THE CORRIDOR BECAUSE THIS IS A PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR CONNECTING PARKS SCHOOL, UM, DOWNTOWN URBAN ENVIRONMENT AND THERE'S LOTS OF PEOPLE ON FOOT AND ON BIKE. UM, I WAS EVEN RECENTLY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE REALLY CONSERVATIVE STATE OF WYOMING AND THEY HAD MEDIAN PADDLES EVERYWHERE. LIKE IT'S A CAR CENTRIC PLACE AND THEY WERE EVERYWHERE SLOWING TRAFFIC. AND I THINK WHERE, UM, WHERE THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM IN THE STREET, IT'D BE AN INTERESTING EXPERIMENT TO SEE, UM, HOW THOSE ELEMENTS COULD HELP. UM, ABOUT THE, UM, QUESTION RAISED ABOUT HOW CYCLISTS CAN, UM, USE THE SIGNAL EFFECTIVELY AT HOWARD AND WASHINGTON. ONE INTERESTING TREATMENT I'VE SEEN IN THE CITY OF PORTLAND IS THEY HAVE THESE PRETTY COOL CAMERAS THAT CAN DETECT WHEN CYCLISTS ARE WAITING AND, UM, AUTOMATICALLY EITHER SHOW A LITTLE LIKE BIKE GREEN SIGNAL ON THE, UH, LIGHT, OR THEY COULD JUST DO THE, UM, PEDESTRIAN INDICATOR, BUT THAT COULD BE A WAY WHERE YOU CAN STAY IN THE GREEN BIKE BOX AND GET THE SIGNAL FOR YOURSELF. UM, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THOSE, BUT I'VE USED THEM IN PORTLAND AND IT WAS A PRETTY COOL EXPERIENCE. UM, FINALLY I'D LIKE TO REITERATE, UM, THE IDEA OF HAVING CITIZENS HELP FUND THE GAP FOR PLANTINGS ON THIS CORRIDOR. UM, I SEE AT LEAST SEVEN OR EIGHT PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE WILLING TO PUT IN THEIR OWN LABOR AND FUNDS TO HELP MAKE THIS REALITY. AND I THINK WE COULD RAISE THOUSANDS OR TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO HELP CLOSE THAT GAP, UM, IF NEEDED. UM, AND I'D BE WILLING TO HELP WITH THAT EFFORT. THANKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, LAST ONE DOES NOT SAY IT'S FOR ITEM TWO, UH, BUT I ASSUME EMILY CHAR EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE. OKAY, SORRY ABOUT THAT. YEAH. YES, , UM, EMILY SHORT IN SONOMA COUNTY BICYCLE COALITION, UM, REGARDING THE BIKE LANES ON, UH, THE STEEP PART OF HOWARD STREET. UM, WANTED TO JUST ECHO, UH, COMMENTS ABOUT LOOKING AT THE OPTION OF BUFFERED BIKE LANES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. UM, I KNOW THAT WILL BE A CHALLENGE. PARKING REMOVAL IS NEVER SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE LIKE TO TALK ABOUT. UM, BUT I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT OPTION TO CONSIDER. UM, I THINK IT'S THE WAY TO ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO RIDE ON THAT STREET AND TO SHOW OTHER ROAD USERS THAT BIKES BELONG THERE. SO THANKS. THANK YOU. UH, LAST ONE SAYS AGENDA ITEM ONE, BUT UH, MARY DAVIES, THIS TOPIC. OKAY, WELCOME. YEAH, I WANNA SAY, FIRST OF ALL, I REALLY AM GRATEFUL FOR THE CHANGES THERE AT [01:15:01] A STREET. I'M ALWAYS, THE PLACE I'VE ALMOST GOTTEN KNOCKED DOWN ON MY BIKE A FEW TIMES IS THERE BY THE CHURCH. 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE RACING THIS WAY AND THEY ASSUME YOU'RE GONNA GO THIS WAY. SO THAT'S GREAT. I WANTED TO, UM, A ADD SOMETHING TO WHAT AMBER SAID ABOUT THE BOUTS FOR CYCLISTS AND WHAT BJORN WAS SAYING. YOU KNOW, WHEN I RIDE ON, UH, PETALUMA BOULEVARD, THERE IS A SHERO THERE, BUT REALLY PEOPLE DRIVING DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE SHEROS ARE. IF THERE IS ROOM, IF NOBODY'S PARKING I BIKE IN, WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE THE PARKING LANE? IF I INSTEAD DID THAT, UH, WAS IN THE SHERO AREA, CARS WOULD BE HONKING AT ME. I'VE HAD THIS HAPPEN WHEN THEY CAN SEE THAT I'VE GOT LOTS OF OTHER ROOM OVER HERE. AND SO THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS I'M BIKING ALONG HERE TO THE SIDE, BUT WHEN I COME TO THAT BUMP OUT, I HAVE TO GET RIGHT INTO THE, INTO THE TRAFFIC LANE. AND IT'S A TRICKY THING TO WORK ON, BUT, UM, I, I'VE FOUND IT QUITE HAZARDOUS. UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. AND WITH THAT I CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRING THIS BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR COMMENT AND DISCUSSION. UM, AND SO NOW WE CAN KINDA HAVE ANY COMMENTS WE WANT, UH, THEY'LL KIND OF WATCH THE TIME PLEASE 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE ANOTHER, UH, AGENDA ITEM AFTER THIS. UH, SO I'LL START WITH YOU, FRANK. PERFECT, THANK YOU. UM, OKAY, SO JUST KIND OF TAKING NOTES HERE. UH, SO I LOVE THE WHOLE A, THE, THE PLAN AROUND THE A STREET INTERSECTION. UM, I LOVE THE EXPANDED LANDSCAPE AREA. UH, WHAT, AND MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'VE CONSIDERED, BUT ON THE LANDSCAPE SIDE OR ON THE, UH, CHURCH SIDE OF THE LANDSCAPE, UM, MAYBE THERE'S A OPPORTUNITY TO TURN THAT INTO A PARKLET. YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THE, UH, HISTORIC CHINATOWN PARK IN THAT, IN THAT SECTION. UM, I THINK THAT COULD BE A A JUST A NICE PLACE TO HANG OUT. UM, THE CHANGE IN LANE CONFIGURATION ON LIBERTY I THINK IS AWESOME. UH, I, I I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT IT GIVES THE ADDITIONAL ANGLED PARKING, UM, ON THE, WITH REGARDS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, AN UPHILL BIKE LANE AND DOWNHILL, UH, CHERYL, FOR ME, I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS WHICHEVER PLAN HAS THE GREATEST IMPACT ON TRAFFIC CALMING. AND I REALLY LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD AROUND. UM, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A WAY TO TAKE OUT THE CENTER LANE OR THE CENTER LINE AND, AND, AND, AND SORT OF SHRINK THE, THE DRIVING PATH A LITTLE BIT? IT MAKES ME THINK ABOUT GARFIELD AND, UM, AND I, I THINK IN, IN PARTICULAR, THE SECTION FROM, UH, BODEGA UP THE HILL COULD ABSOLUTELY BE SOMETHING LIKE GARFIELD. AND FOR THOSE OF THAT, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ON IT, IT'S, IT'S REALLY KIND OF LIKE, UH, ALMOST A TRUE, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, YOU KNOW, LIKE A GREENWAY. UH, IT REALLY CALMS THE, THE, UH, TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE THAT I'VE TALKED TO LOVE IT. AND IT'S, UH, AND BASICALLY YOU'RE JUST MAKING IT NARROWER. UM, OBVIOUSLY WITH GARFIELD YOU HAVE SHEROS HERE, YOU'D HAVE OP, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T SUGGEST, I, I'M NOT SUGGESTING YOU MAKE IT ALL SHEROS, BUT YOU COULD DO, UH, KINDA LIKE A GREENWAY WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME BIKE LANES. UM, I REALLY LIKED THE SUGGESTION ON THE MEDIUM PANELS PADDLES, I GUESS. UM, AND, UH, ONE QUESTION THAT I DID HAVE AND, AND YOU KIND OF ANSWERED IT, UH, BUT I WAS GONNA THROW OUT THERE, HAVE WE CONSIDERED A TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT HOWARD AND BODEGA? AND YOU TALKED ABOUT FUNDING AND I ASSUME THAT THAT'S PROBABLY, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE OUTTA REACH, BUT TO ME I, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE A, AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER. UM, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT. THANK YOU, FRANK. UH, ANY COMMENTS, JASON? UM, JUST TO ECHO WHAT FRANK WAS ASKING ABOUT, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT HAVING A, UM, A TRAFFIC CIRCLE AT THAT INTERSECTION, LIKE WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS WOULD BE AND WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AT THAT BIG OF AN INTERSECTION AND WHAT IMPLEMENTATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS MAY EXIST. THAT'S IT. THANKS. ALRIGHT, ADAM. UH, YEAH, JUST COMMENTS. UH, IN TERMS OF THE, THE DESIGN, OBVIOUSLY MAXIMIZING PROTECTION IS SOMETHING THAT IS CRUCIAL FOR GETTING THAT MODE SHIFT [01:20:02] FOR ALL AGES AND ABILITIES. SO YEAH, IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO EXPLORE THE BUFFERED BIKE LANES NORTH OR UP IN UPHILL AND DOWNHILL, THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. UM, IF, JUST IN LIEU OF THAT, I FEEL LIKE JUST UNDERSTANDING THIS FROM COMMENTS A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, IF YOU'RE GONNA BE TRYING TO HAVE BICYCLISTS GOING DOWNHILL FASTER THAN CARS, YOU SEEMS LIKE YOU NEED TO PUT IN SOME SPEED BUMPS AND THEN HAVE THOSE LITTLE GAPS FOR BICYCLISTS TO GO THROUGH. SO BICYCLISTS GOES SAILING THROUGH CARS ARE KIND OF MORE BUMPY BUMP AND THAT ALSO MAY BE ADDRESSES THAT SPEEDING TO THE LIGHT KIND OF ISSUE OR SOMETHING. UM, AND THEN THE OTHER TWO SUGGESTIONS ARE ACTUALLY KIND OF RELATED TO THE, UM, WAY FINDING, BUT IT'S ABOUT SIGNAGE, UM, THAT SEEMS LIKE COULD BE HELPFUL. UM, SO FOR THAT ONE SCENARIO WHERE IT'S JUST THE TWO CLASS TWO BIKE LANES FOR INSTANCE, AND YOU'RE IN THE DOOR ZONE UNDER THOSE TYPES OF NEW SCENARIOS, THERE COULD BE LIKE SOME SIGNAGE FOR ALONG THE LIKE PARKING, UM, POSTS THAT SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE EXITING LOOK FOR BICYCLISTS. SO KIND OF CONTEXT SPECIFIC WHEN YOU DO HAVE BICYCLIST IN THAT DOOR ZONE, THAT COULD BE ONE OF THOSE NOT WAY FINDING, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU WOULD CALL THAT KIND OF STREET ETIQUETTE SIGNS. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS THAT CALIFORNIA VEHICLE CODE 2 1 4 5 6 THAT SAYS BICYCLISTS CAN GO ON THAT LEADING PEDESTRIAN INTERVAL. PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S RELATIVELY NEW AND EVEN IF YOU'RE NEW TO BICYCLING OR WHATEVER, LIKE IT'D STILL BE A GOOD, AGAIN, KIND OF YEAH, STREET ETIQUETTE SIGNAGE. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S OTHER, I'M SURE THERE'S OTHER TYPES LIKE THAT, BUT AS WE'RE KIND OF THINKING THROUGH STREET SIGNAGE, BUT THEN ALSO, OR THE WAY FINDING, BUT THEN ALSO KIND OF PROJECT SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, APPLICATIONS. THOSE ARE TWO EXAMPLES THAT, UM, KIND OF YEAH, THAT COME TO MIND. UH, AND THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS. ALRIGHT, AMBER, FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR A REALLY WELL DONE PRESENTATION. I'M NOT UP IN THAT AREA SINCE I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN SO MUCH. UM, I REALLY LIKE THE SEPARATED BUFFERED BIKE LANES AT DIFFERENT FOR THE, FOR THE HILL. I THINK THAT'S GREAT. AND I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE CHANGES IN THE LIBERTY AND THE A STREET AREA. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU. UH, GO AHEAD DAVID. UH, JUST, YEAH, I WANNA REITERATE, UH, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PRESENTATION, VERY EXCITING PROJECT. UH, I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE MORE DANGEROUS LOCATIONS DOWNTOWN. I THINK WE'RE ALL MAYBE SOMEWHAT USED TO, BUT I'M, YOU KNOW, STILL SCARED BY IT. GET HONKED AT YELLED AT AND YOU CAN SEE WHEN PEOPLE HAVE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ARE NEW TO TOWN OR JUST VISITING THAT THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO AT LIBERTY AND HOWARD. SO, UH, I THINK IT'S A, A GREAT ELEGANT SOLUTION AND I THINK IT'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO, UM, MAYBE USE IT AS A, AN EXAMPLE OR A WAY, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC OF THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU'RE REALLY, I THINK, MAKING A MAJOR, AT LEAST SINCE I'VE LIVED HERE, A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT TO, UM, WALKING AND, AND BIKING AND, AND, UM, AND DRIVING AND PARKING ALL AT THE SAME TIME. UM, AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF NEW PUBLIC SPACE DOWN THERE ALSO, SO I DUNNO IF YOU WANNA PUT LIKE A PLACARD UP OR SOMETHING ABOUT LIKE, ALL THE THINGS THAT THE CITY IS DOING FOR SAFE STREETS. UM, SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, COMMEND THE EFFORT. HOPEFULLY YOU CAN, UH, MOVE IT ALONG QUICKLY. I KNOW THESE THINGS TAKE A LONG TIME, BUT IT'S VERY EXCITING. UM, SO, UH, I ACTUALLY SPOKE TO A BUSINESS OWNER WHO'S ON LIBERTY. HE WAS ALSO VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. IF I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW IF YOU'VE RECEIVED ANY PUSHBACK, UM, FROM THE COMMUNITY, IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF. SO I THINK THAT'S EXCITING, AGAIN, TO HAVE A PROJECT THAT IS SO UNIVERSALLY SUPPORTED AND NOT DIVISIVE. UM, WOULD ALSO WANT TO ECHO SEVERAL COMMENTS FROM TONIGHT ABOUT, UM, LEAVING SPACE FOR TREES AND PLANTS AND IF THAT BECOMES A BUDGET ISSUE. I, I AGREE WITH WHAT BRUCE SAID SPECIFICALLY THAT IF YOU, UH, PUT THE HOLE IN THE GROUND, SOMEONE WILL, WILL PUT A, A PLANT IN IT AT SOME POINT THAT THAT'LL GET FIGURED OUT IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE VERY QUICKLY. SO IF IT'S A MATTER OF JUST LEAVING SPACE, UH, I THINK YOU KNOW THAT. I THINK THAT WAS A GREAT SUGGESTION. UM, MARIO BROUGHT UP I THINK A ELEVATED, UM, CROSSWALK, UH, SPEED TABLE. UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WHAT THE APPROPRIATE TERM IS, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE SEEN VERY MUCH OF AROUND TOWN. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR THE CROSSWALK AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT LOCATION FOR IT COMING DOWN THAT HILL. I KNOW THERE'S ADDED COSTS FOR THOSE THINGS, BUT, UM, MAYBE A GOOD PLACE TO, TO LOOK AT IT. UM, AND THEN I THINK SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP HERE TONIGHT ARE, AGAIN, [01:25:01] LIKE CITYWIDE ISSUES. SO AGAIN, JUST COMMENTING ON THAT, THAT, AGAIN, AS ABIGAIL MENTIONED, BIKE BOXES AT MORE INTERSECTIONS. I DUNNO IF THERE'S A REASON WHY WE DON'T HAVE GREEN BOXES AT, AT EVERY INTER MAJOR INTERSECTION, IF IT'S JUST A COST ISSUE, IF IT'S MORE OF A ENGINEERING DESIGN PROBLEM. BUT I THINK WE, WE NEED THOSE EVERYWHERE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU CAN PUT A CAMERA ON IT, UH, AND GET, UH, TO MAKE IT SO BIKES ARE, ARE SEEN BY THE LIGHTS. I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT. UM, I THINK ALSO THE, UM, LIKE MARY SAID, THE, THE SHADOWS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY OR MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE MEAN. UH, SO I, I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THE, UM, BIKES MAY USE FULL LANE SIGNS WHEREVER WE HAVE TO USE THOSE TO HELP, UM, REITERATE THE POINT THAT BIKES MAY USE THE FULL LANE, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT MEANS. UM, AND ALSO THE, I GUESS WHENEVER I AM STARTING TO RIDE THROUGH THE INTERSECTION AT, UH, WASHINGTON AND THE BOULEVARD WITH THE LEADING CROSSWALK, UH, I FEEL LIKE I GET A LOT OF LOOKS AND I ACTUALLY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS LEGAL. SO THAT'S GREAT TO KNOW THAT I'M NOT BREAKING THE LAW DOING THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY OF ADDING, UM, SIGNAGE TO, TO THAT EFFECT SO DRIVERS KNOW, UM, LIKE IF THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, LEADING CROSSWALK SLASH BIKE SIGN OR SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, AGAIN, EDUCATIONAL IMPLEMENT THERE AS FAR AS LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT THAT'S EXPECTED. UM, AND I THINK THAT THE CONCERN ABOUT THE BULB OUTS THAT, UM, WAS, WAS RAISED BY AMBER, I THINK IS ALSO, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A DESIGN WHERE YOU CAN DO A BULB OUT, A BULB OUT THAT'S GOT LIKE A, A BREAK IN IT SO BIKES CAN GO THROUGH IT POSSIBLY IF THERE'S LIKE AN ENGINEERING SOLUTION TO THAT WHERE YOU STILL GET THE BENEFITS OF THE BULB OUT, BUT YOU HAVE A PATH FOR BIKES TO GO THROUGH IT WITHOUT HITTING PEDESTRIANS. UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT, UH, MAYBE JUST, UM, 'CAUSE I, I, I, I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK THAT IS, UH, IT IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALL EXPERIENCED ON, ON BIKES IS, UH, GETTING PUSHED OUT INTO THE LANE, UM, IF YOU'RE USING THE PARKING LANE. PARKING LANE. UM, THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, JOANNA. UM, I WANNA SECOND OR THIRD THE RACE CROSSWALKS. I THINK THEY'RE GREAT, UM, FOR PREFERENCE WITH THE BIKE LANES, BUT FOR, I'M FOR PROTECTED OR BUFFERED BIKE LANES IN BOTH DIRECTIONS, AND THAT MIGHT COST SOME PARKING, BUT YOU'RE PLANNING TO ADD 19 SPACES DOWN THE ROAD, SO MAYBE WE SACRIFICE A FEW PARKING SPOTS. UM, I WOULD MUCH PREFER NOT TO RIDE IN DOOR ZONE, UH, FOR, FOR THE, THE TRAFFIC LIGHT. AND THAT'S NOT JUST FOR THIS INTERSECTION, BUT I WONDER WHY WE CANNOT HAVE LIKE THE, THE WALK SIGN WITH EVERY CYCLE WHY I HAVE TO LIKE PUSH THAT BUTTON FIRST. LIKE ALL THE INTERSECTIONS, AT LEAST IN DOWNTOWN COULD JUST ALWAYS HAVE A WALK SIGN SO I DON'T HAVE TO SPRINT TO IT TO HIT IT RIGHT THAT SECOND. WHY WAIT FOR LIKE A FULL CYCLE? I MEAN, THAT SHOULD BE AN EASY FIX TO JUST LIKE ASSUME THERE'S PEDESTRIANS. UM, AND THEN THAT WOULD SOLVE IT FOR THE, FOR THE CYCLISTS TOO. UM, IF WE HAVE SPACE TO ADD 19 SPACES OF ANGLED PARKING, I WONDER IF SOME OF THEM, I LIKE THE BIKE RACK IDEA, BUT ALSO SOME COULD PROBABLY BE TREES. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ALL 19 CARS. UM, AND THEN TO THE, SINCE WE ARE ALL USING THE PARKING LANE ON THE BOULEVARD AS A BIKE LANE, MAYBE WE DON'T NEED THAT MANY PARKING SPOTS, LIKE IN GENERAL. . THANK YOU, BRIAN. UM, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. UM, IT SEEMED TO HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHT PUT INTO HOW TO IMPROVE SOMETHING THAT IS INEVITABLY GOING TO HAPPEN OVER TIME, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW ALL OF THESE TRANSPORTATION MODES, ESPECIALLY ON A STREET LIKE HOWARD, UM, WILL NEED TO BE THOUGHT OF GOING FORWARD. AND THIS IS A GOOD IDEA FOR HOW TO IMPLEMENT ACROSS FURTHER PROJECTS FOR MORE STREETS ARE UPDATED IN THE FUTURE. UM, IN REGARDS TO, I, I, I STRUGGLE WITH THE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS IS A P BACK COMMITTEE, RIGHT? PEDESTRIAN, THE WAY THAT WE OFTEN FRAME THESE THINGS IS, OH, THIS IS REALLY GOOD FOR CYCLISTS, SO THIS IS REALLY GOOD FOR PEDESTRIANS. AND WE DON'T OFTEN THINK OF THE HOLISTIC ACROSS WHAT IS ACTUALLY BEING IMPROVED AND HOW DOES IT IMPROVE FOR EVERYBODY, EVEN IF THAT MEANS THERE'S A GIVE AND TAKE BECAUSE IT IS COMPROMISED ACROSS EVERYTHING SO THAT EVERYONE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO IT DO WHATEVER MODE OF TRANSPORTATION IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY THAT THEY CAN. UM, [01:30:01] I THINK THAT THE, UM, WAY IN WHICH, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, IN THINKING OF THE BROADER COMMUNITY AND THE WAY THAT THERE'S NOW PUSHBACK AGAINST E-BIKES AND THE WAY THAT THERE'S NOW, UH, THOUGHT PROCESS THAT BIKES THEMSELVES ARE GOING TOO FAST THROUGH A LOT OF THESE THINGS, I THINK THAT THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF BENEFIT TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, EVEN SLOWING DOWN BIKES IS PROBABLY A GOOD DESIGN DECISION IN THESE CASES BECAUSE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT MORE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, WHILE THERE IS VERY CONCERTED EFFORT TO PUSH BACK ON ONE OF THE GROWING TYPES OF, OF TRANSPORTATION, ESPECIALLY FOR KIDS, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S, EVERY KID NOW HAS AN E-BIKE. THEY'RE RIDING THEM OFTEN A LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVELY THAN MOST PEOPLE WOULD LIKE. AND THAT IS GOING TO CREATE A REAL PUSHBACK ON THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT I THINK AS A COMMITTEE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET DONE OVERALL. UM, AND SO JUST WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS BROADLY, IT'D BE GOOD TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL, THAT IT'S NOT ONLY ABOUT TRYING TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, THE CYCLING THE EASIEST POSSIBLE THING, EVEN THOUGH I LOVE HAVING WIDE OPEN LANES TO GO AS FAST AS I CAN WHEN I RIDE MY BIKE, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S ALSO A SAFETY ISSUE FOR PEDESTRIANS AS WELL. UM, SO I APPRECIATE THE IDEA THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE, EVERYBODY AS PROTECTED AS POSSIBLE IS, I THINK WHAT I'M SAYING. UM, I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE ONE-WAY STREET, UM, ON LIBERTY. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA FOR BOTH EXPANDING ACCESS AND JUST CREATING SOME PURPOSE AROUND A VERY CONFUSING PART OF PETALUMA THAT IS HIGHLY TRAFFICKED, ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE, MIGHT NOT BE, UM, WHO MIGHT NOT LIVE HERE. I KNOW WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE, I WAS VERY CONFUSED BY THAT AREA ABOUT WHERE I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO. UM, AND IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO FIGURE OUT, AND I THINK THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, SECTIONING IT OFF, SAYING, YEP, THAT'S THE PARKING FOR THE CHURCH MAKES IT VERY CLEAR THAT IT, UM, ABOUT ITS MAIN PURPOSE AND THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE USED AS A THOROUGHFARE AS WELL. UM, AND YEAH, I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT OTHER DESIGNS WE COME UP WITH AS WE CONTINUE TO MAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS. YEAH, THANK YOU BRIAN. UM, THIS IS A REALLY EXCITING PROJECT AND I'M ONBOARD ESSENTIALLY WITH ALL OF IT. UM, BUT I DO HAVE A FEW COMMENTS. UM, FEW PEOPLE MENTIONED THE DELAY ON THE CROSSWALK SIGNAL AND HOW CYCLISTS MAYBE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY CAN, THEY CAN GO WHEN THE, UM, WHEN THAT CHANGES. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE BIG PROJECT, BUT, UM, JUST HAVING THE, THE LIGHT SAY, YOU KNOW, WALK SLASH BIKE OR HAVE BOTH SYMBOLS, I THINK JUST SOLVES THAT ISSUE AND THAT MAKES IT CLEAR TO EVERYBODY. YOU DON'T NEED ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE. WE'VE ALREADY GOT THAT SIGNAGE JUST NEEDS TO NOT BE, UH, SO PEDESTRIAN, UH, FOCUSED. UM, AND THEN, UH, YEAH, THE HOWARD, THE, THE, ALL THE, THE STEEP PARTS THERE. UM, IF WE CAN HAVE, UM, BUFFER BIKE LANES ON, ON BOTH SIDES, I'M, I'M DEFINITELY, AS OTHERS HAVE SAID, IN FAVOR OF THAT. HOWEVER, UM, I'M, I'M I ON THE STEEPER SECTIONS, YOU CAN GO PRETTY QUICK DOWNHILL. UM, EVEN, EVEN KIDS, UH, IF THEY'RE OLD ENOUGH TO BE RIDING IN THE STREET, UM, GOING DOWNHILL, UH, SHOULD BE ALL RIGHT AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT BEING PASSED. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, BIKES MAY USE FULL LANE SIGNS, WHICH WE'VE ALL SEEN, OR I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IT'S ALLOWED, BUT, UM, SOME SORT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, DO NOT PASS ON THE DOWNHILL SECTIONS, UH, TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT, THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO, TO OVERTAKE. UH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SAVE ANY TIME OVERTAKING SOMEBODY ON, ON THE DOWNHILL SECTIONS. THERE NOT ANY SIGNIFICANT TIME. UH, SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST JUST WAIT TILL YOU GET TO THE STOP SIGN. UH, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, UM, THAT BE THE NORM, THAT YOU DON'T PASS A CYCLIST DOWNHILL LIKE THAT. UM, OH, AND THEN ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, DOWNHILL, YA, YOU HAD SHOWN THAT IT SWITCHES, UM, AT GALLAND OR KENT STREET DOWN TO WEST. I, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, IT'S DOWNHILL THAT ENTIRE WAY. YOU KNOW, THE, THE PITCH CHANGES A LITTLE BIT, BUT I WOULDN'T, UM, CHANGE THE BIKE LANE CONFIGURATION AS YOU'RE GOING NORTH, UH, AT CANT OR GALLONS THERE. IT REALLY IS JUST DOWNHILL ALL THE WAY TO WEST. I DON'T THINK ANY NEED TO CHANGE THAT AT, UM, I'LL, I'LL BE THE FOURTH OR FIFTH OR SIXTH PERSON TO PUT IN MY VOTE FOR RAISED CROSSWALKS AT SUNK BEFORE, UM, [01:35:01] AT A STREET. I THINK THAT'D BE REALLY NICE THERE. UH, AND ANY OTHER CROSSWALK ALONG THERE? UM, IF ANYONE WHO'S BEEN WATCHING THE WOMEN'S TOUR DE FRANCE, OR A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, THE MEN'S TOUR DE FRANCE, YOU SEE ALL THESE RAISED EUROPEAN STYLE, UH, CUSHION SPEED CUSHIONS AT OFTEN AT, UH, CROSSWALKS, AND THE CYCLISTS GO OVER 'EM AT 30 MILES AN HOUR OR MORE. AND, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM FOR THEM, BUT IT SLOWS THE HECK OUTTA CARS. ANYONE WHO'S DRIVEN OVER THERE, YOU REALLY WILL SCRAPE THE BOTTOM OF YOUR CAR IF YOU DON'T SLOW DOWN ON THOSE. UM, I KNOW THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, STORM WATER CONSIDERATIONS THAT NEED TO, UH, BE FACTORED IN, UH, BUT TO ALSO A DA CONSIDERATIONS AND TO HAVE IT JUST A SINGLE PLATFORM FROM SIDEWALK TO SIDEWALK ACROSS, I THINK IS REALLY OPTIMAL. UH, AND THEN OF COURSE, IT, IT SLOWS DOWN THE CARS. UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT ONE OPTION YOU'RE CONSIDERING THERE AT A STREET TO HAVE A, A FOUR-WAY STOP. UH, I, I WOULD NOT LOOK INTO THAT . I, I PREFER SLOW AND CONTINUOUS TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU GET WITH A ROUNDABOUT AND I DON'T SEE THE ADDING A STOP SIGN THERE IS GONNA, I MEAN, MAYBE IT DOES ON PAPER IMPROVE SAFETY AND IF IT, IF THAT'S SIGNIFICANT, THEN DON'T LISTEN TO ME. UH, BUT, UH, YEAH, I, I LIKE THIS DESIGN A HECK OF A LOT. UM, LOOKS LIKE A MODEL FOR THE REST OF THE, UH, CITY WHERE YOU'RE EXTENDING THE SIDEWALK OUT AND, AND TAKING BACK SOME OF THAT AREA FROM THE, THE CARS. UM, SO, UH, YEAH, I APPLAUD THAT AND WOULD LOVE TO, IF ANYTHING, JUST SEE IT EXPANDED EVEN MORE, UH, ALL UP AND DOWN PLACES FOR TREES, PLACES FOR BIKE PARKING, UH, YOU MENTIONED, UH, NO, RIGHT ON RED AS A CONSIDERATION FOR, I THINK YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE WASHINGTON BODEGA INTERSECTION IN PARTICULAR. UH, YES, PLEASE, THERE AND ANYWHERE ELSE. UM, THOSE ARE ALWAYS DANGEROUS SITUATIONS WHERE THE DRIVERS ARE, YOU KNOW, VERY IMPATIENT TO, TO GET THROUGH. AND A NO RIGHT ON RED SIGN, UM, IS GONNA IMPROVE SAFETY DRAMATICALLY AND REALLY NOT SLOW THINGS DOWN MUCH, UH, FOR A LOT OF THESE INTERSECTIONS. UM, AND THAT IS ALL OF MY COMMENTS, WHICH CLOSES OUT ALL OF THE COMMITTEE COMMENTS. UM, ALRIGHT, AND SO NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM THREE, AND WE'LL RECEIVE AN UPDATE, UH, AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THE CITYWIDE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION WAY FINDING PROJECT. UH, SO PLEASE, BJORN, TELL US ABOUT WAYFINDING. THANK YOU. LET ME SWITCH MY SCREEN SHARE AND, AND JUST, UH, AGAIN, THANKS FOR ALL THE GREAT QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS TONIGHT FROM, UH, BOTH COMMITTEE AND, AND THE PUBLIC. A LOT OF, LOT OF REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK THERE, UH, TO TAKE BACK TO OUR, UH, DESIGN TEAM AND, AND HOPEFULLY A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE. UM, ALL RIGHT, SO DIVING BACK INTO THE WORLD OF WAY FINDING, UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR, UH, QUITE SOME TIME, UM, INCLUDING IN OUR A TP. UH, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN A RECOGNITION FOR A LONG TIME THAT, UM, IT, IT WOULD JUST BE VERY HELPFUL OBVIOUSLY, TO HAVE, UM, SOME SIGNAGE TO HELP, UH, PEOPLE, UH, NAVIGATE OUR EVER-GROWING, UM, NETWORK OF, UH, OF BIKE ROUTES. AND SO, UM, FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE, UH, ABOUT $220,000 IN GRANT FUNDING, UH, THAT, UH, YOUR COMMITTEE AND OUR CITY COUNCIL, UM, APPROVED AS KIND OF HIGHEST PRIORITY, UH, FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, UH, FOR THIS GRANT FUNDING, UH, TO WORK WITH. AND, UH, OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT, UH, WILL BE ABLE, UH, THE, BASICALLY THE FIRST $120,000 OF THAT GRANT FUNDING WILL BE USED TO, UH, DESIGN A NEW FAMILY OF WAY FINDING SIGNS, UH, DEVELOP BASICALLY STANDARDS THAT THE CITY CAN APPLY AS WE IMPLEMENT THESE SIGNS, UH, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND THEN ALSO, UH, ACTUALLY LAY OUT A FIRST PHASE OF SIGNS AND CREATE BID READY DOCUMENTS FOR US, UM, COVERING ABOUT 10 MILES OF OUR, OF OUR NETWORK. UM, SO TONIGHT AND, AND THAT, UH, THAT PLAN IS STILL IN DEVELOPMENT, UM, I'LL BE OBVIOUSLY COMING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ANYTIME I GET SORT OF A, A WORK PRODUCT FROM THE CONSULTANT, UH, BRING IT HERE FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AND THEN PASS IT BACK TO THEM. UM, AND, UH, THEY ARE WORKING ON ALL THREE OF THOSE ITEMS I JUST MENTIONED. UH, BUT THE FIRST DELIVERABLE THAT THEY WANTED TO GET OUR FEEDBACK ON WAS THE ACTUAL, UM, SIGNAGE DESIGN TONIGHT. SO, UM, DON'T HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, LOCATIONS YET TO GET FEEDBACK ON, UM, OR, OR THE KIND OF THE CITYWIDE STANDARDS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP FOR US, UM, THAT GIVE US [01:40:01] GUIDANCE ON WHAT TYPES OF DIRECTIONS END UP ON, OR DESTINATIONS END UP ON THE SIGNS WHERE THE SIGNS ACTUALLY ARE PHYSICALLY PLACED, YOU KNOW, RELATIVE TO INTERSECTIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT. ALL THE KIND OF NUTS AND BOLTS OF THAT'LL HELP US, UM, YOU KNOW, TAKE THIS WORK PRODUCT FROM THEM AND BECOME COMPLETELY SELF-SUFFICIENT, UH, IN, INTO THE FUTURE. UM, SO JUST KIND OF REITERATING, UM, JUMPING INTO THEIR DESIGNS HERE, UM, SOME OF THE, THE PROJECT GOALS THAT, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, IMPRESSED UPON THEM, UM, OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT THE GROWING NETWORK, UH, EMBRACE SORT OF SOME PREVIOUS BRANDING EFFORTS THAT WERE DONE, UM, BY, BY A DIFFERENT DESIGN CONSULTANT. UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO NEED TO REALLY REINVENT THE WHEEL WHEN IT COMES TO, WE DON'T WANT THEM SPINNING THEIR WHEELS ON, ON THE BRANDING AND THE COLOR SELECTION AND THE FONT SELECTION. OUR DIRECTION WAS JUST TAKE THIS AND KIND OF, UH, GIVE IT A UPDATE IT SO THAT IT'S, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE INCLUSIVE OF OTHER ACTIVE MODES, UM, BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS VERSION WAS JUST CALLED BIKE PETALUMA, AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME, UM, SOME HEARTBURN OVER THAT WITH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, UH, OTHER MODES OF TRAVEL THAT ARE EMERGING IN, IN, IN THIS, UH, IN THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION REALM. UM, WE ALSO WANTED TO USE THIS SIGNAGE TO REALLY KIND OF MARKET THE, THE CONVENIENCE OF ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION TO PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT EVEN BE CURRENTLY TRAVELING BY BIKE. YOU KNOW, THESE SIGNS WILL BE VISIBLE TO DRIVERS. AND ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE CONSULTANTS IS WE WANNA SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, DISTANCES AND TIME ESTIMATES ON THESE SIGNS SO THAT DRIVERS UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, AS THEY'RE DRIVING DOWN SNOW MOUNTAIN PARKWAY AND HEADED FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, TRA UH, CHOKED UP, UM, EAST WASHINGTON STREET THAT ACTUALLY IF THEY GOT ON THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL, THEY'D BE DOWNTOWN IN 15 MINUTES, RIGHT? UM, IT'S, IT'S IT, LIKE, MAYBE IT'S COMPETITIVE OR, OR EVEN, UH, UH, FASTER THAN DRIVING IN SOME CASES. SO, UM, SO THAT WAS PART OF IT. UM, TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE, THE CHALLENGES OF, UH, INTEGRATING OUR OFF STREET NETWORK WITH OUR ON STREET NETWORK. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN A, IN A PUBLIC COMMENT EARLIER, UM, WAY FINDING WILL HELP US BRIDGE THAT GAP, UM, NOT ONLY WITH SIGNAGE, BUT ALSO WITH MARKINGS ON THE GROUND THAT KIND OF GUIDE PEOPLE BETWEEN, UH, ON STREET AND OFF STREET, UH, NETWORKS. AND THEN LASTLY, UH, ONE OF OUR, UH, SOMETHING WE REALLY DO WANT TO GET OUT OF THIS IS, UH, A REFRESH ON PEDESTRIAN WAY FINDING SIGNAGE IN OUR DOWNTOWN, ESPECIALLY HELPING PEOPLE GET BETWEEN THE DOWNTOWN AND THE SMART STATION, WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY, AND ESPECIALLY WITH FROM A LOT OF FOLKS WHO MIGHT NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH PETALUMA. SO THIS WAS THE, THE PREVIOUS DESIGN EFFORT DONE BY MERGE, UM, A COUPLE YEARS BACK. UM, THEIR WHOLE SIGN FAMILY WAS, UM, UH, I GUESS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT, UM, THAT SORT OF, UH, THIS DESIGN AESTHETIC, UM, THAT LOOKS SIMILAR TO A LOT OF THE CITY BRANDING YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN WITH, UM, UH, WITH THAT HAVE, THAT'S COME OUT FROM THE CITY AND, AND FROM OUR, UM, OUR VISITOR CENTER. UM, SO THAT'S WHAT THEY DEVELOPED. UM, THIS IS THEIR BIKE PETALUMA SIGN. SO, UH, AGAIN, ACTUALLY I SHOULD PROBABLY BE A LITTLE MORE DESCRIPTIVE HERE, BUT YOU'VE GOT, UM, YOU'VE SOME DIFFERENT PURPOSES FOR THESE SIGNS. UM, THIS IS KIND OF A TRAILHEAD SIGN HERE IN THE UPPER RIGHT. AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK WELL AT A, AT A TRAILHEAD, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED WITH, UM, THESE, UH, I THINK THESE ARE, UH, CALLED FLAG FLAG POSTS THAT COME OFF THE SIDE. UM, AND THEN SOME OTHER KIND OF TRAIL, UH, TRAIL SPECIFIC SIGNAGE, UM, THERE. AND LET'S SEE, YEAH, BIKE PETALUMA WAS THE, UH, THOSE ARE THE DECISION SIGNS THAT YOU WOULD ENCOUNTER WHILE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, ON AN, IN AN ON STREET FACILITY TELLING YOU KIND OF WHERE TO TURN. UM, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT, UM, SOME TRAIL BANNERS. UH, THIS IS THEIR PEDESTRIANS SCALED SIGNAGE HERE FOR DOWNTOWN. UM, AND SO WE GAVE THIS TO TOOL, UM, AND THEY HAD A LOT OF, UH, KIND OF FEEDBACK ON THAT PLAN. UM, THINGS THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, ADJUSTMENTS THEY WOULD MAKE. UM, ONE OF THE ISSUES TO, I'LL JUST SAY, UH, WITH GOING BACK HERE IS THAT A LOT OF THESE JUST, YOU KNOW, YES, SOME OF THESE SIGNS MIGHT LOOK GREAT, BUT, UM, WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE, THE CAPITAL COST OF PRODUCING A LOT OF THESE SIGNS, AND THEN [01:45:01] ALSO, UH, MAINTAINING THEM. AND, AND WE HAVE UNFORTUNATELY HAD A LOT OF ISSUES WITH VANDALISM ON, ESPECIALLY IN OUR OFF STREET TRAILS. SO THAT WAS A, A, A KEY CONSIDERATION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH TOOL THAT, UM, DIDN'T APPEAR IN THOSE UPFRONT GOALS ANYWAYS. UM, SO HERE WAS SOME OF THEIR FEEDBACK, UM, THAT THE, SOME OF THE NOTES HERE JUST, YOU KNOW, AROUND LIKE FONT TYPE OR, OR FONT SIZE, UM, SIMPLIFICATION, UM, ADDING A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT MORE OF A, UM, SOME CREATIVE WAYS TO ADD MORE INFORMATION TO SOME OF THE, UM, SIGN TYPES THAT ME HAD DEVELOPED. AND, UM, SO HERE'S SOME OF THOSE ADJUSTMENTS. UM, GETTING RID OF BIKE PETALUMA, UH, CREATING SIGNS THAT HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, BRANDING AROUND OR IDENTIFICATION OF, UH, NAMED TRAILS OR NAMED BIKE ROUTES. SO WHETHER YOU'RE ON THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL OR IF YOU'RE ON THE FIFTH STREET, GREENWAY, UM, CREATING KIND OF A SPACE ON THE SIGN THAT IDENTIFIES THAT. UM, AND I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT ELSE KIND OF JUMPED OUT. UM, YEAH, SOME OF IT'S A LITTLE BIT KIND OF IN THE WEEDS, UM, ANYWAYS, AND THEN WE GET TO THEIR FIRST DRAFT. UM, SO THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE. UM, THIS IS WHAT WE'LL, WE'LL BE GIVING THEM FEEDBACK ON TONIGHT. YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE MATERIALS SELECTION, RIGHT, THAT WOOD HAS GONE AWAY, YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE KIND OF MOUNTING ON STANDARD. UH, WE'RE EITHER MOUNTING ON STREETLIGHTS OR JUST SORT OF, UH, STANDARD, UM, UH, SIGNPOSTS, YOU KNOW, JUST TO LOWER THOSE, UH, TO INCREASE THE DURABILITY AND LOWER THE REPLACEMENT COSTS, UM, AS WELL AS THE UPFRONT COSTS. UM, SO ANYWAYS, I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST KIND OF WALK THROUGH FROM, UH, LEFT TO RIGHT. UM, SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE HERE WHERE IF YOU WERE ON A NAMED TRAIL, UH, LIKE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL, WHERE THAT WOULD KIND OF TAKE THAT TOP PANEL, AND THEN, UM, AND THEN BENEATH IT, THE VARIOUS DESTINATIONS. AND YOU CAN SEE THERE WE'VE GOT, UH, BOTH DISTANCES AND BIKING TIMES THAT, I MEAN, WELL, YOU CAN'T REALLY, IT'S PRETTY SMALL, BUT THERE WOULD BE DISTANCES AND BIKE TIMES THERE. UM, THIS SECOND EXAMPLE IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ON JUST A KIND OF A GENERIC BIKE ROUTE THAT'S NOT REALLY A NAMED ROUTE, UM, WITH THE GO PETALUMA BRANDING. SO THAT'S A DECISION SIGN. AND THEN THIS NEXT ONE IS A CONFIRMATION SIGN. SO THAT WAS A SIGN THAT MERGE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE. UM, UH, BUT THIS IS AFTER YOU MAKE THE TURN, THEN THERE'S A CONFIRMATION, LIKE TELLING YOU, YEP, YOU, YOU WENT THE RIGHT WAY. UM, WE ALSO, THEY ALSO HAVE MILE MARKERS, UH, ON STREET GROUND MARKINGS. THESE ARE PARTICULARLY HELPFUL TO TELL PEOPLE IN TANDEM WITH A SIGN, YOU KNOW, WHERE TO GO WHEN THEY'RE, UH, YOU KNOW, REACHING A, A TRAIL INTERSECTION. UM, AND THESE HAVE BEEN USED VERY EFFECTIVELY. IF YOU GO, UH, UP TO THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST, IF YOU GO TO, YOU KNOW, PORTLAND OR EUGENE, SEATTLE, UM, THEY USE A LOT OF THESE ON STREET GROUND MARKINGS. THERE ARE SOMETIMES SECTIONS WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ON A MULTI-USE PATHWAY, AND THEN YOU MAY HAVE TO TAKE A SLIGHT JOG ONTO A SIDEWALK FOR A SHORT DISTANCE. UM, AND THAT GROUND MARKING HELPS KIND OF POINT YOU ALONG THAT, THAT ROUTE SO THAT YOU END UP IN A BIKE LANE OR AT A, YOU KNOW, AT A RAMP THAT WILL TAKE YOU TO A BIKE, UH, A BIKE LANE. UM, THIS GROUND MARKER WOULD BE USED AT, UM, UH, SO THAT'S, SORRY, THAT'S AN ON STREET GROUND MARKER. AND THEN THIS IS A, A, A TRAIL, UM, GROUND MARKER. UM, THIS IS A PEDESTRIAN SIGN, SO AGAIN, NOT REALLY ORIENTED TOWARDS PEOPLE BIKING BY. YOU CAN SEE IT'S DEFINITELY A SMALLER SIGN, SMALLER FONT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE ON A SIDEWALK COULD, COULD DIGEST, UM, AS THEY'RE PASSING BY, UH, TRAILHEAD MARKER. AND ACTUALLY, THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT KIND OF TRAILHEAD SIGNS HERE. SO, UM, WE'VE GOT, UM, THIS IS PROBABLY, UH, THE, THE SIMPLEST, UM, WHICH IS JUST A SIMPLE DIRECTIONAL SIGN WITH SOME, BELOW IT, BENEATH IT, SOME, SOME RULES OF THE TRAIL. UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT A SECOND EXAMPLE, WHICH IS, UH, GOT THESE, UH, THESE LITTLE POSTS THAT ARE, OR, UM, FINGER POSTS, THAT'S THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR. I'M LEARNING THE WORLD OF WAY FINDING, UM, FINGER POSTS THAT GIVE YOU SOME DIRECTIONAL INFO. YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN THESE ON THE SMART PATHWAY. THEY'VE GOT SIGNS LIKE THESE, UH, AT SOME OF THEIR TRAIL HEADS, YOU'VE GOT A MAP AND THEN, OR YOU COULD HAVE A SEPARATE OPTION WHERE YOU COULD JUST, UM, UH, SHOW THE, THE RULES OF THE TRAIL. AND THEN LASTLY, AT SELECT LOCATIONS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THESE MAKE SENSE AT LIKE REAL MAJOR TRAIL HEADS, UM, HAVING SOME SORT OF A, A OF A MAP KIND OF SHOWING THE SURROUNDING AREA. AND THEN AN OPTION TO EVEN MOUNT, UM, A PANEL BENEATH IT WITH, UM, SOME OF THE RULES OF THE, OF THE TRAIL. UH, JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU WHERE THE DESIGN INSPIRATION CAME FROM, OBVIOUSLY IT WAS ALSO USED BY, [01:50:01] BY MERGE. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS, UH, KIND OF ICONIC, UM, UH, SHAPE THAT SHOWS UP IN, UH, OR DETAIL THAT SHOWS UP ON THE ROOF OF THE OLD, UM, TRAIN DEPOT, UH, CURRENT VISITOR CENTER. UM, AND THEN ALSO DRAWING FROM SOME OF THE, UM, UH, DESIGN ELEMENTS OF SOME OF OUR, OUR, UH, DOWNTOWN BUILDINGS. SO WHEN IT CAME TO THE ACTUAL BRANDING, UM, FEW OPTIONS THAT THEY KIND OF WALKED THROUGH BIKE PETALUMA, OBVIOUSLY WE HAD THAT, WE WERE MOVING AWAY FROM THAT. UH, WALK, BIKE ROLL, PETALUMA, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, UM, WAS AN OPTION SIMILAR TO KIND OF WHAT WE'VE, THOSE ARE THE THREE WORDS WE'VE BEEN USING IN, IN REGARD TO ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION AND IN OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, OR JUST A DIFFERENT ORDER OF THOSE WALK, BIKE, WALK, ROLL. UM, AND THEN LASTLY, GO PETALUMA, WHICH IS, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST OBVIOUSLY, UH, KIND OF, IT, IT'S, I GUESS IT'S VAGUE, SO THAT'S MAYBE THE, THE DOWNSIDE OF THAT. BUT IT'S ALSO, UH, JUST SORT OF EASY, UH, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE, MORE EXCITING OR MORE APPROACHABLE. I DON'T KNOW. UM, SO SOME OF THE LAYOUT ALTERNATIVES, UM, JUST SHOWING YOU KIND OF THE ACTUAL DESIGN, ONCE THAT BRANDING IS SELECTED, THERE'S DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PLAY AROUND WITH SOME OF THE DIFFERENT SYMBOLOGY, UM, AND, AND DESIGN ELEMENTS. SO THEY'VE GOT THIS KIND OF LIKE GO PETALUMA THAT'S INCORPORATED WITH THE PERSON BIKING. UM, AND THEN A FEW DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS WITH, UH, THE ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, WITH THE STAR AND THE BIKE. UM, UH, AND THEN LASTLY, THE BIKE WALK ROLL, UM, PETALUMA. AND THEN LIKEWISE WITH THE TRAIL SIGNS, SIMILAR KIND OF, UM, UH, SYMBOLOGY IS THE PREVIOUS ONE, BUT JUST, UH, MORE TRAIL SPECIFIC. THEY DID PLAY AROUND WITH SOME, YOU KNOW, THEY THOUGHT THERE'S KIND OF MORE, A LITTLE MORE FUN OR, UM, UH, HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTRAST WITH THE REGULAR SIGNS. SO AGAIN, KIND OF JUST INTERESTED IN, IN WHAT PEOPLE'S INITIAL REACTIONS ARE. YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T, THERE'S NO ONE RIGHT ANSWER TO ANY OF THIS. THIS IS ALL COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE, SO I'M JUST INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT, WHAT PEOPLE THINK. UM, AND THEN LAST, I THINK, I DUNNO, MAYBE NOT LASTLY, BUT, UM, LOOKING AT, UH, DISTANCE AND BIKING TIME. UM, AND THIS IS KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, THERE'S SOME TRADE OFFS BETWEEN THE SIZE OF THE INFORMATION VERSUS THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION YOU WANT TO INCLU TO CONVEY. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, AS YOU, AND THIS MIGHT BE HARD TO JUDGE LOOKING AT A COMPUTER SCREEN, IT MIGHT BE MORE IMPACTFUL IF YOU ACTUALLY SAW A SIGN OUT ON THE STREET. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SEEING, LIKE WITH, WITH THIS FIRST SIGN, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE ONLY SHOWING THE MILEAGE TO THESE DIFFERENT DESTINATIONS, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT'S A NICE KIND OF BIG, A LARGER DISTANCE, UH, FONT SIZE. UM, AND THEN AS YOU MOVE OVER HERE, UH, RIGHT, WE'VE NOW ADDED WALKING TIME, BIKING TIME, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER. UM, SO JUST SOME, SOME DIFFERENT TRADE-OFFS HERE. UH, AND THEN JUST SHOWING CO-BRANDING. SO WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF REGIONAL TRAILS THAT PASS THROUGH PETALUMA, NOT ONLY THE SMART PATHWAY AND GREAT REDWOOD TRAIL, BUT ALSO, UM, THE BAY AREA RIDGE TRAIL. AND SO, UM, SHOWING WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, UM, WHERE WE COULD KIND OF ADD LIKE A LITTLE, UM, UH, MEDALLION, UH, WITH, WITH SOME OF THOSE OTHER, UM, REGIONAL TRAILS ON SITE IDENTIFIED. AND, UM, AND THEN ALSO FEEDBACK. ANY FEEDBACK THAT, UM, PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE CONVEYED ON TRAILHEAD SIGNS. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY COME UP WITH SEVERAL RULES, UH, OR, OR AT LEAST ETIQUETTE FOR PEOPLE TO FOLLOW WHEN THEY'RE USING OUR MULTI-USE PATHWAYS. BUT, UM, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ALSO, YOU COULD GIVE INPUT ON, UH, TONIGHT. ALRIGHT. AND SO, UM, YEAH, I GET, LIKE I SAID, UH, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK FROM, UH, FROM US. I'M GONNA BE TAKING NOTES. I WILL PASS IT BACK TO THEM, UH, FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AS WELL AS OURS AT CITY STAFF. AND, UH, AND, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, BJORN. I'M GONNA START THE OTHER END THIS TIME. SURPRISE. UM, , GO AHEAD, BRIAN. UM, THERE [01:55:01] JUST QUESTIONS. WE'LL, YEAH, NO, I, I, I QUESTIONS IN THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. I'M TRYING TO THINK OF IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS VERSUS COMMENTS. UM, IT, IS THERE A PREFERRED IDEA OF FROM EITHER THE DESIGNERS OR UM, STAFF AS TO WHAT DIRECTION WE ACTUALLY WANT TO HEAD IN HERE? BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF OPTIONS HERE IS KIND OF A LITTLE BIT OVERWHELMING. , I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT MEANS THAT THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S CLEARLY BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHT PUT INTO WHAT THINGS COULD BE, BUT UM, IS THERE ANY SORT OF CONSENSUS THAT MAYBE COULD LEAD THE WAY THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THIS? BECAUSE THERE YEAH, AS AS JUST KIND OF, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. UM, AND YEAH, I'LL LEAVE THE REST OF COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT, JANET. NO, NO QUESTIONS. NO QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? I ACTUALLY DO, GO AHEAD. UM, LOOKING AT THE SIGNS, I KNOW THAT THE CITY WAS TRYING TO TAKE AS MUCH WORK IN-HOUSE AS THEY POSSIBLY CAN, AND ARE THESE SIGNS SET UP IN A WAY THAT YES, WE HAVE THE HEAD AIR AND THE BEAUTIFUL TOP, BUT NOTICING THE LYNCH CREEK TRAIL, THE ONES WITH THE MILEAGE, WOULD THOSE BE SIGNS THAT COULD BE BROUGHT IN-HOUSE? SO DAMAGE THAT IS DONE TO 'EM BY VANDALS, WE CAN REPLACE AND NOT HAVE TO GO BACK AND HAVE REPRINTED EVERY SINGLE TIME AT A HIGHER COST? YEAH, THAT'S ONE OF OUR, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TALKING THROUGH WITH THEM. UM, OUR SIGN SHOP HAS FAIRLY LIMITED CAPABILITIES. MOST OF OUR SIGNS NOW ARE, UM, ARE ORDERED. WE ACTUALLY, SO OUR SIGN SHOP USED TO PRODUCE STREET NAME SIGNS. UH, BUT THEY'VE SINCE HAD, UM, SOME, SOME MACHINE ISSUES. UM, SO THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT FABRICATING ANY SIGNS RIGHT NOW UNTIL THEY GET, UH, SOME THINGS FIXED AND MODERNIZED. UM, WE, WE WILL, LIKE, WHAT THEY HAVE ADVISED IS THAT WE BULK ORDER, UM, SIGNS, UH, UP FRONT. LIKE IF WE'RE DOING ANYTHING THAT'S LIKE CUSTOM CUT, UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN SEE THESE SIGNS, THEY'RE KIND OF CUT OUT ON THE TOP TO WITH THAT SIMILAR PROFILE OF THE, UH, TRAIN DEPOT, UM, UH, ROOF. SO WHAT THEY ADVISED IS IF YOU WANT TO GO WITH SOMETHING CUSTOM LIKE THAT, JUST BULK ORDER THAT IN ADVANCE, AND THEN AS INDIVIDUAL SIGN NEEDS COME UP, YOU CAN SEND, YOU CAN SEND 'EM OFF TO GET PRINTED. UM, AND YOU'LL SAVE A LOT OF MONEY THAT WAY. UM, I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, AGAIN, THIS KIND OF COMES DOWN TO THE AESTHETIC PREFERENCES. I, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH PERSONALLY SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE SO CUSTOM ORDERED, UM, AND IS JUST MIGHT BE EASIER TO REPLACE IN THE FUTURE. UM, BUT I UNDERSTAND, AGAIN, THERE'S NO ONE RIGHT ANSWER. I THINK WE WILL PROBABLY, UH, WEIGH REPLACEMENT, UPFRONT COST, REPLACEMENT COST, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE WILL BE, THAT'LL DEFINITELY BE CRITERIA WITH WHERE WE ULTIMATELY END UP. BUT, UH, ALSO IF, IF THOSE COSTS ARE, IF IT'S A MARGINAL DIFFERENCE, WE'RE COMPLETELY OPEN TO THE, THE DESIGN PREFERENCES OF, OF THE COMMUNITY. SO HAVE WE LOOKED INTO HOW WE KEEP THE SIGNS UP? IS THERE ANY UPGRADED COATINGS COVERINGS THAT MAKE THEM EASIER TO CLEAN THAT WE CAN CLEAN VERSUS HAVE TO REPLACE EVERY TIME THE VANDALS GO AT THEM? YEAH, I THINK MOST THINGS NOW ARE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DESIGNED AROUND, UM, UH, BEING WASHABLE, UH, AFTER THEY GET SPRAY PAINTED. I MEAN, I COULD BE WRONG, BUT, UM, IF THERE IS, IF THERE IS A COATING, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SOME LIKE CERTAIN MATERIAL THAT WE CAN, UM, THAT WE, THAT'LL MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO WASH THESE SIGNS, WE WILL ALWAYS MAKE THAT, WE WILL ALWAYS PURCHASE THAT, UH, THAT SIGN. UM, BECAUSE THE REALITY IS WE HAVE A REAL, I MEAN, WE JUST, I'LL JUST BE BLUNT, WE HAVE A VERY SIGNIFICANT GRAFFITI ISSUE IN THIS TOWN RIGHT NOW. SO WE WILL, WE WILL DEFINITELY MAKE EVERY DESIGN CHOICE WE CAN TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF WORK WE WILL AND, AND, UH, COSTS MAINTENANCE, OUR MAINTENANCE COSTS, UM, TO RESPOND TO GRAFFITI AND GETTING INTO THAT QUESTION, ESPECIALLY WITH THE ONES FOR THE STREETS, UM, THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PAINTED AND NOT, DO WE KNOW, ARE THEY PAINTED OR ARE THEY STICKERS HAVING RIDDEN THE SMART TRAIL BACK AND FORTH? THEY'VE ALREADY PEELED THE SMART, THE PLASTIC SMART TRAIL ALREADY OFF. SO IF WE HAVE SOMETHING DIRECTLY PAINTED, I'VE [02:00:01] NOTICED THAT AS WELL. AND I THINK, YEAH, WE'LL DEFINITELY NOT BE LOOKING TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN EASILY PEEL OFF . I'VE SEEN THOSE SIGNS. YEP. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? ADAM? QUESTIONS JASON? I THINK THE ONE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, UH, FROM A GRAPHIC DESIGN PERSPECTIVE, IF THEY'VE, UM, JUST IN SCALING AND FUTURE PROOFING, IF THEY'VE, UM, IN DOING THE LAYOUTS, IF THEY, ESPECIALLY FOR THE HEADLINE, UH, THE TRAIL CREEK NAMES, UM, IF THEY'VE DONE MAX CHARACTER, LIKE MAX NAME, MID NAME, AND MAX NAME. IT'S JUST KIND OF A, UM, BECAUSE I SEELY CREEK TRAIL HERE, GO, GO BACK, UH, GO BACK TO THE, UM, RIGHT THERE WITH THESE, THERE'S, I GUESS I HAVE, UH, THREE QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, CONTRASTING COLORS, UM, MAX'S CHARACTER, UH, ACCOMMODATIONS. AND JUST IF, IF YOU GUYS, UM, TALKED ABOUT LIKE THE LONGEST, LIKE WHETHER OR NOT THE, THE SIGNS AS LAID OUT WOULD ACCOMMODATE A REALLY LONG NAME AND HOW IT WOULD DO THAT IF, YOU KNOW, IF IT WOULD CROWD, IF THE TYPE SIZE WOULD SHRINK, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. SO I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT I'M ACTUALLY GONNA PUT INTO JUST SOME CONSIDERATIONS FROM A GRAPHIC DESIGN PERSPECTIVE, UM, THAT SHOULD BE ASKED BEFORE WE MAKE A TEMPLATE. BUT I'LL PUT THEM IN, UH, I'LL PUT THEM IN A, IN A MESSAGE TO THE OKAY. TO THE COMMITTEE. YEAH, I THINK, AND I, I DO THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CERTAINLY WEIGH, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT CERTAIN, UM, FONT SIZES THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH SO THAT THE SIGNS ARE READABLE TO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE BIKING BY THESE SIGNS, RIGHT? AND THEY MAY BE GOING 20 MILES AN HOUR BIKING BY, AND THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO BE ABLE TO LOOK UP AND VERY QUICKLY DIGEST THIS INFORMATION. UH, SO I DO THINK THAT IS A, A KEY CONSIDERATION FOR THEM. UM, AND I, YEAH, I CAN'T THINK OF ANY, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC EXAMPLES, UM, WHERE WE MIGHT RUN INTO THAT ISSUE, UH, WITH ANY OF OUR NAMED TRAILS. BUT, UM, I'M, I'M DEFINITELY, I'M SURE THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'VE GOT A MINIMUM FONT SIZE IN MIND WHERE IF THEY WERE RUNNING OUTTA ROOM, THE DECISION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THEY'D PROBABLY LIKE, OKAY, THERE'S A MINIMUM FONT SIZE WE'RE COMFORTABLE GOING DOWN TO, UH, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT ABBREVIATING. YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THEM DOING A TYPE OF STUDY. YEAH. BUT THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE SIGNAGE EXPERTS AND ESPECIALLY IN BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN SIGNAGE. SO IT'S LIKE WE FOUND, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A NICHE, WE FOUND A VERY NICHE EXPERT. SO, UM, YEAH. AND FRANK, ANY QUESTIONS? JUST COMMENTS? OKAY. UH, PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW OPEN. CAN I HOP IN THERE WITHOUT A TAG? UH, SURE. GO AHEAD BRUCE. THANKS. CLOCK STARTS NOW, THOUGH. UH, FIRST QUESTION IS, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A AN ON STREET SIGN AND A TRAIL ON TRAIL SIGN? ARE THEY BOTH ON THE GROUND, ONE'S ON ASPHALT, ONE'S ON CONCRETE? UH, THERE WE GO. YEAH, TOWARDS THE MIDDLE THERE. ONE OF 'EM LOOKS LIKE IT WAS STENCIL PAINTED, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE TO THE RIGHT OF IT WITH COLORS. YEAH, I, I'LL ASK THEM, UH, WHY THE DIFFERENT, WHY DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN THE TWO? OKAY. I, I THINK THIS IS INTENDED FOR TRAILS AND THEN THIS IS INTENDED FOR, UM, YEAH, GOOD QUESTION. HUH? SENSE STREET, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY. SURROUND MARKERS FOR SIDEWALKS. YEAH. MM-HMM . YEAH, THAT MIGHT BE, THAT MIGHT BE IT. UH, YEAH, I DON'T, I, I COULD HAVE A LOT MORE TO SAY ABOUT THIS 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR EIGHT, 12 YEARS, . UH, BUT THE, UH, THE TIME VERSUS DISTANCE, EVERYBODY GOES, YOU KNOW, FROM THREE MILES AN HOUR ON A BIKE TO 30 MILES AN HOUR ON A BIKE. SO I THINK IN THE INTEREST OF SAVING SPACE AND KEEPING THEM SIMPLER, YOU JUST NEED A DISTANCE. PEOPLE OUGHT TO KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE 'EM. UM, OTHERWISE I LIKE THE COLOR COMBINATIONS AND ALL THAT. AND, UH, I AM, I DON'T KNOW IF THE, UH, THE COMMITTEE THAT WE HAD THAT, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, UH, WHEN YOU WENT AROUND WITH THE TOOL PEOPLE AND KIND OF POINTED OUT ALL THE MAJOR DESTINATIONS, IS THERE A ROOM HERE FOR THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE TO PROVIDE ANY FURTHER SORT OF LOCAL KNOWLEDGE IMPACT, OR YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA JUST, UH, TAKE IT FORWARD AND WE'LL BE LOOKING AT, UH, A, A FIRST REV FOR REVIEW? YEAH, [02:05:01] I THINK, UM, THAT'S THE, THE, UH, DID MY BEST TO DEFINITELY IMPART THE, OR SHARED, UH, ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN. UM, AND ACTUALLY TOOK THEM ON A RIDE AROUND TOWN, KIND OF SHOWED THEM, YOU KNOW, OUR KEY OFF STREET PATHWAYS AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES PEOPLE HAVE NAVIGATING BETWEEN THOSE AND THE ON-STREET NETWORK. UM, I THINK WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PROBABLY SEND TO THAT AD HOC AND TO THE COMMITTEE AS A WHOLE FOR FEEDBACK. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. AND OH, YEAH, THERE IS DEFINITELY COATINGS. WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING THE LINZ CREEK TRAIL SIGNS WITH BLUE ZONES, UH, THERE ARE, THERE'S JUST PLAIN OLD PAINT. THERE IS, UH, REFLECTIVE PAINT, WHICH MEANS IT'LL BE ILLUMINATED IN GLOW UNDER A HEADLAMP OR HEADLIGHT OR WHATEVER. UH, AND THERE'S FINISHES, THEY HAVE FINISHES THAT ARE RESISTANT SO THAT YOU GET THE SPECIAL GOOSE STUFF THAT THE PETALUMA ELIMINATING GRAFFITI USED TO HAVE, UH, THAT YOU CAN SPRAY AND WIPE. UH, AND, AND I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND, CERTAINLY SAFE STREETS, PETALUMA WILL HAVE FOLKS THAT'LL CARRY AROUND THAT STUFF AND SOME OLD RAGS THAT WILL TRY TO STAY ON TOP OF THE TAGGING TO BE DISTINGUISHED FROM GRAFFITI. GRAFFITI CAN BE ART, BUT TAGGING IS THE BAD STUFF. OKAY. THAT'S IT. THANKS. I'M REALLY STOKED ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU. UM, NOW, NOW NO, IT COMES BACK TO US, UH, FOR ANY COMMENTS WE HAVE. GO AHEAD, BRIAN. UM, DO WE, I GUESS THIS IS A GENERAL QUESTION. DO WE JUST WANT TO BROADLY HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DESIGN CHOICES? IS THAT KIND OF WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO THINK ABOUT HERE? YES. OKAY, GREAT. UM, MY, MY FEELING IS, IS THAT SIMPLER IS BETTER. KIND OF BACK TO THE POINT THAT BJORN MADE IS THAT, UM, BECAUSE THE MORE CUSTOMIZATION THAT YOU DO, EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS GORGEOUS, UM, IT JUST PROBABLY ADDS COST AND COMPLEXITY TO SOMETHING THAT LIKELY DOESN'T NEED TO BE THAT COSTLY OR COMPLEX. UM, AND IF WE CAN SAVE MONEY THERE, I'D SUGGEST DOING SO BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE'S GOING TO THIS. MAYBE ONE PERSON WILL BE LIKE, WOW, THAT'S A REALLY BEAUTIFUL SIGN, AND THAT REFLECTS REALLY WELL ON PETALUMA, UM, AS OPPOSED TO JUST HAVING A STANDARD RECTANGLE. UM, IN TERMS OF THE DESIGN CHOICES, WHETHER IT'S WALK, BIKE, ROLL, BIKE, WALK, ROLL, GO WITH THE PEDESTRIAN COMBO, UM, THE, I I THINK MAYBE GO IS THE SIMPLEST WAY TO CONVEY THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF OPTIONS TO BE GETTING SOMEWHERE. UM, I LIKE THAT BIKE WALK ROLE IS INCLUSIVE, BUT ALSO, UM, MIGHT ADD TO SOME CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO USE ANY PARTICULAR PATH OR DIRECTION FOR THE POINT ABOUT HAVING BIKE WALK, ROLL ON, YOU KNOW, UM, STREETS MIGHT NOT CONVEY LIKE, YEAH, YOU DON'T REALLY WANT TO BE WALKING IN THE STREET OR, YOU KNOW, UM, CERTAIN PATHS ARE, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I'M SURE THAT THERE'S PREFERENCE FOR WALKING ON CERTAIN PATHS VERSUS BIKING ON CERTAIN PATHS. AND EVEN THOUGH IT, UM, IT'S MORE OF JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE THEIR WHATEVER ALTERNATIVE TO A CAR THERE IS, UM, TO THAT THEY CAN REALLY GET TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING EITHER BY ANY MEANS, LIKE FOR VEINS, WHETHER IT'S SKATEBOARDING, ROLLERBLADING, BIKING, WHAT HAVE YOU. UM, AND SO I THINK ALSO JUST IN TERMS OF FOR SIMPLICITY'S SAKE, UM, I REALLY, REALLY LIKE THE ATTEMPT TO TURN THE GO, UM, INTO A BICYCLE. UH, BUT THAT MIGHT BE PUSHING IT A LITTLE BIT TOO FAR. UM, IT'S VERY CUTE, UM, BUT ALSO MAKES THE LEGIBILITY GO AWAY A LITTLE BIT AND ALSO MAKES IT SEEM LIKE IT'S ONLY BIKE CENTRIC, WHICH AGAIN, I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE SHOULD BE THINKING OF MORE HOLISTICALLY, UM, IN TERMS OF WAYS THAT YOU CAN GET AROUND PLACES. UM, IN TERMS, I AGREE THAT THE MINUTE THAT THE TIME [02:10:01] IS USUALLY WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING OF WITH HOW FAR AWAY AM I FROM SOMETHING IS REALLY THE QUESTION, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE ME TO GET THERE? UM, AND I I, I DO AGREE THAT THERE'S SO MUCH VARIANCE BETWEEN HOW LONG IT MIGHT TAKE SOMEONE THAT, ALONG WITH THE FACT THAT IF PEOPLE ARE LOST AT THIS POINT, THEY GENERALLY, THERE'S A VERY HIGH ASSUMPTION THAT THEY HAVE A PHONE WITH SOME SORT OF MAPPING TOOL THAT WILL GIVE THEM THAT EXACT TIME TO, TO GET TO THAT PLACE IF THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, FEELING LESS ADVENTUROUS THAN JUST WAY SIGNS IN THE FIRST PLACE. UM, SO I THINK THAT WE'RE PROBABLY OKAY WITH JUST SAYING DISTANCE. I THINK THAT DISTANCE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE PRETTY GOOD ABOUT BEING ABLE TO GUESSTIMATE HOW QUICKLY THEY'RE GOING TOWARDS A PARTICULAR THING, AND IT WILL CONVEY THAT THEY'RE EITHER RELATIVELY CLOSE OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO GO. UM, BUT THAT WILL GIVE THEM A GOOD IDEA OF WHERE THINGS LIE IN RELATION TO EACH OTHER. UM, , WHAT ELSE WAS THERE? UM, YEAH, THAT WAS THE MESSAGING PART. I, I DO, YEAH. THE, THE COLORS AND DESIGN ITSELF, I HAVE ZERO PROBLEMS WITH. THEY'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OF THINKING ABOUT VISIBILITY IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO BRINGING IN THE DESIGN CHOICES, UM, THAT INCORPORATE A LOT OF THE OTHER SIGNAGE AND PAMPHLETS AND MESSAGING THAT EXISTS. PET ALUMNI, LIKE THE SH SHADOWING. UM, DO, AND I GUESS THIS IS KIND OF A BIGGER QUESTION, BUT DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF EXACTLY WHAT SORT OF LANDMARKS ARE GOING TO BE PLACED AS POINTS OF REFERENCE? BECAUSE I COULD SEE A LOT OF POTENTIALS FOR, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING, I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S LIKE SCHOOLS, TRANSPORTATION, OTHER TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION, UM, MAYBE SHOPPING AREAS OR LIBRARY OR CITY HALL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT IS THERE, THERE, THERE'S AN AD HOC GROUP THAT'S GONE OVER THERE. OKAY, GREAT. UM, YEAH, IT'LL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, SO DOWNTOWN AS A WHOLE WILL BE OBVIOUSLY A POINT OF REFERENCE FOR SIGNS PRETTY MUCH IN ANY NEIGHBORHOOD OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN. RIGHT? RIGHT. THAT'S JUST A, THAT'S A DESTINATION THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE EASILY UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS AND THEY WANT TO GO THERE. RIGHT. UM, AND THEN, YEAH, OTHER EXAMPLES WOULD BE MAJOR PARKS, UH, SCHOOLS, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE CLOSER TO THE ACTUAL SCHOOLS. MM-HMM . UM, UH, OTHER KIND OF NEIGHBORHOODS OR DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, EITHER COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, BUSINESS DISTRICTS THAT KIND OF HAVE LIKE AN IDENTITY AROUND THEM. UM, UH, THOSE WILL BE THE BIT YEAH. YOU KNOW, FAIRGROUNDS, REGIONAL LIBRARY, UH, YEAH, THOSE WOULD KIND OF BE THE, THE TYPES OF, OF DESTINATIONS THAT WOULD BE CALLED OUT TRAIN STATIONS, OBVIOUSLY. YEAH. RIGHT. UM, I, IN TERMS OF THE, UH, TRAIL DIRECTIONAL SIGN PANEL AND LAYOUT, ALTERNATES SIGN, UM, SLIDE, UH, THE, I THINK YOU PASSED BY IT IS 13. UM, I, I, I THINK THAT THE SIMPLER IT, IT'S BETTER WITH THE LIGHTER BACKGROUND WITH THE TEXT, UM, JUST BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT GETS HARD TO THE DARK ON DARK, IT'S HARD TO SEE, ESPECIALLY IN, UH, LOWER LIGHT SITUATIONS. UM, YEAH, IT JUST LOOKS CLEANER AND A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSISTENT IF WE KEEP IT LIKE JUST ONE SPECIFIC TYPE. UM, YEAH, I, I, I'M GLAD THAT THEY, UH, I, AGAIN, I'M JUST GENERALLY GLAD THAT THEY'VE PUT IN THIS MUCH THOUGHT INTO WHAT THE THINGS CAN BE. AND AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE LOVE TO HEAR WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE RIGHT DESIGN CHOICES ARE HERE. THANKS. THANK YOU. WELL, YOU WON'T HAVE TO WAIT LONG. UH, JOANNA, UM, I, I THINK IT'S PROFESSIONALS, LIKE THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. I'M FINE WITH, LIKE, THE SIGNS LOOK GOOD TO ME. I WOULD GO WITH LIKE, GO PETALUMA AND I WOULD PUT LIKE THE PEDESTRIAN, [02:15:01] THE STAR, AND THE BIKE THERE. BUT AGAIN, I HAVE NO STRONG FEELINGS. I THINK THIS IS GREAT. SIMPLE IS GREAT. YEAH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD DAVID. I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT QUICK HERE. UM, SO I WOULD JUST, I DON'T HAVE A STRONG OPINION ABOUT MOST OF THESE THINGS. I WOULD JUST WANNA TRY TO COME BACK TO THE MAIN PRIORITIES HERE, WHICH I, I THINK I, I HEARD, AND I AGREE WITH OUR, UM, INFORMING PEOPLE WHERE TO GO, I THINK IS THE MAIN THING IF THEY'RE BIKING, WALKING, OR ROLLING. BUT I LIKE YOUR OTHER POINT BONA THAT YOU MADE ABOUT, IT'S AN ADVERTISEMENT ALSO FOR DRIVERS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER OTHER THINGS WHEN THEY'RE ESPECIALLY STUCK IN TRAFFIC. SO I GUESS FOR THOSE, I GUESS FOR THAT SECOND REASON, I WOULD, I GUESS MAYBE I'M THE ONLY ONE, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THE TIME ESTIMATE ON THERE. I THINK THAT IT DOESN'T DETRACT FROM THE SIGN. UM, AND I USING AN AVERAGE TIME FOR RECYCLING, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF IF THAT IN AND OF ITSELF CAPTURES SOMEONE'S ATTENTION IN THE CAR, I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT IS A BENEFIT OF DOING THESE SIGNS ALSO. UM, I I, I REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, I THINK PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT LIKE, IF WE'RE RUNNING INTO BUDGET CONSTRAINTS, IT'S OBVIOUSLY GONNA LIMIT HOW MANY SIGNS WE CAN PUT OUT. I GUESS I WOULD, UM, UH, PREFER THAT WE PUT MORE SIGNS AND MORE, UH, ON, ON STREETS, UM, ERRING ON THE SIDE OF HAVING MORE SIGNS ON STREETS AS OPPOSED TO ON TRAILS. I WOULD ASSUME THAT PEOPLE ARE ON, IF THEY'RE ON, UM, PARTICULAR TRAILS. I, AND I THINK THOSE HAVE MORE OF A VANDALISM PROBLEM, IT SOUNDS LIKE. SO, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I'D LIKE TO, TO ME, I, I'M KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT THE IDEA, IDEA OF THESE BEING SOMEWHAT OF A, UM, ADVERTISEMENT OF OTHER WAYS OF GETTING AROUND TOWN. UM, AND I GUESS FOR THAT REASON, UM, MAYBE I'LL JUST BE THE CONTRARIAN TONIGHT. I, I ACTUALLY KIND OF PREFER THE, THE BIKE WALK ROLL. I THINK GO PETALUMA IS A LITTLE TOO VAGUE. LIKE, GO WHERE OR WHAT? I DON'T KNOW, LIKE WHAT DOES THAT SIGN MEAN? UM, IN AND OF ITSELF, I GUESS IF YOU PUT A BIKE ON IT, MAYBE IT'S A LITTLE MORE CLEAR, BUT I KIND OF LIKE BIKE, BIKE, WALK, ROLL. WE'RE ALREADY USING THAT IN OTHER WAYS. I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR WHAT IT MEANS. UM, I GUESS SO ALSO PREFER THE LIGHTER BACKGROUND. UM, AND I GUESS I WOULD BE CURIOUS IF WE COULD USE REFLECTIVE PAINT OR SOMETHING. SO THESE ARE, ARE VERY VISIBLE AT NIGHT. I THINK THAT'S ALSO, UM, A NICE FEATURE IF WE CAN DO THAT. UM, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S INTENDED TO BE KIND OF A MODULAR DESIGN. SO EACH OF THESE, LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING THERE ON THE LEFT, LIKE I ASSUME EACH OF THOSE IS MOVABLE, REPLACEABLE. I CAN ADD MORE. SO LIKE, UH, IF THE NORTH SMART STATION BECOMES LIKE A, A NEW DESTINATION, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADD THINGS LIKE THAT ONTO IT. UM, I THINK THOSE ARE THE MAIN THINGS. UM, YEAH, JUST REITERATING WHETHER PEOPLE SAID MAKING SURE SPRAY PAINT CAN MAYBE EASILY REMOVED, UH, SIMPLE DESIGN THAT CAN BE EASILY PRODUCED AND REPLACED. UH, DEFINITELY DON'T WANT ANYTHING CUSTOM THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THEORY, OUR SIGN SHOP, ONCE IT'S UPDATED, UH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE, I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR, UM, FUTURE SIGNS AND REPLACEMENTS. UH, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT TRAIL SIGNS, UH, MAYBE BEING A PLACE TO INFORM PEOPLE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO, UM, SOMETHING TO REMIND CYCLISTS, ESPECIALLY WITH MORE E-BIKES AROUND, TO BE COURTEOUS OF PEDESTRIANS USING A BELL AND REMIND PEOPLE IF THEY'RE GONNA ZIP PAST A PEDESTRIAN AT 28 MILES AN HOUR, THAT THAT MIGHT STARTLE PEOPLE. UM, SO I, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE CYCLISTS TO BE COURTEOUS MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ON TRAILS. THANK YOU. WELL SAID. UH, AMBER, AGAIN, I LIKE TO KEEP TO THE RECTANGULAR DESIGN. WE DO NOT NEED TO BE DOING CRAZY CUTS THAT ARE GONNA COST MORE MONEY. UM, I LIKE THE PEDESTRIAN STAR AND THE BIKE. I'M NOT A FAN OF THE BIKE WALK ROLL. I THINK IT GETS A LITTLE TOO BUSY AND GETS A LITTLE DILUTED. THE LIGHT BACKGROUND IS A GOOD WAY TO GO. WE'VE MENTIONED HAVING THE, THE PARTNERSHIP FOR THE OTHER TRAILS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. HAVE WE LOOKED AT ALL IN DOING SPONSORSHIPS WHERE, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN AREA OF TOWN OR A BUSINESS COULD SPONSOR PART OF THE SIGN? NOT IN SOMEWHAT OF AN ADVERTISING ASPECT. UM, HAVE WE LOOKED INTO ANYTHING LIKE THAT? UM, I AM, I'M JUST REALLY SUPER EXCITED TO SEE HOW FAR YOU'VE COME IN THE PROCESS THERE. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THERE MAY BE, UH, RULES THAT PROHIBIT US FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, BASICALLY PLACING ADVERTISEMENTS ON, YOU KNOW, LIKE A CITY SIGN FOR EXAMPLE. I'M SURE THERE'S SOME, SOME GUARDRAILS AROUND THAT. UH, BUT I DO WONDER IF MAYBE LIKE A KIND OF A SEP SIMILAR, A RELATED IDEA, BUT, UH, PARTIALLY SEPARATE LIKE AN ADOPT A TRAIL KIND OF SITUATION THAT COULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, COULD, COULD, UH, CREATE STEWARDSHIP NOT ONLY FOR THE, THESE WAY FINDING SIGNS, BUT ALSO OTHER, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST THE TRAILS AS A WHOLE. JUST THINKING OF OTHER NONPROFITS IN TOWN, WOULD THEY HAVE OTHER BUCKETS OF MONEY [02:20:01] TO PULL FROM THAT THE CITY DOESN'T? COULD THE BLUE ZONE GROUP SOMEHOW PULL FROM A FA A BUCKET THAT YOU CAN'T PULL FROM? COULD THE DOWNTOWN ASSOCIATION, THE PDA, HAVE SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT THEY COULD LOOK FOR OTHER THINGS AND MAYBE GET THEM TO SPONSOR SOME SIGNS IF IT CAN'T BE TECHNICALLY ADVERTISING EVEN THE PETA HEALTHCARE DISTRICT, PETA VALLEY HOSPITAL? IS THERE WAYS THAT THEY COULD PULL IN FUNDING? NOBODY HAS FUNDING, BUT THERE'S MONEY OUT THERE SOMEWHERE. YEAH. GREAT. GREAT QUESTION. I'LL DEFINITELY, UH, LOOK INTO THAT. ALL RIGHT, ADAM. ALL RIGHT. UM, FOR, I APOLOGIZE, I'M GONNA HAVE TO LEAVE AFTER THESE COMMENTS. UM, BUT, UH, LET'S SEE, THE, I GUESS THE DESIGN THAT I THINK IS THE MOST AESTHETICALLY APPEALING IS THE LOWER LEFT ONE THAT KIND OF MIMICS THAT ROOF LINE, UM, BETWEEN ALL THE OTHER ONES I DO. YEAH. LIKE THAT HIGH CONTRAST, GO PETALUMA. SOUNDS FINE. I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A, A BICYCLIST AND, UH, PERSON WALKING. THEN IT'S YEAH, A LITTLE MORE INTUITIVE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. GO AND GET OUT. UM, AND THEN, YEAH, I THINK I, I THINK AT ONE POINT I WANTED LIKE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS SAVED BY HOW MUCH DISTANCE YOU TRAVELED. SO, YOU KNOW, EVEN JUST HAVING, YEAH, MINUTES AND MILES IS PROBABLY FINE, I THINK. DON'T HAVE TO GO THAT FAR, BUT, SO YEAH, THAT'S, BUT I HAD IN MIND. UH, AND YEAH, I DEFINITELY LIKE THE MODULAR DESIGN, ANYTHING TO MAKE IT EASY ON FOLKS. UM, BUT YEAH, SORRY, FAMILY DUTIES. YEP. GOOD. THANKS FOR JOINING US. UH, IT'S YOUR TURN FOR COMMENTS, JASON. UM, LIKE I SAID, I'M GONNA SAVE MY COMMENTS FOR KIND OF A WRITEUP. UM, LOOKING AT THIS, UM, UH, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, AGAIN, ABOUT CONTRAST AND, AND WHAT, UH, EXPLORATIONS THEY'VE DONE VIA CONTRAST. I DON'T LOVE THE VISUAL FRAMING. I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT, IT'S BUSY AND IT COMPLICATES THE DESIGN. UM, IN ADDITION TO THE, YOU KNOW, THE CUTOUT DESIGN, UM, I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S, UM, I, I, I LOVE THAT IT BORROWS ASPECTS FROM DOWNTOWN PETALUMA AND FROM THE CITY ITSELF. UH, BUT I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WAY FINDING AND SAFETY AND HELPFULNESS. AND I, I LIKE, FOR ME, THE VISUAL FRAMING WITH THAT DOESN'T ADD TO THIS. UM, I THINK THAT LOOKING AT BOULDER AND PORTLAND AND SOME OF THE OTHER PLACES, THEY'RE USING, UM, UH, A LIGHT ON BLACK OR A LIGHT ON DARK AS OPPOSED TO A, UH, A DARK ON LIGHT CONTRAST. AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE ADVANTAGE, THERE ADVANTAGES THERE IN LOW LIGHT AND ADVANTAGES THERE FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR TAGGING YOUR GRAFFITI AND STICKERS. UM, BUT I'M GONNA DO THE RESEARCH AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, DO, DO A LITTLE BIT OF A WRITEUP. UM, JUST HAVING THE BACKGROUND, HAVING A BACKGROUND IN GRAPHIC DESIGN AND KNOWING WHAT THIS PROCESS LOOKS LIKE, UM, I DON'T LOVE THE, THE, UM, AGAIN, IT FEELS THESE EXECUTIONS, THIS DESIGN EXECUTION FEELS BUSY TO ME WHERE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIMPLIFY, MAKE LESS EXPENSIVE, AND ALSO DEAL WITH SOME OF THE, UM, THE VANDALISM CONCERNS WE HAVE. BUT AGAIN, I'LL JUST SAVE THAT FOR A ANOTHER TIME, OR ACTUALLY AN ACTUAL WRITEUP. OKAY. AND FRANK, ANY COMMENTS YOU HAVE ON THIS? YEAH, UH, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL KIND OF ECHO THAT A LITTLE BIT. I, UM, AS I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE DESIGNS HERE AND JUST THE OPTIONS OF THE, YOU KNOW, GO PETALUMA WHITE BIKE, WALK ROLL, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, UH, LIKE I THINK IT WOULD BE OKAY IF IT JUST SAID PETALUMA AND, AND YOU COULD POTENTIALLY, UM, SHRINK IT A LITTLE BIT AND GIVE MORE SPACE TO THE ACTUAL WAY FINDING PIECE. I THINK IT LOOKS NICE. UM, I, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE, NOT NOT BEING A GRAPHIC DESIGNER, IT, I THINK IT LOOKS FINE, BUT I THINK, UM, IT, IT COULD, I THINK IT WOULD, COULD BENEFIT FROM BEING SIMPLIFIED A LITTLE BIT. UM, IN TERMS OF THE SIGN FAMILY, I, YOU KNOW, I, I LIKE THE OVERALL FAMILY. I LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DIFFERENT SIGNS IN THE GROUP. I SEE THEM AS BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, USED FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES. UM, I DON'T, UH, THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE CUSTOMIZED SIGNS. UM, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE DISTANCE AND TIME, UM, I, YOU KNOW, I PREFER, UH, JUST THE DISTANCE AND HAVING A LITTLE LARGER FONT. [02:25:01] UM, AGAIN, LESS CUSTOM APPROACH. I'D LIKE TO STRIKE THE RIGHT BALANCE BETWEEN COST AND AESTHETIC. UH, I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS IN TERMS OF THE RIGHT COLOR, BUT I WOULD LEAN TOWARDS COLOR WEAR ABILITY, AND THE THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING THROUGH MY MIND LIMIT THE IMPACT OF SUN FADE. I'D RATHER HAVE SOMETHING THAT LOOKS OKAY IN FIVE YEARS THAN SOMETHING THAT LOOKS GREAT NOW AND COMPLETELY SUN FADED IN FIVE YEARS. UM, SIMPLER IS BETTER, UH, IF YOU, IF IF, IF YOU, IF YOU DECIDED TO GO WITH SOMETHING OTHER THAN JUST PETALUMA, I WOULD, UH, WHAT STOOD OUT TO ME IS JUST THE GO PETALUMA, UH, TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, FEEL, YOU KNOW, UNIVERSAL. AND AGAIN, JUST, YOU KNOW, SIMPLER IS BETTER. UM, AND I LIKE THE ADVERTISING IDEA. WE DO IT WITH TRANSIT. AND SO, AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT MORE WITH TRANSIT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE IT ENOUGH WITH TRANSIT. AND SO IF THERE WAS A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT ADOPT A BIKE TRAIL OR, YOU KNOW, ADOPT A BIKE LANE THAT'LL GO OVER, UM, GO BACK TO THE SENTENCE. YEAH. UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO THERE TO RAISE FUNDS AND NOT HAVE IT BE OVERLY BURDENSOME ON STAFF TO, TO MANAGE, UM, I THINK WOULD BE GREAT. I LIKE THE IDEA OF, OF, UH, PARTNERING WITH, UH, NONPROFITS TO MAYBE HELP WITH IT. UH, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT HEALTHY PETALUMA BLUE ZONES, UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, I'M SURE THERE'S OTHERS THAT, UH, UM, THAT WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, BE INTERESTED. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, FRANK. UM, I, I DON'T HAVE, UH, ANY STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THE DESIGN AESTHETICS AND STUFF. UM, UH, THEY'LL SECOND ONE, FRANK SAID, JUST, JUST HAVING TO SAY PETALUMA IS GOOD ENOUGH, I THINK, OR, UM, I DON'T LOVE GO PETALUMA, BUT MOVE PETALUMA OR ACTIVE PETALUMA, PETALUMA MOVES. SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. BUT, UH, YEAH, NO, NO STRONG FEELINGS THERE. SO IT'S, UH, END OF MY COMMENTS. UH, IT'S VERY NICE. LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THESE SIGNS OUT THERE. CAN I HAVE ONE MORE? AND AMBER, GO FOR IT. QR CODES, AND WE ALSO, UM, PETALUMA HAS DONE A WHOLE PIECE, I'M SORRY, I'M, I AM ON THE HISTORIC SIDE OF PETALUMA. I WANNA DO THAT. PETALUMA, I BELIEVE THE MUSEUM'S DONE A WHOLE QR CODE ON HISTORICAL PLACES AND HISTORICAL BUILDINGS, AND IN THE AREA, IT WOULD BE NEAT TO HAVE ONE CORNER THAT IF YOU'RE WITHIN THREE BLOCKS OF THE LIBRARY OR A HISTORICAL PIECE, IT MIGHT BE AN ADDITIONAL NEAT THING FOR WALKING TOURS. YEAH. YEAH. GO AHEAD, JOANNA. I JUST WANNA CAUTION WITH THE QR CODES, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF SCAM WITH THOSE, AND YOU'RE JUST RUNNING THE, THAT SOMEONE PUTS A STICKER OVER IT AND IT GOES TO SOME SCAM. LIKE THERE'S A RISK NOW. YEAH. AND WEB LINKS DO DIE OVER TIME. UM, UH, OKAY. I THINK ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC? NO, THAT WAS ALL ALL REALLY HELPFUL. I APPRECIATE THE DETAILED, UH, FEEDBACK ON, ON KIND OF ALL, ALL FACETS THAT I, OR ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, AREAS THAT, ALL THE THINGS THEY GAVE US TO, TO CHEW ON. SO, UM, THIS WAS GREAT. AND I'LL, UH, PASS THIS BACK TO THEM. THANK YOU YARN. AND NOW WE CAN MOVE ON [COMMITTEE COMMENT] TO GENERAL COMMITTEE COMMENT. UH, DURING COMMITTEE COMMENT, MEMBERS ARE INVITED TO BRIEFLY SHARE UPDATES RELEVANT TO THIS COMMITTEE, COMMITTEE, INCLUDING LIAISON REPORTS FROM OTHER CITY BODIES, AND MAKE REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DIALOGUE BETWEEN MEMBERS SHOULD BE LIMITED TO CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM. , GO AHEAD, FRANK. YEAH, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR, UH, AND AGAIN, I KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS COMMENT'S RELATED TO CARS. UM, BUT I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU ANYTIME THAT WE CAN MAKE THE DRIVING PUBLIC HAPPY. UM, I THINK IT'S A, UH, AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT CAN BE A GOOD THING, BUT THE, THE ANGLE PARKING, UH, IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THE, UM, OUT OF THE PARKING MANAGEMENT PLAN, I THINK IS A GOOD THING. UM, AND SO JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT. I ALSO WANTED TO SHARE THAT, UH, UM, WE, COUNCIL JUST APPROVED, UM, AN ITEM ON, UH, MONDAY NIGHT'S COUNCIL, UH, TO PURCHASE FIVE ELECTRIC BUSES. SO THAT'LL BE, UM, OUR SECOND SET OF FIVE ELECTRIC BUSES. AND I'M SURE BASED ON THE TIMING, YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE, UH, MAYBE SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR BEFORE THOSE COME INTO THE FLEET, [02:30:01] BUT, UH, BUT THAT WAS A GOOD THING. SO, YEAH. ALRIGHT. UH, THANKS FOR SHARING. AMBER. ANY GENERAL COMMENTS? JUST A QUESTION. WILL WE BE LOOKING AT THE PARKLET SUBJECT THAT CAME UP? UM, YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY AGENDIZE THAT. UM, I DO THINK, SO THERE'S, THERE'S WORK UNDERWAY IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, UM, WHICH IS WORKING ON SORT OF A PERMANENT PARKLET PROGRAM. UM, AND I THINK, SO THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN BE OBVIOUSLY LEVERAGED FROM THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE REALLY THE MAIN ASK IS BROADENING THAT SO THAT PARKLETS CAN ALSO BE, UM, UH, IMPLEMENTED IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS KIND OF OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF BUSINESS DISTRICTS. RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THE ASK WAS. UH, I DID LOOK THROUGH THE PDF THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO US AND THERE WAS KIND OF A SECONDARY PIECE, UH, AS WELL AS PARKLETS. UM, THERE'S AN INTEREST IN, AND, AND, UH, I THINK NATHAN DESCRIBED IT, UM, JUST, UH, BEAUTIFYING SOME OF OUR BULL BOUTS, UM, WITH, UM, WHETHER THEY'RE PLANTERS OR MURALS AND, AND CREATING A PROGRAM THROUGH WHICH PEOPLE COULD BASICALLY ADOPT SOME OF OUR PAINTED BULL BOUTS THAT WE'VE DONE. UM, SO I THINK, UH, I THINK I'M, I'M REALLY EXCITED BY THAT OPPORTUNITY. AND, UM, I THINK, YEAH, WE COULD DEFINITELY AGENDIZE A DISCUSSION ON, ON BOTH. I'D PROBABLY SEEK, I'M NOT PUBLIC WORKS IS REALLY NOT THE OWNER OF THE PARKLETS THAT'S MORE IN OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, BUT I'LL, UM, WE CAN, UH, UH, COMBINE FORCES AND MAYBE, UH, HAVE THEM PRESENT HERE OR MAYBE IT MAKES SENSE TO DO A JOINT MEETING IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE GOING TO PLANNING COMMISSION, FOR EXAMPLE. SO I'LL SEE WHAT'S GOING ON ELSEWHERE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND, AND, UH, WE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET IT BACK IN FRONT OF THE COMMITTEE. AND THE SAME PARKLET DISCUSSION, WAS THERE A GIVEN TIMELINE FOR THE COVID PARKLETS THAT WERE GIVEN TO RESTAURANTS? I'M NOT THE RIGHT PERSON TO ASK . OKAY. YEAH. , SORRY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD, DAVID. UH, I WAS, SORRY, I WAS GONNA BRING THAT UP ALSO. IT'D BE GREAT TO GET IT AGENDA. I THINK, UH, UM, THE FACT THAT THERE'S SIMILAR PROGRAMS IN OTHER CITIES THAT WE CAN TRY TO MODEL OFF OF AND MAYBE DEVELOP SOMETHING HERE, I THINK IS, IS A, YOU KNOW, NICE PLACE TO START. UM, SO I WAS GONNA BRING THAT ONE, I'LL BRING THAT ONE UP AS WELL. UH, JUST TWO OTHER THINGS. UH, I JOINED THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL, UM, TASK FORCE MEETING THIS MORNING THAT, UH, BJORN WAS AT. AND JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE ACHIEVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE THERE, ESPECIALLY WITH SCHOOLS STARTING NEXT WEEK. UM, A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE INTO, UH, QUICK BUILDS AROUND CITIES, I I AROUND SCHOOLS. I FORGET, UM, THE STATS THAT YOU QUOTED AT THAT MEETING, BJORN, BUT IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF WORK THAT'S GONE IN AND I, I JUST SAW LIKE THE CROSSWALK BY, UH, THE HIGH SCHOOL TODAY. SO IT'S, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, APPLAUDING THAT. AND, UM, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT MEETING THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, ONGOING WORK AND THERE'LL BE CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT. SO, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH SCHOOL, GOING BACK NEXT WEEK WAS TOP OF MIND. UH, AND THEN JUST REALLY QUICK, I'VE BEEN PARTICIPATING IN THE, UM, NORTH SMART STATION SPECIFIC PLAN WORKING GROUP, AND, UM, IT'S A LOT OF INTERESTING STUFF. IT'S, IT'S A VERY BROAD, UM, STUDY AREA. IT'S ONE AND A HALF MILE RADIUS AROUND THE NORTH SMART STATION, AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN MCDOWELL TO WASHINGTON. SO IT'S A MUCH LARGER AREA, A LOT OF POTENTIAL, UH, EXCITING THINGS ON THE PLATE THERE. I GUESS IT'LL BE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE DEVIL WILL BE IN THE DETAILS AND WE'LL SEE WHAT COMES OUT OF THAT. UM, BUT IT'S, THE, THE PLAN, I THINK IS BACK WITH THE CONSULTANT RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE, THEY'RE FLESHING IT ALL OUT. UM, SO I'LL BE REPORTING BACK HERE, UH, AS THINGS HAPPEN THERE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO, UM, I DON'T THINK I'VE MENTIONED THAT, THAT I'M ON THAT, UM, WORKING GROUP, UM, HERE YET. SO, UM, STAY TUNED THERE. AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL FOR ME. THANK YOU, DAVID. JOANNA, NO COMMENT TONIGHT. UH, BRIAN, UM, OKAY. UH, YEAH, I'M TIRED TOO. SO , LET'S, LET'S TURN THIS OVER [STAFF COMMENT] TO STAFF COMMENT SECTION. ALRIGHT. OOPS, SORRY. ADDING ONE SLIDE REALLY QUICKLY THAT I REALIZED WOULD BE HELPFUL, AND NOW I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN, UM, WHILE I OPEN THIS UP TOO, I'LL JUST MENTION, UH, I DON'T HAVE IT IN HERE, BUT, UM, WE DID GET THE, UM, WE DID HEAR FROM S-C-T-C-A ON THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUNDING FROM CYCLE TWO OF THE S-C-T-C-A FUNDING PROGRAM. YOU MAY RECALL WE SUBMITTED OUR TOP ALL, ALL THE CITIES IN SONOMA COUNTY WERE ASKED TO SUBMIT OUR TOP FIVE PRIORITY PROJECTS. UM, THE FIVE WE SUBMITTED WERE, UM, CORONA IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CORONA ROAD OVERCROSSING FOR PEOPLE WALKING AND BIKING. UM, SORRY, I DON'T, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. MY ZOOM WINDOW HERE. UM, UH, THE SMART PATHWAY EXTENSION FROM LAKEVILLE TO WATER STREET, UH, [02:35:01] THE PETALUMA RIVER TRAIL UNDER 1 0 1 AND THE SMART TRACKS, UH, AND THEN TWO PAVING PROJECTS, ONE ON EAST WASHINGTON, ONE ON CASA GRANDE ROAD. UH, AND THEN WE JUST HEARD BACK AFTER A VERY LONG EVALUATION PROCESS WHERE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY LOOKING AT THE MERITS OF EACH OF THESE PROJECTS, BUT ALSO TRYING TO MATCH THEM WITH THE BEST FUNDING SOURCES THAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE, UH, IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. AND, UH, SO WE WERE RECOMMENDED FULL FUNDING ON THE SMART PATHWAY EXTENSION FROM LAKEVILLE WATER STREET, UM, UH, WHICH WOULD MEAN WE COULD, UH, IMPLEMENT THAT PROJECT WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. UH, WE WERE ALSO RECOMMENDED FOR WHAT'S THE TIME OF 500, THE MISSING 500, THE MISSING 500 AS THE MAYOR, UH, LIKES TO CALL IT. UH, WE WERE RECOMMENDED SOME SEED FUNDING FOR, UH, THE CORONA OVERCROSSING A MILLION DOLLARS TO HELP US CONTINUE TO ADVANCE, UM, THE DESIGN ON THAT PROJECT. AND THEN WE WERE RECOMMENDED FOR $4 MILLION FOR PAVING, UM, EAST WASHINGTON STREET. UH, AND SO AGAIN, THOSE ARE JUST, THOSE ARE THE INITIAL STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT, UM, ALL OF THAT WILL BE FINALIZED. IT'LL KIND OF WORK THROUGH THE, UH, THE ADVISORY BODIES AT S-C-T-C-A AND THEN GO TO THEIR BOARD FOR ADOPTION IN, UM, I BELIEVE IN SEPTEMBER. UH, AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF LEARN MORE AND, AND BEGIN TO START SETTING SCHEDULES UP FOR THOSE PROJECTS WITH, UH, AS THE FUNDS BECOME AVAILABLE. UM, SO SOME GOOD NEWS TO SHARE THERE THOUGH, UH, AND, AND HAPPY TO SHARE THAT, THAT NEWS ESPECIALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THE, ON THE, THE LATE, THE SMART, UH, EXTENSION, I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A, A REALLY HIGH PRIORITY. SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S EXCITING. UM, SO NOW FOR SOME QUICK UPDATES, UH, WE HAVE BEEN, HAD A VERY BUSY SUMMER. JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME PHOTOS, UH, FROM RAINIER, WHICH IS, UH, HAS, IS OFFICIALLY COMPLETE. UM, UH, GOT SOME PHOTOS HERE OF SOME OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPENING THERE AT THE ROUNDABOUT. WE'VE NOW GOT THE LANDSCAPING INSTALLED, SO THAT'LL LOOK GOOD, ESPECIALLY AS IT, UH, AS IT ALL MATURES. OOPS, THAT DIDN'T ADVANCE MY SLIDE. THAT WOULD HELP. UM, SO HERE'S SOME PHOTOS THERE. UH, JUST WANT TO KIND OF OF CALL OUT A COUPLE DESIGN ELEMENTS THERE. I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING ABOUT, ABOUT, UM, SOME OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPENING THERE. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE, UM, IS WE'VE, WE'VE BASICALLY CREATED TWO OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE TO NAVIGATE THE ROUNDABOUT BY BIKE. UM, YOU CAN EITHER, UM, YOU CAN EITHER STAY IN THE BIKE LANE WHERE YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROTECTION, YOU'RE KIND OF STAYING ALONG THE CURB. WE DO HAVE A SMALL SORT OF ROUNDED CURB THERE IN THE, IN THE BUFFER, UH, AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE ROUNDABOUT. UM, AND THEN YOU CAN USE IT ESSENTIALLY AS A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING. YOU KNOW, WE'VE PROGRAMMED ALL THE CROSSWALKS WITH GREEN PAINT. UM, YOU CAN, YOU CAN CROSS AT THE CROSSWALKS BASICALLY GOING AROUND THE PERIMETER. UM, OR AS YOU'RE APPROACHING THE ROUNDABOUT, YOU CAN ALSO, UM, JUST GO OUT AND, AND TAKE THE LANE, RIGHT? AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S, THAT GOES FOR ANY OF THE, ALL OF THE APPROACHES ARE OPEN. UM, MEANING, YOU KNOW, FOR BOTH OF THE RAINIER APPROACHES, WE'VE GOT BUS STOPS, SO WE DO NOT HAVE THE CURB THERE AS YOU'RE APPROACHING THE ROUNDABOUT. UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY ON MARIA, IT'S JUST STANDARD BIKE LANE. SO THAT OPTION DOES EXIST, UH, IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU'D PREFER TO, UH, UH, DO IT THAT WAY. I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE LEAVING THE ROUNDABOUT, UM, ONTO RAINIER, IF YOU'RE EXITING THE ROUNDABOUT ONTO RAINIER, UM, AND YOU'VE TAKEN THE LANE, JUST BE SURE TO GET BACK IN THAT BIKE LANE. UM, UH, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'VE GOT THE, THE SECTION OF CURB THAT STARTS UP THERE, UM, ON, ON RAINIER, AT LEAST GOING EASTBOUND. UM, AND THEN ONE OTHER NOTE, JUST, WE DID END UP HAVING TO ADD SPEED CUSHIONS IN, UM, UH, DURING THE, DURING THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, OUR TALKING TO OUR INSPECTORS AND, UH, GOING OUT THERE AND JUST KIND OF WATCHING TRAFFIC, UH, ENTERING THE ROUNDABOUT. AND WE FELT THAT PEOPLE ON RAINIER WERE JUST ENTERING THE ROUNDABOUT AT, UH, IT JUST, THEY WERE, THEY WERE GOING TOO FAST, ENTERING THE ROUNDABOUT. SO, UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE, YOU KNOW, PULLED OUT TO TRY TO HELP SLOW PEOPLE AS THEY ENTER. THE ROUNDABOUT WASN'T REALLY AN ISSUE ON RA ON MARIA, BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY AN ISSUE ON RAINIER. AND SO, UH, YOU CAN SEE HERE WE'VE GOT TWO SETS OF SPEED CUSHIONS. WE DO HAVE A GAP IN THE MIDDLE FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT ALLOWS EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO BASICALLY, UM, UH, TO, TO CLEAR, CLEAR THEM WITHOUT HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, HIT THE BUMP. UM, BUT SOMETHING THAT HOPEFULLY AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, JUST GRABS DRIVER'S ATTENTION AND, AND KIND OF SLOWS THEM DOWN AS THEY TO A MORE APPROPRIATE SPEED ENTERING THE ROUNDABOUT. UM, AND YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE TO CALL OUT AT THAT ROUNDABOUT. UM, AND THEN JUST A COUPLE QUICK BEFORE AND AFTERS. UH, THIS IS AT [02:40:01] ACADIA DRIVE FACING, UM, WESTBOUND, UH, AND YOU CAN SEE JUST THE HUGE EXPANSE THERE BEFORE NO CROSSWALK. UM, WE'VE NOW GOT FLASHING BEACONS ON ALL THE CROSSWALKS ON RAINIER, UM, AND WE'VE GOT CROSSWALKS AT, AT EVERY INTERSECTION, I BELIEVE ON RAINIER NOW, UM, WHICH WASN'T THE CASE BEFORE. AND, UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WITH WAYFINDING WILL BECOME, UH, AN EFFECTIVE LITTLE TOOL. UM, THESE ARE TWO STAGE TURN BOXES. UM, WE PUT THEM IN AT ACADIA ONLY BECAUSE ACADIA IS PART OF OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK. UH, SO THE IDEA HERE IS THAT THIS IS, UM, IT'S A BOTH A VISUAL CUE AND IT'S A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE A LEFT TURN. SO INSTEAD OF GOING OUT AND GETTING INTO THE LEFT TURN LANE, JUST TRAVEL ACROSS THE INTERSECTION AND KIND OF FLIP AROUND, YOU KNOW, GIVE YOURSELF, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKE A LOOK AT THE, THE ONCOMING TRAFFIC THAT WAS BEHIND YOU. UM, LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC COMING FROM THE OTHER DIRECTION, AND THEN WHEN IT'S SAFE, BASICALLY JUST CROSS, UM, IN, SO IT'S EFFECTIVELY LIKE A TWO STAGE TURN. UH, AND THAT'S HOW I'D RECOMMEND REALLY MAKING ANY LEFTS ON RAINIER COMING OUT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE COMING, UM, UH, FROM THE CURB PROTECTED SIDE, UM, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. AND THEN HERE'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN THE OTHER DIRECTION. OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT THE CURB PROTECTION NOW, UM, GOING EASTBOUND AND THEN MOVING ON TO, AND THAT'S JUST A COUPLE. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY GO OUT, CHECK IT OUT YOURSELVES. UM, EAGER TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON, ON RAINIER. UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WITH EACH PAVING PROJECT, WE KIND OF LEARN NEW THINGS AND WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO GET BETTER. UM, THIS WAS THE OTHER MAJOR CHANGE THAT WE HAVE MADE SINCE MEETING, UH, THIS IS ON RIESLING ROAD. WE HAD A LOT OF REQUESTS FROM, UM, FROM, UH, CORONA CREEK, UH, SCHOOL AND, AND WE HAD A FEW COMMENTS FROM PARENTS AND, AND RESIDENTS WHO WANTED TO SEE THE SIDEWALK GAP CLOSED BETWEEN THE TWO SCHOOLS. AND, AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT LONG-TERM, LONGER TERM PROJECT, BUT WE DID SEE AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE NEAR TERM TO, UM, UH, EFFECTIVELY ACHIEVE THAT AND, AND IMPROVE BIKE SAFETY BETWEEN THE TWO SCHOOLS WITH, UH, PROTECTED PARKING PROTECTED TWO-WAY CYCLE TRACK. SO WE'VE BASICALLY JUST TAKEN SOME OF THE EXCESS ROAD WIDTH THAT WE HAD OUT THERE BEFORE. WE HAD, YOU KNOW, STRIPED BIKE LANES IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. WE PUSHED 'EM BOTH TO ONE SIDE OF THE STREET. UM, THIS IS NOW THE PARKING LANE. UH, YOU'VE STILL GOT PARKING ON BOTH SIDES, UH, LANES IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. IT'S DEFINITELY FEELS TIGHT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING IT, I THINK, I THINK WE'LL SEE THE, HOPEFULLY SEE THE SPEEDS COME DOWN QUITE A BIT BECAUSE IT, IT IS, IT IS, UH, EVERYTHING IS KIND OF AT ITS MINIMUM WIDTH NOW. UM, BUT, UH, AND THEN WE WILL, BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS, UM, NEXT MONDAY ACTUALLY, OUR CONTRACTOR WILL BE OUT THERE ADDING DELINEATORS IN BETWEEN THE PARKING LANE AND THE CYCLE TRACK. UH, AND THEN AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH SECTION OF PARKING, THERE WILL BE A SIGN THAT POINTS SHOWS PARKING TO THE LEFT, BIKES TO THE RIGHT, UM, JUST TO HELP REALLY HOPEFULLY MAKE IT, UH, UH, CLEAR FOR, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY FOR PARENTS COMING OUT THERE NEXT WEEK AND DROPPING THEIR KIDS OFF AT SCHOOL. AND THEN, UM, DAVID MENTIONED OUR SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL, UH, QUICK BUILD IMPROVEMENTS. WE HAVE EFFECTIVELY COMPLETED IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE LOW HANGING FRUIT IMPROVEMENTS NEAR ALL, UM, PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN PETALUMA. UM, AND SO THROUGH THESE IMPROVEMENTS, WE'VE REDUCED SCHOOL ZONE SPEED LIMITS, UH, DOWN TO 15 MILES AN HOUR, OR IN SOME CASES, 20 OR 25, DEPENDING ON THE STREET CHARACTERISTICS, UM, IN 18 DIFFERENT SCHOOL ZONES. AND THAT COVERS ABOUT 500 FEET. UH, WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE CAMPUSES IS WHERE WE SIGN THOSE. UH, WE HAVE PROHIBITED PARKING AT 77 INTERSECTIONS AND CROSSWALKS, UH, INSTALLED NEW OR ENHANCED CROSSWALKS, UM, AT, UH, OR 81 NEW OR ENHANCED CROSSWALKS. AND THEN WE'VE ALSO INSTALLED THREE MILES OF BIKEWAYS AND EDGE LINES IN PROXIMITY, UH, TWO SCHOOLS. UM, AND THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE PROJECTS LIKE RAINIER, JUST LOOKING AT THE IMMEDIATE KIND OF SCHOOL SURROUNDINGS, UM, ALTHOUGH RAINIER IS VERY CLOSE TO A LOT OF SCHOOLS. SO, UM, YEAH, THIS WAS THE CULMINATION OF THE LAST THREE YEARS OF WORK FOR US WITH THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL TASK FORCE. UM, AGAIN, WE, YOU KNOW, WE AUDITED EVERY PUBLIC SCHOOL IN THE CITY TOOK AWAY KIND OF, UH, THE, THAT FIRST PASS OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE FELT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD MAKE AND NEEDED TO BE MADE. AND, UH, UH, AS I TOLD SCHOOL LEADERSHIP TODAY AND, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO CONVEY, WE WANT THIS TO BE AN ITERATIVE PROCESS. WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO COME OUT, [02:45:01] UM, AND CONTINUE TO LOOK AT SAFETY AND, UM, AND ACCESS AT ALL OF THESE SCHOOLS. SO, UM, SO MORE TO COME, BUT THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, BASICALLY KIND OF FIRST PHASE SAYING WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH DONE. UM, AND I DID JUST WANT TO SHARE THIS FOR YOUR AWARENESS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE, UH, ANY STUDENTS, UH, OR YOUR PARENTS, NO PARENTS AT ANY OF THESE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE NOT ENROLLED. UM, THESE ARE THE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE ENROLLED IN THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL PROGRAM TO RECEIVE BOTH EDUCATIONAL AND ENCOURAGEMENT SUPPORT, UH, FOR THEIR STUDENTS. UM, AND THEN OF THOSE, UH, NOT ENROLLED, WE'VE GOT BOTH HIGH SCHOOLS, BOTH JUNIOR HIGHS, UM, LA CE, WHICH HISTORICALLY WE'VE HAD A HARD TIME GETTING TO ENROLL. UM, SOME OF THE MORE RURAL SCHOOLS LIKE PENNGROVE AND OLD ADOBE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THOSE MAKE SENSE, BUT, UM, WAS VERY SURPRISED TO SEE VALLEY VISTA ON THIS LIST. UM, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK WITH 'EM, UM, A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED IN THAT. SO HOPEFULLY THEY DO ENROLL. UH, AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST SCHOOLS THAT RECEIVE COMPLETELY FREE TO THEM SUPPORT FROM SONOMA COUNTY SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL, WHICH DOES INCREDIBLE WORK. UM, BOTH ON THE ENCOURAGEMENT FRONT, GETTING MORE KIDS EXCITED ABOUT WALKING, BIKING TO SCHOOL THROUGH, YOU KNOW, EVENTS. UM, BUT ALSO, UH, THEY'RE THE ONES DOING THE BIKE RODEOS, YOU KNOW, THE FOURTH GRADE BIKE RODEOS, SECOND GRADE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. UM, THEY'RE OFFERING A LOT OF E-BIKE SAFETY, UH, UH, EDUCATION FOR MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND HIGH SCHOOLS. SO WE'RE HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, HOPEFULLY AFTER TODAY'S MEETING, WE HAVE SOME MORE SCHOOLS THAT END UP ENROLLING WITH THEM. UM, BUT DID WANNA SHARE THIS FOR YOUR AWARENESS, BECAUSE OUR GOAL OUTTA THE CITY IS TO SEE EVERY SCHOOL ENROLLED. UM, AND THEN JUST LASTLY, SOME ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS. DON'T HAVE PHOTOS FOR YOU TODAY, BUT SOME OTHER THINGS WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SUMMER. UM, THE CROSSWALK AT, UH, CORONA CREEK TRAIL OF, OF CORONA CREEK TRAIL AT ELI ROAD NORTH, UM, WAS JUST ENHANCED WITH RAPID FLASHING BEACONS. UM, AND THAT'S A BUSY ONE THAT'S NEAR BOTH OF THOSE SCHOOLS UP THERE, CORONA CREEK AND KENNELWORTH. UM, WE ALSO, WHILE WE WERE ACTIVE ON RIESLING ROAD, HAD OUR CONCRETE CONTRACTOR GO OUT AND FIX SOME REALLY BADLY DAMAGED SIDEWALK, UM, UH, NEAR KENNELWORTH, UH, WHERE KENNELWORTH CAN ACCESS THE CORONA CREEK TRAIL, UH, WE INSTALLED A NEW CROSSWALK ACROSS BODEGA NEAR UPPERMAN PROSPECT. UH, THAT'S THE, NOW THE ONLY CROSSWALK ACROSS BODEGA BETWEEN WEBSTER AND HOWARD. UM, AND THEN, UH, LAST NIGHT AND TONIGHT WE HAVE BUFFERED BIKE LANES GOING IN ON LAKEVILLE BETWEEN, UH, THE BOULEVARD AND EAST WASHINGTON. AND, UH, WE GOT THAT PUBLIC COMMENT EARLIER REMINDING ME, UH, OF THE NEED FOR A BIKE BOX AT, UM, UH, LAKEVILLE AND D STREET. AND SO WHILE I WAS SITTING HERE, I TEXTED THE CONTRACTOR BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE OUT THERE TONIGHT AND THEY'LL BE ADDING THAT BIKE BOX. YEAH, , , . YEAH. UM, I'LL SEE. THERE WE GO. UM, AND I WILL SAY TOO, ON THE BIKE LANES, UM, WE REALLY MAXED OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE COULD DO THERE ON LAKEVILLE. UM, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISAPPOINTMENT THAT THE BIKE LANES DROP. SO, UH, WE'VE GOT BUFFERED BIKE LANES, UM, IN, IN BOTH DIRECTIONS FROM THE BOULEVARD TO THE TRAIN TRACKS, AND THEN AT THE TRAIN FROM THE TRAIN TRACKS TO WASHINGTON, THE ROADWAY DOES NARROW SIGNIFICANTLY. AND SO IN THAT SECTION, WE MADE THE DECISION TO, UM, JUST KEEP THE BIKE LANE GOING WESTBOUND, UH, AND THEN GOING EASTBOUND. UM, SO GOING TOWARDS THE SMART STATION, UH, ONCE YOU GET TO THE TRAIN TRACKS, THE BIKE LANE DROPS AND IT WILL BECOME, UH, UNFORTUNATELY WILL BE A SHARE. UM, ONE THING DID TRY TO DO THOUGH, IS RIGHT WHERE THE BIKE LANE DROPS, THAT'S RIGHT WHERE THE TRACKS ARE, AND THAT'S A REALLY AWKWARD CROSSING. SO, UM, THEY'RE PUTTING IN A SHERO RIGHT THERE, AND THEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY TURNING THE CHEVRON SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW TO HAVE A VISUAL CUE TO CROSS THE TRACKS AT THE RIGHT ANGLE AND THEN STRAIGHTEN BACK OUT AFTER THEY GET ACROSS THE TRACKS. UM, AND WE'LL ALSO ADD SOME SIGNAGE OUT THERE. HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, THE BIKES MAY USE FULL LANE SIGN BIKES, MERGING SIGNS. WE'LL, WE'LL BE, THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF SIGN CLUTTER OUT THERE, SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL BE WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR ON. UM, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE DOING THERE IS OUT THERE, UH, WHILE WE WERE LOOKING AT ALL THIS, UM, WE WERE SEEING A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THE TRUCK TURNING MOVEMENTS AT LAKEVILLE AND THE BOULEVARD. UM, IT'S, THAT'S A HEAVILY USED, UH, FREIGHT ROUTE, AND THOSE TRUCKS HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME MAKING THE RIGHT AND MAKING THE LEFT. SO [02:50:01] WE'RE, UM, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, WE, WE PULLED THE STOP BAR BACK 20 FEET AND IT WILL BE A NO RIGHT ON RED THERE. UM, AND JUST TO ALLOW FOR THOSE TURNING MOVEMENTS. UM, AND THEN ALSO THE BIKE LANE ON THAT SIDE WILL BE GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE INTERSECTION. THERE'S GONNA BE NO DOUBT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW A LOT OF PEOPLE KI TRY TO SNEAK IN WHERE THERE REALLY ISN'T A LANE AND MAKE THAT RIGHT TURN. THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THAT OPTION ANYMORE. IT'S GONNA BE A SINGLE LANE. UM, SO, UH, AND TALKING TO OUR, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THOSE CHANGES. UM, AND UH, IT WON'T HAPPEN TONIGHT, BUT I DID ALSO ASK OUR CONTRACTOR TO PLACE AN ORDER FOR, UM, DELINEATORS TO, UH, PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROTECTION, UH, OR SEPARATION OF ANYWHERE WHERE WE HAVE THE BIKE LANES BUFFERED THERE ON LAKEVILLE. UM, WE'LL HAVE DELINEATORS IN, AND THEN, UM, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO LEAVE LIKE DRIVEWAYS OPEN, BUT, UM, WE WILL GET THEM IN, UH, ON, ON THE OTHER SECTIONS. SO THAT'S MY, I THINK THAT'S MY UPDATE. LAST SLIDE IS JUST UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS, UM, AND THAT I JUST ADDED PARKLETS TO THE TOP OF THE LIST. UM, AND, UH, YEAH, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING ELSE HERE HAS CHANGED. I WAS ABLE TO TAKE, TOOK HOWARD STREET OFF, BUT, UH, OTHERWISE, UH, THESE, THESE SHOULD ALL BE FAMILIAR. THANK YOU, BRIAN. I THINK WITH THAT I CAN ADJOURN MEETING AT 9 25. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.